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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 552

UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/1/2008 6:40:55 PM | message detail
~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms, Percentages For Dummies, and Odd Matches*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/1/2008 6:41:09 PM | message detail
Toads!
ExThaNemesis | Posted 8/1/2008 6:42:08 PM | message detail
Nontest stats and discussion
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/1/2008 6:42:18 PM | message detail
Oh and that should be the last update the first post needs for quite awhile. Thanks for the help and such.

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Now Playing: FF12, Crisis Core, Final Fantasy 4 DS
UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/1/2008 9:14:37 PM | message detail
EarthBound > all of you

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ZFS | Posted 8/1/2008 9:14:56 PM | message detail
bad rpgs

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Lucid Faia | Posted 8/1/2008 9:15:56 PM | message detail
EarthBound > All

<3

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/1/2008 9:15:56 PM | message detail
And now it's only down 11. I love this.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/1/2008 9:16:28 PM | message detail
EarthBound is a contender for my favorite RPG of all time.

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/1/2008 9:16:28 PM | message detail
Earthbound's awesome.

The fact that HM hates it is proof alone of its awesomeness.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/1/2008 9:16:32 PM | message detail
This poll needs more Turtles in Time.

And Zombies Ate My Neighbors.

And Aladdin.

And the Magical Quest Starring Mickey Mouse.

...What?
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/1/2008 9:17:00 PM | message detail
Which do you guys think is more likely...

Mana > FFVI, or Trigger > Earthbound?
Lucid Faia | Posted 8/1/2008 9:17:23 PM | message detail
The fact that HM hates it is proof alone of its awesomeness.

As if any of his opinions can ever be taken seriously.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/1/2008 9:18:03 PM | message detail
*looks at your sig*

I could say the same thing.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/1/2008 9:18:08 PM | message detail
and I agree with everything Leon just posted.
ZFS | Posted 8/1/2008 9:18:18 PM | message detail
Haha. Woo Earthbound fans

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/1/2008 9:19:46 PM | message detail
Haha. Woo Earthbound fans

At least they like games more than a week. What game is your flavor of the week this week?

You're a prostitute for games. You'll suck off the flashiest games out there and then move on when you sucked them dry.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 8/1/2008 9:21:09 PM | message detail
Well, I'm loving how well EarthBound is doing. It probably won't last, it'll probably fall to a distant second or even third eventually, but this is still very pleasing to see.

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 8/1/2008 9:21:17 PM | message detail
Woo Earthbound = LttP confirmed.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 8/1/2008 9:21:29 PM | message detail
Has anyone noticed that Sailor Bacon sucks at picking options for a poll
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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/1/2008 9:21:29 PM | message detail
Haha, given CT and EB's voting trends, EarthBound's got this easy. As much as I love CT I find that intensely amusing.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/1/2008 9:22:02 PM | message detail
I don't see anything surpassing Earthbound for second place, even though the game probably does have a bad day vote.

...Actually, just about every game on that poll should have a bad day vote, except for maybe MMX or Mario Kart.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 8/1/2008 9:22:11 PM | message detail
Battletoads > Final Fantasy, and Earthbound = LttP

Therefore, Doom > FFVII
ZFS | Posted 8/1/2008 9:23:26 PM | message detail
ok, so there's this giant pile of crap, right. it's shaped like a giant tank and it's walking around on two legs, goin on a rampage and stompin on people and houses and stuff. and this giant turd is carrying the nastiest missiles you ever saw. like, whenever it launches one of its turd missiles....whatever it hits - people, trees, building - turns into ****. my hometown, my old school, my family, my girlfriend, old man john...everything in that turd's path turned into ****

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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/1/2008 9:24:03 PM | message detail
Don't forget Earthbound > FFVI > Doom > Earthbound > FFVII
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/1/2008 9:33:42 PM | message detail
All tied up!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/1/2008 9:51:05 PM | message detail
GOGO EARTHBOUND

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/1/2008 11:33:46 PM | message detail
so speaking of FFVI, let's get Shadow in this contest dammit.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/1/2008 11:41:22 PM | message detail
Why does SB suck at poll options? We discussed which options he should use here yesterday, and he put in 5 of the games we suggested. The only big one he missed is Yoshi's Island.

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He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly.
HaRRicH | Posted 8/2/2008 2:01:18 AM | message detail
Yeah. If we could have replaced SoE and/or FF4 with SMW2:YI and/or SMRPG, this poll would be pretty awesome right now.
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NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118
HaRRicH | Posted 8/2/2008 2:04:46 AM | message detail
Also...how about a N64-based poll? What games should be in that? I'd guess...

Banjo-Kazooie
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Goldeneye 007
LOZ:MM
Mario Party
Perfect Dark
Pilotwings 64
Super Smash Bros.


...had a little fun with throwing PW64 into this!
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NRT winners: Pokemon R/B/Y, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44623118
voltch | Posted 8/2/2008 2:18:51 AM | message detail
square is murdering itself here,their combined total is quite impressive imo.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 8/2/2008 2:27:25 AM | message detail
Yeah. If we could have replaced SoE and/or FF4 with SMW2:YI and/or SMRPG, this poll would be pretty awesome right now.

The poll says classics, not stupid overrated to hell and back games that got Mario in title.
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/2/2008 2:33:28 AM | message detail
not stupid overrated to hell and back games that got Mario in title.

*sees SMK*

what

On a less fanboyish note, I can't help but be disappointed with the non-CT Square titles. Sure, there's 5 Square games in this poll, but FFVI is one of the biggest SNES games on this site and it's in 5th... probably a distant 5th by the end of this.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/2/2008 9:38:40 AM | message detail
FFVI is being LFF'd by CT. Either one of these games would be winning the poll easily if the other wasn't there.

Also, keep SSB out of the N64 poll just to make it interesting. Otherwise, it'll be a slaughter.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/2/2008 9:39:11 AM | message detail
Also...

so speaking of FFVI, let's get Locke in this contest

Fixed.
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swirIdude | Posted 8/2/2008 9:43:35 AM | message detail
so speaking of FFVI, let's stop getting its numerous fodder characters in this contest

Fixed.
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ZFS | Posted 8/2/2008 9:44:30 AM | message detail
Swirldude knows.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/2/2008 9:46:54 AM | message detail
Fodder or not, I love Locke enough to vote him in regardless!

Haha, given CT and EB's voting trends, EarthBound's got this easy. As much as I love CT I find that intensely amusing.

I find this post intensely amusing.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/2/2008 9:56:29 AM | message detail
Looks like I was quite wrong! When did CT begin pulling away?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2008 9:58:07 AM | message detail
true, Celes and Terra stunk, but i can't see Shadow stinking it up.. at least in comparison to Kefka.

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transience | Posted 8/2/2008 10:00:55 AM | message detail
this isn't a normal popularity poll. you can't really gauge five-way SFF, people knowing about CTDS, and that weird hardcore Earthbound vote that wears off after the first hour.

in other words, this poll is utter nonsense. :)
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therealmnm | Posted 8/2/2008 10:01:04 AM | message detail
Just like Cecil right? Insert Shadow Amano art instead of Cecil... still watch extreme suckage.

Oh, and Earthbound sucks.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/2/2008 10:05:03 AM | message detail
http://data1.blog.de/media/462/534462_046c41944a_m.jpeg

You can use this Shadow!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/2/2008 10:56:50 AM | message detail
what would everyone here take between MMX and Super Mario Kart?
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/2/2008 11:23:03 AM | message detail
After seeing what Mega Man did to Kart in the Series Contest, and with the recent poll suggesting X is just as popular as original Mega Man, I think you'd be kind of silly to back SMK.

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He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly.
transience | Posted 8/2/2008 11:24:25 AM | message detail
I don't agree there, necessarily. MM is a sum of its parts, while Mario Kart has stronger individual entries.

I mean, it's beating MMX here. not that I give this poll any real thought, but still, picking SMK is not silly.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/2/2008 11:27:53 AM | message detail
Why anyone would want any more FFVI characters into the contest is beyond me. None of them are very good and they're all destined to fail.

SMK vs. MMX would be a close match, i think.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/2/2008 11:31:42 AM | message detail
MM, a sum of its parts? It's the same part 17 times over! Who likes MM2 but hates MM3? Or likes MM3 but hates MMX? Any of the big games will perform much like the other IMO, while on the other hand I think SMK would be outclassed by MK64 within the series.

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He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly.
transience | Posted 8/2/2008 11:32:10 AM | message detail
then why is MMX losing to SMK here?
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