GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 550
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 6/27/2008 5:06:41 PM | message detail |
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The biggest travesty of the SSE is that it exists. Ulti may be wrong about Brawl being a bad game, but he's spot on with this. SSE is HORRIBLE. --- ~*ExTha Gon Give it to Ya.~ **** what you heard. It's what you hearin'. Thank you, Pens. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/27/2008 5:19:45 PM | message detail |
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SSE's level are typically below average, but the cutscenes rule and there are some levels that are fine too. --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/27/2008 5:31:38 PM | message detail |
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Probably worth a repost considering the bracket, Game of the Century (so far) 2001: Final Fantasy X 24.75% 27768 2002: Metroid Prime 6.3% 7068 2003: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 4.52% 5070 2004: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 13.95% 15646 2005: Resident Evil 4 18.22% 20435 2006: Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 16.86% 18910 2007: Super Mario Galaxy 15.4% 17279 TOTAL VOTES 112176 Yes, Galaxy did hang in there well, but taking into consideration the 4% TP was bleeding to WW and that Galaxy was coming into the poll high off its GotY victory, I'd still feel confident in my TP > Mario 3 pick. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/27/2008 5:35:33 PM | message detail |
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I certainly don't think that if you forget 2003 happened Twilight
Princess is at 21.38%. And, again, while I think Galaxy would do quite
well (shame on Leon for not including it!) SMB3 should be stronger and
probably not by a small margin. --- Mustache...and green... |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/27/2008 5:52:24 PM | message detail |
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<3 the correct game winning that poll. Rock on FFX! ~*ST*~ --- http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb285/nekdolan/02.gif Now Playing: FF12, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Crisis Core |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/27/2008 5:57:09 PM | message detail |
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Actually, if we want to talk about SSBB, let's do this! (1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl (16) World of Warcraft Brawl wins, but might underperform and get labeled as "impending doom lol" by the stats topic and its disease of projecting entire contests based upon 3 minutes of the opening match. Damn you, x-stats. (8) Final Fantasy VI (9) Resident Evil 4 Good-looking match on paper, but RE4 would never go toe to toe with LTTP for 6 hours. (5) Metal Gear Solid (12) Halo: Combat Evolved Halo fans are quick to SFF their series for other stuff, like Castlevania. MGS could kill it. (4) GoldenEye (13) Final Fantasy X EVIL match, Leon. ****in' evil. We have no clue where Goldeneye's strength really is, but I could never see Goldeneye getting within 2000 votes of SSBM. (6) Chrono Trigger (11) Grand Theft Auto IV rofl (3) Super Mario Bros. 3 (14) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker ROFL (7) Final Fantasy Tactics (10) Metroid Prime Just a gut pick, because I think MGS > MP (2) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (15) StarCraft Not a chance. ~*ST*~ --- http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb285/nekdolan/02.gif Now Playing: FF12, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Crisis Core |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/27/2008 6:00:49 PM | message detail |
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(1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl (8) Final Fantasy VI If it can't beat LTTP, it's not beating Brawl. (5) Metal Gear Solid (13) Final Fantasy X FFX > FFT in strength, I think. (6) Chrono Trigger (3) Super Mario Bros. 3 Chrono Trigger drops year by year. I doubt it wins a rematch, and I've called every collapse since Knuckles > Magus. And yes, Vincent broke the Noble Nine last year. Shut up, stat-obsessed people. (7) Final Fantasy Tactics (2) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess No faith in FFT pulling that one off. ~*ST*~ --- http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb285/nekdolan/02.gif Now Playing: FF12, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Crisis Core |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/27/2008 6:02:25 PM | message detail |
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(1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl (13) Final Fantasy X (3) Super Mario Bros. 3 (2) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Evil fourpack, but I think Brawl > Mario 3. No real explanation why, just gut instinct. ~*ST*~ --- http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb285/nekdolan/02.gif Now Playing: FF12, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Crisis Core |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/27/2008 6:16:32 PM | message detail |
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yup, it's not any contest we know. i hope he's not replacing them with... this. --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/27/2008 6:52:19 PM | message detail |
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Fine, I'll do this. (1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl (16) World of Warcraft Let's not kid ourselves here: if the Warcraft series pulled a huge upset by barely beating the GTA series, WoW won't stand a chance against SSBB. It might impress, but...not likely. (8) Final Fantasy VI (9) Resident Evil 4 I think switching RE4 with FFX would have been pure sex for this bracket. Still a close match, but I think FF3/6 is a bit above RE4 and FFX is a bit above its four-pack. (5) Metal Gear Solid (12) Halo: Combat Evolved I don't think seeing the Halo series lose to the CV series is proof that MGS would SFF Halo; I think that just sounds silly, honestly. As is though...this wouldn't be in question. Halo 2 would have been better in my opinion, but they'd be similar enough to where it doesn't TRULY matter. (4) GoldenEye (13) Final Fantasy X GE would do great in a contest, especially afew years ago if it didn't have to face LoZ:OoT...and I know GE outranked FFX in the Top 100 List. As is though, between the franchise-voting, keeping so close with SSBM, and many people feeling GE didn't age so well...I'll trust FFX on this one. RE4 would have been a fantastic opponent here, too. (6) Chrono Trigger (11) Grand Theft Auto IV I'd rather see FFT here for the sake of two Square titles from different series...but there's not really a really good spot for GTA4 here without really shaking up the bracket-placement. Hmmm. (3) Super Mario Bros. 3 (14) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker I laughed. SMG would be better here for multiple reasons, though it would still be interesting to see how LoZ:WW would hold up against a classic. (7) Final Fantasy Tactics (10) Metroid Prime FFT keeping even with MGS still stays in my head...while MP losing to LoZ:WW does too. It would be close though. (2) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (15) StarCraft Nice try! --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/27/2008 7:18:28 PM | message detail |
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(1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl (8) Final Fantasy VI I'll go for the hype here. Heavy favorite for GotY this year, big play-rate, highly hyped, generally considered the best of its series, Nintendo's getting into the swing again, and FF3/6's stock just keeps dropping...it's still so new, but I'll bite. (5) Metal Gear Solid (13) Final Fantasy X It was well ahead of MGS2 four years ago against SSBM, franchise votes, FFX probably stood the test of time better...gotta do it. (6) Chrono Trigger (3) Super Mario Bros. 3 It was close four years ago, and we've seen both Nintendo and Mario get back into the limelight since then...CT keeps dropping too while SMB3's playrate stays high. I'll take the side-scroller. (7) Final Fantasy Tactics (2) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Wind Waker or Majora's Mask would have been better for FFT. (1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl (13) Final Fantasy X I've taken SSBB > FF3/6 already...may as well! (3) Super Mario Bros. 3 (2) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess I don't believe LoZ:TP is on that same plane. LoZ:LttP barely is...and I won't argue that SMB3/LoZ:TP aren't indirectly close. I just think SMB3 will be higher, plus in terms of SFF I'll give the edge to one of Nintendo's three biggest classic games over the latest LoZ game. The VC-numbers are nice, too. (1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl (3) Super Mario Bros. 3 Would it be fair to say these are Nintendo's two single most hyped games to date? Either way, this one's CLOSE and I would fully expect a hhuuuuggee swing in the votes during this. I've been a big proponent of SSBM > SMB3 though, and SSBB's been out long enough to convince me it'd beat SSBM now. I'm not taking SSBB over FF7, LoZ:OoT, or LoZ:LttP though. --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 6/27/2008 7:33:34 PM | message detail |
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Just the pure hype and the overall positive reaction concerning Brawl
makes me confident that it's at least the third-strongest game on the
site after FF7 and OoT, and potentially even stronger. I'd like to see Brawl VS OoT on one semifinal, and FF7 vs SMB3 or whatever on the other. Or better yet, I'd love to see OoT and FF7 not even make it that far and get blasted by other games, but that's not going to happen. --- i got nuthin |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/27/2008 7:35:22 PM | message detail |
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I've called every collapse since Knuckles > Magus. And yes,
Vincent broke the Noble Nine last year. Shut up, stat-obsessed people. I called Vincent > Crono too, and you can't fairly say the Noble Nine's broken for reasons we've told you and you haven't responded to before. That's a BT-type of comment, Ulti. --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/27/2008 7:41:34 PM | message detail |
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man, i guess SSB vs Mario Bros spooked a lot of you guys, huh? --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| Yesmar | Posted 6/27/2008 7:57:19 PM | message detail |
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Agh. Another Ask GameFAQS goes by with no word of a contest. I mean
clearly Bacon can't be too swamped, or he wouldn't take the time to set
this other contest up. Does he not realize that having the contest in
the summer would be a lot better for the site as well? --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/27/2008 9:03:43 PM | message detail |
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Argh, I would have included Galaxy had I not forgotten about it. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/27/2008 9:06:45 PM | message detail |
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From HaRRicH Posted 6/27/2008 10:35:22 PM #213 I've called every collapse since Knuckles > Magus. And yes, Vincent broke the Noble Nine last year. Shut up, stat-obsessed people. I called Vincent > Crono too, and you can't fairly say the Noble Nine's broken for reasons we've told you and you haven't responded to before. That's a BT-type of comment, Ulti. I'd pick Vincent over Crono 1 on 1, and he would have won were it heads-up. Only x-stat loyalists defending obsolete-for-three-years nonsense deny this. The format had nothing to do with Crono choking, and if anything it should have HELPED him. L-Block is completely irrelevant, because the entire internet was rallying for it by the end. Vincent was completely legitimate. ~*ST*~ --- http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb285/nekdolan/02.gif Now Playing: FF12, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Crisis Core |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/27/2008 9:08:46 PM | message detail |
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I'm confident if Vincent/Crono were in a bracket this year, Vincent
would be the favorite, and I'd be confident that he'd win, but it still
doesn't matter. It hasn't happened, and therefore, the Noble Nine still stands. Honestly, there were probably a handful of characters that could've beaten Snake in 2004 when he had what is arguably the worst year a Noble Niner has ever had, but that didn't matter. He didn't lose one-on-one. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/27/2008 9:11:05 PM | message detail |
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Crap, I didn't save my crew writeup for that match. It was my best
correct rant since Halo/Starcraft. Pretty much every trend other than
X-Stats pointed to Crono choking that match away, and you know how much
I love LOLING X-STATS. ~*ST*~ --- http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb285/nekdolan/02.gif Now Playing: FF12, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Crisis Core |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/27/2008 9:14:48 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, and "LOL XSTATS" is the worst thing you have ever contributed to
these boards because it's the single most obnoxious thing I've ever
seen here. And I've seen some obnoxious things. Also, don't give me any crap about how "every trend except the stats predicted this!" If Crono hadn't stunk it up in 2006, no one would've bothered picking Vincent, and the fact that he was so close to him in 2006 gave people reason to believe he could do it. Crono wasn't the favorite because of stats. Crono was the favorite because of the Noble Nine. Vincent could've finished ABOVE Crono in 2006, and Crono still would've been the favorite in 2007. It's the same thing that happened to Snake in 2005. He had a horrible year in 2004, and yet he was the board favorite to go to the Final Four because he's Noble Nine. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| UItimaterializer | Posted 6/27/2008 9:28:13 PM | message detail |
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Crono wasn't the only thing. Magus and Frog are both on the drastic
path downward, and Frog only wins because of flagrant, unpunished vote
stuffing in all his matches. The script that got passed around last
year was ungodly pathetic, and to this day I don't get what people see
in him. Actually wait, he sits in a hole all day and wants everyone else to do all the work. I get it now! <_< ~*ST*~ --- http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb285/nekdolan/02.gif Now Playing: FF12, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Crisis Core |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/27/2008 9:32:12 PM | message detail |
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Frog's got an awesome sprite, awesome theme, and some cool moments. And he wants to kill Magus. That's enough for me. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/27/2008 9:35:37 PM | message detail |
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Best use of Frog's Theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QDJ00jWMRE ~*ST*~ --- http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb285/nekdolan/02.gif Now Playing: FF12, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Crisis Core |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/28/2008 1:09:16 AM | message detail |
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I'd pick Vincent over Crono 1 on 1, and he would have won were it
heads-up. Only x-stat loyalists defending obsolete-for-three-years
nonsense deny this. The format had nothing to do with Crono choking,
and if anything it should have HELPED him. I'd pick Vinny to beat Crono one-on-one this year too (and have said I would this year since last year), but I wouldn't have taken Vincent > Crono one-on-one last year. I don't think it's fair to say we're x-stat loyalists because Crono cleanly beat him two years before. Also, though the format should have helped Crono, it should have for Vincent too...and the match in question was NOT in favor of Crono. Vincent's a fan-favorite from the site's foundation, plus he had a recent spin-off game...then with two other characters that made huge names for themselves on the SNES (Link and Zero), that was completely legit reasoning to think the format for that match wouldn't be so kind to Crono. L-Block is completely irrelevant, because the entire internet was rallying for it by the end. Vincent was completely legit. Vincent legitimately beat Crono last year, yes. You just seem hell-bent on calling it over when Crono didn't lose what he was known for: a winning streak of one-on-one matches against non-NN'ers. I'm sure a lot of baseball players could say they beat Michael Jordan the two years he played baseball...but do you wanna say that puts an end to his legacy? No, because he was an icon where few-to-no others could beat him: basketball. Same logic applies; last year was essentially a different sport for competition. Yeah, and "LOL XSTATS" is the worst thing you have ever contributed to these boards because it's the single most obnoxious thing I've ever seen here. Truth. --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/28/2008 8:46:08 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, and "LOL XSTATS" is the worst thing you have ever contributed
to these boards because it's the single most obnoxious thing I've ever
seen here. Truth. There's a reason everybody ignores BT and it's not because he's an idiot, it's because he's a jackass. Stop with the trolling. --- Mustache...and green... |
| Yesmar | Posted 6/28/2008 8:57:51 AM | message detail |
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And how is The Noble Nine an "lol X STATS" thing anyway? If you went by
the X-Stats the Noble 9 would NOT have been the 9 strongest characters
in some of the contests. --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| Yesmar | Posted 6/28/2008 9:51:40 AM | message detail |
| OK. Here's something that I've been working on in
spurts since the last contest, and hopefully people can find useful.
Last contest I took RPguy's framework for calculating hourly updates
for 2007, and used it for some of the matches in that contest, but then
I modified it for just one on one and used it to calculate percentages
for matches in other contests that I found interesting as well. I then
decided to try to go through every match in 2005 and get hourly updates
for all of them. I haven't done this with any set schedule, so I'm only
up to Vincent/Squall, but I thought that people would find this
interesting and I might as well post what I have so far. Some matches
have Mass Difference/Vote Differential/Vote Shift at the bottom which
is the difference between the two most extreme hourly updates. If
there's no two numbers listed there it's because the initial hour of
the poll was one of the extremes and I didn't want to include just that
number, since it's bound to be wonky. Here's a link to an upload of the .txt file I saved everything in: http://www.uploading.com/files/9AXS4UWG/Vote_Updates.txt.html and here's the board where I'll try to post as many of these updates as I can remember too: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=572228&topic=43938411 Hopefully people will find this interesting. Yeah, I know that DK/DH seems messed up in the last hour. I must have typed something in wrong. --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/28/2008 4:29:05 PM | message detail |
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So...if we get a new Game Contest, what matches would ya most want to see? Are there any rematches you would want to see? --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/28/2008 4:32:49 PM | message detail |
| I'd like to see Halo, Wind Waker, and Final
Fantasy X all in a fourpack somewhere. I think a match with any of
those three would be interesting. You can throw in...Super Mario 64 or
Super Mario World for good measure. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| nintendogirl1 | Posted 6/28/2008 4:46:31 PM | message detail |
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I wanna see LTTP/Brawl. I honestly don't know where I'd side. --- That's the extent of my Brawlfear. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/28/2008 5:00:53 PM | message detail |
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Well, you gotta have LoZ:WW/Halo thanks to both Starcraft and the overwhelming likelihood that FFX would beat both. I think we've all agreed that MGS/Goldeneye/SM64 would be hotly contested since 2004. However, I would be very comfortable seeing them face RE4, GTA4, or FF8 too. Any one-on-one match or four-pack involving them in some way would be excellent. As for rematches...SMB3/CT and FF7/LoZ:OoT are all I really want. I'd like to see another game clearly beat SF2 too as long as it caused similar controversy. I'm thinking GTA:VC, Halo 3, or something else that would raise hell. --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/28/2008 5:24:14 PM | message detail |
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I just want to see FFVIII in the contest at all, as long as Bacon
doesn't do something stupid like put it against FFVII right away. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/28/2008 5:35:46 PM | message detail |
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That's very cool Yesmar. From the data you've gathered so far, do we
have enough info to know the Top 25 Voter Shifts, in 1v1 matches only?
If you'd be able to put that together, it's something I'd love to get
up on the wiki. I've been meaning to do that and also the Top 25
Comebacks for a long while now. Game Contest must-sees? Well the only rematches I'd want to see set up would be LttP/CT Mario 3/CT Ocarina/FF7 Frankly I'd rather not see StarCraft try and fail to re-produce its magical run... let it go against new competition and possibly pull some surprises, because between the Xbox's huge growth since 2004 and the increased vote totals, I don't see it being able to hang with Halo or Zelda these days. Maybe once SCII gets close to release and people get hyped for the series, but not now. And even though FFX has aged very well, Melee has aged even better, so I wouldn't want to see that re-run either. For new matches, GE/MGS is of course a must, and beyond that as long as a bracket were full of interesting clashes between old well-regarded games with diehard fanbases and new hyped games with rabid fanbases, it would make for an awesome experience. Something more in regards to that extremely strange GTA/WarCraft result might be worth a setup though. How about like... World of WarCraft vs Grand Theft Auto IV? --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/28/2008 6:45:04 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't mind seeing FFX/SSBM at some point as long as the picture is
balanced. Seriously, that was the most unfair picture ever. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/28/2008 7:24:42 PM | message detail |
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Haha, only if that pic was twice its size. As is, when the two
characters I immediately recognize are Kirby and Pikachu, that's not a
bad pic disadvantage for Tidus... ...then again, they've each beaten Tidus in recent years. More seriously, Auron should have been in Tidus's place, but I don't think it was a bad pic disadvantage. I thought GTA:VC had it worse with Vercetti against a clear shot of Mario. --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/28/2008 7:35:06 PM | message detail |
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A big shot of Tidus against the entire cast of Smash Bros. is a better advantage than Mario/Vercetti one-on-one? That's just ridiculous. It doesn't matter which characters in that picture stand out. The fact is that it's every single one of them against Tidus. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/28/2008 7:36:31 PM | message detail |
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Let's try this... Hyrule Division (1) The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time (16) Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out! (8) Sonic 3 & Knuckles (9) Street Fighter II (5) Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (12) Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (4) Kingdom Hearts II (13) Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (6) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (11) God of War (3) Final Fantasy X (14) Mortal Kombat II (7) Final Fantasy VIII (10) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask (2) Halo: Combat Evolved (15) Call of Duty 4 Subspace Emissary Division (1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl (16) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (8) Final Fantasy Tactics (9) Diablo II (5) Super Metroid (12) Final Fantasy IX (4) Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (13) Mega Man X (6) GoldenEye (11) Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy’s Kong Quest (3) Metal Gear Solid (14) Splinter Cell (7) Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (10) Super Mario Bros. (2) Super Smash Bros. Melee (15) Tecmo Super Bowl Kuribo's Shoe Division (1) Super Mario Bros. 3 (16) Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (8) Half-Life 2 (9) Soul Calibur (5) StarCraft (12) Doom (4) Grand Theft Auto IV (13) World of Warcraft (6) Super Mario Galaxy (11) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (3) Chrono Trigger (14) Mario Kart 64 (7) Resident Evil 4 (10) Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (2) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (15) Earthbound Omnislash Division (1) Final Fantasy VII (16) Animal Crossing (8) Star Fox 64 (9) Mega Man 2 (5) Super Mario 64 (12) Xenogears (4) Super Mario World (13) Tales of Symphonia (6) The Legend of Zelda (11) Chrono Cross (3) Final Fantasy VI (14) Devil May Cry (7) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (10) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (2) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (15) Skies of Arcadia --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/28/2008 7:37:10 PM | message detail |
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It's a matter of clarity; we're probably just going to agree to disagree on this issue. --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/28/2008 7:39:57 PM | message detail |
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The picture's plenty clear enough to recognize that it's the entire cast of Melee against Tidus. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/28/2008 7:45:47 PM | message detail |
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If you're going to squint at the picture long enough to notice that
Marth is in it, you might have enough time to read the text which says
that it's a match with Final Fantasy X rather than Tidus. --- Mustache...and green... |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/28/2008 7:46:26 PM | message detail |
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(2) Halo: Combat Evolved (15) Call of Duty 4 (5) Super Metroid (4) Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow I like a lot of the bracket, but these two strike me as the best new/original match-ups in it. Both of those could be very fun. --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/28/2008 7:58:57 PM | message detail |
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Fine, fine. Since you guys are one of the few groups of people I
actually like around here, I'll keep LOL, X-STATS out of the stats
topic. But everywhere else, fair game. From HaRRicH Posted 6/28/2008 10:46:26 PM #241 (2) Halo: Combat Evolved (15) Call of Duty 4 (5) Super Metroid (4) Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow I like a lot of the bracket, but these two strike me as the best new/original match-ups in it. Both of those could be very fun. I guess, but I'd pick Pokemon > Halo without thinking too hard. Metroid isn't respected very much (god only effing knows why), and Pokemon will be a BEAST if there's ever another games contest. I don't think Pikachu's run last year was a fluke. ~*ST*~ --- http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb285/nekdolan/02.gif Now Playing: FF12, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Crisis Core |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/28/2008 8:51:13 PM | message detail |
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Ooooh, a full bracket. (1) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time > (16) Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out! - Punch Out is fun fodder, but I'd rather see this Nintendo classic be fed to something outside of the company so it could put up the best fight. (9) Street Fighter II > (8) Sonic 3 & Knuckles - Ehh, SFII is most hilarious when it loses to something newer and less respected. Still, this should be a very good match, highlighted by what's sure to be one of the biggest Night Vote vs Sonic Day Vote swings we've ever seen. I'll back SFII just on the strength of being fresh thanks to SF4 at the moment. (5) Castlevania: Symphony of the Night > (12) Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - Wow, should be another nailbiter with another huge day/night swing, but I'll back SotN for staying more recent with its XBLA re-release. (4) Kingdom Hearts II > (13) Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - Will be interesting to see FE in action to see if it could live up to its solid Series performance, and this is a good opponent for it. (6) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker > (11) God of War - Again, I'd prefer to see WW dumped in favor of MM or even Zelda 1, but still this is good for a R1er, and GoW should have a chance to perform well. (3) Final Fantasy X > (14) Mortal Kombat II - Will probably go much like MK's 2004 matchup. (10) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask > (7) Final Fantasy VIII - ...whoa, you DID slip MM in! And what a match! Normally I'd say it's a shame for one of the two biggest wildcard snubs to go out in R1, but with a battle as intense as this one should be I have to forgive it. Taking MM just on the basis of how you don't bet against Zelda in a tight matchup, but I could see how FF8 would be favored in most people's eyes. (2) Halo: Combat Evolved > (15) Call of Duty 4 - Excellent matchup. Yes, it's Microsoft FPS against Microsoft FPS, but with these two games being separated by 7 years the SFF should be minimal. And actually the last series of GotYs showed that CoD4 can stand up to SFF even within the generation. Between that and the strong sales and all the anti-voting Halo is sure to get, this could be a surprisingly close battle. But I'm backing Halo on the basis of how effectively it was able to rally back against SC. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/28/2008 8:51:38 PM | message detail |
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(1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl > (16) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - Eh, KotR probably deserves a little better than a fodder position, but this is still a good matchup for it, so no complaints here. (8) Final Fantasy Tactics > (9) Diablo II - Wow, I love this. Sure, Diablo bombed in the Series Contest, but it was clearly in a no-win situation where no amount of rallying was going to save it. That won't be the case here, and between its dedicated fanbase and DIII excitement it should be able to keep this one interesting... but the FFT series has managed to keep itself fresh enough where I won't pick against it here. (5) Super Metroid > (12) Final Fantasy IX - Really good whenever Metroid gets a chance to prove itself outside of Nintendo's shadow. I think it will do so here against the ugly duckling of the modern FFs, though I doubt it will be an easy win. (4) Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow > (13) Mega Man X - Yikes! Both MMs looked very solid in the Series, and MMX's recent win over regular MM has me seriously considering this upset... but no, I've got to stick with the R/B/Y nostalgia factor that I've been hyping up for so long now. (6) GoldenEye > (11) Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy’s Kong Quest - Bah, I know the DKC series isn't going to be a powerhouse, but I still wish a spot could have been found for it outside of this fixture, where a stronger Nintendo game from only a couple years later with better sales and even more of a nostalgia trip is sure to send it down to a hard defeat. (3) Metal Gear Solid > (14) Splinter Cell - Haha, funny squash match. I don't see any need to have SCell in the bracket at all, really, but if it has to be here this is a good spot for it. (10) Super Mario Bros. > (7) Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - I've long been a proponent of keeping Mario 1 out in favor of the more interesting (in my mind) SMW or Mario 64 or Galaxy, but if the original does make it into the bracket this would be the perfect matchup for it. Talk about a clash of the opposites... imagine if SA were able to keep it close for even a little while; the uproar across the site would be legendary! (2) Super Smash Bros. Melee > (15) Tecmo Super Bowl - Another Nintendo classic and excellent choice for a fodder match, but again, I wish a position could have been found for it away from a Nintendo giant. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/28/2008 8:54:36 PM | message detail |
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(1) Super Mario Bros. 3 > (16) Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time - Ahh, here's a case of very good fodder AND placement where it will have a chance to make a good show of things. Bravo. (8) Half-Life 2 > (9) Soul Calibur - We have to have SCalibur back in the bracket just to understand what in the heck went on in that wacky KH match. Are people really pumped enough about the series for it to make a game of this, though? I don't hear much excitement about SCal4 from where I stand, so I'm betting no. (5) StarCraft > (12) Doom - Cool matchup. Even though I don't expect to see SC back at its 2004 levels, I'm not seeing Doom contending here, but even so this battle of the PC classics should be an entertaining watch. (4) Grand Theft Auto IV > (13) World of Warcraft - Oh ho, there's my matchup! This would be such a crazy event if it were to take place... it's like the ultimate case of small but hugely dedicated fanbase against enormous but hugely casual fanbase. GTA would come in as a big favorite I'm sure, but look how much good that did it back in 2004. Anything could happen in this one, but I'm going to hope the 2nd time's the charm and once again roll the dice on GTA here. (6) Super Mario Galaxy > (11) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City - Between the fantastic sales and the glowing reviews, I think GTA4 has cemented itself as the strongest entrant from the series, and so I'm not seeing a need for GTA to be represented anywhere else in the bracket. But then I see these incredible matchups you keep creating with these GTAs, and I'm won over! SMG should never be seriously threatened here, but this is a good setup regardless. (3) Chrono Trigger > (14) Mario Kart 64 - Hm... I think this topic in general underestimates the kind of punch the N64's 4-player multi classics (GE, MK64, SSB if it were to make it, F-Zero X to a lesser extent) are going to pack in a sitewide Contest. MK64's 4th place position on the all-time VC sales list speaks to that theory as well, in my estimation, and so I'm not pleased with it being buried back at 14. That being said, this is a good opponent for the game, so I can't be too upset. (7) Resident Evil 4 > (10) Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - Hmm... Mario RPG probably won't be as strong as we saw back in '04 (at least not before the VC re-release, but hopefully that will be coming next month) , but still, it's Square and Nintendo combined, and deserves better than the beating this GotY is sure to apply. Not a bad matchup per se, I just think it could have been better. (2) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past > (15) Earthbound - Ehh, if EB needs to be squashed by a fellow SNES classic, couldn't we at least send it against FF3/6 to settle that age-old debate once and for all? I know EB isn't much above the fodder line, and a 15 seed seems about right given how stacked this bracket is, but again I wish it could avoid a Nintendo titan. |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/28/2008 8:54:50 PM | message detail |
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(1) Final Fantasy VII > (16) Animal Crossing - Hoho, this bracket is just full of Ngamer-inspired matchups! This is really good fodder placed into a really good fixture- nothing more could be asked for. (8) Star Fox 64 > (9) Mega Man 2 - Excellent work- two Nintendo midcarders that would be sure to crumble against any Big N powerhouse, so the spot under FF7 is the perfect place for this battle. And what a battle it should be... again, I'm of the opinion that N64 nostalgia is going to be pulling no punches in the upcoming season, so I'll side with SF64 here, but really this looks like a coinflip to me. (5) Super Mario 64 > (12) Xenogears - Not seeing a huge need to bring Xenogears back, but if its going to happen, this would be a very good spot for it. (4) Super Mario World > (13) Tales of Symphonia - Normally I don't like lower tier Nintendo titles being fed to their vast superiors, but I hate ToS so much for all of the perfectly good Character slots it has wasted over the years that I fully support this setup, and look forward to the slaughtering SMW would apply. (6) The Legend of Zelda > (11) Chrono Cross - Not seeing any need to bring Chrono Cross into the picture in light of how badly Serge bombed and how the game acted like an anchor around CT's neck in 2006, keeping Chrono out of the series contest despite being the third most popular game on the site. But, eh, this is a good enough setup if it did have to make the cut. (3) Final Fantasy VI > (14) Devil May Cry - Should be decently interesting, and I agree that DMC1 is the best representation for the series, but even with FF6 sure to have slipped from 2004 I can't possibly see it having slipped this far. (10) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty > (7) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater - Oh wow! Was wondering when these two were going to show up, and here they are together. 90% of the time I'm strongly opposed to inter-series battles, but this is one of those rare exceptions, and I've seen people swearing up and down that MGS3 would be stronger for a few years now, yet it seems just as many swear the opposite. Personally I feel the order goes 1 > 2 > 3 with all of them being close (and I have no idea where 4 sits), but I wouldn't be upset if this match proved me wrong. (2) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess > (15) Skies of Arcadia - Good fodder, and in a good position. Great work on this whole first round! --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 6/28/2008 9:01:09 PM | message detail |
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Oh man, Pikachu's run. If it weren't for L-Block, Pikachu would've had
the most awesome run in the contest. I just love how someone who had a
close match with Parappa the Rapper five years ago and was a debated second against Serge
ended up beating Tidus and making it all the way to the quarterfinals,
even getting first against Dante and Leon at one point, granted against
Capcom SFF. One of my favorite runs in contest history. Also loved Luigi > Ganondorf. Yeah, I think 2k7's my favorite contest of all time, even without L-Block. --- i got nuthin |
| The_Ocelot2 | Posted 6/28/2008 9:05:01 PM | message detail |
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- Excellent matchup. Yes, it's Microsoft FPS against Microsoft FPS,
but with these two games being separated by 7 years the SFF should be
minimal. Call of Duty 4 is also on PS3 and PC which might make the match pretty close. --- Go Ducks Go! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/28/2008 9:33:27 PM | message detail |
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If you're going to squint at the picture long enough to notice that
Marth is in it, you might have enough time to read the text which says
that it's a match with Final Fantasy X rather than Tidus. You know, you could say that about ANY match where we think the picture made a difference. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." |
| Yesmar | Posted 6/28/2008 9:50:56 PM | message detail |
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From the data you've gathered so far, do we have enough info to know the Top 25 Voter Shifts, in 1v1 matches only? I don't have enough info for that, since the matches I've entered for other years is limited so far. I think the largest that I've noted so far is Kefka Vs. Vercetti, but that's taking into account Vercetti's extremely suspect final hour where he got over 60% of the vote. Aside from that Crono/Master Chief is the largest so far (55-70%), with Master Chief in his second match this year, DK/Duck Hunt, and Bowser/Chun-Li (????) up there as well. --- You need to meet someone at a garden, or a movie or something. Somewhere classy. Like a cooking recipe message board or something.--True Godhand/Curt |
