GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 550
| Ngamer64 | Posted 7/2/2008 12:38:52 PM | message detail |
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1) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time > (9) Street Fighter II -
SFII gets crushed, but oh well, it will hold up better than many other
games in this position, and more importantly will have had a chance to
prove itself in the first round. (4) Kingdom Hearts II > (5) Castlevania: Symphony of the Night - Interesting 4/5 here... Square has lost some of its punch since early '04 while Castlevania has kept the ball rolling, but I think the Series Contest gave us a good indication of how badly SotN would get crunched once the Day Vote rolled around. (3) Final Fantasy X > (6) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - I took WW > FFX in '04 and stand by the decision, for its time, but here in 2008 its pretty clear that WW has been overshadowed by TP and somewhat forgotten, while X has stood the test of time better than pretty much anything aside from Melee. (10) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask > (2) Halo: Combat Evolved - No matter if this ends up being MM or FF9, I'm backing either to kick Halo to the curb. Yes, the Xbox fanbase is much larger in '08 than it was in '04, but its also become more diverse. Just because you own a Xbox/360 doesn't mean you play Halo anymore, and that's a weakness you can't afford when facing the Zelda or FF fanbases. --- (1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl > (8) Final Fantasy Tactics - As always, you can't expect a 1/8 to be competitive, but at least the weaker game won't be SFFed and will be able to put up a better fight here, so good show. (4) Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow > (5) Super Metroid - Hm... maybe I'm still suffering Poke-fever from their impressive showings in 2007, but I'm also remembering the scare Pokemon put into Metroid once the Day Vote hit back in '06. Between thosePoke-loving day vote kids and the nostalgia of all the 20something, I think I'll have to give R/B/Y the edge over Super Met and its VC sales here, but this one should be nip and tuck either way. Good matchup. (6) GoldenEye > (3) Metal Gear Solid - We've been over this before, so I'll just quickly say that I don't think there's any nostalgia more powerful than gradeschool N64 multiplayer with your 3 best friends. (2) Super Smash Bros. Melee > (10) Super Mario Bros. - When I messed up the bracket last time I set Mario 1 against MGS, and that allowed me to say "whoa, watch out for that franchise vote, this is the game that "saved the video game industry," one of the most influential ever, better not count it out entirely!" Which was more fun to say than "ouch, what a pounding." --- |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 7/2/2008 12:39:14 PM | message detail |
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(1) Super Mario Bros. 3 > (8) Half-Life 2 - Uhh, I thought HL2 was going to play Melee when I messed up the bracket before, but it's pretty much the same idea, so I'll repost that comment. "There's little that's going to stand up to Melee of course, but HL2 has probably done more to maintain or expand on its 2004 strength better than nearly anything else, and this is an ideal matchup for it, so at least the game should go out with flying colors." (5) StarCraft > (4) Grand Theft Auto IV - What an awesome setup... by the second round, Blizzard vs Rockstar could be one of the coolest new Contest rivalries in a long while! If WoW only loses to GTA in a tight one, expect fans to be buzzing for revenge by the time this one kicks off. Between that and SC's improved playrate, I think it should have what it takes to edge anything GTA. (3) Chrono Trigger > (6) Super Mario Galaxy - Put this to me 2 days ago and I'd have been very tempted to back the Galaxy upset. With CT finally being brought back to life though, the game should have the breath of fresh air it needs to once again contend for a Final Four position. (2) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past > (7) Resident Evil 4 - I'm drinking the RE4 Kool Aid as much as pretty much anyone, but even I know it's biting off more than it can chew here. The SNES classics may slip a little from their '04 value, but strong VC results should be enough to ensure that LttP doesn't slip THIS far. --- (1) Final Fantasy VII > (8) Star Fox 64 - A slaughter, but this is still the best possible matchup SF64 could ask for, and it will have had a chance to prove itself in R1, so this is all well and good. (5) Super Mario 64 > (4) Super Mario World - Much like MGS2 vs 3 from last round, this one's in that rare 10% of SFF matches where the result is still highly debatable. SMW is well-loved and has done fantastic on the VC, but I'm going with Mario 64 for its "revolutionary" respect vote, N64 nostalgia, and its having appealed to both VC and DS players. (3) Final Fantasy VI > (6) The Legend of Zelda - Oh my... I've always wanted to keep Zelda 1 and Mario 1 (and FF1 for that matter) out of the bracket based on how their strength is something like 80% franchise voting, but now that I've had to pause and consider the kind of matchup problems they'd create, I'm starting to waver on that stance. As for this poll, eh, we know that Zelda > FF on the site these days, but only barely, and FF6 is not only higher on its franchise totem poll than LoZ, it's also got that handheld remake to give it an extra nudge. I'll take it, but not with confidence. (2) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess > (10) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty - I guess the downside about a cool R1er like 2 vs 3 is that the winner gets fed to a monster like TP in the next round. People are high on Snake and MGS right now, and with good reason, but sometimes getting high can result in some very poor decision-making. Picking MGS2 for this upset would be one of those bad decisions. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| voltch | Posted 7/2/2008 1:08:00 PM | message detail |
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question:If chrono trigger DS sells over 1million copies outside of
japan,how much of a boost do you see the Trigger cast getting? Maybe Magus back to being above Knuckles? --- For some reason I never know what to put here. |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 7/2/2008 1:11:41 PM | message detail |
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All I want is for Magus to slam Knuckles into oblivion. That last match they had was complete bull **** and was a travesty. --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| H__RR____H | Posted 7/2/2008 1:30:31 PM | message detail |
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It was a travesty that was necessary. Knuckles rules. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/2/2008 1:36:18 PM | message detail |
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Back to beat Knuckles? I want to see another 2003 performance from Magus. LOL x-stats 9 Magus 34.93% 33.80% North 13 3 10 Sonic the Hedgehog 34.92% 33.79% East 2 2 11 Ganondorf 34.72% 33.60% North 12 4 12 Shadow the Hedgehog 34.28% 33.18% South 9 4 13 Tidus So um Shadow the Hedgehog VS Magus, who wins? --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. EC > Me |
| Janus5000 | Posted 7/2/2008 2:07:38 PM | message detail |
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Shadow edges him out, but the poll gets next to no votes because they both suck. --- http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/HowDisturbing/stayawhile.jpg Stay a while and breathe me in. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/2/2008 2:07:47 PM | message detail |
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If CTDS sells a million outside of Japan, Crono's going to get an
enormous boost, and the rest of the cast will be back up to 2k3/2k4
levels. That won't happen though, so there's no reason to discuss it. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. Brawl FC: 4253-3155-6697 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/2/2008 2:49:19 PM | message detail |
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eh, if shadow is where he is in 2004, i'll take Magus. however, if
Shadow actually gained alongside with Sonic and Knuckles, Shadow. but there's no way to know. --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 7/2/2008 2:50:21 PM | message detail |
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1) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (4) Kingdom Hearts II - A squash, but about the most favorable opponent KH could hope to draw, so no harm done. (3) Final Fantasy X > (10) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask - Eh, I've been pulling for MM for a long while now, and while I still feel it's a really good wildcard entrant, it would have to be near the ceiling of its potential to knock out FFX. FF8 or 9 I'll take it over, but X is asking a little much. (1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl > (4) Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow - For an inter-company match this is actually pretty decent. Enough generations (plus handheld v console) separate these two for RBY to put up a better fight than most would suspect, I think, so this shouldn't be that bad. (2) Super Smash Bros. Melee > (6) GoldenEye - The best 4 player nostalgia of your gradeschool years is great, but when its up against the best 4 player nostalgia of your junior high/high school years, plus all the weight the SSB name brings to the table, you still get overwhelmed. (1) Super Mario Bros. 3 > (5) StarCraft - We all saw WarCraft get its face blown off only a couple weeks after it had shocked the world against GTA, but I'm here to tell you that... oh who am I kidding, the mixed bag called WW is one thing, but you can't rally your way past a beloved icon like Mario 3! Still, this is a cool setup. (2) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past > (3) Chrono Trigger - The DS remake at least makes this worth considering, but no, even with that in its back pocket I can't see CT recovering all the way to its '04 level. (1) Final Fantasy VII > (5) Super Mario 64 - Once again, we've got a squash match here, but it's the best possible kind. This is an old school N64/PSX rivalry, I'm sure the boards would break out into 100 topics on which of the games was more influential and important... and frankly I wouldn't be shocked if Mario 64 managed to pull a FF vs Mario on us here. Not THAT close, of course, but I think it's got a chance to surprise us. (2) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess > (3) Final Fantasy VI - I could see this being one of those where TP gets off to a decent start, but then FF6 comes pounding back all through the night and the wee hours and gets everyone excited before Zelda lays down the hammer when the sun comes up. Although I don't expect this to be a tight one, it will still be interesting to see how TP measures up against LttP's showing back in '04. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| trannyscience | Posted 7/2/2008 2:56:12 PM | message detail |
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if I'm not mistaken, the top 50 FAQs just changed to a top 100, and it
seems like they're tallied differently now since Diablo 3 is now in the
top 10 without any FAQs. maybe just how many times the game's homepage
was hit? I dunno, but it's kinda interesting to see what's hanging
around 51-100. --- "oh i got something to feed the starving ryoko alright and it's not a topic" -GMUN |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 7/2/2008 3:04:33 PM | message detail |
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1) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time > (3) Final Fantasy X - FFX impressed at Game of the Decade- here's its chance to prove what its really worth. Like FF6/TP, I could see X gashing OoT for percentage until the morning vote kicks in, but it should be all over soon after that happens. Like almost everything else Ocarina and FF7 have faced, this won't be close but at least the game being beaten should be able to go out on a high note. (1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl >(2) Super Smash Bros. Melee - Not going to comment as this has been debated to death. I'll just say that MGS2/MGS3, M64/SMW, Melee/Brawl are about the only three SFF matches I'd ever support, and you worked in all of them. Kudos for that. (2) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past > (1) Super Mario Bros. 3 - It seems to me that between Galaxy's good showing and his VC games/New Mario Bros. being such hits, Mario's riding a bit of a high here in 2008. That and Mario 3's iconic status should work to keep this one closer than you might expect... but in the end you don't bet against Zelda or Link when it comes to the Nintendo fanbase, so I'll continue to pick that way until someone proves otherwise. (1) Final Fantasy VII > (2) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - A here's a Game of the Decade contender trying to prove that those results WERE a fluke. TP vs FFX would be a great match, but failing that it should be cool enough just to measure them against one another based on this round. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| ZFS | Posted 7/2/2008 10:46:22 PM | message detail |
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I see MGS4 did a whole lot better in the most recent 'best game of the
year' poll. Makes sense given that the previous one came after MGS4 had
only been out for four days. 'Franchise voting' might be an
understandable way to explain the drastic increase -- and it no doubt
has the more 'hardcore' fanbase of the three games that matter -- but I
doubt that's the reason. Give these things time and what you saw there
is bound to happen, especially with a game like MGS4. It might fare
better in a game contest than I thought it would. Great showing there. Brawl didn't too look crazy here. It had some reason to jump: no Mario Kart, or any Nintendo game, and I think it recently came out in Europe. Surprised it didn't do better -- but I ain't complainin' ! --- Where there are cardboard boxes, there will always be Solid Snake. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 7/3/2008 8:42:37 AM | message detail |
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It changed to "Top 10 Games" quite a while ago, actually. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. Brawl FC: 4253-3155-6697 |
| H__RR____H | Posted 7/3/2008 11:09:26 AM | message detail |
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MGS4 is only going to go up from there, too. As the PS3 sells more,
MGS4 seems like one of those to-own games for the system like arguably
Goldeneye to the N64...and it really helps that MGS4 is bundled, too.
By the time the holiday season strikes and the PS3 gets another price
drop (assuming they drop it again this year), MGS4 might actually
compete with SSBB... ...it was just a little over two weeks old exclusively on the least popular console, and it still passed the best-reviewed most pre-ordered game of all time (on two consoles at that) and was ~10% from SSBB. Europe will definitely make sure SSBB doesn't lose, but I'm looking at MGS4 to look a lot better if the PS3 keeps picking up based on how the past two polls went. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| H__RR____H | Posted 7/3/2008 11:11:12 AM | message detail |
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Oh, and if somebody mentions franchise-voting as a way to say MGS4
won't look as good...keep in mind the GotY-polls aren't going to have
"None" as an option. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 7/3/2008 3:05:54 PM | message detail |
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Fair enough, but let's also keep in mind that franchises with hardcore
fanbases always look best in multi-way polls (ie Master Chief and the
Pokemon last year). I'll give you that MGS4 has the most room for
growth between now and the end of the year, but even if it were to
equal Brawl in a 5 or 6 way setting, I'd still be taking SSB to come
through without too much trouble when it came down to the Final Vote. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 7/4/2008 10:41:26 AM | message detail |
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Chrono Trigger DS? Interesting, athough I'm kinda disappointed it's not
getting a graphical overhaul and voice acting, like FFIVDS. I wanted to
see who would be Crono's VA! That could be what Crono needs to get him back up there, but I don't really expect Mega Man 9 to do THAT much for the Blue Bomber. I'm not sold on the effects of WiiWare and the Virtual Console. First of all, I'd expect a majority of VC sales to be of people who already liked the games but no longer own the system (especially for the NES and SNES), so it doesn't really matter. Regardless, there's no way MM9 helps Mega Man more than CTDS helps Crono, in my opinion. Also, what a lame "contest" this private board junk is. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| transience | Posted 7/4/2008 10:43:05 AM | message detail |
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my thoughts exactly - that game only appeals to previous MM fans. I mean, look at it. --- xyzzy yzzyx xyzzy yzzyx xyzzy yzzyx xyzzy yzzyx yzzyx xyzzy yzzyx xyzzy yzzyx xyzzy yzzyx xyzzy |
| voltch | Posted 7/4/2008 11:37:52 AM | message detail |
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a well marketed DS game will always have more chances of being
introduced to a newer crowd,and since there's been no contests to
measure wiiware/VC effects it's frustrating. Oh and why oh why has Bass never entered a freakin contest when he looks so badass? --- For some reason I never know what to put here. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/4/2008 1:44:12 PM | message detail |
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i guess i'd expect bass to be a mid-carder. anyway, MM9 at the least should be able to keep mega man from dropping again. --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/4/2008 3:14:56 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't expect much from Bass now. We've seen Protoman in 2004, Dr.
Wily and Sigma in 2005, and Roll in 2006...and they all face-planted in
comparison to what we hoped/figured from them. Servbot's some kind of
weird fluke from 2002, I'm sure, so I'm not counting him. Mega Man and
Zero haven't looked so impressive in recent years either, and now Mega
Man isn't even Capcom's top series here. Just saying...doesn't look pretty for Bass's chances. --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/4/2008 4:06:01 PM | message detail |
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Just for kicks: who would be the strongest Robot Master from the MM series? My guess is Metal Man. --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 7/4/2008 4:09:09 PM | message detail |
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Guts Man. Easily. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/4/2008 4:09:50 PM | message detail |
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somebody from MM1/MM2. --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 7/4/2008 4:13:25 PM | message detail |
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As for reasoning... A) He's the most whored-out RM of them all. He appears in at least 1, 2, and 7. B) Most calls ever into Nintendo Help Line were about fighting Guts Man. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 7/4/2008 7:10:47 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't take Bass to beat Protoman, so I wouldn't expect too much
from him. I'd still like to see Protoman again just to see how he can
do when he's not thrown against Zero. I think he can break the fodder
line at the very least. And Zero looked pretty good last year. He just got in way over his head in the third round, as would nearly everyone else in that situation. As for the strongest Robot Master, probably Cutman or Gutsman. Seriously, don't underestimate the strength of the Mega Man cartoon, and those two were in every episode, if I'm not mistaken! SUPER FIGHTING ROBOT! MEGA MAN! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 7/5/2008 6:51:51 AM | message detail |
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Plus, Gutsman's ass. Gutsman vs Protoman? Gutsman does have the advantage of being in the first two MM's. --- i got nuthin |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/5/2008 7:06:21 AM | message detail |
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i still wouldn't bet him being stronger than not only a playable
character but.. has more to do with the storyline in mega man games in
general. --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 7/5/2008 8:53:49 AM | message detail |
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Ehh, I couldn't see Gutsman beating Protoman or even Bass. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/5/2008 10:53:35 AM | message detail |
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Protoman VS Gutsman? We really need a REAL contest quick if we can't find anything better to talk a about. BTW: Protoman wins, with at least 80% of the votes. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. EC > Me |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 7/5/2008 10:56:35 AM | message detail |
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Well, let's talk about this! Vincent Valentine Squall Leonhart Ganondorf Sora Bowser Master Chief Auron Tifa Lockhart Princess Zelda Ryu (Post-SFIV) Rank these guys in terms of strength! Yes, we've done this several times before, but these things change all the time! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/5/2008 11:16:52 AM | message detail |
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okay... No 1: Vincent Valentine: Even if Squall did really really good last year, Vincent still managed to do even better. He's still the biggest threat to the noble nine to break it in one on one. Not sure how big his role is in Crisis Core but Vincent don't need any boost to take down the rest. No 2: Squall Leonhart Squall were always close to Sonic last year. The big question is if Sora and Snake really hurt him or not. But I still think Vincent would take him. No 3: Tifa Tifa is a wildcard, she could upset both Vincent (In some wierd way) and Squall, or she could lose to Zelda... No 4: Ganondork Zelda fans still loves this guy, personally I don't get it. Ganon is way cooler. No 5: Auron Another character I don't see why he's so popular, but even if FFX is getting older Auron will always be strong. No 6: Ryu Just like Tifa, Ryu is a wildcard. He looked weak in 2005, but in every other contest he looks like the 4th strongest character who isn't from Nintendo or Square. (He would still beat Dante) No 7: Zelda/Bowser I dunno who's stronger between these two, I guess everything from a more recent game to a picture advantage or a higher seed could make the difference between these two. No 8: Sora The face of Kingdom Hearts, his dayvote is godlike but against other popular characters he's gone. It would be interesting to see who would get the dayvote between him and Masterchief. No 9:Masterchief The format is really important for Masterchief, just compare these two polls: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2530 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2924 Yeah.... --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. EC > Me |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 7/5/2008 11:17:38 AM | message detail |
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Here's a better thing to discuss, best newcomer this year? Zack, Charizard, Squirlte or someone else? --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. EC > Me |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 7/5/2008 12:40:59 PM | message detail |
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who's Zack? --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 7/5/2008 12:56:43 PM | message detail |
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Vincent Valentine Auron Squall Leonhart Tifa Lockhart Ganondorf Princess Zelda Bowser Sora Ryu (Post-SFIV) Master Chief Quick-thoughts: ~The top four could probably go in any order. I'm taking Vincent to win out due to recently beating Crono and that he's got both FF7 and his own game. Then I've got Auron over Squall because I'll take the fan-favorite in FFX and one bad-ass role in KH2 over the lead role in FF8 and two bad-ass roles in the KH series. Tifa...could go anywhere in there, but I'll give the others the benefit of the doubt for now since we've seen them more recently (plus Tifa's last match was just crazy). ~I'd still take Zelda > Ganon head-to-head...but Zelda kinda flopped against Vincent and Ganon would have likely gone further in the bracket if it wasn't for a horrible picture. I'll take both LoZ characters over Bowser too, though he wouldn't be out of the competition by any means. ~Sora...uh, goes there. I don't have much more to say -- I would take him over MC and Ryu, but that's about it. ~I don't know why, exactly, but I think MC could impress against Ryu even after SF4 (which hardly scares me, given its lack of major hype and its poor showings in polls here). Still, Ryu should win it head-to-head. --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 7/5/2008 5:23:01 PM | message detail |
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I don't exactly understand your logic for Auron over Squall, HaRRicH.
Squall had two awesome roles in KH compared to Auron's one (and Squall
is the most visible and most important FF character in BOTH games). Is
it because you say Auron's a fan favorite? If so, I think it goes
without saying that Squall is easily
the fan favorite of FFVIII. He's been the only representative of the
game in the contests up to this point for a reason. Seifer had two
really good chances (Villains Contest and last year when he was a
Nomination Rally winner), and couldn't get in. Remember, Squall got 30% of the vote in that Favorite FFVIII Character poll with 8 characters from long ago, almost twice as much as second place, and I can imagine that he'd win by much more if you held the poll now because of KH. I understand that Auron got 40% in the Favorite FFX Character poll with one less character, which probably wouldn't amount to much, though it'd probably bring him much closer to 30%. Squall probably would've gotten closer to 40% had you removed Seifer from the poll and made it only playable characters. Is it because FFX is more recent and more popular than FFVIII? I could see why you'd lean that way if that's the case, but I really don't think FFX is that much more popular than FFVIII. After all, they're both top 20 on The List. Plus, Auron got 45% on Crono in 2006, while Vincent did that back when Crono was stronger and before Squall himself had KHII. I think everything points to Squall being stronger, to be quite honest. However, in a fourway poll, I think Auron could possibly beat Vincent and maybe even Crono, Mega Man, and Sonic. I really disliked the fact that he was stuck in Cloud's path. Yeah, strange logic, I know. As for my ranking, I suppose it'd go like this: Vincent Valentine Squall Leonhart Auron Ganondorf Tifa Lockhart Princess Zelda Bowser Sora Ryu Master Chief I'd really like to take Squall over Vincent if they matched up again, but he really doesn't have much reason to go over him, other than perhaps random variation, which is a possibility. I'd take Auron to beat Ganondorf now because of KHII, and I really think 2005 was an anomaly for both Ganon and Bowser, possibly inflated strength due to their Villains Contest success, for whatever the reason. I think Sora could take Bowser and maybe even Zelda, too, but I'll err on the side of caution. I might consider the upset if it ever happened in the contest. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 7/5/2008 5:25:27 PM | message detail |
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Not sure how big his role is in Crisis Core but Vincent don't need any boost to take down the rest. I'm pretty sure he didn't have one. And I really don't want to see Zack in the contest. Honestly, if we must have another FFVII character, it needs to be Red XIII or Cid. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| ZFS | Posted 7/5/2008 5:28:52 PM | message detail |
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Vincent Squall Auron Ganondorf Tifa Zelda Bowser Master Chief Sora Ryu --- Where there are cardboard boxes, there will always be Solid Snake. |
| redrocket | Posted 7/5/2008 5:33:24 PM | message detail |
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And I really don't want to see Zack in the contest. Honestly, if we
must have another FFVII character, it needs to be Red XIII or Cid. This x 9000 --- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 7/5/2008 6:15:15 PM | message detail |
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| redrocket | Posted 7/5/2008 6:21:35 PM | message detail |
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That list needs Mog imho. He's literally the face of FFVI in America. Arthas Factor FTW. --- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 7/5/2008 6:24:31 PM | message detail |
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Potential Newcomers!" not including SSBB characters since we've already
done that. Uhhh...Who's not been in who's worth discussing? Well, I
guess I could include Diddy Kong since he was a Nomination Rally winner. Seifer Almasy Diddy Kong Bahamut Gilgamesh Yoshimitsu Falco Lombardi Guile Locke Cole Edgar Figaro Shadow (FFVI) Robo Gray Fox Laguna Loire Rinoa Heartilly Mog I looked at the Nomination Rally Tournament bracket from last year to see who was there. I found it very amusing to see that Zelos Wilder beat Ike in that one. Looking at it...21 of the characters in the Nomination Rally Tournament made it into the contest last year, and 17 of the 32 characters in the Returners Tournament made it in, too. Reposted to add Mog. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| Yesmar | Posted 7/5/2008 7:01:28 PM | message detail |
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Squall Leonhart Vincent Valentine -For some reason I see a drop in FFVII's popularity coming in the next contest, leading towards Squall squeaking ahead of him in this department. Random variability alone could lead towards this as well. Ganondorf -I see him, and OoT dropping off a bit next year as well, but I still think he can pull it out over Auron in a squeaker. Plus I'm not sure that I entirely agree with Leon's theory on him overperforming due to the Villains Contest. What about his performance in 2006 then? It possibly could have been TP hype, but he still managed to get almost 50% in his match this past year as well. Auron -It seems that all the other characters who got boosts from KHII in 2006 have dropped off somewhat, so I would expect him to as well. How big is his role in the game anyway? Tifa Lockhart -I see her dropping off somewhat for my aforestated reasons, but this seems like a good enough spot for her. Princess Zelda Bowser -Meh. Good enough Sora -Out of all the characters who boosted in 2006 from KHII he seems to have the most reason to stay as popular, since the game has apparently changed his personality a lot to the better. Master Chief Ryu (Post-SFIV) This is who I'd rank these two if a match happened today. Based on how the 360's fortunes go during the upcoming year and if antivotes return again, they could easily be switched. --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 7/5/2008 8:17:08 PM | message detail |
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What about his performance in 2006 then? What about it? He didn't seem as strong in 2006 as he did in 2005. How easily he beat Auron still seems very strange to me. Makes absolutely no sense in my mind. He's barely projected to beat Auron in 2006, he's behind Squall, and he's practically dead even with Sora. It seems that all the other characters who got boosts from KHII in 2006 have dropped off somewhat I'm not entirely sure what your reasoning for this is. Squall looked great against Sonic twice, and before running into Cloud, Auron was dominant. Seriously, how badly he beat Ryu and Bowser in the second round was amazing, and he almost beat Ryu in the third round even with major SFF from Cloud. Besides, the format doesn't tell us squat anyway. And Auron's role in KHII is a good one, as he's a member of your party in the Hercules world. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| Yesmar | Posted 7/5/2008 8:35:34 PM | message detail |
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He didn't seem as strong in 2006 as he did in 2005. 2006 Ganondorf is projected to be stronger than 2005 Ganondorf, I think. The stats I'm looking at seem a bit weird in a couple other areas, but I think that this part is correct. Squall looked great against Sonic twice, and before running into Cloud, Auron was dominant. Fair enough. Although Sora and Riku both seemed less popular to me, though. Oh, and I was never considering Squall as a character who got a KHII boost, since he didn't appear to have received one. My mistake for not mentioning it earlier. --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 7/5/2008 8:39:52 PM | message detail |
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the 2006 stats give because they're basically educated guesses, and I
don't trust anything the 2007 contest says, for obvious reasons. We didn't really get a fair chance to see if Squall got a KHII boost, honestly. He had a SFF beatdown against Tidus and then he ran into the Solid Snake buzzsaw. He probably was stronger because he maintained pace with Vincent, who had Dirge of Cerberus, and he was closer to the Noble Nine than he had ever been. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 7/5/2008 9:32:49 PM | message detail |
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Oh wait, Squall will have Dissidia! Noble Nine breaker confirmed! ...Or not. It'll probably sell well, but PSP ownership isn't exactly high here. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| ZFS | Posted 7/5/2008 9:36:21 PM | message detail |
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Ha, Dissidia. That game will be so bad. --- Where there are cardboard boxes, there will always be Solid Snake. |
| voltch | Posted 7/6/2008 2:20:30 AM | message detail |
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Vincent Valentine Squall Leonhart Tifa Lockhart Ganondorf Auron Bowser Ryu Sora Princess Zelda Master Chief You always expect MC to do well because of the amount of publicity his games get and how he is the Xbox mascot and he performs badly when we think he should do well and he does surprisingly well when we think he should get crushed. But looking back on each of the Noble Nine's reasons to boost this year one thing keeps bugging me. How come Samus is a noble niner?Her games are certainly popular but they aren't on the same level as Mario and Link,her character isn't the most recognisable,i mean Sonic represents Sega and Megaman's franchise make him very recognisable too. If it's because of the smash games then why her and not say Fox or Falcon? I just don't understand how she managed to get so much contest strength ,her games weren't too strong in the games/series contests either,at least Chrono Trigger did well in the games contest and came third in the top ten games so Crono's popularity here is understandable. If I was being perfectly honest if I was new to gamefaqs then I wouldn't expect Samus to be a Noble niner and yet she's somehow right in the middle of it and separates the upper tier from the lower league. --- For some reason I never know what to put here. |
