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swirIdude | Posted 7/13/2008 12:22:29 PM | message detail
or Tifa/Vyse!

Tifa > Cloud
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Aprosenf | Posted 7/13/2008 12:38:20 PM | message detail
ATTENTION ULTI (or whoever creates the next topic):

http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

Add this link to the set of links posted in the first post.

I see you noticed that my server is down, as a result of my having graduated from MIT and said server no longer being connected to the internet. I've moved my listing of all of the polls to my MIT webspace at the above address. That will definitely be good until January or so - I'm going to see if I can convince MIT to let me keep it longer (hopefully indefinitely). If not, I'll put it somewhere else when January rolls around.

I've also re-ran my scripts and updated it, so now it has all of the polls up through yesterday's (I hadn't updated it in almost a year).
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/13/2008 1:18:15 PM | message detail
AWESOME. Thanks for the update Aprosenf!
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voltch | Posted 7/14/2008 9:30:47 AM | message detail
On, Vyse,since he's been on a decline of late would you reckon CATS could take on the VFL now?
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 7/14/2008 9:47:34 AM | message detail
Any possible boosts from E3? Probably nothing like Snake experienced with Brawl + MGS4, but who knows?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/14/2008 9:55:46 AM | message detail
I thought E3 was dead or something? Wasn't there some "we're not doing this crap anymore" announcement after the Sony incident?

I'm being 1005 serious. I don't really keep up with this stuff.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/14/2008 9:55:58 AM | message detail
*100%, even

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/14/2008 9:56:46 AM | message detail
From Aprosenf Posted 7/13/2008 3:38:20 PM #052
ATTENTION ULTI (or whoever creates the next topic):

http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

Add this link to the set of links posted in the first post.

I see you noticed that my server is down, as a result of my having graduated from MIT and said server no longer being connected to the internet. I've moved my listing of all of the polls to my MIT webspace at the above address. That will definitely be good until January or so - I'm going to see if I can convince MIT to let me keep it longer (hopefully indefinitely). If not, I'll put it somewhere else when January rolls around.

I've also re-ran my scripts and updated it, so now it has all of the polls up through yesterday's (I hadn't updated it in almost a year).


Oh you kick ass.

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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 7/14/2008 9:58:14 AM | message detail
Microsoft conference begins in 30 minutes.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/14/2008 12:19:39 PM | message detail
What was the Sony incident? The worst I remember was a PS3 freezing and GIANT ENEMY CRAB.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/14/2008 12:54:46 PM | message detail
Big news -- FF13 is now going to be on the 360 too.

However this affects Sony and Microsoft, this puts a lot of new stock into Square and FF13. It was already the most anticipated game here after SSBB's release, and now it's probably going to go up quite a bit more...it'll be interesting.
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voltch | Posted 7/14/2008 12:58:17 PM | message detail
Lightning>Auron/Squall confirmed!
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/14/2008 12:58:36 PM | message detail
Oh, and now I would REALLY like to see a "Got PS3?" poll next week...not only to see how MGS4 affected its sales in the past month, but also to see how the No-options would go without FF13 being exclusive.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 7/14/2008 12:59:15 PM | message detail
THEY TUK ER EXCLUSURVES!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 7/14/2008 5:42:18 PM | message detail
It's a good thing Sony was able to keep MGS4 as a PS3 exclusive now. Otherwise, it'd be yet another nail...Well, you know the rest.

As for CATS, he's fodder. He's not anywhere close to the fodder line, even as Face CATS. I've heard some people say Captain Falcon should be the new standard, but I don't agree with that either. I don't think he's at around 20% on BL.

Maybe Axel?
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Haste_2 | Posted 7/14/2008 6:36:29 PM | message detail
All BL stats:

Axel '06 - 23.15%
Captain Falcon '06- 19.70%
Vyse '03 - 19.05%
Vyse '04 - 19.21%

Using the best knowledge we have, Captain Falcon would be more than strong enough to replace Vyse as the new fodder line (assuming Falcon's stayed constant...). That's assuming you want a new equal of the old Vyse, though.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 7/14/2008 6:55:54 PM | message detail
For some reason, getting tripled by Crono doesn't strike me as someone who's at the fodder line, especially 2006 Crono. I dunno.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/14/2008 7:11:29 PM | message detail
I'm up for saying that 20+% on the champion each year is enough to not be fodder. How they relate to other characters in past or future years, I don't really care since it's a title we've debated over so long.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 7/15/2008 12:55:41 AM | message detail
I've only seen GameFAQs, land of company loyalists, whining about the FF13 news. Everyone else realizes how good this is for gamers =/

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voltch | Posted 7/15/2008 2:54:25 AM | message detail
Funny thing is depending on where you live this announcement's meaning varies,on Gfaqs this can cause a ****storm,but just about everyone I know will buy the PES games instead since FF=stand,wait,attack,get hit and repeat.

Is europe,especially the UK really into sports games?from Fifa to PES to Football Manager etc...
RPGs appear don't get a lot of attention and a lot of younger people seem to be really into FPS games.

And just wondering,we've seen a lot of people gloat with glee at childish PS3 fanboys throwing tantrums on a few boards like the FFXIII boards,but does anyone really think these people who enjoy laughing at such whiners will actually buy the game in droves?

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LeonhartFour | Posted 7/15/2008 5:20:10 AM | message detail
I could see why Sony fanboys would be complaining about the move because the PS3 needed another major exclusive. At least MGS4 was kept exclusive for them.

And there's always KHIII, but that's probably a couple more years away anyway (though so is FFXIII, it seems. Come on, FFVII through FFX came out over a 5 year span, and now it's like a 5 year gap between each installment!).
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H__RR____H | Posted 7/15/2008 8:09:31 AM | message detail
I heard somebody mention this yesterday...but I figure Sony is now going to try clinging onto KH3 ever-so-tightly. Likewise though, somebody else mentioned Nintendo getting its hands on KH3 to make it multi-platform too...

...the rumors are fun, at least!
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voltch | Posted 7/15/2008 8:57:10 AM | message detail
Are there any non-square related announcements that could possibly generate a frenzy such as FFXIII on xbox 360?
Another Zelda title maybe?or imagine out of nowhere we get something like mario 256.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 7/15/2008 7:57:35 PM | message detail
I wouldn't imagine the mere announcement of Zelda Wii (which happened, I hear) would rival the news of FFXIII going to the 360. If it had a trailer or something, then yeah.

This is a pretty ho-hum E3 though.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/15/2008 8:06:25 PM | message detail
The "announcement" was pretty much this: "the Mario and Zelda teams are working on new games". No one knows when they'll actually be coming out.

Apparently, though, Miyamoto later confirmed SMG2 and NSMB2...but again, no idea when they're coming.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 7/15/2008 8:08:53 PM | message detail
A second Mario Galaxy? Huh, wouldn't have expected that. I was kinda expecting a new, uhhh...New Super Mario Brothers.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 7/15/2008 8:37:17 PM | message detail
What's the strongest character to come from a recent original series?

See what fun you can get out of this list: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=44291315

And this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games
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LeonhartFour | Posted 7/15/2008 8:39:21 PM | message detail
Sora.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 7/15/2008 8:45:50 PM | message detail
After looking at the strong sales on the PS1 and the GBA, I'm convinced.

We need to get Frogger into a contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 7/15/2008 8:46:51 PM | message detail
Ehh, he'd be Pac-Man level at best, and I'm not confident he'll be that high. I mean, the Frogger game for PSX was pretty awesome, but I don't find myself wanting to vote for the guy.
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greatone10 | Posted 7/15/2008 8:48:48 PM | message detail
Frogger might beat the crap out of some obscure RPG character like Vyse, but I think, like Pac-Man, he'd crumble to anyone with a shred of name recognition.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/15/2008 8:50:59 PM | message detail
That includes facing Pac-Man.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 7/15/2008 8:55:36 PM | message detail
He'd still at least have some potential to be surprising, which you can't really say about the rest of the field that hasn't been in yet.

The guy got over 3 million people to buy his PS1 game despite not doing anything since his glory days. He sold well on two GBA games.

Well, he might pull a small surprise and do like 5% better than the expected 75/25 against whatever midcarder he's stuck with first round. Still, he has more potential to be at least somewhat interesting than other characters that haven't been in the contest yet.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 7/15/2008 8:56:56 PM | message detail
I'd still rather not see him because he's boring...And I really don't see him getting a favorable matchup that he can actually win.
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H__RR____H | Posted 7/16/2008 8:01:46 AM | message detail
Haha, I'd love to see Frogger face somebody controversial on his first match here to get the board riled up, like Niko.

Or...haha, can't believe I'm even suggesting this...Frogger VS Frog.
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voltch | Posted 7/16/2008 11:36:12 AM | message detail
that sales chart on wiki really makes me wonder how Crash and Lara would have done pre PS2 era.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/16/2008 1:50:38 PM | message detail
Surely they would have done better, but they wouldn't have been elites or else that would have been an amazing fall from grace.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 7/16/2008 1:52:07 PM | message detail
Frogger vs. Frog would cause mass confusion and hysteria.

I'm for it.
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voltch | Posted 7/16/2008 1:54:51 PM | message detail
I can already imagine the sprite rounds of that match.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/16/2008 1:56:51 PM | message detail
...I'd go for the upset in a Frog VS Frogger match if it was the sprite round.

Not even because I believe in it, but because my spirit wouldn't have a choice in the matter.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/16/2008 1:58:09 PM | message detail
This topic gets more desperate every day for something to discuss while we are waitning for a contest to be announced >_>
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/16/2008 1:59:49 PM | message detail
Yet SB idly ignores our suffering for months at a time.....
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voltch | Posted 7/16/2008 2:01:58 PM | message detail
sometimes I wonder if the stats topic should go on a brief hiatus during the off-off season.
The topics start to feel hollow during such a year long absence of contests.
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HaRRicH | Posted 7/16/2008 2:06:42 PM | message detail
True to a degree, but we usually don't get much productivity except for the first two weeks after a bracket is released or after matches that go differently from expectations...and even on those, if it's a huge upset (Knuckles > Magus), the topics become even more hollow than they are now.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 7/16/2008 2:24:40 PM | message detail
OMG 35 vote cut!
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 7/16/2008 2:26:01 PM | message detail
This is such cheating. My bracket has Microsoft > Sony, but the final option is clearly full of vote stuffers. This contest has lost all credibility.
HaRRicH | Posted 7/16/2008 2:31:20 PM | message detail
cutting percentage =/= cutting votes

zeldafear

100 vote barrier

L-block

noble nine is/isnt done
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TRE Public Account | Posted 7/16/2008 2:31:31 PM | message detail
Did you guys see Microsoft epic comeback two day ago? Microsoft had 19% to Sony's 23.5% before the day vote hit. If it wasn't for the FF13 announcement in the middle of the match, I don't think Microsoft would have pulled it off.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 7/16/2008 2:32:47 PM | message detail
Micro Chief/Sony Kong II, imho.
HaRRicH | Posted 7/16/2008 2:40:34 PM | message detail
I saw it and completely agree. Lucky Microsoft.
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