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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 556

KamikazePotato | Posted 8/22/2008 4:58:58 PM | message detail
Thing about Bowser is that's he's still stronger than Luigi 1 on 1, if not by much. It's a lot harder for a character to SFF another character intrinsically stronger than them, even in this crazy format.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/22/2008 4:59:12 PM | message detail
i'm definitely taking the liquid upset. there's no way Bowser holds up strong against Luigi if Toad managed to make him nearly lose to Mewtwo.

then see how close Bowser came to Ryu after Toad was gone... though granted Mewtwo was gone as well.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/22/2008 5:06:44 PM | message detail
Bowser lost to Ryu fair and square last year in the second round, which is why I'm going with Luigi in that match. It helps that Luigi actually beat someone stronger than him last year (albeit with picture help), and he measured up pretty well against Ganondorf even when he lost.

I'd entertain Liquid, but he looked awful in his loss and only managed to go roughly even with the likes of Ness and Alucard in his win, and this was in a year that Metal Gear characters did pretty well. I don't he's strong enough to take advantage of the split between Luigi and Bowser - Yuna couldn't turn Luigi/Ganondorf to her advantage and she whipped Liquid pretty badly.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/22/2008 5:13:33 PM | message detail
Alright, I just remembered why I haven't even Kefka a shot of advancing while I probably should.

http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff6/graphics/people/kfclwn.jpg

Coupled with facing two casual character in Marth and Niko...yeah.

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 8/22/2008 5:31:57 PM | message detail
I'm still rooting for Altair to come guns blazing for a sexy upset over Lucario thank to Brawl LFF.

Ya' never know.
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Delicinq4 | Posted 8/22/2008 5:32:54 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=45034953
ZhangJunyi | Posted 8/22/2008 5:34:54 PM | message detail
So how strong do you think Snake is this year with MGS4? Can he break Clinkerothio?

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Lopen | Posted 8/22/2008 5:38:45 PM | message detail
Yeah I've considered the Altair upset in round 2 actually. I don't think it's a bad upset to take. When I first filled out the bracket I had Kefka > Altair. Now I have Kefka > Marth. Might go back to Altair though.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/22/2008 5:45:30 PM | message detail
Snake isn't given the opportunity to do it, given the fact that the only time he's facing Sephiroth is with Cloud in the poll, and lol at that being legit.

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ChronicYouth | Posted 8/22/2008 5:51:10 PM | message detail
anyone taking liquid > bowser/luigi is seeking an upset where there just flat out isn't one. I think a lot of peopleare forgetting how weak liquid really is. Yuna would wipe the floor with him, and she couldn't take advantage of a near identical situation last year. if youre gonna make a forced upset involving liquid have roxas bounce his sorry ass to the curb a round sooner. the number one thing holding me back from that is whoever that TWEWY joker is in the match. not that I'm expecting very significant overlap, but because i think its gonna be close as hell, and that can only hurt Roxas' chances.
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 8/22/2008 5:53:30 PM | message detail
See my Altair pick came from

Marth
Kefka
Lucario
Altair

(In that order)

And then taking Altair > Lucario.

My biggest problems atm are still Luigi/ Liquid/ Bowser and then the final and whether or not MMX can nab it over Mario. I'm considering MMX even without Bowser TBQH, but that's a very risky upset.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/22/2008 5:56:41 PM | message detail
Yuna couldn't turn Luigi/Ganondorf to her advantage and she whipped Liquid pretty badly.

there's a possibility that Ganondorf can hold on better than Luigi.

i mean Bowser being that far from Ryu without Luigi even being in the picture? he'll be in a match of his life for the very least.
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ZFS | Posted 8/22/2008 6:08:24 PM | message detail
So how strong do you think Snake is this year with MGS4? Can he break Clinkerothio?

Snake's set to take full advantage of Cloud / Sephiroth SFF in the semifinals, but as far as outright beating Cloud or Link? Can't see that happening on GameFAQs. I'd love to being proven wrong on this, but asking for more than a relatively easy victory over Sephiroth gets into crazy land.


anyone taking liquid > bowser/luigi is seeking an upset where there just flat out isn't one. I think a lot of peopleare forgetting how weak liquid really is. Yuna would wipe the floor with him, and she couldn't take advantage of a near identical situation last year.

These situations aren't identical, but that concern is what makes Liquid an upset - and not the most likely one at that. But Liquid's chances at taking advantage of the split, especially when the fourth character there is Phoenix Wright and not Master Chief, are whole lot more likely than Roxas pulling off an upset. A third tier KH character ain't touching Liquid.

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Lopen | Posted 8/22/2008 6:40:23 PM | message detail
I'm not thinking Altair has enough to beat Kefka. Marth and Lucario maybe since they hurt each other... but Kefka's proven, even if he does fall on his face often. It's certainly within his range but... iffy. If Altair can beat Lucario in round 1 he should definitely be the favorite, though. I'm thinking Lucario beats Altair in round 1... then Altair beats Lucario in round 2 with Marth there... Marth though, that guy's crazy.

I'm taking X over Mario even without Bowser in the picture. Right now I've got Luigi, X, Mario, and Liquid in that match and I'm taking Mega Man X anyway. If he's anywhere near Mega Man he won't need that much for Luigi to bring Mario down enough.
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Although I think MMX is like... a clear cut below MM so I don't feel very confident there.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/22/2008 6:46:23 PM | message detail
Remember that X gets hurt by Nintendo, too. I have X winning that, but only because Mario gets hurt more by Luigi and Bowser. If it was, say, Ganondorf and Kirby instead, I'd stick with Mario.
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ZFS | Posted 8/22/2008 6:50:42 PM | message detail
I'd think MMX would get hit pretty hard by Mario there, but maybe not.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/22/2008 6:53:15 PM | message detail
you know i've been thinking about Tidus for a while, and it's very possible that Donkey Kong could outrank him even with Olimar and...

.. nah.
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ChronicYouth | Posted 8/22/2008 6:55:19 PM | message detail
I've had DK > Tidus since first glance.

Long live the ape!

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 8/22/2008 6:57:40 PM | message detail
Pssh.

I'm taking MM and the cube there because it's awesome and I love the cube. Same as GLaDOS, she doesn't stand a chance against Falco, but I have to pick her because I won't win anyway, I'm not eligible to win anything if I did, and if shock of all shocks GLaDOS did make it, I would hate myself for it.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 8/22/2008 7:14:58 PM | message detail

Snake's set to take full advantage of Cloud / Sephiroth SFF in the semifinals, but as far as outright beating Cloud or Link? Can't see that happening on GameFAQs. I'd love to being proven wrong on this, but asking for more than a relatively easy victory over Sephiroth gets into crazy land.


Dammit HM, here I am picking Link > Snake in the finals, and thinking that even if everyone thinks I'm crazy, at least HM will back me up on it. And here you are throwing a brick right into my face. Why?
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trannyscience | Posted 8/22/2008 7:15:50 PM | message detail
what are you basing it on.. Vincent?

if so, look at the Sephiroth match last year and change your bracket.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/22/2008 7:17:09 PM | message detail
quit. someone tell me the roles of both Thrall and Arthas and how important they are to the game.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 8/22/2008 7:54:22 PM | message detail
I've had DK > Tidus since first glance.

Long live the ape!


DK is a notorious choker: be warned.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/22/2008 7:58:12 PM | message detail
and Tidus choked last year as well against a rat. he didnt even make it close.

meanwhile DK would have gotten a similar percentage on Kratos.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 8/22/2008 8:12:51 PM | message detail
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XxSoulxX | Posted 8/22/2008 8:59:34 PM | message detail
what are you basing it on.. Vincent?

if so, look at the Sephiroth match last year and change your bracket.


If Vincent makes it, then that Snake > Cloud upset has no shot of happening. I'm thinking Crono makes it to the final. If that's the case, he'll hold up much more to the SFF, and will drag Cloud down pretty well. Might not be enough, but I need an upset somewhere!
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XxSoulxX | Posted 8/22/2008 9:03:14 PM | message detail
quit. someone tell me the roles of both Thrall and Arthas and how important they are to the game.

WC3 or WoW? Arthas isn't in WoW, Thrall apparently is just some NPC in a city.

In WC3, Thrall is basically the main orc in the Orc Campaign, and can be played later on in the Night Elves Campaign as well.

Arthas is the main human in the game. He is eventually corrupted, and kills all of his friends and joins the Undead.

In TFT, Thrall does nothing. Arthas loses his powers, and you use him and regain them. You have an epic battle with Illidan at the end of the game, where you defeat him and rule once again.

Basically, Arthas is the main character in the Warcraft franchise. Thrall is one of the main Orcs.
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transience | Posted 8/22/2008 9:03:47 PM | message detail
man, don't go looking for an upset! my bracket at this point is ridiculous though. I think I've given up on rational thinking and now just pick names that are aesthetically pleasing to my eyes.
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/22/2008 9:07:04 PM | message detail
Prince of Persia would likely make a good match with Kefka. I'm having a tough time seeing Altair (who seems comparable to PoP, but less known) making it past the second round. Still, it's a tough set.

I have Marth > Niko and Lucario > Altair Round 1, followed by Niko > Marth for the second round. Initially Lucario felt like a powerhouse (I even had it getting first in R2 at one point), but then I realized he's probably lightyears behind Mewtwo, and is most likely below Marth.

Do you think Companion Cube has any chance of getting past the first round? Being against -both- DK and Tidus...? =P Throw in Tails and you've got three characters almost evenly split (close enough), giving the perfect opportunity for concentrated joke votes. And if you remember last year's joke-match final, WCC actually got about 2/3 the amount of votes L-Block got. The scary thing is, if WCC makes it past the first round, it likely makes it all the way to Snake/Mega Man/Zero. And, if MM and Zero split enough, maybe WCC can make it yet -another- round. Hrm, Mega Man would probably still stop it. It shouldn't be anywhere near a Riku/Roxas situation.

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/22/2008 9:12:07 PM | message detail
One on one, Tails may be in contention with DK or Tidus...but in this format, that feels ill-fated. Who remembers The Boss beating Tails last year?
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/22/2008 11:01:28 PM | message detail
So...I'm gonna try sticking some of our newcomers this year in some four-packs from last year and see we stand on certain principles:


Marcus Fenix
Kefka
Zack Fair
Zelos Wilder

Banjo
Captain Falcon
Captain Olimar
Wario

Princess Peach
Meta Knight
Sandbag
Sephiroth
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 8/22/2008 11:02:09 PM | message detail
2007 is irrelevant. there is no proof of Zero ever being higher than Bowser since 2004 and we all know his 2004 strength is just wishful thinking.

quit the bias.


What are you talking about? I was talking about Yoshi > Bowser.

I got Zero > Bowers based on where I think Luigi is in relation to Yoshi, and accounting for MM/Nintendo SFF.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 8/22/2008 11:06:35 PM | message detail
Marcus > Zack
Wario > Falcon
Sephy > MK
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ZFS | Posted 8/22/2008 11:20:46 PM | message detail
Dammit HM, here I am picking Link > Snake in the finals, and thinking that even if everyone thinks I'm crazy, at least HM will back me up on it. And here you are throwing a brick right into my face. Why?

Ha. Well, I've got no delusions about what Snake falls in the GameFAQs hierarchy - it's safely behind FFVII and Zelda. If there were ever a chance for someone to challenge the Link / Cloud dominance, there's not a better person to do than Snake this year, but I can't see a situation that's favorable to him. Vincent in the finals does nothing for him, Crono there...maybe but even that's a major stretch, and if L-Block is there forget it - we saw that one already.

But this bracket is so wacky and ridiculous that you may as well go all out with somebody - and that somebody might as well be Snake on the back of MGS4 and Brawl.

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Delicinq4 | Posted 8/22/2008 11:22:30 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=45040498

List of Series, with the characters from them in the contest.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/22/2008 11:31:42 PM | message detail
All this talk of Luigi hurting Mario in that MMX match reminds me of people who always used to argue Sephiroth could beat Cloud.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/22/2008 11:34:34 PM | message detail
*RKOs Ulti*

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/22/2008 11:40:01 PM | message detail
I purposely left my bracket alone for a day. I'm now looking through it again, and I've made like 146 changes in the first division. This bracket will be the death of me.
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transience | Posted 8/22/2008 11:40:57 PM | message detail
you should see mine. you'd think I was Heroic Mario or something with the things I'm championing.
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transience | Posted 8/22/2008 11:41:28 PM | message detail
this bracket is stupid though. it's not about what you think of characters, it's who they're with. you make one change in round 2 somewhere and you suddenly have a different final.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/22/2008 11:43:28 PM | message detail
Amazingly, I'm still reading posts that start with "the only question mark is," "the only thing I'm unsure of," "the only difficult thing"...
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/22/2008 11:44:32 PM | message detail
The only question mark is the only difficult thing, which happens to be the only thing I'm unsure of.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/23/2008 12:11:07 AM | message detail
ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/23/2008 2:34:34 AM (#385)

*RKOs Ulti*



I RKOd you first, son. Right on Swift's bed, BOOM.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/23/2008 12:19:56 AM | message detail
L-Block's performance is such a *****. It's really gonna make or break like a million brackets including mine.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/23/2008 12:40:33 AM | message detail
The later rounds are going to destroy everyone. I'll be shocked if someone gets most of the later rounds right considering the circumstances could change greatly depending on who advances early. A clear blowout for one character can turn into trouble if other characters from the same fanbase turn up, leading to some complete surprise squeaking through.

I don't care how good a predictor one is, this contest is going to be won on pure luck.
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voltch | Posted 8/23/2008 12:41:07 AM | message detail
urgh,i'm gonna have to study on the B8 wiki a bit.

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voltch | Posted 8/23/2008 3:06:43 AM | message detail
yeah,take off peach in the first round and Metaknight looks pretty decent,in his maatches he's always been stuck with other brawlers so i guess without them he should be taking second place.
+i reckon the Board vote won't be going for the block like last time,the dog will be taking some of that logically L-Block should go out in round 1 and even 2.
could be the first time a defending champ loses in the first round actually.
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consolefreak | Posted 8/23/2008 4:24:19 AM | message detail
Is anyone not taking Nero to get out of round 2 with Mega Man? It seems like the obvious pick to me, but then again I don't know any of these characters.

In the semi-finals I have Cloud-Snake-Sephirorth-Sonic. I think Snake has a pretty good chance here to upset Cloud. Not likely, but definitely possible.
Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/23/2008 5:11:44 AM | message detail
When I first filled out my bracket I had Nero making it the 3rd Round but I've since changed it to Mega Man > Tidus.

This time around there won't be another Square character to hold Tidus down. I see Mega Man eating up majority of the votes (DK will look very bad) and MM and Nero both being Capcom characters makes this pick alot easier. Not saying MM will affect Nero but there is a chance.

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consolefreak | Posted 8/23/2008 5:22:55 AM | message detail
Yeah I meant to say "making it TO round 2", no way I'm taking Nero over Tidus or Mega Man. I was thinking Olimar might try something in round 1, but I don't really know how popular he'd be.
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