GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 559
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2008 7:35:10 AM | message detail |
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I for one an stunned at these poll results. I spoke of that template
many times with yoblazer on AIM, and we both thought the SNES era would
rip this poll apart. This site really has shifted towards the recent,
casual stuff. ~*ST*~ --- MY BROTHERS WILL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN! Now Playing: Crisis Core, Final Fantasy 4 DS |
| H__RR____H | Posted 8/29/2008 7:35:33 AM | message detail |
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still, the PS2 gen is rocking the so-called glory years of the SNES
that this topic likes to scream from the top of the hills about. For what it's worth, I would consider the Gamecube/Xbox a lot more popular than the Genesis/TurboGrafx here. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| H__RR____H | Posted 8/29/2008 7:37:39 AM | message detail |
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I thought the N64/PSX era was gonna put the rest of the options on leashes... ...oh, I was so young and naive then. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| voltch | Posted 8/29/2008 7:43:18 AM | message detail |
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i thought PS2 era would win since Melee is on GC,Halo and huh FFX as well,with GoW and other stuff like RE4. But SNES is really disappointing,is that the kind of votals magus can expect....urgh and to think we thought he could be a noble nine breaker. --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| H__RR____H | Posted 8/29/2008 7:55:40 AM | message detail |
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For kicks, let's look at the poll from one company's view at a time. Sony: PS3 > PS2 > PS1 Microsoft: 360 > Xbox Sega: Genesis > Dreamcast > Master System Nintendo: Wii > GC > SNES > N64 > NES The rest (who cares, I know): TurboGrafx > Atarti/Intellivision/Colecovision My thoughts: --> There's no way the PS3 is the most favored Sony system, though it's certain for 360 to be Microsoft's. I doubt it's fair to say the Wii is Nintendo's top system, but it may not be far from it. --> The Genesis is most likely Sega's top system, but the Dreamcast should keep close. --> The GC was probably the worst-received system Nintendo's released to date, and the Xbox was far less popular here than the GC (as well as the 360 again)...so the PS2 is definitely carrying that era on its back... --> ...again though, the SNES is doing the same for its era, and GC > Genesis while Xbox > TurboGrafx. ...this is just a weird poll to see go down like this. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| MnMZero | Posted 8/29/2008 8:00:37 AM | message detail |
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I said this in another topic, but today's games simply have more
content. This poll isn't necessarily asking which generation do you
like better. It's asking if you were stuck on an island by yourself
forever, which gen would you choose? I think I'd get tired pretty fast
of beating LttP and TMNTIV over and over vs hundreds of hours of Guitar
Hero, GTA, and XBLA games. Of course, other voters may be voting based on faves, but that was my thinking upon seeing the poll. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/29/2008 8:42:55 AM | message detail |
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Nostalgia is thus unimportant, and backwards compatibility is. "If you were stuck on a desert island but could bring an entire generation of games and consoles with you, which would you choose?" Backwards compatibility is irrelevant to this poll question. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/29/2008 9:59:15 AM | message detail |
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How much do you think a Virtual Console release of Earthbound would do for Ness? --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/29/2008 10:21:17 AM | message detail |
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| consolefreak | Posted 8/29/2008 10:22:17 AM | message detail |
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"If you were stuck on a desert island but could bring an entire
generation of games and consoles with you, which would you choose?" Backwards compatibility is irrelevant to this poll question. Is it? Perhaps they thought to bring a PS3 with PS1 era games, for example (the PS3 so they have access to online stuff as well) |
| voltch | Posted 8/29/2008 10:27:33 AM | message detail |
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so huh what does one need for FFXI,since there's no PC to make one lose
his time on blizzard game i'll settle for Pandemonium Warden. --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| Tohoya | Posted 8/29/2008 10:59:12 AM | message detail |
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Backwards compatibility is irrelevant to this poll question. Whether or not it is as written, the fact that we're arguing about it proves that some people will read it that way and respond accordingly. --- "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." --Ezekiel 23:20 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 8/29/2008 11:13:03 AM | message detail |
| Another thing to consider: People who started
gaming with the NES have 5 generations from which to choose- it's
unlikely that any single generation can take more than 50% of the votes
from this group. People who started gaming with the SNES have 4
generations from which to choose- again, even if SNES/Genesis is the
easy winner among this group, it's unlikely to break 50%. People who
started gaming, say, last generation really only have 2 choices. If the
poll worked like the Battle Royale, the final two would be the current
generation and the SNES/Genesis generation, and 16-bit would look far
far better in that final 2-way poll than it looks now. --- "Fate has no forgiveness for those who dare stand against it." ~Chrono Cross Game Over Screen |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/29/2008 2:48:05 PM | message detail |
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I wasn't factoring in backwards compatibility when I wrote that; just games and systems. ~*ST*~ --- MY BROTHERS WILL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN! Now Playing: Crisis Core, Final Fantasy 4 DS |
| Lopen | Posted 8/29/2008 3:54:51 PM | message detail |
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I wasn't factoring in backwards compatibility when I wrote that; just games and systems. Well, despite what this topic and even I said earlier, I at least did interpret it that way when I voted at a glance and voted for Gamecube/PS2/X-Box. It was only after I retrospectively analyzed it that I said "wow I should've just picked PS3/360/Wii since they're backwards compatible." Some might be voting PS3/360/Wii because of backwards compatible... but I think you wrote the question as well as you could have to remove the backwards combatibility effect... well aside from a parenthesized disclaimer of some sort. And as for Turtle, saying Pac-Man is recognizability SFFed rather than Old School SFFed? Well, right now it's your opinion against mine since Pac has only collapsed against Old School characters so far. If you think it's merely recognizability that causes him to lose votes... by all means, take Ness there. I think he'll handle Ness with some ease, though. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Nominate Raiden!: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44772404 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/29/2008 4:32:34 PM | message detail |
| People on the internet will always find a technicality to break a hypothetical situation. Look at any of the topics on LL where you have to choose between superpowers or something. |
| ChronicYouth | Posted 8/29/2008 4:39:03 PM | message detail |
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I for one an stunned at these poll results. I spoke of that template
many times with yoblazer on AIM, and we both thought the SNES era would
rip this poll apart. This site really has shifted towards the recent,
casual stuff. Or they're not stupid. Is this gen my favorite console wise? Hell no. Did I vote for it the poll? Yup. Why? Because it has the advantage of online play. Not a single one of my top 10 games comes from this gen, yet I can get far more play and enjoyment out of a couple of games with online capabilities, then I can playing consoles with libraries of 30 games I really enjoyed. I've probably played Shadowrun (360), for more time combined than I could withstand playing those same 30 games from a console I really like, because every time I play it, it's going to be different and offer something new. Enough can't be said about the unpredictability of online games, providing countless hours of replay value. --- can you dig it? |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/29/2008 5:17:53 PM | message detail |
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Even if you're not including standard backwards compatibility, the
Wii's VC still adds a huge amount of the great games from previous
generations, and XBLA/PSN have a few too. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. Brawl FC: 4253-3155-6697 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/29/2008 6:12:22 PM | message detail |
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Actually, I just figured out why this gen is winning: Zack Fair stars in his own game in this generation. Watch out, Link. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/29/2008 6:16:50 PM | message detail |
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Leon's got it figured out. God help us all when Zack gets his hands on Link. --- Where there are RKOs, there will always be ExThaNemesis. Arsenal FC 1-0-1 Pts: 3 Pos: long way back |
| paraboxx | Posted 8/29/2008 6:45:41 PM | message detail |
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Wow, I'm amazed today's poll got so much discussion. And here I thought I'd be too late to comment on it. Too bad the only comment I have is to echo everyone saying it's just a case of "what have you done for me lately". Ah well. (I'd have never picked SNES era over PS era, though; didn't the PS era win out in the Games Contest?) Actually, I just figured out why this gen is winning: Zack Fair stars in his own game in this generation. ...okay, strike my last paragraph. This is clearly what's happening here. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/29/2008 7:56:29 PM | message detail |
| FF7 won the games contest, but I think the real winner was the SNES era with Chrono Trigger, LttP and FF6 all being uber strong. |
| ZFS | Posted 8/29/2008 7:58:04 PM | message detail |
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what --- Kept you waiting, huh? |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 8/29/2008 8:00:55 PM | message detail |
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I think you guys are looking into this poll far too much. It's
interesting, sure, but don't take anything from it, least of which when
it concerns the contest. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/29/2008 8:44:34 PM | message detail |
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I'm taking Pac-Man. Yes, Pac gets SFFed by the Nintendo... but
somehow I just don't think Mewtwo and Ness are going to get it done. I
always chalk up Pac's SFF "Old School SFF" rather than being
necessarily Nintendo related. Mewtwo and Ness are not exactly new
characters, but I wouldn't exactly call them Old School either. Ness
probably gets SFFed worse, methinks Yoshi got 73% on Pac-Man, while Bowser got 75% on Ness... looking at it that way, it seems very close. And... well, I'm just banking on Mewtwo SFFing Ness, for more than just evading SFF from Bowser. If Fox McCloud can do it to Wario and (I think) Meta Knight, I think Mewtwo could do the same to Ness. I think Fox/Mewtwo would be a dang good match. Pac-Man does have the apparent advantage of having less overlap. Ness would seem to have an advantage of a more dilligent fanbase... but I'm skeptical of that meaning much, as he couldn't beat Alucard/Liquid despite being against three PS characters. Also, don't forget that Pac-Man beat Ocelot once upon a time, so I don't think Ness would beat Pac by more than a narrow margin in a regular match. For all I know, Ness could destroy Pac-Man, but I've got the icon in my bracket, and I'm sticking with it... Let's talk about some FUTURE rounds, shall we? Cloud/Sephiroth/Solid Snake/Master Chief (or Sonic)! Sephiroth most likely gets last, but what else might happen? Who will get first between Cloud and Snake? And for second, I could see MC having a shot (assuming he's at the same level as last year). You know we'd all be rolling of the floor laughing at FF7 if the winners were Snake and MC. =P However, I'm guessing if MC somehow managed to snag second place, it would be due to Cloud SFFing Snake (heck, you could use past matches to argue for that, though it might be him being crushed by Cloud + Link combined). I need to do some calculations... Oh, and I don't see how L-Block could lose in the first round. I just can't see it. I think leeching among joke voters is being overestimated, not to mention The Dog will probably be lucky to grab 15% of the vote. I think L-Block would've beaten Meta Knight (even post-SSBB) in the same situation as round 1 of last year. Here's hoping Bacon gives L-Block a terrible picture! Maybe L-Block could lose R1, after all. Also, here's hoping enough voters are ignorant of L-Block's success. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/29/2008 10:30:34 PM | message detail |
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Cloud > Snake That's an easy one |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2008 10:37:13 PM | message detail |
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If Square insists on continuing to make FF7 spinoffs, I insist they put Tecmo's NG team in charge of the next one. Best part: most fans won't be able to beat the game! ^_^ --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/29/2008 11:15:21 PM | message detail |
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Yoshi got 73% on Pac-Man, while Bowser got 75% on Ness... looking at it that way, it seems very close. Interesting view, but not only is there SFF but there are different kinds of SFF. The Yoshi seen there is not the same Yoshi we know today, either -- he's not on Bowser's level during those times. I'd much rather use Pac/Scorpion and Scorpion-Ness comparisons on Auron anyway since there's much less room for error (though when dealing with 2k2 and 2k4, it should still be taken cautiously). And... well, I'm just banking on Mewtwo SFFing Ness, for more than just evading SFF from Bowser. Well, let's see...Mewtwo could SFF Ness for the RPG vote since Pokemon > Mother and R/B/Y > EB, though the RPGs are on separate systems and are from different eras (in fact, one's console and one's handheld) so SFF'ing may be tough on that one. Ness's EB-fans are known to be rather diligent, too, so that may prove to be difficult yet probable to some degree. If Mewtwo wants to SFF Ness on the SSB-front though, best of luck. Ness was a fan-favorite in SSB, started in SSBM, and returned in SSBB...whereas Mewtwo was snubbed in SSB, terrible in SSBM, and cut in SSBB. That will be a much more difficult way to SFF Ness for Mewtwo. There will be people who prefer Mewtwo in one form over any form of Ness and vice versa, but Mewtwo ultimately shouldn't SFF Ness much. He stood up to Bowser in a format that favors Pokemon and wasn't favorable to Bowser...not to mention Toad being in the poll. Mewtwo's performance last year was really nice, but let's not assume he's actually THAT close to Bowser nor should we assume Mewtwo will have the same SFF-punch that Bowser did. Mewtwo's lower on the totem pole and has less overlap with Ness than Bowser did (at least Bowser had SMRPG -- probably Nintendo's biggest RPG, while we're at it -- on the SNES). Mewtwo should hurt Ness, yes, but I doubt all that much while Ness is hot with SSBB. --- NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/29/2008 11:18:56 PM | message detail |
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If Fox McCloud can do it to Wario and (I think) Meta Knight, I think
Mewtwo could do the same to Ness. I think Fox/Mewtwo would be a dang
good match. Fox was big in SSB/M and was announced for SSBB while Wario and MK were running off solely SSBB-hype, and you could argue SF64 is the biggest game to come out of the SF/WW/Kirby series...or that Star Fox is the biggest series of those three. We've also seen that Fox has solid strength too...so, yeah, that sounds right. I really doubt Mewtwo would have done the same to Wario and MK, and I would feel confident in Fox SFF'ing Ness pretty bad whereas I lack that same confidence in Mewtwo. That's not to say Fox would have done much better against Bowser/Toad or that Fox clearly beats Mewtwo -- SFF in these various ways feels like it depends on the situation a LOT -- but I think Fox has the advantage in all of those situations last year. Brawl can't hurt either. Pac-Man does have the apparent advantage of having less overlap. Ness would seem to have an advantage of a more dilligent fanbase... but I'm skeptical of that meaning much, as he couldn't beat Alucard/Liquid despite being against three PS characters. Understandable, but we'll get to test the diligence much more this time now that there is another Nintendo character in this four-way format. Ness's EB-diligence probably didn't matter as much as I thought last year because there wasn't many threats to that part of his fanbase. It should matter more this time, and this may be the best chance since Mario/Ness to see how dedicated they really are. Given the Top 100 List and the recent SNES-VC-poll, I'll try my luck on those EB-fans one more time. Also, don't forget that Pac-Man beat Ocelot once upon a time, so I don't think Ness would beat Pac by more than a narrow margin in a regular match. Ocelot pre-MGS4 was much more niche than Ness is, Ocelot's never been playable to my knowledge, and he was terribly out-pic'd against Pac. Put Pac-Man against Ness head-to-head; Ness will be more recognized by voters than Revolver and will almost certainly have less of a pic-disadvantage. The Nintendo-SFF idea doesn't hurt either if it applies, and I'd take Ness over Kefka...lettuce or no lettuce. One-on-one, I wouldn't fear picking Ness > Pac. This format scares me more, but I'm not confident in Mewtwo hurting Ness much and I'm not sold on Pac-Man not being affected by two rather-recognizable (by GameFAQs's demographic) Nintendo characters in the same poll who are already stronger than him. --- NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118 |
| LegendaryRaiden | Posted 8/30/2008 12:26:57 AM | message detail |
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Cloud/Sephiroth/Solid Snake/Master Chief (or Sonic)! Sephiroth most likely gets last, but what else might happen? Me, I'm thinking, yes, Master Chief > Cloud will be the likely result of that match. We've seen how MGS and FF7 interact... we've seen how weak (relative terms) Cloud gets with Sephiroth there. And honestly, if you don't believe in MGS/FF7 SFF, Snake and MC advancing is almost viable, too, which would be amazing. And back to Ness/Pac-Man a bit... HaRRicH does bring up a point about the Mewtwo/Ness interaction, though... Mewtwo is no Bowser or Mario on the totem pole and thinking about this a bit more I don't think Mewtwo SFFs Ness much either. Mewtwo is garbage (I still love using him) in Melee and Ness is in all three of the Smash games. If anyone gets the butt end of SFF, it should be Mewtwo. That being said, I'd take Pac-Man over Ness 1v1 (in a really close one that could go either way) so Ness doesn't need substantial (if any) SFF weakening from Mewtwo to go down.. --- Did you say nerd? - Raiden Yes, I did. Your hearing is flawless. You heard correctly. Get to the nerd. - Campbell |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/30/2008 6:52:27 AM | message detail |
| Snake could barely beat Sephiroth with Cloud in the poll, no way Master Chief beats either. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/30/2008 7:33:49 AM | message detail |
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MC would require a more static hardcore fanbase than anybody else we've
seen for MC to pull through against three people in the top half of the
Noble Nine, even if two will hurt each other (maybe three if FF/MGS-SFF
applies). Considering he didn't beat Solid for second place last year
when he was fresh off of Halo 3 and only had Solid and L-Block to
contend with, I'm not banking on him landing second place against
Cloud/Seph/Solid when SSBB, MGS4, and even CC:FF7 have come out
recently. He should get third place there. I do have Seph > MC the round before though (over Sonic and Kirby)....but even then, that's going to rely on Kirby being there to keep Sonic's new SSBB-fans in check. Also, just to touch on something said afew posts ago, I don't think Ness will (r)SFF Mewtwo. The Pokemon series has a fanbase that is very hard to touch in this format. If Luigi can't distance himself from Pikachu by more than ~5%, Ness isn't going to make any note-worthy strides against Mewtwo. I think whatever we see between them should be reasonably accurate...for, you know, this format. --- NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/30/2008 9:40:46 AM | message detail |
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arg thoughts on Luigi/Bowser/LSnake? just think about what could possibly happen here: look at the Mewtwo/Ryu/Toad match, and then the following match after that: Bowser gained so much ground on Ryu. think of how much he'd lose with Luigi. it's VERY possible Liquid could sneak in. yes, Yuna couldnt phase Luigi and Ganondorf much, but evidence shows Bowser will lose a hell lot more than Ganondorf because Zelda fans are more adherent. and how do we even know who will win between Luigi and Bowser? i have like, no way of knowing unless we want to compare Ryu/Ganondorf which is hard. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/30/2008 9:50:11 AM | message detail |
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I've strongly considered it, *especially* considering Liquid's name is
plastered all over MGS4 (really, that's all you need for at least a
slight boost), but most are just pointing to how Liquid went out last
year and in the Villains Contest and just assuming he crumbles against
strong competition. I'm sorely tempted to pull the trigger on that
upset just because of the weakness of that argument, but I'm also a tad
hung up on Roxas functioning as a Sora-proxy of sorts when he's all on
his lonesome. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/30/2008 9:53:38 AM | message detail |
| Liquid is weaksauce. If Mudkip couldn't do it with Luigi/Ganondorf, Liquid won't do it with Bowser/Luigi |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/30/2008 9:57:29 AM | message detail |
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i've already been over how Bowser does worse against his own fanbase than Ganondorf does with the Mario fanbase. i guess there's no way to see how much better Ganondorf does in his matches without Luigi outside his first match (which is all fodder). but really: i dont think that's important: what's important is how much ground Bowser lost to Toad and a Pokemon with a shameful SSBM appearance. just THINK how much he'd lose to a main character in his own series. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/30/2008 10:11:07 AM | message detail |
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oh and not to mention if Liquid does go out; he'll be all alone at
least. i mean two Nintendo characters and a DS game sure seems
different from a PS1 character, a PS2 character, and an Xbox character. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2008 10:13:49 AM | message detail |
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I'm hesitant to pick Liquid against someone with strength. He's folded
pretty much every time. I'm also considering Roxas sneaking past
Liquid, but that'd probably be a bias pick more than anything else. I
really doubt Liquid is that far out of his range though. Also, if MC couldn't get past Snake last year, he sure ain't beatin' Cloud and Snake. Cloud is untouchable for the Chief in ANY format, unless it's a tag team where he's paired with Link. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/30/2008 10:25:45 AM | message detail |
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Mudkip (2007c) VS Liquid Snake (2007c) Mudkip has a strength of 21.53. Liquid Snake has a strength of 21.08. Mudkip wins with 51.05% of the vote! A win of 3,005 with 143,789 total votes cast. ...the strengths aren't that different (even if you take Liquid's raw value) going by the stats, and Luigi/Ganondorf is a whole different ballgame from Luigi/Bowser. I don't buy the 2k7 stats much at all mind you, but just going on gut instinct I can't count Liquid out. Not to mention that the two matches that Liquid takes flak for are his losses to Sephiroth and Master Chief (get Yuna and Alucard outta here). Whether or not you think there's overlap there, what is certain is that Liquid will stick out like a sore thumb in that match, and will look as good as he ever has against "strong" competition. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| ChronicYouth | Posted 8/30/2008 10:28:48 AM | message detail |
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As much as I want to take MC to dominate this contest, and upset Cloud,
I sincerely doubt it's going to happen. Even if he was on par with the
MC of last year, I don't know if I could make that pick, and I really
don't think he is. I'm not even a huge fan of Halo by any means, and I
was onboard the crazy hype train of H3 and Master Chief. That ad
campaign was ****ing epic.
Now that the game has actually come out, everyone has realized that
Halo 3 sucks giant monkey nuts, and while it should still make MC
stronger than he was two years ago, I don't think he can quite match
the awesomeness of last year. He should still have one of the most
fervent, dedicated fanbases out of any of the characters in the
contest, which will once again help him out due to the format, but I'd
be surprised to see him as impressive as last year. --- can you dig it? |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2008 11:07:35 AM | message detail |
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and Luigi/Ganondorf is a whole different ballgame from Luigi/Bowser. "I'm a whole different game from Liquid!" Couldn't resist! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2008 11:47:59 AM | message detail |
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More projections! Round 2 DIVISION 1 Zack Fair Wario Link Shadow the Hedgehog These are based on my predictions for round 2, of course. First of all, Wario is going to get destroyed. He couldn’t even manage 10% in a match with Sephy, Fox, and Meta Knight. I doubt he’ll get it here. Link should roll to 50-60% here, which leaves around 30-40% between Zack and Wario. Shadow didn’t exactly inspire confidence in last year’s contest, and for good reason. Sonic Team in general hasn’t looked good in this format. Of course, the question is what Zack will do. There are still lots of question marks about the guy, and I don’t quite have the confidence in him to beat Shadow…yet. Leonhart’s Pick: Link > Shadow the Hedgehog Niko Bellic Marth Lucario Altair This match is another mess. The only thing I’m sure of is that Altair basically has no chance. Niko’s got a great chance at first (or whoever’s in his place, I guess) because of Marth and Lucario LFFing each other, potentially. However, Pokemon showed last year that it was a force to be reckoned with. I feel good with Lucario ousting Marth here, but we’ll see. I’m also liking him to somehow still maintain first place over Niko, despite perhaps how nonsensical that seems. Leonhart’s Pick: Lucario > Niko Bellic --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/30/2008 12:08:02 PM | message detail |
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I have to go with Marth > Niko there. I doubt Lucario is going to be worth much. Then again, I would not be surprised by any result from this fourpack. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2008 12:19:34 PM | message detail |
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DIVISION 2 Luigi Liquid Snake Bowser Phoenix Wright This is an intriguing match. Unfortunately, Phoenix Wright won’t be doing much of anything but getting dead last. That match with Mario last year also has me concerned that he’s Nintendo SFF-able, which would concern me if his competition weren’t Geno, who shares a game with Bowser. Can Liquid take advantage of Bowser/Luigi LFF to sneak through and oust one of these guys? I say no. I don’t have any confidence in him to do well against tough competition. He’s folded every time. And I’ll be honest here: I think Luigi’s got a shot at beating Bowser. He nearly beat Ganondorf in this same situation last year, whom I’ve come to believe is probably more popular than Bowser by this point. Bowser didn’t handle the LFF nor the format last year very well, and Luigi beat him in the Favorite Mario Character poll, which applies to this format. Leonhart’s Pick: Luigi > Bowser Mario Knuckles the Echidna Mega Man X Mudkip This one is probably one of the more common sense fourpacks, at least on the surface. Mario will win easily and probably take down Mudkip while he’s at it (though don’t underestimate the power of 4chan). The question is whether or not he will take down Mega Man X while he’s at it. That Link match immediately jumps to mind, though I don’t know how applicable it is to this. Knuckles has the benefit of being entirely unaffected in this match, but will it be enough? It’s also entirely possible that X could be weaker than Knux naturally, though I’m doubting it, especially considering the format. Leonhart’s Pick: Mario > Mega Man X --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2008 12:20:26 PM | message detail |
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That match with Mario last year also has me concerned that he’s
Nintendo SFF-able, which would concern me if his competition weren’t
Geno That should say "which would concern me in the first round." --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2008 1:03:13 PM | message detail |
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DIVISION 3 Samus Aran Nightmare Ganondorf Frog This one is pretty straightforward. Samus is a tier above the rest, and while she might LFF Ganondorf some, 2005 showed that it probably won’t be so bad. Never bet against Frog in a close match, but this one won’t be close. Maybe he’ll fight it out with Nightmare for third place to give us some excitement. This one’s going to be a bore otherwise. Leonhart’s Pick: Samus Aran > Ganondorf Vincent Valentine Falco Lombardi Scorpion Gordon Freeman Vincent’s got this one easily, so I guess it’s basically a battle for second, and all three have a decent shot. Sure, Falco has Brawl behind him, but I don’t trust him to be worth much. Scorpion impressed me last year with his run last year. He beat Frog rather easily, something I’d have a hard time seeing Falco doing. That settles it for me, I guess. Leonhart’s Pick: Vincent Valentine > Scorpion --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Lopen | Posted 8/30/2008 1:19:02 PM | message detail |
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Well the thing with MC is, and I know I'm alone with this... but I do think that his fanbase is
the most static thing we've ever seen. The only problem was I think
L-Block hurt him more, relatively, because most of Chief's crazy
strength in this format relies on his fanbase being static. Basically what I'm saying is his static fanbase got lowered to lower levels than it ever should have been because of L-Block. Also the main thing though... I think Seph SFFed Cloud's strength is a bit overrated. Snake barely beat Sephiroth a few years ago and didn't come close to Cloud, but if you believe in MGS/FF SFF he was a bit weaker than he should've been too. If anything, we should be looking at Link in that poll. He draws 42%, Cloud draws 24%. That converts to well over a 60-40 in Link's favor were that match a 1v1, meaning that Cloud in that match is not above the Noble Nine, who are not above MC in this format. I'd take Sonic > Cloud too, if Master Chief wasn't axing him. It's just a little bit easier with the theory of MC's static fanbase to make him even stronger. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Nominate Raiden!: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44772404 |
| ZFS | Posted 8/30/2008 1:32:52 PM | message detail |
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black turtle is that you ! --- Kept you waiting, huh? |
| Lopen | Posted 8/30/2008 1:34:16 PM | message detail |
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Overrating Master Chief is my gimmick damn you !! --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Nominate Raiden!: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44772404 |
| Lopen | Posted 8/30/2008 1:36:44 PM | message detail |
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By the way Zero > MM in round 3 DARK HORSE DARK HORSE. --- Being completely serious. Nominate Raiden!: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44772404 |
