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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 555

MnMZero | Posted 8/20/2008 5:34:24 AM | message detail
*looks at poll*

Ryu's contest stock: plummeting.

We need SFIV more than ever.

*mumbles* 30% of the site doesn't know what a Shoryuken is... ridiculous
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linkhatesganon | Posted 8/20/2008 5:42:50 AM | message detail
Luigi
Kirby
Ganondorf
Fox McCloud

Ganondorf > Luigi

Vivi
Alucard
Kratos
Charizard

Kratos > Vivi (yes bias >_>)

Link
Mario
Samus
Solid Snake

Link > Snake?
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H__RR____H | Posted 8/20/2008 6:37:55 AM | message detail
I'm going with.....


2-Luigi
Kirby
1-Ganondorf
Fox McCloud

We saw Ganon beat Luigi in the second round by 3%, and it took a bad picture for Luigi to win by 1%. I also feel like Kirby and Fox are going to bother Luigi than Ganon, too, though it's hard to tell...and I can see Kirby pulling an upset, too. He seems to me like he could hold up particularly well though Luigi's beaten him before.


2-Vivi
Alucard
Kratos
1-Charizard

Between the impressions left from Pikachu/Mewtwo/Mudkip/Bidoof's matches, Pikachu already ousting Vivi once last year (albeit thanks to LFF), Ness coming close in Alucard's first round match, DK likely competing with Kratos last year if it wasn't for Marth or Kirby, and Charizard being the only Nintendo/non-PS star...I gotta trust the 'zard. From there, it's tough between Vivi/Kratos, but I think Vivi's fanbase will hold up better, especially without Tidus in the mix this time.


1-Link
Mario
Samus
2-Solid Snake

Link looked too good in the first day of the Battle Royale in 2006. Solid would get a little over half of what's left from Cloud/Seph there, but Link would get the majority of the rest of the Nintendo votes...and LoZ:TP hadn't been released by that point, not to mention SSBB, LoZ:PH, LoZ:OoT selling well on the VC, and even Crossbow Training. MKW, SMG, and MP3 hadn't been released yet either, but Link's still got the big advantage there. Nintendo has also become much more dominant since then. MGS4 would help Solid a lot and SSBB couldn't hurt him, but his SSBB-pull probably wouldn't stick in a match with Nintendo's three biggest icons. It's still ultimately Link's match to lose...but man, it could be close!
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/20/2008 6:39:04 AM | message detail

BlAcK TuRtLe (#100)
Games nowadays don't seem to have the staying power they did 15 years ago.


Or maybe your attention span sucks now. Mine certainly does since I can't get myself to beat a game anymore before getting bored halfway through.
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H__RR____H | Posted 8/20/2008 6:58:40 AM | message detail
I'll throw two more out there:



Phoenix Wright
Captain Olimar
CATS
Kefka

Zero
Yoshi
Dante
Sora
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Xuxon | Posted 8/20/2008 7:03:07 AM | message detail
Luigi
Kirby
Ganondorf
Fox McCloud

Kirby > Luigi. I think Ganon > Luigi in an ordinary 4-way with 2 more unrelated characters, but I think the full-on Nintendo hurts Ganon and helps Kirby relative to Luigi.

Vivi
Alucard
Kratos
Charizard

Charizard > Kratos. Charizard is the least like the others, and likely the strongest behind Kratos anyway. Just a gut feeling.

Link
Mario
Samus
Solid Snake

Link > Snake. Is it really worth commenting on?
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/20/2008 7:13:19 AM | message detail
I'll throw two more out there:



Phoenix Wright
Captain Olimar
CATS
Kefka

....Give me Kefka > Wrighto. Kefka will be well out of anybody here's range, and if Wright/Olimar is close, Wrighto WILL win.

Zero
Yoshi
Dante
Sora

...Yoshi > Dante. If Leon can hurt Dante enough to allow Pikachu to win easily, Zero can hurt Dante enough for Yoshi to win.

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H__RR____H | Posted 8/20/2008 7:28:03 AM | message detail
Kefka will be well out of range?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2874
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2088
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1732
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2867


I don't think it's fair to say Kefka's out of range. Maybe the favorite, but out of range seems exaggerated.
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Xuxon | Posted 8/20/2008 7:42:43 AM | message detail
I'd at least consider Phoenix over Kefka in that match. No clue on the other one though.
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MnMZero | Posted 8/20/2008 8:09:05 AM | message detail
...Yoshi > Dante. If Leon can hurt Dante enough to allow Pikachu to win easily, Zero can hurt Dante enough for Yoshi to win.

You know... I think Zero would hurt Yoshi more than he'd hurt Dante...
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/20/2008 8:47:54 AM | message detail
Uh oh, it happened again...

ATTN: HM

I was out on vacation last week and for the second month in a row, it looks like your NPD topic purged before I got to see it. Think you could repost the numbers in here for me?

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H__RR____H | Posted 8/20/2008 9:06:05 AM | message detail
I'd be inclined to think Zero would hurt Yoshi more too (assuming there's got to be an anomaly here), but I wouldn't think he'd hurt Yoshi or Dante particularly bad.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/20/2008 9:32:07 AM | message detail
Phoenix Wright>Kefka

Olimar isn't winning, he simply isn't popular enough. Kefka is getting worse and worse each year.

Yoshi>Dante

Yoshi does really well in 4-way polls, considering his performance last year and how he does in the Favorite Mario Character polls.

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H__RR____H | Posted 8/20/2008 9:39:38 AM | message detail
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H__RR____H | Posted 8/20/2008 9:42:15 AM | message detail
Also, going back to the first pack, on top of the polls I already mentioned, if you were to try the rough extrapolation that is basing Kefka off of Fenix if Kefka/Fenix and Fenix/Ryu (assuming Ryu-2k6) in the first and third rounds (respectively) solely by their votes, Kefka lands a little under Phoenix-2k6. Haha, what a stretch of the numbers...but still, Kefka's not looking any better and Phoenix looked stronger last year (format be damned). It backs up what the polls I posted showed: Kefka isn't exactly smooth-sailing in that match.

Since the idea of it maybe being close between Phoenix and Kefka is up, it's worth saying that -- while Phoenix has definitely shown rally-potential -- Kefka has too and has been caught for cheating before as well. Phoenix hasn't had to face somebody that rallies back yet, and Kefka would challenge him there. It would be a lot of fun watching the board raly between them...

...for second place as Captain Olimar blows them out!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/20/2008 9:47:06 AM | message detail
It would be a lot of fun watching the board raly between them...

Some people would go for Kefka, but this Board is still overwhelmingly Phoenix Wright in all things. Kefka wouldn't win that fight by a long shot (at least on B8, he'll still get all the external rallies).

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Midget_Fetish | Posted 8/20/2008 9:47:27 AM | message detail
Wright > Kefka

honestly when is the last time Kefka actually won a match. my faith in his ability to come in first = null

the second fourpack I have no idea on. x_x

I guess...Sora > Yoshi
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H__RR____H | Posted 8/20/2008 9:51:46 AM | message detail
I agree PW would win the rally-battle on B8, but I'm saying it wouldn't be nearly as one-sided as other rallies like PW > Bomberman or Frog > Axel. Thus, it would be more difficult for PW to rally and pull a come-from-behind victory against Kefka if it's close and in Kefka's advantage.
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Yesmar | Posted 8/20/2008 9:53:53 AM | message detail
I would take Kefka > Phoenix Wright. I don't think much of Olimar even after Brawl. The only thing that worrys me is if Kefka doesn't benefit at all from the format which we have no clue on. If he doesn't, then Phoenix possibly stands a chance.

Kefka lands a little under Phoenix-2k6

Kefka probably is below what Phoenix was listed as in 2006, but Phoenix's value in 2006 is based off of a Samus who's at 45 on BL, a Gordon Freeman who obviously overperformed on Sora, and IMO, possible rSFF in his match against Gordon. Gordon's entire Board 8 contingent was gone in that match.
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Billy Blaze | Posted 8/20/2008 9:56:02 AM | message detail
PW over Kefka? As low as Kefka and 2d FF characters seem to get, PW being around Bomberman's level doesn't really inspire any confidence.

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H__RR____H | Posted 8/20/2008 10:11:24 AM | message detail
For the record, Bomberman wouldn't flop against Kefka by any means. I doubt he'd win, but the lil' guy would likely make a match of it.
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linkhatesganon | Posted 8/20/2008 10:23:42 AM | message detail
Phoenix Wright
Captain Olimar
CATS
Kefka

Phoenix > Kefka

Zero
Yoshi
Dante
Sora

Yoshi > Dante
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voltch | Posted 8/20/2008 10:26:49 AM | message detail
man already midweek and still no bracket,odds of a bracket after the olympics?
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 8/20/2008 10:27:48 AM | message detail
I think I'd have to go:

Kefka > Wright
When in doubt go with FF.

Dante > Sora
You can switch Sora with Yoshi cause that's how close I see it being but I'd go with the upset.

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Yesmar | Posted 8/20/2008 10:33:59 AM | message detail
I would go with Sora > Yoshi for the other one. They all appear to be the same popularity to me, so when in doubt I'll go with who seems more likely to be the most popular two in the poll.
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H__RR____H | Posted 8/20/2008 10:43:09 AM | message detail
I like the second pack a lot since Yoshi and Zero are such huge fan-favorites in their own series while Sora and Dante are big names in their own right that are right on par or stronger than them. From there, people can talk about Capcom, Mega Man/Nintendo, cutesy-ness, characters who made their name on the SNES VS names made on the PS2...it could be fun in a lot of ways.
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Lopen | Posted 8/20/2008 10:51:13 AM | message detail
Phoenix Wright
Captain Olimar
CATS
Kefka

Kefka > Phoenix Wright.
... what? I don't understand why Olimar and CATS are in here. Well, I guess it's to have two supremely weak characters, which actually does change my prediction. With slightly stronger characters I'd have Phoenix beating Kefka.

Zero
Yoshi
Dante
Sora

Dante > Sora.
Yoshi and Zero, while they don't hurt each other much I do believe they will a little... just enough for Sora to squeak by here.
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Malakuko | Posted 8/20/2008 11:00:17 AM | message detail
You people seem to be foregetting that we have absolutely no idea how strong Olimar is.

We know he's weaker than Mario and that's it.

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SFF_potential | Posted 8/20/2008 11:00:20 AM | message detail
Kefka>Wright
I can see it being close but i think Kefka is a bit above Phoenix, the other 2 are fodder

Yoshi>Dante
It'll be close but i'd go yoshi>dante 1v1 so i'll go with that in a 4-way, and these 2 should be stronger than the other 2 in their match
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Lopen | Posted 8/20/2008 11:08:36 AM | message detail
I don't really give Pikmin much credit on this site, much less Olimar. I'm not really even paying attention to his 2002 match... that could be Lucas or a handful of other Smash characters and I'd say the same thing.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/20/2008 12:29:12 PM | message detail
You people seem to be foregetting that we have absolutely no idea how strong Olimar is.

well he can't be too far away from Falcon so yeah, that's how strong he is.

then put him in a format where only hardcore brawl players/pikmin fans will vote for him and he's sunk.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/20/2008 12:31:34 PM | message detail
The amount of Kefka pickers surprises me. Phoenix may be Phoenix, but Kefka has consistently burned the entire board since Day 1 and people never stop supporting him.

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/20/2008 4:03:59 PM | message detail
Old news, but noms are closed. :D
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SFF_potential | Posted 8/20/2008 4:06:45 PM | message detail
how long does the bracket normally take to turn up?

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/20/2008 4:12:02 PM | message detail
depends on how quick SB was (if he issued the bracket) last year.
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ZFS | Posted 8/20/2008 4:14:39 PM | message detail
Friday sounds like the right time for the bracket.

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Malakuko | Posted 8/20/2008 5:26:04 PM | message detail
more like

right now

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/20/2008 5:38:24 PM | message detail
I'm calling bracket Friday, which sucks because I have a party that night, and am heading out to camp in the morning.

No early leaderboard action for me =(

Phoenix Wright
Captain Olimar
CATS
Kefka

Zero
Yoshi
Dante
Sora

Kefka > Wright

Dante > Sora

I would put Sora Dante and Yoshi close to eachother with Zero a bit behind them, but all evidence seems to point at massive Nintendo/Mega man overlap. Mega Man/Yoshi, Mario/Zero, Mega Man/Link, Luigi/Zero and Link/Crono/Vincent/Zero. Zero would hurt Yoshi enough that Dante and Sora should do it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/20/2008 7:08:34 PM | message detail
Last year SB issued the bracket the very day nominations closed, so...

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/20/2008 7:09:53 PM | message detail
Bracket at midnight plssss

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Lopen | Posted 8/20/2008 7:59:53 PM | message detail
Oooh, closed nominations, yay. I didn't even notice till this topic told me.
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Malakuko | Posted 8/20/2008 8:01:44 PM | message detail
we better get it at midnight

hey that is in ONE HOUR

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Gaddswell | Posted 8/20/2008 9:03:55 PM | message detail
No bracket yet. Hope it's up soon.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/20/2008 9:21:05 PM | message detail
I have a feeling this is gonna one ****ed up bracket. Weird seedings and what not. Like Samus with a 4th Seed or something nuts like that. Maybe I'm just crazy, but I just have a peculiar feeling.
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Malakuko | Posted 8/20/2008 9:21:38 PM | message detail
I hope so

****ed up brackets are rad

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/20/2008 9:22:47 PM | message detail
We haven't seen a truly weird one in awhile. I mean I guess the four way was weird in a traditional sense, but it was pre-made to be nuts, so I don't really count that. 04 was something I'd probably classify as crazy.
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Lopen | Posted 8/21/2008 12:31:20 AM | message detail
02 had the greatest bracket.

1 seeded Pac Man. Gotta love it. Imagine if something like that were pulled today.
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voltch | Posted 8/21/2008 1:28:47 AM | message detail
i hope we get ****** up seedings that screw the casuals,last year we had a lot of fun with all these people who were illiterate,i wasn't there for Halo vs Starcraft but I assume a lot of casuals started bleeding all over the place.
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Malakuko | Posted 8/21/2008 7:23:39 AM | message detail
Man I can't wait to see Snake this year

am I the only one who could see him upsetting Mario or Sephiroth?

(You should have nominated Nana)
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/21/2008 7:25:44 AM | message detail
Mario.. sure; Sephiroth, wishful thinking.
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