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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 560

XxSoulxX | Posted 9/3/2008 8:02:30 PM | message detail
wait a tick...

TERRY BOGARD!
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Xuxon | Posted 9/3/2008 8:04:54 PM | message detail
i wouldnt be surprised if we were arguing over batman and superman by next week

nobody would be dumb enough to argue superman over batman, so i would be

Zack to the quarters where he respectfully bows out to Mario so he can LFF Link to second behind the true blond haired Cloud
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Lopen | Posted 9/3/2008 8:05:18 PM | message detail
Sure. I'm just saying that some people called Mario > Samus and Mario > Crono right and they don't feel the need to shove it in the face of the stats topic everytime it comes up.

Honestly, the premise of "it's freaking Mario" assumes that everything is normal with the site vs the public. With Crono winning over Mario the year before, you can kinda throw that out the window. There was plenty of reason to think that Samus > Mario could happen.

And okay, honestly I think your way of thinking of things makes sense. I almost took Crono to win too... whereas Mario over Samus didn't take much internal debate. I was just making a point. The site is not normal so something that is obvious like Mario beating Samus in the real world shouldn't be taken as obvious here, especially considering their matches with Link and all that.

Anyway, yeah, we should stop talking about this I agree.
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ChronicYouth | Posted 9/3/2008 8:05:35 PM | message detail
you mean blonde haired zack
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XxSoulxX | Posted 9/3/2008 8:07:38 PM | message detail
I correctly called Sonic > Crono. Can I rub that in people's faces too?
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/4/2008 12:49:45 AM | message detail
^Only if you had Snake (and NOT Megaman) winning over him in the next round.

Since you know, every Sonicfan had Sonic winning that match.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/4/2008 1:27:52 AM | message detail
Looking back on it, I'm a moron for picking Vincent to upset Crono, but not Sonic.

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Seginustemple | Posted 9/4/2008 1:34:06 AM | message detail
Meh, I had Samus>Mario. At the time she seemed statistically stronger, it wasn't apparent that she was the ultimate Nintendo SFF shaftee, and I have a raging boner for Metroid games.
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Seginustemple | Posted 9/4/2008 1:34:52 AM | message detail
The last reason influenced my decision 90%, though.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/4/2008 1:46:26 AM | message detail
Wouldn't someone like DK or Pac-Man be the ultimate Nintendo SFF'd character?

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Seginustemple | Posted 9/4/2008 1:49:13 AM | message detail
Well, I guess I mean proportionate to her regular strength. DK and Pac-man are just kinda weak either way.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2008 4:53:32 AM | message detail
kinda reminds me of Crono vs. Magus in some weird way. Fox is pretty obviously the more popular of the two.

Strangely enough, the same thought occurred to me.

...What, we've already started talking about something else?

Also, I never said anything derogatory about you, Ulti. I just get sick of you acting like people who picked Samus > Mario were stupid when the Mario pickers (aside from Lopen) were the ones who used no logic. Common sense is not that common when it comes to GameFAQs, so stop using that excuse. According to common sense, Sephiroth should never get 60% on Mario, but he did. Samus should never beat Sonic according to common sense either.

I had Sonic > Crono, too! Had him winning the Male Bracket, too! Oh well!
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Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2008 5:18:10 AM | message detail
CONTEST QUARTERFINALS

MATCH 3


Solid Snake
Mega Man
Cloud Strife
Yoshi

Yoshi’s gonna be feelin’ the hurt here, and so is Mega Man. Actually, looking at it, this match should pretty much go the way that Cloud/Samus/Mega Man/Ryu went last year. Snake is at about the same level as Samus, and Ryu is about the same level as Yoshi, give or take a little. This is another one of those matches where there’s really no debate as to who finishes where because each character is on a different level. I suppose the interesting thing will be to see how well Snake does on Cloud. It’ll be a good chance to gauge just how much he’s boosted.

Leonhart’s Pick: Cloud Strife > Solid Snake
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satai_delenn | Posted 9/4/2008 5:20:56 AM | message detail
I'm sure it's been discussed already and I've just missed it, but how much of a boost are we expecting from Snake? My bracket currently has Snake > Cloud in the semifinals due to Sephiroth's presence, but then Link > Cloud in the final. I was halfway tempted to be crazy and pick Link > Snake, but I decided not to be that crazy...still, I wonder how well Snake will do.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/4/2008 5:21:56 AM | message detail
damn it people don't take Snake > Cloud it doesn't have a chance in hell of happening and more importantly it's MY upset
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2008 5:24:32 AM | message detail
CONTEST QUARTERFINALS

MATCH 4


Master Chief
Dante
Sephiroth
Sonic the Hedgehog

I think this will actually be one of the more interesting matches of the contest (unless that stupid Sandbag is here, then forget it). This is where we’ll really be able to see what Master Chief can do. Last year we didn’t really get a chance to see what he could do against Snake because L-Block was there. This year, there will be nothing in the way of him and Sephiroth. How well will he do? Not well enough to win, I’ll say that. However, I’m actually hopping aboard the Lopen train and taking him to beat Sonic. The Chief got closer to Snake than Sonic did last year (though you have to take that with a grain of salt because of the Block being there, but it was in both of those matches, so maybe not), and Sonic Team doesn’t do so hot with this format. He’s going to have to hope that Brawl boosted him majorly to avoid the upset here. This may be the first time I’ve ever undershot the Blue Blur! Also, Dante gets last place again, but at least he’s gotten this far for two years in a row.

Leonhart’s Pick: Sephiroth > Master Chief
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transience | Posted 9/4/2008 5:25:56 AM | message detail
dammit I can't have Leonhart's Sonic path
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2008 5:26:06 AM | message detail
I'm sure it's been discussed already and I've just missed it, but how much of a boost are we expecting from Snake? My bracket currently has Snake > Cloud in the semifinals due to Sephiroth's presence

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2564

This should give you an idea of how big of a boost Snake needs to beat Cloud with Sephiroth there.
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Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2008 5:26:51 AM | message detail
But I'm undershooting, not overshooting! This is a completely new phenomenon!
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transience | Posted 9/4/2008 5:27:48 AM | message detail
that doesn't mean you'll not be a round off!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2008 5:29:13 AM | message detail
The only way that happens is if Sandbag turns out to be something!

...Oh crap.
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ZFS | Posted 9/4/2008 5:30:06 AM | message detail
Gonna need more than that poll indicates - there's a Link in the way!

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Kept you waiting, huh?
transience | Posted 9/4/2008 5:31:16 AM | message detail
why does removing Link give Solid Snake an advantage?
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transience | Posted 9/4/2008 5:31:55 AM | message detail
well, I guess there's no Brawl character if MC does advance. possible, I suppose.
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ZFS | Posted 9/4/2008 5:32:17 AM | message detail
It doesn't! Was talking about Cloud there.

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Kept you waiting, huh?
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2008 5:34:39 AM | message detail
I'm thinking he's saying the margin widens more for Cloud without Link there, not the other way around.

CONTEST SEMIFINALS

MATCH 1


Link
Mario
Samus Aran
Vincent Valentine

Leonhart’s Pick: Link > Samus Aran (Take that, Ulti! Samus beats Mario this time!)

Just kidding!

Okay, this one is where it really gets interesting (if Vincent’s here, that is. I really hope the L-Block loses because this match becomes really boring otherwise). Link obviously smashes everything in his path, but in his path are two high tier Nintendo characters and potential Noble Nine breaker Vincent. To be honest with you though, I think Mario and Samus hurt each other more than Link hurts them. They both struggled mightily during the Battle Royale (although Mario still did badly even after Samus was eliminated). However, both did fairly well in last year’s contest even when paired up with Link. Still, all three of them together should do some major damage. I’m going with the upset here and putting Vincent into the finals!

Leonhart’s REAL Pick: Link > Vincent Valentine
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/4/2008 5:35:47 AM | message detail
Finally I have a stupid MGS pick that HM didn't take swinging for the fences did some good
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2008 5:39:07 AM | message detail
CONTEST SEMIFINALS

MATCH 2


Cloud Strife
Solid Snake
Sephiroth
Master Chief

Well, we were just talking about whether or not Snake can beat Cloud here with Sephiroth interfering. In a word: No. Even though Snake should have a sizable boost this year, he’s not in Cloud’s league quite yet (nor will he ever be, most likely). Cloud Strife will still win this one. Solid Snake needed some last second heroics (or shenanigans, depending on your point of view) to beat Sephiroth in the Battle Royale a couple of years ago. Now that he’ll be even stronger, Snake shouldn’t need to worry about waiting ‘til the last update to win. I think Sephy will still have enough in the tank to beat the Chief out for third place, but we’ll see!

Leonhart’s Pick: Cloud Strife > Solid Snake
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/4/2008 5:41:14 AM | message detail
If Snake could barely beat Sephiroth with Cloud in the poll, how does he expect to have a snowball's chance in hell of beating Cloud alone?
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2008 5:42:40 AM | message detail
CONTEST FINALS

Link
Vincent Valentine
Cloud Strife
Solid Snake

Three of last year’s finalists return for this year’s finals (and possibly all four could be here, depending on what L-Block does, of course). Unfortunately, Cloud has no chance of beating Link because Vincent will be leeching off of him, unless all of the FFVII fans decide to rally around the hero in a valiant effort to defeat him. Vincent with 0 votes would be quite the sight to see! Seriously though, I could see a big underperformance on Vinny’s part due to something like that. He’s probably going to get less than 10% like he did last year anyway. And while Vincent returns to the coffin and Link and Cloud duke it out, Solid Snake sneaks up behind them and CQC slams everyone for the win!

Leonhart’s Pick: Solid Snake with 110%

Not really!

Leonhart’s REAL Pick: Link > Cloud Strife
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satai_delenn | Posted 9/4/2008 5:43:43 AM | message detail
Ah...that's a wide gap. Well...I guess we'll see. I'd imagined Sephiroth splitting more evenly with Cloud, I'm not sure why. I'm especially not sure why since in several other places in my bracket I erred on the side of one SFF character reaping most of the benefit. It all depends, though, I guess.
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MnMZero | Posted 9/4/2008 7:21:32 AM | message detail
damn it people don't take Snake > Cloud it doesn't have a chance in hell of happening and more importantly it's MY upset

Yeah, I thought about Snake > Cloud (you can see in my opening thoughts on the bracket when it was released), but figured I wouldn't really talk much about it since there are bigger Snake fans. Just like any upset possibility by Bowser and Zero are mine and mine alone (got that turtle).
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/4/2008 11:54:57 AM | message detail
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Sandbag pulled a 2007 L-Block. Or more realistically, I won't be surprised if he beats Magus.

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MnMZero | Posted 9/4/2008 12:00:21 PM | message detail
Sandbag might be able to get past Magus, but I don't see it pulling an L-Block seeing that his support would basically be geared towards the SSB fanbase, and they already have like 30 other characters to support. I don't think Sandbag will ever get the full support of the SSB fanbase, plus he isn't as universal as L-Block is.
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transience | Posted 9/4/2008 12:08:15 PM | message detail
"not as universal"? SSB's a much more liked game and while it probably doesn't hit Tetris levels, it's certainly up there. it's not like, when you talk about L-Block, you're talking about the Tetris fanbase, so I don't get the "SSB fans have 30 other characters to support" thing. Sandbag has more appeal than the Block (I mean, look at it) and it's from a game that everyone likes as opposed to one that everyone has played.

Sandbag's problem is that it runs into a mean round 2 match, meaner than the Block's.
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transience | Posted 9/4/2008 12:08:35 PM | message detail
Tetris levels of playability, that is.
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transience | Posted 9/4/2008 12:10:46 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/contribute/submit_contest_image.php

well this changes everything
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/4/2008 12:11:11 PM | message detail
User created contest pics from the start of the contest? AWESOME!

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/4/2008 12:12:24 PM | message detail
augh so tempted to have Kefka winning now
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transience | Posted 9/4/2008 12:13:43 PM | message detail
time to submit the lettuce
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Big Bob | Posted 9/4/2008 12:16:46 PM | message detail
I don't see Sandbag doing much either, due to the whole "Tetris is universal" thing. You don't even have to like Tetris to want to vote for L-Block in a match; it's just an odd little block against other, actual characters. Sandbag may be instantly recognizable against hardcore Smash fans, but I doubt everybody who's played Smash knows who he is.

However, he certainly has appeal in that he exists entirely to be beaten up.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/4/2008 12:26:59 PM | message detail
Looks like I'll have to make Lettuce Kefka v Duke Milkem!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/4/2008 1:14:27 PM | message detail
Guys, you realize what this means.

Round 1: Full body

Lettuce Kefka confirmed!

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MnMZero | Posted 9/4/2008 1:21:08 PM | message detail
"not as universal"? SSB's a much more liked game"

Yeah, but Tetris:L-Block is not the same as SSB:Sandbag. Sandbag is just one of many things SSB related. Sure, the SSB fanbase has the potential to push L-Block through, but I don't think it will draw the same focus as L-Block did.
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MnMZero | Posted 9/4/2008 1:25:28 PM | message detail
Guys, you realize what this means.

Round 1: Full body

Lettuce Kefka confirmed!


Kefka was just shown in the latest Dissidia trailer. I forget whether or not there was a moment when it showed his entire body, but he certainly was very visible. Someone could always rip a pic from that.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/4/2008 1:27:39 PM | message detail
Kefka's Dissidia pic won't help. it'd be just as unrecognizable - maybe more - as Clown Kefka, which is only moderately better than the lettuce.
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ChronicYouth | Posted 9/4/2008 1:28:09 PM | message detail
If you think the Tetris fanbase is what pushed L-Block through, you're wrong. It's not like Tetris was some kind of powerhouse in the games contest or anything. A lot more people were voting for L than diehard Tetris fans.

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voltch | Posted 9/4/2008 1:28:54 PM | message detail
user pics?

ZackH4X confirmed!
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MnMZero | Posted 9/4/2008 1:30:55 PM | message detail
Didn't say it would do him any good, just saying that there might be a full-body option other than Lettuce. Really, I think people should give up about Kefka getting a picture being recognizable. His strength is his fans that know him by names. And really in this format, that's all that really matters for him.
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MnMZero | Posted 9/4/2008 1:32:23 PM | message detail
If you think the Tetris fanbase is what pushed L-Block through, you're wrong.

Who said that?
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