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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 553

UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/8/2008 6:08:01 PM | message detail
Bah, I was hoping for a games contest. Looks like another gimmick four-way character battle -_-

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms, Percentages For Dummies, and Odd Matches*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/8/2008 6:08:41 PM | message detail
It's totally not gonna be gimmicky! And a Game Contest is coming!
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Heroic Dr Wily | Posted 8/8/2008 6:09:01 PM | message detail
OYAJIIIII!!!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2008 6:09:09 PM | message detail
Dibs on #1000.
LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 6:09:52 PM | message detail
Yeah, Bacon practically guaranteed a Games Contest early next year, so that's something.
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CBVII Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Locke, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, Sub-Zero
LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 7:02:06 PM | message detail
Whoo! Go Diddy Kong! Get in!
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CBVII Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Locke, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, Sub-Zero
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/8/2008 7:03:36 PM | message detail
From last topic:

That's what I'm saying. Give it a few years. Keep it fresh. You see why people are craving a Games Contest and not a Character Battle. Because it hasn't been done every year.

Definitely agree. Though I think people are gonna be disappointed with the Games Contest once it starts back up.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 8/8/2008 7:03:49 PM | message detail
uhhhh

since when has a four-way contest been announced
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/8/2008 7:04:15 PM | message detail
man i honestly hope it isnt fourway. i've been begging for a 1 on 1 for so long.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/8/2008 7:04:25 PM | message detail
I don't understand why everyone's assuming the 4 way format. SB didn't hint at that, and the only info we're going on is that there are 15 nominations to be cast. Well, we had 14 to use in 2006, and that was still a 64 person bracket.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 7:04:32 PM | message detail
Neither format has been announced. Just people are curious if it'll be another one since we got 15 nominations again.
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CBVII Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Locke, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, Sub-Zero
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/8/2008 7:04:50 PM | message detail
Clarification: Not because of the field or the bracket, but because it'll be too predictable and likely won't feature anything huge like Starcraft or L-Block-level runs. I don't think it'll be as amazing as everyone expects it to be.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 7:05:04 PM | message detail
Also, apparently people are against the one-on-one format.
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CBVII Nominations: Squall Leonhart, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Locke, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, Sub-Zero
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/8/2008 7:06:21 PM | message detail
also, what happens to Link and possibly Cloud, Sephiroth, and Samus?
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GhostOfAChance | Posted 8/8/2008 7:07:11 PM | message detail
I don't buy it being a 4 way, either. SB seems very inclined to do things his way, and not care about the expectation. I doubt it's going to be a 4 way, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was some other gimmick SB found amusing.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 8/8/2008 7:07:35 PM | message detail
My nominations:

L-Block Tetris
Altair Assassin's Creed
Dan Hibiki Street Fighter Alpha
Arthas Menethil Warcraft III
Mewtwo Pokemon
Ken Street Fighter
Pikachu Pokemon
Kratos God of War
Bidoof Pokemon

I am all for anything that makes this contest exciting. =)
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 7:07:51 PM | message detail
I just hope he doesn't find tag teams amusing.
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CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Locke, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, Manfred von Karma
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/8/2008 7:08:33 PM | message detail
tag teams?

.. well, we're screwed now.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 8/8/2008 7:08:45 PM | message detail
I'm pretty sure it's just Ulti being Ulti.

But I'm starting to hope it *is* a four-way contest just because of the people complaining about it when it hasn't even been hinted at yet.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 8/8/2008 7:08:45 PM | message detail
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/8/2008 7:09:22 PM | message detail
I am all for anything that makes this contest exciting. =)

Don't mean to beat a dead horse, but Revan is a cool looking Star Wars main character with Darth in his name.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/8/2008 7:09:22 PM | message detail
I'm still holding out hope that it's gonna be a surprise Female Villains Contest!
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Ed Bellis | Posted 8/8/2008 7:09:27 PM | message detail
I wouldn't mind tag-teams. Hell, I wouldn't mind three-way tag-teams! I'm just glad we have a contest.

...though I kind of miss the offseason already. >_>
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 7:10:42 PM | message detail
The only thing I'd want to see in a tag team format is a Cloud/Link team just to see how badly they'd destroy everyone.
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CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Locke, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, Manfred von Karma
M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/8/2008 7:10:52 PM | message detail
But I'm starting to hope it *is* a four-way contest just because of the people complaining about it when it hasn't even been hinted at yet.

Not really a big fan of another fourway so soon but damn would it be worth it for the outcry in the stats topics.

I'd get a good laugh, at least.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/8/2008 7:10:56 PM | message detail
Well I guess the other thing pointing against a traditional setup is that he didn't say not to nom Link/Cloud/etc. Still, that's not alot to go on.

About Arthas... after his match last year where he outdid Diablo and was in contention despite the fanbase split everyone was crazy about him, and agreed we "had to get him back next year." And yet I've hardly seen anyone actually nomming him. Just a little strange.

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/8/2008 7:12:28 PM | message detail
He doesn't seem the most memorable guy. I certainly forgot Arthas existed.

A nomination rally might remedy that, though. I might entertain nominating him if the support's there.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 7:13:26 PM | message detail
I've got better people to nominate than Arthas!
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CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Locke, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, Manfred von Karma
Lady Ashe | Posted 8/8/2008 7:14:48 PM | message detail
"Manfred von Karma"

Yep. Definitely better than Arthas right there.
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ZFS | Posted 8/8/2008 7:15:41 PM | message detail
Needs more Big Boss nominations !

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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 7:17:34 PM | message detail
That was a trade nomination, actually.
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CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Locke, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, Manfred von Karma
Master Moltar | Posted 8/8/2008 7:18:46 PM | message detail
Darth Big Boss
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 7:19:27 PM | message detail
Darth Squall.

Yeah, I'm feelin' it.
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CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Locke, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, Manfred von Karma
yoshifan823 | Posted 8/8/2008 7:21:02 PM | message detail
Despite the long time since a traditional, one on one, no gimmicks battle, I want another 4 way. Those are more fun to predict, watch, and, IMO, just more fun. However, I'd like it if there were no L-Block level nominations. However, seeing as we're starting this in September at the earliest, and that early next year is when the next game battle is going to take place, it's probably going to be a one on one. I'm just gonna pray for no gimmicks then.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/8/2008 7:34:34 PM | message detail
you know, now that i think about it, i dont think we'll have a 4-way again... especially if he isn't telling us NOT to nominate L-Block or Link or whoever.

however chances of it being 1vs1 are nearly just as bad. i have a feeling it's a gimmick we never heard of.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/8/2008 8:20:49 PM | message detail
You think we'll see a FF4 character sneak in considering SBAllen's love for the game? He put a ton of work on FAQs and such for FF4DS and even said it was his favorite game in one of his SBallin' posts. I hope if he does, he sneaks in Rydia over Cecil, as Rydia has the potential to be stronger and is untested as opposed to Cecil.

Granted, any FF4 character isn't going to do much damage even with FF4DS, but I definitely wouldn't mind Cecil or Rydia making appearances.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/8/2008 8:29:12 PM | message detail
All of your noms need more Darth Revan
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/8/2008 8:31:15 PM | message detail
Mine don't.

Of all the nomination rallies I've seen so far, I like the Revan one the most so far. He may just have what it takes to get in and kick a little ass. At least, that's what I hope, rather than him making it and bombing like HK-47.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/8/2008 8:50:11 PM | message detail
Early leaders according to total B8 noms:

GlaDOS - 13
Altair - 12
Ike - 12
Phoenix Wright - 12
L-Block - 10
Captain Falcon - 9
Charizard - 9
Diddy Kong - 9
Neku Sakuraba - 9
Dan Hibiki - 8
Gina Vasquez - 8
Travis Touchdown - 8
Agent J - 7
Brock - 7
CATS - 7
Sho Minamimoto - 7
Revolver Ocelot - 6

Thoughts?

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ZFS | Posted 8/8/2008 8:50:54 PM | message detail
damn you board 8

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/8/2008 8:51:42 PM | message detail
My thoughts are needs more Tron Bonne. Just for my sake.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/8/2008 8:51:53 PM | message detail
jokes, guru pick and Nintendo. sounds like board 8 nominations!

not that I can talk, with Tim taking over my signature.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 8:56:01 PM | message detail
Neku and Diddy...I can get behind that!
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CBVII Nominations: Squall, Tidus, Seifer, Diddy, Akuma, Roxas, Ocelot, Locke, Phoenix Wright, Gray Fox, Neku, Laguna, Protoman, Ken Masters, Manfred von Karma
KamikazePotato | Posted 8/8/2008 8:57:13 PM | message detail
That's actually a pretty good list! Ike, GlaDOS, Charizard, Phoenix Wright, Captain Falcon...

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Lady Ashe | Posted 8/8/2008 8:57:35 PM | message detail

ZFS (#040)
damn you board 8



trannyscience (#042)
jokes, guru pick and Nintendo. sounds like board 8 nominations!

not that I can talk, with Tim taking over my signature.



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Yesmar | Posted 8/8/2008 9:04:12 PM | message detail
I think if Bacon DOES do a 4-way again he's doing it for the wrong reasons. Last year was considered a great contest, by the casuals at least, but I think that was due to two reasons:

A. L-Block
B. We got to see a lot of new and returning characters who we had never seen in action before.

I don't think anything about 4 ways makes them intrinsically more exciting and neither of the above two situations are likely to repeat themselves.

And I think we should be worrying about Tag Teams instead. That would be a far far worse gimmick.
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Yesmar | Posted 8/8/2008 9:05:24 PM | message detail
jokes, guru pick and Nintendo. sounds like board 8 nominations!

I would say less Nintendo and more Smash Brothers, personally.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/8/2008 9:06:50 PM | message detail
I doubt Bacon would do tag-teams when no one wants it.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/8/2008 9:09:13 PM | message detail
who wanted 4 way exactly?
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 8/8/2008 9:27:34 PM | message detail
Me!
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