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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 550

voltch | Posted 6/20/2008 2:38:28 PM | message detail
I wonder who's the strongest NPC,non-boss character in MGS.
Campbell?(if you discount the chicken fox in MGS:PO+,Otacon?,Mei Ling?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/20/2008 3:05:57 PM | message detail
Probably Otacon, but I still wouldn't want to see him anywhere near a contest.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/20/2008 3:20:53 PM | message detail
I wonder who's the strongest NPC,non-boss character in MGS.
Campbell?(if you discount the chicken fox in MGS:PO+,Otacon?,Mei Ling?


Otacon. Nerdy, etc.

Oh, and at least in my opinion he has the best codecs in Brawl. >_>;;




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MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/20/2008 5:39:25 PM | message detail
weekly mini-contests.. ?

uh.. right, bacon.
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M_e_g_a_6_4 | Posted 6/20/2008 9:31:32 PM | message detail
Oh God this is just what I was waiting for!

**** you, SBAllen.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 6/21/2008 1:00:43 AM | message detail
Yeah, this mini Contest announcement is... odd. However today's DG entry did include some semi-interesting data.

The current top ten most tracked games right now are...

Super Smash Bros. Brawl (3006)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (2553)
Grand Theft Auto IV [Xbox 360] (2518)
Halo 3 (1435)
Ninja Gaiden II (1393)
Mario Kart Wii (1387)
Pokemon Diamond (1321)
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (1198)
Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3] (1155)
Final Fantasy XII (1145)


This is data we didn't have before, because all we can tell from our vantage point is how many people have given these games a rating. Let's check how the top games are doing in terms of getting rated.

Brawl - rated by 79.20% of owners, avg = 9.0
MGS4 - rated by 59.42% of owners, avg = 9.6
GTA4 - rated by 76.53% of owners, avg = 8.8 (360 version only)
Halo 3 - rated by 75.54% of overs, avg = 8.3

Strong rating for MGS, but as you see there's a large number of users still playing through and withholding their rating until they finish, so that's bound to come down some once the rest of the scores roll in.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/21/2008 10:46:04 AM | message detail
Bound to come down? Why do you say that?
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voltch | Posted 6/21/2008 11:12:06 AM | message detail
I reckon any game that get's a good score will always see a bunch of idiots trying to lower the score,just because.
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transcience | Posted 6/21/2008 11:26:21 AM | message detail
eh, games always start out high and lower over time. most people who buy the game immediately and rate it within days are ones who liked previous installments and couldn't wait for the sequel. MGS4 will do fine of course, but it will probably come down a bit over time.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/21/2008 2:44:00 PM | message detail
I'm really looking forward to all these minicontests. Hopefully this means a lot more interesting polls and less fillers.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/21/2008 2:45:01 PM | message detail
For some reason, I doubt it has anything to do with the polls, but you never know. Maybe he'll actually do the Quote Contest CJayC abandoned.
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ZFS | Posted 6/21/2008 2:47:42 PM | message detail
It may ended up coming down a bit, but having a 9.6 with 1500 ratings says a lot about how people feel about the game. Don't think any other game is that high with a similar amount of ratings.

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/21/2008 3:08:48 PM | message detail
And now for something totally unreleated: I miss the days when I ZFS/HM fanboyism really stood out, now he's just another Metal Gear drone.

Besides Ghost Babel will always be the best Metal Gear and Snatcher is Hideo Kojima's real masterpiece. </Opinion>
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/21/2008 9:21:14 PM | message detail
is... x actually more popular than the original?
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/21/2008 9:30:16 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised. Original's games of note only appear on the NES, Game Boy, and in collections, while X has damn good SNES AND PSX games, along with one decent PS2 game.
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/21/2008 9:33:43 PM | message detail
Also, this makes me wonder about the series contest. I mean, it is pretty well proven that MM and Zero get smacked around extra hard for no apparent reason whenever they face Nintendo, so maybe Mega Man X was SFFed in the Series Contest.


You know, this poll makes me wish Mega Man/Mega Man X had been a contest match. Hell, I wonder how a Mega Man/Zero rematch would go down.
Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/21/2008 9:36:43 PM | message detail
X is way cooler than the original Mega Man (MM7 ending excluded), so it should be no surprise that he`s winning. :)
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/21/2008 9:45:32 PM | message detail
Fun Fact: 40 minutes into Mega Man/Zero in 2k4, Mega Man had 62% of the vote.

The question is, has Mega Man's staying power been due to Mega Man himself, or due to the X games?

Additionally, Zero tore into Mega Man after the first hour. It wouldn't surprise me to see X getting within a percent or two of 50.
Xuxon | Posted 6/21/2008 9:55:07 PM | message detail
First hour back them was 3 hours later than now, so I wouldn't count on that.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/21/2008 10:01:08 PM | message detail
First hour back then is still a significant board vote. I mean, the better explanation would be Zero starting smacking around Mega Man's percentage once the board vote died out. If anything based on the trend from 2k4, X should be running into its worst time right now, yet it's still rising to the sky.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/21/2008 10:01:48 PM | message detail
err....by that I mean worst time outside the initial vote >_>;;;


I need sleep.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 6/21/2008 10:11:34 PM | message detail
Well, color me surprised! For all these years I'd thought this "X is more well-loved than MM, why does CJay never use his picture?" talk was just another of those stats topic hogwash opinions. You know the ones, I'm talking along the lines of "Magus is going to upset Crono because the CT fanbase vastly prefers him; ask anyone who's played the game, they'll agree!" But it looks like for once you guys were right... so congrats!

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/21/2008 10:13:02 PM | message detail
Samus will beat Mario with 57% of the vote.
HaRRicH | Posted 6/21/2008 10:21:48 PM | message detail
We've had a poll like this before, ya know...with similar results too.

11/29/04 - http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1834


I'll let the poll move along more before I comment on much, but it does look like MMX is distancing itself from MM at this point.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/21/2008 10:25:55 PM | message detail
Pssh, who gives a **** about series? This is omfg character match-up!



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voltch | Posted 6/22/2008 12:12:29 AM | message detail
with the change in regime i hope bacon allows the blue bomber AND X.
The results could be fascinating,imagine all this time there was a secret noble nine level character who was disallowed on a mere technicality.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/22/2008 9:29:41 AM | message detail
Meh, I hope it stays as one -- otherwise, we could have multiple Links in the contest too.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/22/2008 11:47:43 AM | message detail
There's a much bigger difference between X and MM than there is between the various Links. I mean, I kinda dislike MM, but I'd vote X over most of the field.
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transience | Posted 6/22/2008 11:50:00 AM | message detail
what?

man nevermind I don't wanna know
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/22/2008 2:29:18 PM | message detail
so maybe Mega Man X was SFFed in the Series Contest.

I thought this was never a question, honestly. And go, X!

And go, Bacon! If we're not going to get a contest for a while, more polls like this!
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/22/2008 2:58:12 PM | message detail
Yeah, considering how well it's doing today and the other poll, Link/Mega Man, and how badly MM smoked MMX stat-wise in the Series Contest (whether you think MMX > MM or not)...there's no question LoZ/MMX had some SFF going on. Maybe not much, maybe a ton...hard to say on that. The point remains that there was an anomaly against MMX.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/22/2008 3:10:43 PM | message detail
yeah, i'm pretty sure there was sff. the percentages barely changed in that match; similar to the metroid match, if i remember correctly.
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ZFS | Posted 6/22/2008 3:21:18 PM | message detail
I don't remember what the numbers looked like, but I'd be surprised if there was much SFF between those two. If you weren't Zelda, Final Fantasy, or Mario in that contest you got rocked hard. Think Metal Gear got tripled or something crazy by Zelda. Says it all right there.

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ZFS | Posted 6/22/2008 3:28:43 PM | message detail
Man, what in the world are these.

Vent/Aile, from ZX
Geo Stelar, from Star Force

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Adept of Aiur | Posted 6/22/2008 3:41:44 PM | message detail
...there are going to be weekly mini-contests right here in the admin blog!

I don't think these are going to be polls.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/22/2008 11:50:49 PM | message detail
Bah, boring poll.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 6/23/2008 1:38:26 PM | message detail
So throwing out the votes for the other characters (they only managed about 20%, so shouldn't be that big a deal), the results from yesterday tell us a head to head match would end at..

MM 29349 46.21%
MMX 34168 53.79%
63517 Total Votes

Very interesting...

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2008 4:08:59 PM | message detail
Rank the new Brawl characters in terms of contest strength!

Diddy Kong
Ike
King DeDeDe
Lucario
Lucas
Meta-Knight
Olimar
Pit
Pokemon Trainer
R.O.B.
Wario
Wolf

...I decided not to use Sonic, Snake, Zero Suit Samus, and Toon Link, for obvious reasons.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/23/2008 4:12:44 PM | message detail
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Meta-Knight
Ike
Lucario
Wario
King DeDeDe
Pit
Wolf
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Olimar
Lucas
Pokemon Trainer
R.O.B.

DeDeDe's the one I'm least sure about on that list.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 6/23/2008 4:33:28 PM | message detail
I'd put Squirtle and Charizard above any of them. Look at how Pikachu, Bidoof, and Mudkip did this year and they all have haters. Nobody, not even Pokemon haters, really hate Squirtle and Charizard.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2008 4:37:49 PM | message detail
I am a firm believer that Pokemon benefited from the format last year more than anything else other than L-Block. Put Mudkip one-on-one against Luigi or Ganondorf, and he'll get destroyed. I wouldn't take him over Pit one-on-one either.

Nevertheless, I do believe that Charizard and Squirtle would both be decent low midcarders, or at the very least, above the fodder line.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/23/2008 4:38:18 PM | message detail
Is Squirtle that popular? Above even Lucario?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/23/2008 4:55:52 PM | message detail
Of course; he's first (see also: in the only group worth playing) generation.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2008 4:57:45 PM | message detail
To be honest, I had never even heard of Lucario before Brawl, but the only Pokemon game I ever played was Blue. Being in the first game of the series is always a plus.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/23/2008 5:00:04 PM | message detail
All my first generation bias aside, the first 151 Pokemon are the most popular of the bunch. I'm sure of it.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/23/2008 5:01:46 PM | message detail
Well, I should qualify that statement: Blue was the only one of the main series I played. I also played Pokemon Stadium, and Pokemon Snap.
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Xuxon | Posted 6/23/2008 5:34:50 PM | message detail
Charizard
Meta-Knight
Squirtle
Ike
Diddy
Ivysaur
Wario
Wolf
Pit
Dedede
Lucario
Olimar
Pokemon Trainer
Lucas
R.O.B.

I almost put all 3 of Charizard/Squirtle/Ivysaur as the top 3. RBY ph33r.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/23/2008 6:22:22 PM | message detail
Charizard
Squirtle
Meta-Knight
Ike
Diddy Kong
Ivysaur
King DeDeDe
Wario
Wolf
Lucario
Olimar
Pit
Lucas
R.O.B.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/23/2008 6:35:02 PM | message detail
i think you guys are overrating king dedede.. the guy doesn't really have as much appeal as meta-knight; all he literally has are kirby games and even as a series it sucked.

so he basically only has brawl. i'd put him far close to lucas than say, ivysaur.
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