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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 553

yoshifan823 | Posted 8/9/2008 8:33:47 PM | message detail
Not in America, I don't think. It won't be out here for a while, due to massive amounts of text. And it's not terribly common knowledge, at least I don't think it is.
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ZFS | Posted 8/9/2008 8:34:44 PM | message detail
Coming out here the same time as Japan. Europe - poor guys - are the ones who have to wait a while.

It's just a port, after all, not a remake.

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yoshifan823 | Posted 8/9/2008 8:38:28 PM | message detail
They always do. Well, dang. This really kinda sucks. I wanted Crono gone.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/9/2008 9:18:22 PM | message detail
i dont know why everybody has crono's head when mega man is the one who let sora get 46% on him.

if anybody breaks the NN this year it'll definitely be because of that blue bomber. i honestly think vincent would have went toe to toe with him in 2006.
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yoshifan823 | Posted 8/9/2008 9:20:00 PM | message detail
Mega Man 9, my friend, Mega Man 9.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/9/2008 9:21:08 PM | message detail
and i think the boost from the hype of that game (assuming it exists) will be minimum. i'd still take crono over him.
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yoshifan823 | Posted 8/9/2008 9:23:07 PM | message detail
...Assuming it exists? Coverage in Nintendo Power and screenshots on the internet aren't enough for you? And it's expected to come out fairly soon. So, it comes out, people show up, say, "Hey, there's Mega Man, click on him," because they're idiots, and BAM, Mega Man wins.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/9/2008 9:30:13 PM | message detail
hype doesnt always work like that. the only people that really care about MM9 are the fans themselves; the people who already vote for him.

i doubt it attracts a whole new fanbase or anything. will it be any different from the other mega man pointless spin-offs that dont do anything?
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yoshifan823 | Posted 8/9/2008 9:31:32 PM | message detail
A: It's a return to how most people know Mega Man, 8-bit style.

B: It's gonna be way cheap, and available on all three major consoles.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/9/2008 9:44:53 PM | message detail
A: It's a return to how most people know Mega Man, 8-bit style.

Mega Man 2 and Mega Man 3 barely sold a million copies worldwide, and all the ones since then did much worse. MM's popularity came from the huge number of games he had; one more isn't going to do much. And besides, MMX is more popular than MM here anyway, and MMX8 did nothing.

B: It's gonna be way cheap, and available on all three major consoles.

MMAC and MMXC were much better deals and were much better suited to introducing new fans to the series. They still didn't do anything.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/9/2008 9:47:09 PM | message detail
yoshifan823 | Posted 8/9/2008 10:59:45 PM (#336)

Will Crono stay Noble 9?



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The people denying that match remind me of those geniuses thinking 9/11 was an inside job.

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yoshifan823 | Posted 8/9/2008 9:49:05 PM | message detail
To be fair, when MM2 and 3 came out, games weren't the huge thing they are now. Also, while the collections were better suited to introduce new people, they were rare (MMXC) or full price (MMAC). MM9 is gonna be 10 dollars, and people don't have to leave the house to get it. That's alot, especially because MM is the first NN character to have an original game appear on XBLA, PSN, or Wii Shop.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/9/2008 9:50:04 PM | message detail
Does anyone think L-Block might actually have enough strength to beat Crono or Mega Man 1v1? I definitely wouldn't put him above Sonic or maybe even Vincent, but maybe he'll have enough carryover support from last year to match up against them.

Hell, L-Block should be interesting in a 1v1 setting since he's one of the few unknowns who could actually be damn strong. Though his presence in this contest would kinda kill his legacy, he'll still make one interesting character who could have one of the most variable strengths in contest history.
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Electroplankton | Posted 8/9/2008 9:50:04 PM | message detail
The recommendation update just went live, and we're looking at two BioShock characters, Jinjo, Nana, and a guy from Call of Duty.

...Yeah. Woohoo. I'll let you know if I find anybody else.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/9/2008 9:50:15 PM | message detail
The people denying that match remind me of those geniuses thinking 9/11 was an inside job.

It totally was

>_>

<_<

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/9/2008 9:53:57 PM | message detail
I'd say Vincent's as legit a Noble Nine breaker as L-Block.

However you wish to interpret that is your issue.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/9/2008 9:54:13 PM | message detail
depends on how many total votes l-block got... i guess?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/9/2008 9:55:32 PM | message detail
To be fair, when MM2 and 3 came out, games weren't the huge thing they are now. Also, while the collections were better suited to introduce new people, they were rare (MMXC) or full price (MMAC). MM9 is gonna be 10 dollars, and people don't have to leave the house to get it. That's alot, especially because MM is the first NN character to have an original game appear on XBLA, PSN, or Wii Shop.

SMB3's still the best-selling game ever, so I don't get how you can say games weren't huge back then.

Both of the Collections were cheap and easy to find. Not sure what you're saying there.

And since when do XBLA/PSN/Wiiware/VC actually matter? They haven't actually done anything for any character's strength.
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yoshifan823 | Posted 8/9/2008 9:56:25 PM | message detail
L block would get the same percent of the votes he did in FFW as he would in OneonOne. So, no. He'd lose. He's got a fixed percentage, much like CATS. Plus, the novelty of the internet getting involved is over.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/10/2008 12:03:37 AM | message detail
augh i need to see a lot less people using 2007 to try and prove anything concerning a 1v1 setting

Considering those 4 way matches to be a legit showing of anything with all the SFF and LFF and whatnot is like considering a 4 way FFA brawl to be a legit showing of anything with items and stage hazards and whatnot.

just stop it

(yes brawl comparison was necessary go brawfear 2k8)
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yoshifan823 | Posted 8/10/2008 12:07:03 AM | message detail
It shows how well you adapt, and how quickly.

(Spoiler: I agree with you, I just like to argue. Plus FFA>One on one.)
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/10/2008 12:13:46 AM | message detail
For anyone not wanting to wade into the scary jungle of my Top 200 topic (I don't blame you!), here are all the characters so far who are pulling rallies large enough to have caught SB's attention.

Legit Rallies (ranked in order of how soon they reached the magic nom number)
Cloud Strife Final Fantasy VII 184
Weighted Companion Cube Portal 185
Rydia Final Fantasy IV 186
GlaDOS Portal 187
Altair Assassin's Creed 188
Travis Touchdown No More Heroes 189
Lucario Pokemon 190
Rosalina Super Mario Galaxy 191
Diddy Kong Donkey Kong Country 192
Kain Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain 194
Typhlosion Pokemon 195
Heavy Team Fortress 2 196
Spy Team Fortress 2 197
Charizard Pokemon 198
Seifer Almasy Final Fantasy VIII 199
Terry Bogard Fatal Fury 200
Drebin Metal Gear Solid 4 201
Laguna Loire Final Fantasy VIII 202
Gilgamesh Final Fantasy V 203
Sergeant Cortez Timesplitters 204
Presea Combatir Tales of Symphonia 205
Cid Highwind Final Fantasy VII 206
Proto Man Mega Man 3 207
Lucas Mother 3 208
Red VIII Final Fantasy VII 209
The Dog Duck Hunt 210
Soma Cruz Castlevania: Aria Of Sorrow 211
Jim Raynor Starcraft 212
Garchomp Pokemon 213
Missingno Pokemon 214
Pyro Team Fortress 2 215
King Dedede Kirby's Dream Land 216
Sparkster Rocket Knight Adventures 217
Professor Layton Professor Layton and the Curious Village 218
Sho Minamimoto The World Ends With You 219
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Big Daddy Bioshock 220
Andrew Ryan Bioshock 221
Deckard Cain Diablo 222
Nero Devil May Cry 4 223
Jinjo Banjo-Kazooie 224
Captain MacMillan Call of Duty 4 225
Nana Ice Climber 226
Scout Team Fortress 2 227
Gene God Hand 228
Kuja Final Fantasy IX 229
Earthworm Jim Earthworm Jim 230
Dan Hibiki Street Fighter Alpha 231
Cammy Super Street Fighter II 232
Ryo Hazuki Shenmue 233
Ryu Breath of Fire 234
Sackboy LittleBigPlanet 235
Spyro Spyro the Dragon 236

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yoshifan823 | Posted 8/10/2008 12:21:16 AM | message detail
When was the first group added? Because when I nominated yesterday at about 4, The Dog was already in there.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/10/2008 12:27:29 AM | message detail
The first group wasn't added as a group. Some of the earliest stuff (like GlaDOS and Altair) was up within just a few hours of the nom form, while the latest on the list like Layton and Sho weren't put up until well after midnight EST. That's what had us assuming that SB entered them all by hand.

...but then today the new crop all appeared at once, and they might have all come up right at the poll change. If that's the case, there could be a system like you need to reach 50 noms, and once you do you get added to The List once the next day starts.

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yoshifan823 | Posted 8/10/2008 12:41:28 AM | message detail
50 seems like too much for most of these guys. I'm thinking closer to 15.
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voltch | Posted 8/10/2008 1:36:43 AM | message detail
15 seems too small,30 sounds about right.
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greatone10 | Posted 8/10/2008 2:42:22 AM | message detail
I don't know, but you got to figure that since this only applies to characters who weren't in the past two contests that only a few of these new entrants will even make the bracket to begin with, given how many noms are going to repeat and veteran contestants. It wouldn't surprise me if none of the characters from this newest batch will even make the contest.
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consolefreak | Posted 8/10/2008 3:25:30 AM | message detail
Can anyone tell me where I can find brackets for the past contests with the votes for the matches listed on the same page? Creativename used to do it but now he doesn't list the votes anymore.
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_Yonex_ | Posted 8/10/2008 3:30:18 AM | message detail
Where is Brock!? This is ludicrous. I swear he's got atleast 30 votes already.
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jonthomson | Posted 8/10/2008 7:42:30 AM | message detail
Chrono Trigger DS won't do much for Crono if it's just announced, and not even in the States. Who exactly would suddenly switch to Crono in a match that is potentially close because of it? Now, if it was actually released (or, alternatively, it was out on the VC), that'd be different
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/10/2008 7:54:27 AM | message detail
But Chrono Trigger DS IS announced for a holiday release. It's coming, but too late to really mean anything.

The only guys who have a shot at breaking the Noble Nine are Vincent and Squall, and that's only if they go up against Crono.

And L-block won't be doing anything this year. It has less to do with the 1v1 setting than it does that the joke is old now. It's been done, there's no reason to do it again. All the people nominating him and pulling for him don't understand that jokes are only funny for a while.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 8/10/2008 7:58:34 AM | message detail
I know Rydia, at least, was on the list within 30 minutes after the topic was created. I doubt that was a result of a lot of nominations, it was probably just SB adding it a bit later as a second thought(he added Kain and maybe decided later to add Rydia too)
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/10/2008 8:29:50 AM | message detail
Yeah, MM9's not big enough to save MM, and CTDS isn't coming out soon enough to save Crono. I'd take Vincent over either of them. When's Dissidia coming out, btw?

And CATS peaked in 2005, long after the joke was "old". I don't think L-Block's going to suffer too badly from aging.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/10/2008 9:08:22 AM | message detail
If the Nana rally is truthful, it takes 30-50 nominations to get on the list.

We currently have 131805 total nominations.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/10/2008 9:18:39 AM | message detail
Mega Man doesn't NEED MM9 to save him from Squincent. Or did you miss the part in 2005 where Sonic comfortably put Vincent away before getting the same numbers on Snake that the Blue Bomber did? I even hesitate to put Squincent over Crono in a 1 on 1 setting. You have to look at the fact that that match was basically Vincent vs 3 SNES characters. It explains why Crono lost, and why Zero did so poorly compared to the round before.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/10/2008 9:49:00 AM | message detail
58% on Ryu.

54% on Sora.


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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/10/2008 9:52:42 AM | message detail
After Ryu's tear last year, and the fact that Sora was hot off of Kingdom Hearts 2, it doesn't really surprise me. 2k5 was a fluke year for Ryu
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voltch | Posted 8/10/2008 10:21:33 AM | message detail
one on one,would anyone take sprite snake above another nobleniner?

I think crono,sonic,MM would beat him if they meet on that round and if it's written Snake instead of solid snake then I can't see him doing squat.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2008 10:43:47 AM | message detail
The people denying that match remind me of those geniuses thinking 9/11 was an inside job.

People who think fourway matches mean anything remind me of those...people who think crazy things matter!

Darn my inability to make analogies.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/10/2008 10:46:08 AM | message detail
Just go with my Brawl analogy Leon.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/10/2008 10:49:27 AM | message detail
Mega Man so-called drop in 2k5 was exaggerated, but he did drop a little. He certainly isn't beating Sonic, and maybe not Vincent.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2008 10:50:36 AM | message detail
Mega Man dropped in '06, not '05. Same with when Sonic beat Vincent.

Something about the '06 stats still concerns me (as in, a lot of things about it don't make a lot of sense, and I'm not just talking about the female bracket), but I'm not sure where it starts.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/10/2008 10:51:51 AM | message detail
Eh, whichever year people were saying that MM dropped. All of the opponents he did poorly against went on to kick ass in 2k7.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2008 10:53:15 AM | message detail
Maybe so, but he still didn't put up Noble Nine caliber numbers against any of them except Ryu. The match with Ryu didn't bother me at all, except for the fact that Mega Man lost several updates against him, if I recall correctly.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/10/2008 10:55:22 AM | message detail
....Heh. I just checked lol x-stats, and 2k6 Sora vs. 2k5 Sora is about the same percentage at 2k6 Riku vs. 2k5 Riku.

......that's kinda amusing.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/10/2008 11:43:49 AM | message detail
Something about the '06 stats still concerns me (as in, a lot of things about it don't make a lot of sense, and I'm not just talking about the female bracket), but I'm not sure where it starts.

I'll tell you something to make the male half make sense. Sonic SFF'd Luigi like Mario/Pac-Man. He, Mega Man and Crono were all roughly equal in 2006, with Crono maybe being a notch lower.

Sora and Riku looked great because they had KH2 only a few months before the contest. The only oddity this leaves is the whole Snake/Yoshi thing, but if you believe in a constant Mega Man/Sonic, 2006 stats make sense on the male half.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2008 12:51:41 PM | message detail
I'll tell you something to make the male half make sense. Sonic SFF'd Luigi like Mario/Pac-Man.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense except for the fact that the match went almost exactly like the 2005 stats predicted.

Plus, that doesn't solve squat. Doesn't explain why Ganondorf and Sora are practically equal or why Sora is slightly above Auron or, why Bowser and Ryu are practically equal. I know Snake/Yoshi is a little bonkers because I ain't takin' Yoshi or Dante to go 50/50 with Squall and Vincent, nor do I think Riku could beat Bowser.

Kinda strange how the anomalies involve characters that faced Mega Man!
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transience | Posted 8/10/2008 12:53:48 PM | message detail
I see we're all in regular season form in here.

time to toss "SFF" around a few dozen more times to hit the quota
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/10/2008 12:58:51 PM | message detail
Also, I've got to wonder if anyone would take Yoshi over Bowser now. He's looked better than the Koopa King for two straight contests now.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2008 1:05:56 PM | message detail
I think Yoshi/Dante/Riku can be best explained by saying Solid has his sprite against Yoshi's sprite. Throw in the theory that an established Nintendo character could sap Solid's SSBB-hype, and I think that's plenty enough reason to say they're over-rated in 2006.

Then again though, all three of them did well enough last year -- Yoshi put Knuckles to rest and didn't embarrass himself against Mega Man again (even for Samus being in the poll too), Dante made it to the semi-finals (through some fortunate circumstances.....), and Riku beat Hayabusa when Roxas was out of the picture (however you want to explain that's another story though!) as well as falling a little short of Kratos post-GoW2...

...you can probably justify minimally touching that four-pack, but I think it's more than reasonable to believe it got over-rated decently enough where your fears of Yoshi = Squall in 2006 and such just isn't true.
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