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Lopen | Posted 8/23/2008 5:28:08 PM | message detail
Frog isn't a pushover in any format really. I don't know why Turtle is saying "oh Kratos lost to people who lost to decent midcarders WHAT A JOKE." I'll give you Lloyd and especially Zelos as fodder... but Kratos? Nah. Captain Falcon is not a factor especially with Diddy there.

As for the Dog... I think he's funny to vote for because he's such a jackass. Him, CATS, and WCC (maybe) are the only joke characters I'd vote for in the bracket, just for the record. I dunno, I think some Duck Hunt fans must vote for him.

Either that or he gets blown out in epic fashion and L still has a small chance to lose due to the match becoming a virtual three way.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/23/2008 5:29:16 PM | message detail
I'll give L-Block one match -- he IS the returning champ, afterall. If THE DOG causes a first round loss for the returning champ, I'll be impressed.
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NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/23/2008 5:30:07 PM | message detail
But who's to say Diddy is sufficiently stronger than Falcon? I doubt Kratos A. finishes last in that match; he'll take advantage of a (in my opinion) likely even split between two Nintendo weaklings. Falcon lost to Wario and got killed by Fox. I can't really envision Diddy doing much better...
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Lopen | Posted 8/23/2008 5:31:10 PM | message detail
If you can't see why there'd be SFF "tiers" then I don't know what to say to you.

Samus is not rock bottom on the SFF chain. Midna is a minor side character from Zelda... of course I'm taking her to get SFFed. People said it before the match, this isn't just hindsight being 20/20.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/23/2008 5:32:52 PM | message detail
Samus is not rock bottom on the SFF chain.

She's above Mega Man; that's for darn sure.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/23/2008 5:34:45 PM | message detail
diddy kong has never made the contests before, and took him forever to get into brawl, yet falcon has made contests before and gotten into brawl before. I'd take the main character of a mid card Nintendo series over a supporting character of another mid card nintendo series
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Lopen | Posted 8/23/2008 5:35:49 PM | message detail
Captain Falcon could be stronger than Diddy.

But if you think that, you're better off taking Kratos Aurion, that's basically all there is to it.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/23/2008 5:37:16 PM | message detail
Btw when I said Brawl, I meant super smash bros series
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/23/2008 5:38:20 PM | message detail
I can see Diddy doing better than Wario in any format, especially now that it's post-SSBB. Diddy/MK before or after SSBB, I dunno, but I see Diddy more on that tier than CF's.
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NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/23/2008 5:39:07 PM | message detail
Captain Falcon could be stronger than Diddy.

But if you think that, you're better off taking Kratos Aurion, that's basically all there is to it.


Agreed. I think the split will be even enough to allow Kratos a small window of opportunity.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2864

Best example I can think of.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 8/23/2008 5:40:18 PM | message detail
Once again, compare Midna and Scorpion in their two matches. Identical both times.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 8/23/2008 5:46:07 PM | message detail
If Diddy is around the same level as Falcon, Kratos will probably get by. But there's no way I can see Diddy being anywhere NEAR that weak. Remember, Crono tripled Falcon in what is arguably his weakest year, and he only got in as a result of the nomination rally.
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__hiei__ | Posted 8/23/2008 5:46:50 PM | message detail
there shouldn't be any argument for Zidane

Shadow got more votes in a match against three of the strongest characters in the contest as Zidane did in a match where NESS almost did well enough to advance >_>


SHadow simply got screwed in that match.no midcarder would do much better than him.not against three potential noble nine breakers.

to put things more simply

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2882&num=4

Shadow would probably have WON that match.
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 8/23/2008 5:48:15 PM | message detail
Once again, compare Midna and Scorpion in their two matches. Identical both times.

Identical in what way? Scorpion lost 1/3 of his percentage, while Midna lost 1/2 of hers.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/23/2008 5:48:56 PM | message detail
DIVISION 6

- Chris Redfield vs. Fox McCloud vs. Sora vs. Tim
Sora and Fox blow the other two away, with Sora taking the comfortable win here. The day's big story, however, is Chris Redfield. I will do everything in my power to ensure he finishes in last place.

My pick: Sora > Fox

- CATS vs. Nathan Drake vs. Squall Leonhart vs. Yoshi
IN A.D. 2101

My pick: Squall > Yoshi

- Axel Steel vs. Cloud Strife vs. Midna vs. Miles Edgeworth
Cloud will open an expected can of Stone Cold Steve Austin on this match. Midna may have sucked last year, but her competition is, luckily, far too pathetic to put her in any type of jeopardy.

My pick: Cloud > Midna

- Mewtwo vs. Ness vs. Pac-Man vs. Travis Touchdown
Not many characters deserve this more than Mewtwo. A worthy Pokemon will revel in his most glorious contest moment; I can't wait for it. Ness and Pac-Man both disappointed last year, but the Pac was almost unspeakably pathetic. That's enough to go with Ness.

My pick: Mewtwo > Ness

Easiest division yet.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 8/23/2008 5:54:17 PM | message detail
I don't understand how people aren't supporting Axel Steel in that match. Midna was bloody pathetic last year, all Axel needs is to be above the fodder line to do it, and with Guitar Hero's success, I can't see him not winning here.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/23/2008 5:56:13 PM | message detail
diddy kong has never made the contests before, and took him forever to get into brawl, yet falcon has made contests before and gotten into brawl before. I'd take the main character of a mid card Nintendo series over a supporting character of another mid card nintendo series

F-Zero is not quite on the same level as Donkey Kong and Diddy's playable in more of the DK games than... DK.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/23/2008 5:57:46 PM | message detail
What does Axel Steel actually do in a rhythm game? Is he any different than those background dancers in the DDR games?
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 8/23/2008 6:05:03 PM | message detail
Not to mention Diddy Kong Racing, which more than likely outsold F-Zero X.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/23/2008 6:07:31 PM | message detail
PartOfYourWorld (#066)
What does Axel Steel actually do in a rhythm game? Is he any different than those background dancers in the DDR games?

Nope.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/23/2008 6:16:03 PM | message detail
DIVISION 7

- Big Boss vs. Jinjo vs. Kirby vs. Lucas
Kirby drains Lucas. Jinjo pulls a Zolom. Big Boss makes the cool people smile.

My pick: Kirby > Big Boss

- Kain Highwind vs. Master Chief vs. Professor Layton vs. Raiden
Apparently, the name "Highwind" means something to Final Fantasy fans. Apparently, that also doesn't matter unless the competition is weak enough, and Master Chief and a beefed up Raiden ain't.

My pick: Master Chief > Raiden

- Captain MacMillan vs. Leon Kennedy vs. Riku vs. Siegfried Schtauffen
Call of Duty 4 may have set the gaming world ablaze last year, but I doubt even loyal fans would vote for a CoD character... seems like a joke or something. This one is all about Leon and Riku. Not having looked at old stats, I wouldn't be surprised to see this going either way, especially with the possibility of the more realistic MacMillan and Siegfried negatively impacting Leon more. Still, Leon is RE personified, and I'll stick with him to the end.*

*Analysis Crew write-up will feature RE4 quotes in caps.

My pick: Leon Kennedy > Riku

- Dante vs. Hogger vs. Laharl vs. Ramza Beoulve
I'll tell ya, matches are tougher when you don't know three of the characters. Trembling with JOKEFEAR, I initially thought Hogger may have stood a chance - for Pete's sake, just read his damn name. However, that all changed once I remembered Thrall, and when I saw that my brother, a former WoW junkie, couldn't even recognize Hogger at first. I guess Ramza looks good!

My pick: Dante > Ramza

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ffmasterjose | Posted 8/23/2008 6:30:36 PM | message detail
I've also got Tidus > Donkey Kong. But I'm not at all confident about Tidus' ability to hold first. Fortunately for him, Donkey Kong is chokejob personified. I'm a wee bit worried about Cube being a strong joke character (I call them "Strokes" ...get it? Strong Jokes, lol) but I'm banking on the fact that he won't have a Cinderella run. Tails is just unfortunate enough to be in yet another situation where he can't possibly win anything, but if I'm lucky he'll sap enough votes from DK for Teedus to pull through. Wishful thinking? Yeah, you bet your ass.

Who does everyone have after Mega Man in round 2? Looking at my bracket, it's Tidus so far. Haha.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/23/2008 6:35:31 PM | message detail
I call them "Strokes" ...get it? Strong Jokes, lol

Ha, I like it! They're bound to give a few of us brain problems as well, so it's a nice double entendre. I think Tidus has DK covered, leaving that damn stroke as the only question mark. However, the more I think about it, the less I feel Cube has anywhere near the potential of L-Block, Sandbag, or even The Dog. He's just too obscure. I feel good about cutting him in Round 1.
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ZFS | Posted 8/23/2008 6:41:17 PM | message detail
To chime in on the Diddy match, I can't see him being all that strong, but he should be safely ahead of Falcon. He got in on Brawl, and he's got a series that people likely to be more much familiar with. I'd sooner expect Diddy to take a good chunk of Falcon's votes - who, more than anything else, strikes me as a bad 'fad' in the sense that he's got fans because of bad Youtubes - than for them to split. That, and trusting Tales characters to win a match is bad news.

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ffmasterjose | Posted 8/23/2008 6:43:09 PM | message detail
Let's hope so, otherwise my bracket = busted.

What's this I keep hearing about Midna advancing with Cloud? Really? Seriously? Teh mind is boggled. I know Miles is cult, but every time I've ever banked on Midna to do something, I get red in my bracket and feel like a jackass. *sob*

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/23/2008 6:43:11 PM | message detail
Your point about trusting Tales characters intrigues me. Am I really doing that? ew
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ffmasterjose | Posted 8/23/2008 6:45:31 PM | message detail
Wait nevermind, I was thinking of Tingle. Damn, heh.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 8/23/2008 6:47:44 PM | message detail
^5 HM

And I made the point about trusting Tales characters pages ago. Pay attention plz
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SonicRaptor | Posted 8/23/2008 6:51:40 PM | message detail
What does Axel Steel actually do in a rhythm game? Is he any different than those background dancers in the DDR games?

He doesn't do anything, just there to jam/play in the background. Though I will admit the look and design of all the Guitar Hero characters are unique and part of the charm.

Personally, I would have preferred Lars Umlaut if anything.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/23/2008 6:57:10 PM | message detail
Zidane was more then likely SFF'd to hell by Crono

i know this is late but why would Crono SFF Zidane when he didnt SFF Auron?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/23/2008 7:00:35 PM | message detail
I'll tell ya, matches are tougher when you don't know three of the characters. Trembling with JOKEFEAR, I initially thought Hogger may have stood a chance - for Pete's sake, just read his damn name. However, that all changed once I remembered Thrall, and when I saw that my brother, a former WoW junkie, couldn't even recognize Hogger at first. I guess Ramza looks good!

hi
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/23/2008 7:01:42 PM | message detail
That, and trusting Tales characters to win a match is bad news.

Hey, Lloyd beat the crap out of Wesker!

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ffmasterjose | Posted 8/23/2008 7:17:02 PM | message detail
Ugh, I'm so bothered by which order to put Kirby and Big Boss. If Big Boss gets his Naked Snake picture for that bout, then I could see him coming on top. But if gets his MGS1 render, Kirby's got it in the bag.

Either way, I have Kirby moving on with Master Chief in the next round, banking on SFF between Raiden and Big Boss to let Kirbs pull through.

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/23/2008 7:21:17 PM | message detail
I would worry more about BB getting his NS pic in the second round than the first, and Raiden will be in that poll. I fear a brutal assault on Raiden that round.....
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NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/23/2008 7:34:56 PM | message detail
you know, i've been thinking about Altair for a while...

looking at the past polls... it was 6% behind Mario Galaxy in 'what game are you looking forward to?'

he just might be the Ama of last year. i'm taking him to the Final 8. >_>
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 8/23/2008 7:36:12 PM | message detail
hey mario, guess what
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/23/2008 7:56:52 PM | message detail
Plus Altair's multi-platform...

...still, I'm cautious about putting a LOT of faith into that. We never got to see CoD4 in anticipation-polls to my knowledge, but there's no doubt it would have done terribly -- none of the other CoD games seem to be hyped here until their releases, and even still they never got going well until CoD4's release. It wouldn't have done well in any hype-poll, especially given the big-names that hadn't released at the time (SSBB, MGS4, Halo 3)...but it still kicked Halo 3's ass in the GotY and wouldn't be blown out by SMG.


Still though, it seemed like Assassin's Creed received mixed hype and mixed reviews here. I'm cautious about him.
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NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118
KamikazePotato | Posted 8/23/2008 7:59:49 PM | message detail
It may be worth noting that in-game Altair is a douche.

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/23/2008 8:05:34 PM | message detail

__hiei__ (#061)
there shouldn't be any argument for Zidane

Shadow got more votes in a match against three of the strongest characters in the contest as Zidane did in a match where NESS almost did well enough to advance >_>


SHadow simply got screwed in that match.no midcarder would do much better than him.not against three potential noble nine breakers.

to put things more simply

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2882&num=4

Shadow would probably have WON that match.



I think the more worrisome thing for Shadow involving Zidane is the fact that the game where almost all his popularity comes from may as well be a Nintendo exclusive, aka hello Link slaughtering your percentage. >_>

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White_Turtle | Posted 8/23/2008 8:06:26 PM | message detail
It may be worth noting that so is Sephiroth.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/23/2008 8:10:41 PM | message detail
Shadow feels less and less safe with talk like that...

...let's say for a moment that it's actually enough for Zidane to steal the win from Shadow. The next round would likely be Link/Wario/Zidane/Zack. Wario will get DESTROYED, and Zidane/Zack will duke it out over the Square vote. Zack likely beats Cecil, but Zidane is higher on the food chain...would Zack beat Zidane there, and would either of them beat an SFF'd Wario after splitting with each other?
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NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118
Haste_2 | Posted 8/23/2008 8:14:39 PM | message detail
I'll be surprised if Zack isn't a good mid-carder (as in be able to 60/40 the fodder line, i.e. Captain Falcon). He's from FF7 and he looks like Cloud, need I say more? Yeah, and being the hero of a new game doesn't hurt, either.

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smitelf | Posted 8/23/2008 8:26:22 PM | message detail
I'm trying to "finish" the first half of my bracket, but a few matches are standing in my way:

- Duke/Kefka/Marth/Niko: I think I've literally had every combination of this in my bracket.
- The L-Block Matches: L-Block will come second or third in the first round, but obviously which it is will have a huge impact. And the second round with L-Block present is terrifying.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/23/2008 8:30:51 PM | message detail
. Zack likely beats Cecil, but Zidane is higher on the food chain

Are we sure about the Zidane > Cecil thing? FFIVDS came out between this year and last year, and it looks like it had a pretty good impact on the nominators, at least... maybe Cecil has boosted since that crappy performance in 2005.
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smitelf | Posted 8/23/2008 8:40:46 PM | message detail
Personally I'd be comfortable taking Cecil > Zidane. Why? Because Zidane sucks. Who keeps nominating Zidane anyway? Could someone please round these people up into a locked room and toss in a grenades?

Cecil's got class and the old-school vote, plus a new remake on the DS. Zidane only has his own annoying ass.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/23/2008 8:41:50 PM | message detail
I would take Zidane>Cecil pretty easily, even if he has boosted.

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/23/2008 8:44:48 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2078
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2085

I'm resting my case on this.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/23/2008 8:46:41 PM | message detail
So...Mithos >> Wesker?

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ZFS | Posted 8/23/2008 8:47:24 PM | message detail
Ha. Good lord Cecil got rocked.

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