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| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 7:52:04 AM | message detail |
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The main goal...? Is Yuna-n-friends rescuing him Princess-style, or is it something different? It's sorta like that, but it's difficult to explain without big spoilers. Either way, Tidus is a constant focus of the game, though you don't see him for most of it. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/11/2008 8:11:14 AM | message detail |
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you know, as said as this sounds, i'd honestly have a hard time taking Raiden over Pac-man. remember Ocelot vs Pac-Man? Ocelot was the villain in two major MGS games: MGS and MGS3. that wasnt even enough to equal Pac-man. Raiden is in a game less popular than MGS2 and MGS4 which could be arguably bigger than MGS3 but it is on the PS3 after all which kinda affects some widespread popularity.. so if Raiden does beat Pac-man, it honestly wouldn't be a blowout, would it? --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/11/2008 8:11:59 AM | message detail |
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er, a game less popular than MGS* --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 8:19:31 AM | message detail |
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I think Raiden could beat Pac-Man NOW after MGS4, but maybe he would've
had a hard time with it before. I mean, he barely beat Sam Fisher, for
cryin' out loud! --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/11/2008 8:33:03 AM | message detail |
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i dont think Raiden is stronger than Ocelot before MGS4, but after MGS4, how much more popular could it really make him? though Raiden hate would die down but his popularity in comparison to Ocelot's is probably still real close. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 8:39:03 AM | message detail |
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Oh, there's no doubt Ocelot beats Pac-Man now. Not worried about that in the least. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| Billy Blaze | Posted 8/11/2008 10:42:50 AM | message detail |
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Bah, don't underestimate Pac-Man so quickly! Well, he probably wouldn't win again, but his win last time wasn't that surprising. --- Redtooth |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/11/2008 10:43:44 AM | message detail |
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Braid is actually a pretty cool game from the demo I played --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 11:53:54 AM | message detail |
| It wasn't that surprising because we had seen that
Ocelot wasn't all that in the Villains Contest. If not for that,
Pac-Man's win probably would've been a shocker. Most people still
picked Ocelot anyway. But Ocelot can easily erase that deficit now that he has MGS4. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| Lopen | Posted 8/11/2008 11:56:55 AM | message detail |
| Raiden probably beats Pac-Man with a fair amount
of ease now. Before MGS4, my money would be on him edging him out a
little basing things on last year (in toaster form... with a decent
picture I think he has some breathing room). And I know this board loves to make fun of him, but Fisher isn't a total joke... he could probably take Pac Man too with some luck, although I'd probably take Pac Man if I came across that in a bracket. And dammit yes calling MC as a NN breaker is impressive. Because that's almost certainly what he would've done if Sonic made it instead of L-Block, looking at the matches. People will deny it, of course. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 12:00:02 PM | message detail |
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Fisher's not a total joke. He's high end fodder, but still fodder. When
DK nearly doubles you, you're in trouble. I mean, Vyse and Bub did
better on DK, for cryin' out loud. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/11/2008 12:00:48 PM | message detail |
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Raiden hype train coming through choo choo. --- Gilgamesh (Final Fantasy V) is awesome. Nominate him for Character Battle 7! http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/12rw-gilgamesh-a.jpg |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/11/2008 12:01:04 PM | message detail |
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Fisher is TOTALLY a joke. No use in tryin to stick up for him. --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/11/2008 12:02:35 PM | message detail |
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Also. I was the only regular here who had him advancing in the semis (which would've happened had it not been for L-Block...!) Hello there. --- Gilgamesh (Final Fantasy V) is awesome. Nominate him for Character Battle 7! http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/12rw-gilgamesh-a.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 8/11/2008 12:08:05 PM | message detail |
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Kleenex, really? Awesome, man. And I'd say that was a bad year for Fisher if anything, that match with DK. Or maybe he's just on the decline. Another year of seeing him will lay this issue to re-- Fisher's not coming back ha ha ha. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/11/2008 12:09:16 PM | message detail |
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Fisher doesn't deserve to come back. I know yall probably would dismiss
this as crazy Hiko fanboy-esque talk, but damnit, I think Tron Bonne
could pretty much kick his ass. --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/11/2008 12:14:52 PM | message detail |
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Phoenix Wright vs GlaDOS, who ya got? --- SSBB FC: 4425-1156-3590 NOMINATE KNUCKLES THE ECHIDNA! |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/11/2008 12:15:47 PM | message detail |
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You know what....I'll say GlaDOS actually. --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/11/2008 12:15:48 PM | message detail |
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Phoenix Wright. there's no way i think GlaDOS is even that far away
from Cortana. we all know Halo's bigger than Portal but it seems GlaDOS
has a bigger role. but honestly even that isnt enough to cut it. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 12:17:53 PM | message detail |
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I don't have any confidence in GlaDOS doing squat. I'd take Nick to win that one easily. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/11/2008 12:18:33 PM | message detail |
| Phoenix Wright. GlaDOS' best time by far should be
the board vote, and we both know how well Magus, probably the board
vote's #2, stood up to Phoenix. --- Nominate King Harkinian from Link: The Faces of Evil! Mah boi, this contest is what all true fanboys strive for! |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/11/2008 12:28:22 PM | message detail |
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Not that I'm mourning this, but why is no one nominating ?block? http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2926 I'm also glad that people are optimistic about Squall beating Vincent. I wish I were that optimistic. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2918 That match, for me, was considerably more impressive than anything Vincent's ever done. The way he held up to Sonic with Sora there? A lot more impressive than beating Crono in a setting that, if anything, was mildly in Vincent's favour (and I'm not talking about the 4-way matches, rather than the slightly closer relation link and Zero have with Crono than they do with Vincent). With how close they were in 2k5, and Kingdom Hearts 2 having been released since then, I don't really see how you would scare away from picking Squall in a rematch. To be honest, in fact, I personally think Squall should be considered the favourite, by all accounts. The people denying that match remind me of those geniuses thinking 9/11 was an inside job. Not that I'm really literate concerning 9/11, that I want to go in a discussion about it or that I myself am an adherent to conspiracy theories, but there is one extremely interesting piece of evidence in my opinion, namely the sharp increase (an increase that in no way can be attributed to daily buoying) in the purchasing of stock and futures related to an American defense company, the very day before 9/11. What matches would you all hate to see, just because they are so extremely hard to predict? Well the hard matches are my favourites. Anyway, I think Snake - Samus and Snake - Sephiroth could be very, very good. --- Nominate Red XIII for Character Battle VII! http://uk.geocities.com/blissful_absolution/assignment4/images/redxiiiimage.jpg |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/11/2008 12:30:50 PM | message detail |
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To clarify, this was an increase by American buyers. And concerning Vincent-Squall, I realise he's had Dirge of Cerberus since then, but it looks to me like it really can't hold up against Kingdom Hearts 2. --- Nominate Red XIII for Character Battle VII! http://uk.geocities.com/blissful_absolution/assignment4/images/redxiiiimage.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 12:32:10 PM | message detail |
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I think at the very least that Dirge of Cerberus would be enough to stalemate Squall. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/11/2008 12:33:06 PM | message detail |
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I honestly think Vincent would win his rematch with Squall and have an even bigger lead than last time --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/11/2008 12:33:28 PM | message detail |
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that block poll is interesting. companion cube got 19-20%? is there a hardcore fanbase out there that would vote anything Portal? though it's a stretch to say anybody that votes for the cube would also vote for GlaDOS. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 12:35:57 PM | message detail |
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I think the picture and the fact that the name was "Weighted Companion Cube" got it lots of votes. I almost voted for the thing. Oh, and the fact that it was a purely joke poll probably helped. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/11/2008 12:38:38 PM | message detail |
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I think at the very least that Dirge of Cerberus would be enough to stalemate Squall. I would think so as well, beforehand. But seriously, judging from last year (and in my opinion 2k6 as well, but I know how you all feel about MGS-FF SFF) Squall just benefited more from KHII than Vincent did from DoC. He nearly beat Sonic, who was already stronger than Crono back in 2006, with freaking Sora in the poll. I mean come on, you think Sora didn't have any effect on Squall's performance? Because even as it stands, losing to Sonic by such a small margin is almost as impressive as winning from Crono by such a small margin. --- Nominate Red XIII for Character Battle VII! http://uk.geocities.com/blissful_absolution/assignment4/images/redxiiiimage.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/11/2008 12:40:34 PM | message detail |
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don't forget that Sonic characters as a whole really sucked in four ways. --- *is Dranze* Explicit Contest is my lord. |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/11/2008 12:41:03 PM | message detail |
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Chrono Trigger characters sucked as much, if not more, than Sonic characters last year. >_> --- Nominate King Harkinian from Link: The Faces of Evil! Mah boi, this contest is what all true fanboys strive for! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 12:41:35 PM | message detail |
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I believe in FF/MGS SFF (FFVII/MGS, Liquid/Sephiroth, maybe even
Yuna/Liquid), but I'm not sure about it in Snake/Squall. I'd like to
believe it because it makes Squall look better, but I'm just being
cautious. I mean come on, you think Sora didn't have any effect on Squall's performance? Didn't seem like it. Squall did almost exactly the same on Sonic with Sora and without Sora. I was impressed that Squall nearly beat Sonic post-Brawl announcement. Makes me wonder if he would've won had it not been for that. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/11/2008 12:43:01 PM | message detail |
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Chrono Trigger characters sucked as much, if not more, than Sonic characters last year. >_> Which is a god damn disgrace --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| consolefreak | Posted 8/11/2008 12:48:10 PM | message detail |
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Didn't seem like it. Squall did almost exactly the same on Sonic
with Sora and without Sora. I was impressed that Squall nearly beat
Sonic post-Brawl announcement. Makes me wonder if he would've won had
it not been for that. I was just about to say that his performance with Sora on Sonic is pretty much a moot point if you don't believe in MGS-FF SFF, because of that poll you now mention. Perhaps this should be treated as another piece of MGS-FF SFF evidence? I mean, are we seriously going to question FF-KH SFF? --- Nominate Red XIII for Character Battle VII! http://uk.geocities.com/blissful_absolution/assignment4/images/redxiiiimage.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 12:51:40 PM | message detail |
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I'm not really sure what to think of it. I suppose you make a good
point with the possibility that Snake messed up Squall after Sora left.
I did think it was kinda weird that Sora and Squall had absolutely no
effect on each other, considering Leon is the most important KH
character. Hmmm... --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| yoshifan823 | Posted 8/11/2008 12:57:59 PM | message detail |
| Something about MGS-FF SFF seems off to me. I'd
agree that they have some fanbase overlap, but not to the extent that
KH-FF has. It could just be the L-Block making things screwy, though. I
would hesitate to trust any matches with L-Block in them. --- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Guru winnah Explicit Content, that's quis. |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/11/2008 12:59:25 PM | message detail |
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Clearly the Tetris piece held back Squall. I mean, look at Squall! He has an I-Block going across his face! --- Nominate King Harkinian from Link: The Faces of Evil! Mah boi, this contest is what all true fanboys strive for! |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/11/2008 12:59:55 PM | message detail |
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I would hesitate to trust any matches with L-Block in them. Understatement of the year. --- SSBB FC: 4425-1156-3590 NOMINATE KNUCKLES THE ECHIDNA! |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/11/2008 1:00:38 PM | message detail |
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Also, I guarantee you all that Laharl would beat Nathan Hale! Suck it, L-Block match doubters! --- Nominate King Harkinian from Link: The Faces of Evil! Mah boi, this contest is what all true fanboys strive for! |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/11/2008 1:03:31 PM | message detail |
| Something about the FF/MGS overlap has always felt wrong to me. I'm not sure how many results even support this theory, but common sense certainly doesn't. They're two completely different genres who share nothing more than a common system. Now, that may be a good enough cause for SFF when dealing with Nintendo (where the fanbase is smaller and has less to choose from), but Playstation? The system had a zillion games and one hundred million gamers - overlap should be far less common. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 1:06:05 PM | message detail |
| Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid are two very
popular Playstation-exclusive (for the most part) franchises, and
they're liked for pretty much the same reasons (great story and great
characters). Fanbase overlap isn't ENTIRELY out of the question. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| yoshifan823 | Posted 8/11/2008 1:09:22 PM | message detail |
| But on the level of KH/FF? It seems to me that two
series that share characters would have more of an overlap than two
series that share a console. --- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Guru winnah Explicit Content, that's quis. |
| Lopen | Posted 8/11/2008 1:09:38 PM | message detail |
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Nah. FFVII was the game to have for the PS1. MGS was also the
game to have for the PS1. The fanbases overlap simply because both
games are must haves for the PS1, and it makes sense to me. However I think as both series branch out to other consoles, the overlap threat diminishes. I don't think that Snake adversely affected Squall last year as much as he did in 2002, for instance. It might be kinda negligible right now. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 |
| dethfdddddh | Posted 8/11/2008 1:14:00 PM | message detail |
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If DMC/RE overlap can exist I'm pretty most forms of overlap are plausible >_>; --- Explicit Content left me uncontent in the guru contest. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 1:14:23 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, it's one of those things that's difficult to say, but most FF/MGS
matches have had something odd about them. Even Snake/Sora was an
obvious overperformance, for what it's worth. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/11/2008 1:15:50 PM | message detail |
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The picture was probably what affected that so much --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 1:16:56 PM | message detail |
| I suppose, but it shouldn't have caused Snake to
overperform by 10%+, I think. That'd be like the biggest picture
over/underperformance ever. Well, other than maybe Snake/Frog, but we won't touch that one. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
| Lopen | Posted 8/11/2008 1:18:34 PM | message detail |
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That'd be like the biggest picture over/underperformance ever. Raiden 2k7 imhhhho. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 |
| yoshifan823 | Posted 8/11/2008 1:18:41 PM | message detail |
| Wait, what's so strange about DMC/RE overlap? Two
games, made by the same company, for the same consoles generally, with
quite a bit of similarities, generally demons or zombies. That's like
saying Mario/Zelda overlap is weird. --- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Guru winnah Explicit Content, that's quis. |
| Lopen | Posted 8/11/2008 1:20:58 PM | message detail |
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But DMC and RE aren't at all the same style of game, gameplaywise,
which I think is the most important thing. To this day the idea baffles
me... and honestly I'd need to see it again to fully believe it. --- Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 Prisoner number 4983-4750-0321 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 8/11/2008 1:21:07 PM | message detail |
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Most people didn't think Capcom overlap was that big of a deal, honestly. --- CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Big Boss, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, von Karma |
