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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 9:15:44 AM | message detail
I was just about to post that poll, tranny! Perfect Dark > GoldenEye > Perfect Dark confirmed.

I'd like to see a new Favorite Mario Game poll with Galaxy to see how everything looks now.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 9:16:25 AM | message detail
Also, I'm surprised that Yoshi's Island got smashed as badly as it did in those polls.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/4/2008 9:17:43 AM | message detail
Super Mario 64 would definitely beat Goldeneye.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 9:18:55 AM | message detail
And I think I'm one of those people who'd have to give Mario 64 the benefit of the doubt against GoldenEye. When in doubt, choose the one who's more likely to SFF the other, and that's definitely Mario 64.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/4/2008 9:37:58 AM | message detail
SM64 only suffered 3 points worse than GE against a Zelda game; a game more likely to SFF it.

i think the only way i can see GE taking that match is if GE was SFF'd more.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/4/2008 11:44:30 AM | message detail
I can buy PD edging GE back in '00- the game was huge that year. Despite not coming out until May, PD finished as the 9th most-visited FAQ for 2000; it was even checked more often than Ocarina. And while FAQ lists are basically meaningless these days, with those pathetic votals back in 2000 they would have had a huge impact on any result (remember that the boards were still in their infancy, so if you came to the site it was almost certainly because you needed help on a game).

http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/topfaqs/

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consolefreak | Posted 8/4/2008 11:51:23 AM | message detail
^ lol dude that's pretty awesome
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/4/2008 11:52:35 AM | message detail
I think you'll find that everything I do or say is awesome.

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H__RR____H | Posted 8/4/2008 12:36:16 PM | message detail
Awesome find about the N64-poll, tranny. The nostalgia is definitely going to be strong in GE from the looks of that, though LoZ:OoT being in the poll makes everything else look crazy and especially unreliable for a multi-way poll (PD > GE? So awesome but untrue)...

...but that's still another sign that GE > SM64, even if it was once upon a time. Evidence of varying credibility is mounting.




Man, all those old polls prove is that we've had such a HUUUUUUUUUGE demographic switch in the last ten years. You have to remember that FFX beat SSBM cleanly and easily way back when, too.

This particular example makes me mad because it's one of the most common examples and it's almost solely because the Gamecube was less than two months old compared to the PS2 being out for over a year at that point. That's why both FFX and GTA3 were able to embarrass anything else in the poll.


And I'm not sure how much credibility I give this poll either. Again, it's not a popularity contest. I don't see anyone taking that "Which character do you want to see in Brawl?" poll seriously.

That because Mega Man and especially Sonic (thanks EGM) were being heavily rumored to be in SSBB -- those two had speculation through the roof. That anticipation and high hope for them to appear in one game (which the poll was specifically about) showed us that it could be discarded by how close they got to Cloud. Meanwhile, while there are high hopes for classics like CT and GE to land on the VC, the rumors are on a much lower level because of two things:

A) They're ultimately ports -- they're not new to us.
B) They're more likely to be ported in other ways; CTDS is coming out this year, and it is just as likely if not moreso for Rare to put GE on XLA than the VC.

In fact, this polls are about the opposite of hype; I figure they are more on nostalgia than anything else. They can't be taken strictly at face value for all sorts of reasons, but some things should not be ignore. I predict GE smoking ass despite PD today is one of them. Also, for kicks, I asked several friends of mine today about whether they thought SM64 or GE was more popular for the N64...and it was unanimous for GE. That's only my personal evidence, but it's worth noting. Couple that with the nice point yoblazer made that it's arguably the most-played N64 game, and...I mean, this isn't as unreasonable as people make it sound sometimes.


tranny's Mario-polls

I'm comfortable with how SM64 did in those -- the only time it didn't beat SMW was right after SMS's release. We do need another Mario-poll though so we can judge if SM64 being the only 3D-Mario favored it a lot or not.


Also, I'm surprised that Yoshi's Island got smashed as badly as it did in those polls.

I am too, but it is a lot more obscure than most Mario titles as well as unusual for Mario. Still love it though.
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H__RR____H | Posted 8/4/2008 12:47:19 PM | message detail
I'm now going to point out three solid reasons why Mario/Samus and GE/SM64 are not the same:


Mario/Samus: between Mario/Link in 2002 and Link/Samus in 2003, Samus outdid Mario against Link by .47%
GE/SM64: between the second and third round in 2004, GE outdid SM64 by 3.21%.
IMPORTANT: Although it is still pretty small, that's almost seven times as much of a gap and their matches were nearly side-by-side. Presumably, there's less room for error.

Mario/Samus: Mario is the clear face of Nintendo. Samus, while arguably equally popular on GameFAQs, is clearly not the face of Nintendo.
SM64/GE: SM64 is not the clear face of the Nintendo 64, nor is SM64 even the clear face of the Mario series. GE, despite not technically being Nintendo, can be argued as the face of the Nintendo 64.
IMPORTANT: The sense there's something obvious that stats overlook are considerably smaller. Presumably, there's less room for error.

Mario/Samus: outside of GameFAQs pre-2k5, almost anyone will tell you Mario will be more popular.
SM64/GE: GameFAQs seemed rather split on the issue, with the evidence we have siding with GE. Outside of GameFAQs, at least to my anecdotal experience and what I would predict from many more, GE appears to be similarly sided with.
IMPORTANT: thinking GE > SM64 is not just stat-chat or exclusive to GameFAQs. There is reason to believe GE being just as favored could be fairly universal amongst game-players...

...in fact, let's look more at how SM64/GE compare off of GameFAQs. From what I could find:


GameRankings: http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y
SM64 > GE by less than .1% of the reviewers while GE > SM64 by less than .1% of the votes.

GAME's Greatest Games Ever: http://retrozoid.net/2008/06/14/game-greatest-games-of-all-time-poll-results/
SM64 had #5 and GE had #6 overall in UK. It's worth noting toward the bottom of the page though that going strictly by GAME's staff (apparently this list consisted of both staff and customers) that their #1 game was GE.

An emulator site I'm not going to name: http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6980/gesm64yj9.png
There are four Mario titles there and there's less than 600 votes, so this can't be taken terribly seriously. That said, GE is still in second place for a site that is out to actively get games.


I think those are important things to consider if you're taking SM64 > GE because of logic along the lines of SM64 being true-Nintendo or GE reminding you of Samus. This does not mean SM64 > GE can't happen; Mario got ~60% on Samus, afterall, and if GE/SM64 follows their same path then SM64 has a very nice pad. I just think that, in comparison to Mario/Samus, GE has done more to show it's stronger than SM64 on GameFAQs (even if by a little bit), GE > SM64 is more reasonable outside of GameFAQs (by a lot), and there's a lot less of an x-factor involved. I don't think you can fairly say SM64 would clearly win (like SOME people do; you know who you are) in light of everything we've seen GE do in comparison to SM64 and after recognizing the differences between GE/SM64 and Mario/Samus.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 12:48:55 PM | message detail
...but that's still another sign that GE > SM64, even if it was once upon a time. Evidence of varying credibility is mounting.

There's that whole "OoT has more reason to SFF Mario 64 harder than GoldenEye" thing there. You know, like how Cloud has more reason to SFF Squall than Auron, thus why Auron did better. Or why Link has more reason to SFF Ganon or Yoshi than Fox. You can't take SFF polls seriously because the level of SFF varies greatly.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 12:50:26 PM | message detail
This particular example makes me mad because it's one of the most common examples and it's almost solely because the Gamecube was less than two months old compared to the PS2 being out for over a year at that point. That's why both FFX and GTA3 were able to embarrass anything else in the poll.

...They embarrassed MGS2, too, and FFX had been out for, what, a week when this poll was done? The newness of the 'Cube means NOTHING, and it only proves that the demographic of the site HAS changed. I don't know what your point proves at all.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/4/2008 12:54:30 PM | message detail
SM64/GE: SM64 is not the clear face of the Nintendo 64, nor is SM64 even the clear face of the Mario series. GE, despite not technically being Nintendo, can be argued as the face of the Nintendo 64.
why cant the launch game of N64 that has the face of Nintendo be the face of the Nintendo 64?

i mean it seriously started 3D gaming a good ways; a lot more than what being a FPS console shooter did... at least for GameFAQs, anyway.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 12:55:47 PM | message detail
Also, OoT is the face of the N64, if anything.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/4/2008 1:01:51 PM | message detail
well, at least be more of a face than GE. =P
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trannyscience | Posted 8/4/2008 1:12:11 PM | message detail
i mean it seriously started 3D gaming a good ways; a lot more than what being a FPS console shooter did... at least for GameFAQs, anyway.

I would disagree with this here. Goldeneye was just as big as far as this goes - it introduced console FPS to the world in a way no one other game had been able to. now, whether or not it's more or less popular than SM64 is up in the air, but I wouldn't just say "it's the first popular 3d platformer it has to be popular!", because Goldeneye has "it's the first popular console FPS it has to be popular!" going for as well. and you can't use the "for GameFAQs, anyway" excuse when it's currently rocking a Zelda game and a Smash game.

for the record, I had the same "it's Mario, everyone has it, everyone likes it" thought with Mario World vs. Chrono Trigger, and CT bombed it. just because it launched with the system and everyone played it doesn't mean everyone likes it. the same goes for Mario 64.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/4/2008 1:13:45 PM | message detail
Also, OoT is the face of the N64, if anything.

and I agree with this too, much like we've seen FF7 slaughter everything PS1 in its path. (what's up, Metal Gear Solid) if true, Goldeneye got hammered just as hard as SM64.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 1:16:31 PM | message detail
I'll go ahead and say that I'm on the fence leaning slightly toward Mario 64 at the moment (though I do think the game is overrated by many people, but strictly in an SFF environment, I favor it here), but I wouldn't be surprised at the result one way or the other. Maybe GoldenEye has the advantage on paper, but it's not as decisive as some say.

Just be honest: Would you have ever picked Mario 64 to get less than 60% on SotN? Also, 85% on NiGHTS is more impressive to me than 80% on a game that got more votes in the poll than copies sold.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/4/2008 1:19:28 PM | message detail
Mario and OoT are the faces of the N64 for hardcore gamers.

Your casual players who like games like Halo and Madden are gonna opt for Goldeneye as the N64's face. They're not the majority of GameFAQs, of course, but considering how much support Goldeneye has with hardcore gamers, I don't think Goldeneye beating SM64 is out of the question, nor it being acknowledged more among people in general than Mario or Zelda.

As for best-selling N64 games, according to Wikipedia:

# Super Mario 64 (11 million)[44]
# Mario Kart 64 (8.47 million approximately: 6.23 million in US and PAL region,[58] 2.24 million in Japan)[47]
# GoldenEye 007 (8 million)[59][60][44]
# The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (7.6 million)[45]
# Super Smash Bros. (4.9 million approximately: 2.93 million in US,[20] 1.97 million in Japan)[47]
# Diddy Kong Racing (4.434 million approximately: 3.78 million in US and PAL,[58] 653,928 in Japan)[61]
# Pokémon Stadium (3.871 million approximately: 3.16 million in US,[20] 710,765 in Japan)[61]
# Donkey Kong 64 (3.77 million approximately: 2.67 million in US,[20] 1.1 million in Japan)[47]
# The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (3.36 million)[45]
# Star Fox 64 (3.325 million approximately: 2.76 million in US,[20] 565,222 in Japan)[61]

Goldeneye sold pretty damn well and even outsold OoT and is within range of SM64. It might have even had more exposure due to its multiplayer aspect as opposed to the single-player SM64. Goldeneye's gotta be the most popular N64 game to the general public, or at least close to Mario Kart 64 just for the multiplayer. I don't think it'd be surprising to see Goldeneye being the second-strongest N64 game here after OoT.

Of course, now I'm wondering how Mario Kart 64 would do in a contest setting.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 1:22:52 PM | message detail
http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/galleries/top-10-greatest-consoles/?page=3

This sorta interested me, considering what we're currently discussing.

Sure, the list is overall HORRIBLE (look at #1 if you don't believe me), but nevertheless, I smirked when I read this one here.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/4/2008 1:24:49 PM | message detail
Sure, the list is overall HORRIBLE (look at #1 if you don't believe me)

I looked at #1, and I don't see a problem.

Though if you meant #2, then yeah, I'd agree that that is a serious problem.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/4/2008 1:27:09 PM | message detail
It might have even had more exposure due to its multiplayer aspect as opposed to the single-player SM64.

I'm sure it has in the US. Goldeneye only sold one million fewer copies here, and its bread and butter was multiplayer to an extent never seen before in a console game. Every kid who had Goldeneye had at least three buddies who played Goldeneye with him.
trannyscience | Posted 8/4/2008 1:32:12 PM | message detail
yep. you could not have a 64, but you played Goldeneye with friends. freaking everyone played Goldeneye. I would argue that it actually hit more people than SM64. it's just a matter of if it's more popular.

Goldeneye is this weird crossover game that somehow hit both the FPS fans and the Nintendo fans. no other game has done that. I could see the Samus comparisons there because it's possible the Nintendo fans will abandon it for their icon, but I'm not sure if it's the same because the masses legitimately like Goldeneye.

head-to-head I'm up in the air, but I think people dismissing Goldeneye immediately are making a mistake.
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H__RR____H | Posted 8/4/2008 1:40:25 PM | message detail
There's that whole "OoT has more reason to SFF Mario 64 harder than GoldenEye" thing there. You know, like how Cloud has more reason to SFF Squall than Auron, thus why Auron did better. Or why Link has more reason to SFF Ganon or Yoshi than Fox. You can't take SFF polls seriously because the level of SFF varies greatly.

I think given the perception that GE is essentially Nintendo to many gamers and that they are all must-play/own games, the SFF'ing situation isn't as big as you make it sound. Furthermore, you can actually say SM64 was SFF'd harder than GE by a decent bit and STILL have GE be ahead.


...They embarrassed MGS2, too, and FFX had been out for, what, a week when this poll was done? The newness of the 'Cube means NOTHING, and it only proves that the demographic of the site HAS changed. I don't know what your point proves at all.

The commitment to get a new system and at least one game is obviously MUCH bigger than the commitment to get a new game on a system you already own, especially when you had to put the faith into Nintendo to rebound from the N64 with the Gamecube. You see that ~58% of the votes went to PS2 games, right? Halo and SSBM combined got ~21%. It's not the slightest bit of a coincidence that the Gamecube and Xbox were released less than two months before that. The demographic has changed BECAUSE those systems have since had time to mature and flourish here.


why cant the launch game of N64 that has the face of Nintendo be the face of the Nintendo 64? [...] i mean it seriously started 3D gaming a good ways; a lot more than what being a FPS console shooter did... at least for GameFAQs, anyway.

1) After SM64/LoZ:OoT, I think we can agree it's not the unanimous face of the N64 at least. I think we can also understand that there have been heated debates ever since their releases on whether LoZ:OoT, SM64, or GE is the best game of the N64. LoZ:OoT is the most favored and honored, but we know the debates arise.

2) MGS4 became the face of the PS3 eighteen months after the PS3's release, for what it's worth. I'll respect that SM64 was at launch, but GE still came out within a year of its release.

3) The N64 -- despite two of its biggest games (LoZ:OoT and SM64) being strictly single-player -- was just as well known for its multi-player. GE is why. It defined what four-player gaming could be and did it excellently for its time. It's arguably the most-played game on the N64 and certainly one of the best-selling. It's also almost certainly the reason why PD has a quarter of the success it's got today, and PD not only is loved by many but was the only reason why PD-Zero was hyped as a 360 launch title.
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H__RR____H | Posted 8/4/2008 1:40:50 PM | message detail
Also, OoT is the face of the N64, if anything.

It's the most prominent face, yes. I think it's going to depend on the gamer for which of the big three their personal face is though, and I think that GE being the face of N64's multi-player can be lethal to most other N64 games.


Just be honest: Would you have ever picked Mario 64 to get less than 60% on SotN? Also, 85% on NiGHTS is more impressive to me than 80% on a game that got more votes in the poll than copies sold.

Back then? No, but I didn't respect C:SotN back then -- I took PD > C:SotN in a close one that year, afterall. The other comparison is not flattering either, though I've felt Panzer caters to the GameFAQs crowd more than NiGHTS for whatever reason. Still, they were both expected to be major fodder...the precise numbers are hard to defend in their cases when we don't know where GE or SM64 are.


yep. you could not have a 64, but you played Goldeneye with friends. freaking everyone played Goldeneye. [...] Goldeneye is this weird crossover game that somehow hit both the FPS fans and the Nintendo fans.

Agreed. I never had Goldeneye, but I went over to a friend's house almost every day and loved getting my ass kicked in it. =) It was an amazing game in single-player and especially multi-player developed by Nintendo-lite Rare and was the first truly successful game based on film. Its cross-over appeal was bound to happen after that, and then the game stayed popular as it hit controversies like EGM's "different Bonds" trick. Once they found out you could actually use a GameShark to get different Bonds, I bet that became one of the most used codes in Gameshark history, too.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 1:53:34 PM | message detail
2) MGS4 became the face of the PS3 eighteen months after the PS3's release, for what it's worth. I'll respect that SM64 was at launch, but GE still came out within a year of its release.

MGS4 was the face of the PS3 before either was released, heh.

But I'm asking if you would think NOW that Mario 64 would get less than 60% on SotN NOW? It seems strange to me to think it would happen. Castlevania's still quite a force these days, it seems, even if Alucard's popularity is waning. Doesn't mean Mario 64 COULDN'T get less than 60%, but to me, I'd say it'd be perceived as disappointing if it did.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/4/2008 1:56:18 PM | message detail
I still don't know what to think of SOTN.. I mean, it seems very popular, but yet it's clearly a tier or two below huge titles like 007 or M64. I'd say Mario 64 gets 62% on SOTN, for no reason whatsoever. 007 would get a little more today, since SOTN seems to be dying off as the site gets more mainstream.
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H__RR____H | Posted 8/4/2008 2:03:00 PM | message detail
Nowadays, hmm...I don't know. I'd say about 60% even would sound right for SM64, give or take a touch. That'd still be better than what GE did in 2004, but with Alucard not impressing lately and SM64's high play-rate, I think that's fair to see it outdo GE years ago by a little.
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H__RR____H | Posted 8/4/2008 2:04:59 PM | message detail
I will say I'm a little cautious in making C:SotN look like it's dropping like Alucard's ability to impress though, due to the XLA release a year or two ago. It doesn't seem like it's done anything for the character, but I don't think it hurt the game to put it out to a new audience either -- I know I'll vote for it occasionally now because of the port.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 2:06:33 PM | message detail
2006 was Alucard's worst year, but Castlevania still managed to impress in the Series Contest that year. It's still got something left in the tank, I think. It hasn't lost that much.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 2:40:18 PM | message detail
So, uhhh...Is there anything else we can do a VC poll on?
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trannyscience | Posted 8/4/2008 2:50:04 PM | message detail
maybe a best of...

Goldeneye > CT > SHAQ FU > Battletoads woo
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ZFS | Posted 8/4/2008 3:01:22 PM | message detail
Some of the reasoning I'm seeing for Goldeneye over Mario 64 is really stretching it.

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/4/2008 3:10:36 PM | message detail
I think an overall-VC poll is all that could be left to reasonably do; surely SB won't do polls about the Neo Geo, TurboGrafx, or Master System. You could probably combine them all into the same poll and it still not get 50,000 votes.

Either way, I figure there's either an overall-VC poll tomorrow or we're done today. Here's to hoping we get some GE/CT action tomorrow though!
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trannyscience | Posted 8/4/2008 3:12:44 PM | message detail
CT's got a port coming to the DS - god knows that would factor in. if people use it to argue Goldeneye > CT, there'll be fightin' words up in here.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/4/2008 3:23:31 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44681967 -- let's do this.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/4/2008 3:23:46 PM | message detail
Haha, GE could beat CT tomorrow and I still wouldn't take GE > CT in a match...

...if there is an overall-VC poll though, I hope it only has the winners of the past four polls. That way, it would be very focused on GE and CT and we could get a clearer idea of /b/'s rally-power if they tried anything again with Battletoads. Sure, it would be fun to see EB and LoZ:MM again if he brought in the runner-ups too, but I don't care nearly so much about them while MM:WW and FF would flop hardcore anyway...plus it would let /b/'s potential rallying be more effective. Hopefully it would only be the winners.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/4/2008 3:25:56 PM | message detail
If CT were to lose to GE with two nonfactors in the poll, I'd be more worried about CT than anything else. There's no way CT should lose that.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/4/2008 3:27:53 PM | message detail
"if Cloud were to lose to Sonic, I would be more worried about Cloud than anything else."

that's about how much I put into that result given CT's porting. I think CT would be right next to Goldeneye though.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/4/2008 3:34:19 PM | message detail
I dunno about that. CT on VC is more appealing than CTDS for a couple of good reasons. I don't think CT's performance in the SNES poll was because of the DS port, I think it was because there were three other popular Square games (and Secret of Evermore) stuck with it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 3:37:44 PM | message detail
Regardless, I have a hard time taking TOO much from any of these polls. For one, they're multiway. It's like taking last year's contest to predict this year's Character Battle (assuming it's one-on-one). Sure, a lot of it's going to hold up probably, but there are some things that just ain't gonna fly one-on-one.
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ZFS | Posted 8/4/2008 3:37:54 PM | message detail
Can't see Goldeneye hanging with Chrono Trigger in an 'overall' VC poll, especially since there won't be any other Square games holding it back.

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/4/2008 3:42:49 PM | message detail
It's still pretty amazing EB looked as well as it did though, especially with Square's top SNES-RPGs (minus SMRPG) in the poll and it still outdid the likes of SMK and MMX. I know there's been some recent demand and rallying from starmen.net for Nintendo Power's polls about what games they'd like to see on the VC the most (coincidentally, EB was #1 and CT was #2 in their magazine), but to withstand all those RPGs and still clearly outdo another Nintendo game most of us would STILL take to beat EB in a match...

...that's the most impressive anything EB/Mother/Ness-related has looked by far.
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NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
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Yesmar | Posted 8/4/2008 4:54:42 PM | message detail
I agree that Earthbound looked impressive, but I think people might be underestimating in some of these older-gen polls how many people are voting for games they've never played. Earthbound probably benefited a lot from people who have heard it hyped up and who's only access to it is through Smash Bros.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/4/2008 5:36:06 PM | message detail
That's a fair point about voting for games people have never played...

...puts a new spin on things if you look at some of these from that perspective.
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NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118
LeonhartFour | Posted 8/4/2008 9:01:59 PM | message detail
Well, back to normal. It was a fun three days while it lasted.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/4/2008 9:06:35 PM | message detail
Boo.

Though I guess it will be kind of interesting to see the trends here, though it would be more interesting if this was held a month from now.

Non: I really don't play games at all 0.44%
Casual: I just play for fun now and then 8.8%
Average: Gaming is my hobby, that's all 34.68%
Hardcore: I spend most of my free time gaming 35.3%
Fanatical: I spend almost all of my time gaming 6.07%
Ex-Hardcore/Fanatical: I used to play a lot, but I've backed off 14.7%
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/4/2008 9:09:37 PM | message detail
Demographics are nice to get a general idea of who's voting in the contests. We can see what percentage of voters would be knowledgeable in gaming culture which may give us an idea on how certain matches may go.

OK, so it probably won't help at all, but hell, it's better than whatever crap polls some users submit.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/4/2008 9:46:43 PM | message detail
1. Microsoft Xbox 360

Yes, it breaks every five minutes, but there's no denying the Xbox 360's dominance in the home.


What the goddamn HELL.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/4/2008 10:03:49 PM | message detail
Yeah, this demographic poll is somewhat timely, as just yesterday I was making the claim that GameFAQs has become both more popular and more casual since 2004, and that could be part of the reason for GE's continued success. Too bad we've never seen this poll before, so we have no way to know if trends have changed at all...

With that in mind, what I would rather see re-run is this poll, from back in October of 2003.

What's your favorite game genre of all?
Action 10.47% 5782
Adventure 8.27% 4566
Driving/Racing 1.74% 960
Fighting 4.32% 2388
MMORPG 3.4% 1880
Puzzle 0.5% 275
RPG 60.81% 33577
Simulation 0.68% 373
Sports 4.12% 2277
Strategy 3.86% 2131
Other 1.82% 1005
TOTAL VOTES 55214

Maybe "casual" isn't the way to describe it, but I think the GameFAQs population has at least diversified plenty since back then- I seriously doubt RPGs would pull down 61% here in '08.

...wait a minute, where the junk is the FPS option there? Jeez, and it needs a music game option as well, with how loved GH is these days.

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