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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 552

LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 10:39:40 PM | message detail
RPGs still wins that poll, and I wouldn't be surprised if it still pulls in 50%+.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/5/2008 9:27:35 AM | message detail
Agreed and agreed, but still, a 12% drop would signal a pretty significant voter shift IMO.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/5/2008 9:46:57 AM | message detail
hmm.. today's poll is interesting. i always thought most of the people here were just 'i dont care'.

oh, and i'm finally an icon! yay! ... well i would have been before, anyway..
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voltch | Posted 8/6/2008 3:43:12 AM | message detail
we want the damn bracket!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/6/2008 3:30:45 PM | message detail
Uhhh...Since we didn't get a final poll on the VC thing...

Rank these according to strength!

Majora's Mask
Super Smash Brothers
Metroid Prime
Final Fantasy Tactics
Metal Gear Solid 3
Kingdom Hearts
Mario Kart 64
Super Metroid
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/6/2008 4:27:00 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy Tactics
Super Metroid
Metal Gear Solid 3
Kingdom Hearts
Metroid Prime
Mario Kart 64
Super Smash Bros.
Majora's Mask

the last 5 are like real crapshoots.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/6/2008 4:28:19 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44722514

Leon even stole the games I was gonna do!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/6/2008 7:22:40 PM | message detail
Well, I think you should've put Metroid Prime and Super Metroid together like you did for Mario 64 and SMW to see what people think. Also, yours could've used more Smash Bros.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/6/2008 7:24:29 PM | message detail
too much Nintendo for me! I tried to mix it up a little.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/6/2008 7:25:17 PM | message detail
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/6/2008 7:25:57 PM | message detail
Kingdom Hearts
Mario Kart 64
Final Fantasy Tactics
Metal Gear Solid 3
Super Metroid
Metroid Prime
Majora's Mask
Super Smash Bros

First post had original list as well, deleted it to remove confusion.
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_Yonex_ | Posted 8/7/2008 11:18:34 AM | message detail
Kingdom Hearts
Final Fantasy Tactics
Majora's Mask
Metal Gear Solid 3
Super Smash Bros.
Super Metroid
Mario Kart 64
Metroid Prime

Agree or Disagree?

If the contest is announced it will be a huge disappointment.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/7/2008 11:32:36 AM | message detail
i honestly have no clue. i dont know what to expect.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2008 1:10:54 PM | message detail
Honestly, the only way the Games Contest would be disappointing is if Bacon gives us the EXACT same bracket again. Or if he decides to maintain the divisions by era and nominations by system format.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/7/2008 4:24:07 PM | message detail
what if he completely throws out the old format? wouldnt we see more recent games?
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/7/2008 4:56:55 PM | message detail
I think with a completely open ended nom system more recent games would take control of the bracket, yes. In fact, let's take a look here... with a fully open system, if noms opened tomorrow, these are the only repeats I'd expect to see make the cut

8-bit
Mario 3
Tetris

16-bit (lol censor bypass)
Chrono Trigger
FF6
Super Metroid
Super Mario World
Link to the Past
Earthbound
Mario RPG
Street Fighter II


I have a hard time seeing Zelda 1 make it through the surge of people nomming Ocarina, LttP, TP, MM, and a few WWs here and there for good measure. Metroid 1 will surely be out in favor of Prime and Super, FF1 seems doubtful in the face of 7/6/X/8/T, and I doubt something like Duck Hunt could make it back without a successful rally.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/7/2008 5:01:37 PM | message detail
I think Mario 1's got a solid chance. 16 bit looks about right. What I'd like to see is a soft quota (say, 24 games/era) but straight seeding, so we still end up with 8/16/32 bit fodder. If you're going to watch FFVII stomp something, it might as well be Galaga, and something like LoZ or FF would be a killer 12-14 seed against an overseeded new game.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/7/2008 7:21:38 PM | message detail
I still say there should be one bracket contest per year, alternating between games and characters with no gimmicks. It would never get old, and if CNET would ever pull their heads out of their asses on the legality issue and allow a couple of users to help run it, it would always be run fairly and on time.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/7/2008 7:25:06 PM | message detail
That's the best idea I've heard in awhile.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/7/2008 7:28:15 PM | message detail
ideally i'd like both contests.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/7/2008 8:37:55 PM | message detail
And we should expand the field to 128!
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Yesmar | Posted 8/7/2008 9:15:49 PM | message detail
Ngamer's list is probably about right, although like someone said SMB1 has a decent shot at getting in and I think that Mega Man 2 is probably a shoo in as well.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Pac-Man or Pong slip in as a lower seed and I would actually find a Pac-Man Vs. Donkey Kong match to be a fairly interesting matchup.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/7/2008 9:56:41 PM | message detail
Keep in mind my list was only the repeats from '04. I'd agree that Mario 1 and MM2 and possibly Sonic 3/Knux will have good shots of getting in as well, but remember that all of those would be new to the Contest.

Regarding Ulti's suggestion... oh shoot, lost the post I was going to quote. I'll dig that up in a bit.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/7/2008 11:01:06 PM | message detail
Okay, here it is. Yes, I agree with Ulti about Contests needing some time off aka to be rotated to keep things fresh. So with that in mind, here's the schedule of upcoming Contests that I drew up a while back. As soon as you elect me Contest Administrator, I'll get right to work on setting this plan into motion.

The Ng Proposal

Spring/Summer 2008: The Great Game Contest (64 games, 1v1s, etc)
Summer/Fall 2008: catch our breath (a little time off would do the Character Contest good, IMO)
Fall/Winter 2008: a silly mini-Contest (just to break up the offseason a little; maybe use the old Quote Contest nominations to slap together a bracket)

January 2009: Game of the Year Contest (a 16 game bracket to decide the GotY)
Spring 2009: Greatest Console Ever Contest (16 system mini tournament; next year seems like the best time for it, as the 360, Wii, and PS3 will all be in the prime of their lives)
Summer 2009: Character Battle VII (full 64 character no gimmick 1v1 tournament- should still be plenty exciting since it will have been nearly two years since we saw characters in action)

January 2010: Game of the Year Contest (this 16 game tourney would be run to decide the GotY every year)
Summer 2010: 128 Game Contest (oh my!)

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voltch | Posted 8/8/2008 1:43:32 AM | message detail
Since normally spring contests featured something different than character battles what else could be used apart from quotes/consoles that would be new?
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Xeybozn | Posted 8/8/2008 1:30:58 PM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/8/2008 1:48:03 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44760287

CONTEST

CONTEEEEEEEEST

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Who Cares? | Posted 8/8/2008 1:50:41 PM | message detail
Nominating 15 characters again I see...return to a normal contest or Fatal 4 ways again perhaps?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 1:52:06 PM | message detail
Yeah, I see it's 15 again. Hopefully that'll just be the standard no matter what the format, or it'll be 128 characters to reward our suffering!

And he basically guaranteed a Games Contest early next year!
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Lopen | Posted 8/8/2008 1:53:10 PM | message detail
Oh gawd oh gawd contest.

I'm SO back in this topic, man.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/8/2008 1:53:39 PM | message detail
Allen's "hint" scares me, mentioning My Games for the Game Contest. if he's doing it by ratings, it'll be obscure titles; if he's doing it by number of votes, it'll be every new title in existence. hmm.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 1:53:50 PM | message detail
Also, I'm at a loss for whom to nominate without half of my nominations being sucked up by the NRT.
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Yesmar | Posted 8/8/2008 1:54:29 PM | message detail
No more 4 ways plz.

OMG, what if it's ****ing Tag Team! That would be so awful.
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Yesmar | Posted 8/8/2008 1:56:29 PM | message detail
Something I just noticed while nominating:

I typed in Aeris and got:

The character/game you entered didn't precisely match any of the most common characacters nominated. If the character you intend to nominate is listed below, please select them.

with an option for her full name.

**** yeah! I wonder who this would help out the most.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 1:56:47 PM | message detail
Also, kinda glad you can delete nominations this time.
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Lopen | Posted 8/8/2008 1:57:42 PM | message detail
Remember, everyone, nominate Raiden again. Last year was not a real chance.

Hmmm, advanced nomination form, cool deal.
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Lopen | Posted 8/8/2008 1:58:50 PM | message detail
And also, Gurus need to remember to nominate... Altair is who EC picked, right?
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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 8/8/2008 1:59:26 PM | message detail
Hey, looks like I'll start posting in this topic again >_<
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/8/2008 2:00:30 PM | message detail
All gurus have to nominate Altair.

We should also support GLaDOS and Ike, the former for being the most interesting character in a while from a popular game, the second to measure the SSBB boost.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 2:02:35 PM | message detail
Nominate Diddy Kong and Seifer since they didn't get in at all!

Also, I can't believe I'm considering nominating Phoenix Wright! A testament to how good those games are!
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trannyscience | Posted 8/8/2008 2:05:24 PM | message detail
you know... this is good news of course, but I can't really get myself to care about nominating this year. woo Character Battle VII before Best Game Ever II.

I'm sure it'll be fun, but with the idea of Yet Another Twist to try and prevent More of the Same for the Seventh Time... grrr.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 2:06:25 PM | message detail
Wait...Character Battle VII?

It's a sign! Cloud Strife shall win!
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XxSoulxX | Posted 8/8/2008 2:08:21 PM | message detail
We should nominate Wolf for the SSBB boost!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 2:09:00 PM | message detail
Nominate Diddy! He'll be stronger than Wolf and Ike!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/8/2008 2:09:37 PM | message detail
There's some reason to nominate Diddy, but Wolf? Please.

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Lopen | Posted 8/8/2008 2:13:03 PM | message detail
Nominate friggin Drebin, screw this SSBB crap. MGS4 fa life.

(but if you must got Brawl go Meta-Knight)
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swirIdude | Posted 8/8/2008 2:17:21 PM | message detail
Knuckles and GLaDoS need your support!
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XxSoulxX | Posted 8/8/2008 2:17:42 PM | message detail
Wolf is badass! come on! >_>

Diddy rally I can get behind though. Anything but another FE rep.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/8/2008 2:18:47 PM | message detail
I nominated Revolver Ocelot for a MGS4 rep!

And Gray Fox! He needs to be in a contest!

I have 4 nominations left and no idea who to use them on.
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ZFS | Posted 8/8/2008 2:18:51 PM | message detail
I have no idea who to nominate. Got Snake and Ocelot right now - any new character that isn't from Nintendo?

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