GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 554
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 4:35:54 PM | message detail |
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I'm not surprise if Kratos outright beats Ryu. I wouldn't go quite THAT far yet. GoW2 isn't going to do quite THAT much for him. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/11/2008 4:36:37 PM | message detail |
| Going back to an earlier topic, isn't
OoT/Goldeneye the best comparison with FF/MGS? Both are games with
little in common other than being must-haves for their particular
consoles, yet there was substantial SFF there. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. Brawl FC: 4253-3155-6697 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/11/2008 4:39:10 PM | message detail |
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Kratos also had his PSP game. How big was that, anyway? --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. Brawl FC: 4253-3155-6697 |
| ZFS | Posted 8/11/2008 4:40:14 PM | message detail |
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I probably wouldn't take Kratos over Ryu, but it wouldn't surprise me
if it happened. Kratos is one of those who seems like the only place he
has to go each year is up. --- http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p275/kevinsmells1/Kevin/BigBoss.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 8/11/2008 4:43:27 PM | message detail |
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1. I have no idea why you'd call for more SFF between Kratos/Snake than Riku/Snake after seeing Snake/Sora. 2. I don't agree that GoW2 had higher critical acclaim. I don't really remember much being said about it... nothing on the level of GoW1, at least. Maybe sales disagree with me, but unless something overwhelming comes along on that front I'm inclined to believe my perspective on that matter as being closer to the real deal. After all, with you being Mr. [GN] guy I don't think your grasp on casual recognition is exactly the most sound, no offense intended. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/11/2008 4:51:48 PM | message detail |
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Raiden backup has arrived. Kratos is lame. --- Gilgamesh (Final Fantasy V) is awesome. Nominate him for Character Battle 7! http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/12rw-gilgamesh-a.jpg |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/11/2008 5:00:15 PM | message detail |
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Kratos is totally underrated. HM has the right idea this time. --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/11/2008 5:13:05 PM | message detail |
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I don't agree that GoW2 had higher critical acclaim. I don't really
remember much being said about it... nothing on the level of GoW1, at
least. They're about the same, really. GoW2 has a very slightly higher rating on GameFAQs, and GoW1 has an even more slightly higher rating on GameRankings. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. Brawl FC: 4253-3155-6697 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/11/2008 5:13:08 PM | message detail |
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--- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| Lopen | Posted 8/11/2008 5:36:51 PM | message detail |
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Well, to correct myself somewhat, critical acclaim isn't really what I
meant. I meant critical acclaim that matters in a contest setting,
which is a combination of hype and how well reviews did. GoW2 just
seemed a good deal behind GoW1 in this regard, primarily on the hype
front. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/11/2008 6:07:24 PM | message detail |
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First of all, sorry Lopen for trying to steal your thunder with MC. I'll just stick to Kratos and Pikachu. Secondly, Squall and Vinny were damn near even in 2005. In 2006, They both looked similar in the stats, but they had Kingdom Hearts 2 and Doc/Advent Children. 2007 however was definitely Squall's year. His performance against Sonic despite Sora (very strong in his own right) being there is much more impressive than Vincent beating a Crono who a) Shared a terrible year with his cast mates and b) Shared that poll with a decently strong SNES character and ****ing LINK. Thirdly, God of War 2 was HUGE for Kratos. You can see it in the way he manhandled Kirby, and how he would have easily advanced had it not been for that damned block. Expect Kratos to be high-tier after GoW3, at least around Ryu's level. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/11/2008 6:08:20 PM | message detail |
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Also lol raiden --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Lopen | Posted 8/11/2008 6:41:50 PM | message detail |
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I'm not trying to be possessive about calling MC, but I think if you
didn't have him advancing over Sonic it really wasn't that bold so much
as "calling a debated group correctly." Your other "gloat picks" were
for sure, though. Still think were it not for the L-Block Kirby would've advanced to round 4. Especially considering it was the Sprite round. Only reason Kirby "got manhandled" by Kratos was because DK was sapping his power. I had Kratos > Kirby in round 2 and Snake > Kirby in round 3, and I think that's what would've happened. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 |
| Lopen | Posted 8/11/2008 8:23:14 PM | message detail |
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Man, I'm sniffin around stuff, I come across this: http://www.thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?year=2007c What is this. I didn't know "lol X-Stats" had 2007 stats (or maybe I did and forgot). Well, may as well, at least now I can make MC beat Mario at my whim. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/11/2008 8:31:19 PM | message detail |
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1 L-Block 2007c64.83 2 Link 2007c 59.90 3 Cloud 2007c51.90 4 Sephiroth 2007c49.25 5 Snake 2007c45.41 6 Mario 2007c42.07 7 Samus 2007c41.23 8 Mega Man 2007c39.02 9 Master Chief 2007c37.79 10 Sonic 2007c36.54 11 Vincent 2007c36.25 12 Squall 2007c35.43 13 Auron 2007c34.73 14 Crono 2007c34.61 15 Zero 2007c33.32 16 Dante 2007c 33.17 17 Yoshi 2007c 32.27 18 Ganondorf 2007c31.88 19 Zelda 2007c30.74 20 Luigi 2007c29.78 Interesting top 20, bad stats aside. Zero > Dante > Yoshi is pretty good, and Mega Man >>> Sonic is also great. Interesting to see Vinny and Squall still close. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 8:33:29 PM | message detail |
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Those stats are worthless and you know it. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 8/11/2008 8:38:31 PM | message detail |
| Those stats are worthless in the sense that they
only apply to 4 way battles which we are unlikely to see too many of in
the near future. We don't actually know if they are accurate or not
since we haven't had any 4 way matches since the previous contest to
test them. --- Nominate Presea Combatir for the GameFAQs Character Contest! http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/nominate_entry.html |
| yoshifan823 | Posted 8/11/2008 8:41:05 PM | message detail |
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No, because even then, the odds that people will make a huge deal of
making sure that L-Block wins are slim to none. L-Block wouldn't have
gotten out of the third round if the rest of the internet hadn't
intervened. --- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Guru winnah Explicit Content, that's quis. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 8/11/2008 9:05:56 PM | message detail |
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Lopen, those stats were created by Haste, who made use of creative's 4
way formula. Basically the adjusted stats take the value of a character
in the match where there was the least LFF holding him back (for
instance Auron's 2nd round value) while the Raw is a straight up result
of the match he was eliminated (for instance Auron getting shut down by
Cloud). Everyone jumps on the '07 stats and calls them useless, which they of course largely are when applied to a 1v1 setting, but honestly Haste did the best job he could in creating them, and if we where to ever have another 4 way I do think they would come in handy, aside from where L-Block blew things to pieces. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/11/2008 9:12:22 PM | message detail |
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Interesting top 20 man i love this guy. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 8/11/2008 9:25:42 PM | message detail |
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Well now, today's PotD should certainly do wonders for tranny's Braid campaign. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| transience | Posted 8/11/2008 10:00:13 PM | message detail |
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nominate Tim and bask in awesomeness --- xyzzy nominate Tim from Braid -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CByBMKiiHtA awww yeah |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 11:16:49 PM | message detail |
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aside from where L-Block blew things to pieces. Which is the main problem with the stats and the main reason why they're essentially unusable. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| Janus5000 | Posted 8/11/2008 11:25:40 PM | message detail |
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45 Bidoof 2007c 21.32 46 Magus 2007c 21.17 Bidoof > Sonic confirmed --- http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/HowDisturbing/stayawhile.jpg Stay a while and breathe me in. |
| voltch | Posted 8/12/2008 2:06:36 AM | message detail |
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right about now,it's starting to become a matter of who you decide to trust when asking for advice. --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/12/2008 6:38:52 AM | message detail |
| Oh, and while we're on the subject.... NGamer, I
need to tell you again that there are certain errors in the x-stats
(not to be confused with the x-stats being inaccurate in GENERAL,
though!), which appeared for some unknown reason....I know that Zero's
value is one of those errors. I hope you still have those spreadsheets
I e-mailed you way back, so you can just re-paste the x-stats. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| SFF_potential | Posted 8/12/2008 6:49:12 AM | message detail |
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Master Chief (2007c raw) VS Sephiroth (2007c raw) Master Chief has a strength of 50.17. Sephiroth has a strength of 30.27. Master Chief wins with 69.83% of the vote! A win of 62,708 with 158,093 total votes cast. woah! lol x-stats really shows how unreliable last year was --- http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8941/166036donotfalldownstaiem0.gif Nominate Ark from Terranigma for the 2008 character battle! |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/12/2008 7:15:22 AM | message detail |
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But Kirby > Link! 2007 was the best thing to happen concerning manipulating raw stats to make any character win any match you want since CATS outdid Ganondorf on Link. Now you could basically make anyone besides Tanner beat anybody else. --- i got nuthin |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/12/2008 7:51:42 AM | message detail |
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I know that Zero's value is one of those errors. LOL BT --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/12/2008 1:39:09 PM | message detail |
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Over 163,000 total nominations so far. That means around 10,800 people have nominated! --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| SFF_potential | Posted 8/12/2008 1:44:48 PM | message detail |
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must mean a character will need a LOT of support to make it to the bracket probably means there won't be too much fodder/joke characters --- http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/159/tenchi06oj6.jpg http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/55/tenchi01jt4.jpg Nominate Ark from Terranigma for the 2008 character battle |
| Lopen | Posted 8/12/2008 1:47:56 PM | message detail |
| Not necessarily. Probably a lot of overlap in the
nominations so far, and there are likely to be 128 spots. Don't see why
this year would have much more nominations... probably the same amount
and we just didn't know the number before. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 |
| Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 8/12/2008 1:48:14 PM | message detail |
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For Zero to get that high in the stats, my guess is you just based his final number off of his round 2 match against Crono. Which is probably the most accurate way to do it. See how great Zero does when he isn't against Mario, Luigi or Link? |
| SFF_potential | Posted 8/12/2008 1:49:32 PM | message detail |
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yeah, i guess over half of the people nominating have a few of link/cloud/mario/samus/snake etc. --- http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/159/tenchi06oj6.jpg http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/55/tenchi01jt4.jpg Nominate Ark from Terranigma for the 2008 character battle |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2008 4:31:14 PM | message detail |
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Considering there are people on B8 nominating characters like Link, and
we know better...yeah, there's going to be a TON of overlap. Not to
mention random obscure characters that don't have a chance. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 8/12/2008 4:39:08 PM | message detail |
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have some random (probably terrible) four-way four-packs feel free to predict who wins out of the lot Big Boss Frog Cid Highwind King Dedede Arbiter Gordon Freeman Miles “Tails” Prower Kairi Donkey Kong Arthas Menethil Balthier Bunansa Niko Bellic Roxas Claire Redfield Midna Thrall --- This was KING BELLIS LOL ed status: UGH SHARP ELBOWS |
| SFF_potential | Posted 8/12/2008 4:51:39 PM | message detail |
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don't even know how well half of them will do- complete guess R1 Cid>Frog - yeah a playable FF7 character should beat Frog, and i think Frog can beat Big Boss(hes Frog) Gordon>Kairi - no idea, just don't think much of arbiter Niko>DK - could go the other way Midna>Roxas - no idea, midna didn't impress last year, but shes still a zelda character R2 Cid>Frog yeah, Frog>Gordon Niko>DK - same as last round R3 Cid>Niko - yeah, Cid is the only good midcarder in this group, i think Niko right now would just beat frog Cid would destroy this lot --- http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/159/tenchi06oj6.jpg http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/55/tenchi01jt4.jpg Nominate Ark from Terranigma for the 2008 character battle |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/12/2008 5:06:46 PM | message detail |
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R1: If Big Boss gets an MGS4 or MGS3 pic: Big Boss > Cid in a very close match. If Big Boss gets the pic he did against Auron in 2k5: Cid > Frog Arbiter > Gordon: The format will help Arbiter look stronger than he normally is, while after seeing how Peach and Zelda did, I refuse to believe Kairi will look good. DK > Arthas: Balthier lost to Ada Wong. Vercetti looked like a joke in his match, so I'll trust Arthas to pull out 2nd. Claire > Roxas: ....this is a REALLY weak fourpack. R2: If MGS3/4 pic thingy: Cid > Big Boss. If not: Cid > Frog DK > Arthas: ....sorry, Roxas. R3: If good Big Boss pics: Cid > Big Boss If poor Big Boss pics: Cid > DK After Big Boss tore into Magus with a good pic last contest, I have faith that with a good picture he'll genuinely be pretty strong. .....Big Boss fear aww yeah --- Nominate King Harkinian from Link: The Faces of Evil! Mah boi, this contest is what all true fanboys strive for! |
| ZFS | Posted 8/12/2008 5:12:00 PM | message detail |
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A thought before I tackle these - I'm a lot less worried about a "bad" pic for Big Boss after MGS4. --- http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p275/kevinsmells1/Kevin/BigBoss.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/12/2008 5:15:16 PM | message detail |
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Cid>BB (if Snake picture) Pretty straightforward. Gordon Freeman>Miles “Tails” Prower I don't trust female contest results much; Tails should take Kairi. Arbiter I doubt would be strong. Donkey Kong>Niko Bellic . Arthas may be a little stronger than Diablo (maybe), but Diablo isn't very strong to begin with. Balthier is...yeah. Roxas>Midna Thrall lost to Vergil. Roxas actually did okay in a poll filled with LFF. Entire four=pack is debatale though. --- Brawl FC: 4296-2658-3681 (KP) |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/12/2008 5:15:52 PM | message detail |
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HM, there's a huge difference between a bad pic and a Metal Gear Solid bad pic, which puts even Lettuce Kefka to shame >_> --- Nominate King Harkinian from Link: The Faces of Evil! Mah boi, this contest is what all true fanboys strive for! |
| ZFS | Posted 8/12/2008 5:17:34 PM | message detail |
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Much like Snake, the only bad picture you can give Big Boss these days
is one from the original Metal Gear - which he happened to get last
year in the third rough argh damn you sprite round --- http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p275/kevinsmells1/Kevin/BigBoss.jpg |
| yoshifan823 | Posted 8/12/2008 5:18:26 PM | message detail |
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Big Boss Gordon Freeman Niko Bellic Midna Freeman over all. --- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Guru winnah Explicit Content, that's quis. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/12/2008 5:18:32 PM | message detail |
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Cid ... > Frog? ive never played FF7 but i guess i can have confident in it somewhat. Tails > Freeman Donkey Kong > Niko Midna > Claire. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/12/2008 5:19:41 PM | message detail |
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oh wait they're fourway screw my post. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/12/2008 5:23:09 PM | message detail |
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Much like Snake, the only bad picture you can give Big Boss these
days is one from the original Metal Gear - which he happened to get
last year in the third rough argh damn you sprite round You sure? His pic against Auron was pretty horrible. --- Nominate King Harkinian from Link: The Faces of Evil! Mah boi, this contest is what all true fanboys strive for! |
| ZFS | Posted 8/12/2008 5:24:01 PM | message detail |
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Big Boss > Cid Highwind - Big Boss is one of the four characters I expect to see solid boosts from thanks to MGS4. But that's not too important in this one. Big Boss had no problems taking care of Magus with no problem - Frog isn't going to be an issue here. The only real question in this match is who comes in first, and I think a combination of another Square character in the match and MGS4 are enough to put Big Boss safely ahead of Cid here. Freeman > ...Tails - No real idea here. Freeman seems like the obvious choice for first, but who knows what happens from there. Tails sounds good. DK > Arthas - DK didn't seem too bad last year considering he was in two matches with other Nintendo characters. It helps that his only competition here is Arthas. Niko could be stronger than expected in a one-on-one setting, but I don't have a lot of faith in GTA characters in this format. Roxas > Midna - Midna was pretty disappointing last year where she was closer to Kratos Aurion than she was Scorpion. I recall Roxas not doing too bad considering he had another KH character in the poll (Riku, I think). I thought about Thrall for second, but...nah. --- http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p275/kevinsmells1/Kevin/BigBoss.jpg |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/12/2008 5:27:14 PM | message detail |
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Big Boss is one of the four characters I expect to see solid boosts from thanks to MGS4. Really? His role in the game was pretty short and relatively unimpressive. I think that even Liquid would get a bigger boost than him. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. Brawl FC: 4253-3155-6697 |
| ZFS | Posted 8/12/2008 5:27:46 PM | message detail |
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You sure? His pic against Auron was pretty horrible. His picture against Auron, as I recall it, was his MGS1 artwork, which he got last year. It's not bad by any means, but it's just art - it's never been in a Metal Gear game before. The problem with it was less to do with the artwork itself and more to do with it not being immediately recognizable. That's changed with MGS4. --- http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p275/kevinsmells1/Kevin/BigBoss.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/12/2008 5:53:57 PM | message detail |
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sooo what's the longest and shortest nomination period we've had for character contests like, ever? --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
