GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 549 (#2)
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/1/2008 7:21:31 PM | message detail |
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not to burst anybody's bubble but i actually do go to a lot of smash
forums and well.. snake 'being the best brawl character' is kinda
exaggerated. he's popular of course but he's not as talked about
anymore than say, ike. --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2008 7:28:25 PM | message detail |
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Well, no one said that Snake was the most popular character used in
Brawl. If you go to, say Smash Boards, Sonic and Ike are easily the
most discussed characters there. But tier-wise, Snake is near the top. --- "I'm no hero...Never was. I'm just an old killer...hired to do some wet work." |
| H__RR____H | Posted 6/2/2008 12:02:32 PM | message detail |
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I'm the token guy who won't accept _____ > Ness, I know, but I'd
still take Ness over Ike. I figure it'd be close, but I'll stick with
SSB-longevity there. If Ike's stock keeps improving though, it won't
stay that way for long. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/2/2008 12:50:10 PM | message detail |
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i always wondered if being in ssb longer accounted for a lot. i'm starting to think it does. --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/2/2008 12:59:26 PM | message detail |
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ugh. end of the week?! --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/2/2008 1:36:42 PM | message detail |
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All last year I cringed at these polls because SB was running them to
death, but this set I've actually been looking forward to, as it's been
over 5 months since our last update. That means its time for another edition of the always-exciting Trend Watch. The PS3 now has a GameFAQs Market Share of 26.29%. In the 5+ months since Christmas, that's an improvement of 4.90% - a very impressive trend no matter how you slice it. Sure, as of December the PS3 only had half the 360's userbase and roughly 1/3 of the Wii's so it was going to be much easier to grow, but regardless its clear that the system is no longer a joke by any stretch. Things might change some before the final bell, but as of right now the Wii is sitting at 59.30%. If that number holds, it will be a an improvement of 2.40% since Xmas. Solid growth, to be sure, but given the way that Brawl was tearing the whole site apart in those hype polls, I can't help but be a little bit underwhelmed. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| H__RR____H | Posted 6/2/2008 3:03:18 PM | message detail |
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For what it's worth, that number is still growing...plus Nintendo's in the toughest position to grow since it's in first. 3/18/02 - http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=834 It's still interesting to see just how successful the PS2 was in comparison to this though -- when the PS2 was about as old as the Wii is (I think a little younger, even), the PS2's ownership was at 63.13%. There's something to be said about the PS2 not having true console-competition (well, Dreamcast.....) for a year and that it followed the PS1 as opposed to the Wii competing with the PS3 and that it followed the Gamecube, but the fact remains. 5/14/03 - http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1257 A wild thing to me is that the Gamecube broke 60% quicker than the Wii. I'm sure there are fun theories to be made here. 5/16/03 - http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1259 Last, it's fun to see that the Xbox was more successful on GameFAQs at this point in its life than the PS3 is now by a few percent, but that many people want to get a PS3 for MGS4 and seem much more likely to buy it if it drops in price than people did for the Xbox. More fun comparisons between these two will come in future months and years, I'm certain. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/2/2008 3:16:20 PM | message detail |
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A wild thing to me is that the Gamecube broke 60% quicker than the Wii. I'm sure there are fun theories to be made here. probably the fact that the wii is so damn hard to get. --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| ZFS | Posted 6/2/2008 3:52:06 PM | message detail |
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Should be good seeing what the PS3 ownership jumps to here in a week. --- 6.12.2008 -- Sneak Out |
| H__RR____H | Posted 6/3/2008 12:40:29 PM | message detail |
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Uh...unless the ASV kicks into gear for the 360 soon, it looks like it
may have grown even less than the Wii. The last poll I saw showed the
360-ownership at 47.76%, yet the 360 still hasn't broken 50% yet today. Worldwide sales and the games released since the last poll completely justify the Wii increasing more here than the 360, to be fair, but I would think the 360 would have broken 50% by now. What are the next big games for the 360? --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| H__RR____H | Posted 6/3/2008 12:45:00 PM | message detail |
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...and one other thing: the "No, I don't want one right now" option for
the 360 has gone up by over a percent since the last poll.
Interesting..... --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| nintendogirl1 | Posted 6/3/2008 12:56:04 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I was just looking at those figures: Do not want numbers: Wii: Down 3.22% PS3: Down 9.10% 360: Up 1.23% Clearly big things for the PS3. Massive shift, showing it's no longer the joke it was. --- Not bad for the Wii either. |
| voltch | Posted 6/3/2008 1:46:41 PM | message detail |
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which,major character do you see getting snubbed after nominations? --- For some reason I never know what to put here. |
| Xuxon | Posted 6/3/2008 4:49:23 PM | message detail |
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ASV? School's out pretty much everywhere isn't it? --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/18, Dhoulmagus defeated (35 attempts) Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/3/2008 5:07:12 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, NOW, but they weren't 4 hours ago when he said that. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| Xuxon | Posted 6/3/2008 5:08:27 PM | message detail |
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No, I mean now as in, summer time. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/18, Dhoulmagus defeated (35 attempts) Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2008 7:25:37 PM | message detail |
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I'm the token guy who won't accept _____ > Ness, I know, but I'd
still take Ness over Ike. I figure it'd be close, but I'll stick with
SSB-longevity there. Brawl is popular enough that I don't think Ness being in three installments really matters that much. I mean, I probably would've taken Ness over Ike last year, and I would've taken him to win that fourpack against Duke, Gordon, and Guybrush if he were there instead, but... Ike is one of (if not the) most popular characters in Brawl, and Ness...isn't. I almost never see anyone online playing as Ness. And I'll take the Fire Emblem series over the Mother series every time. Fire Emblem's stock is on the rise. --- "I'm no hero...Never was. I'm just an old killer...hired to do some wet work." |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/3/2008 11:13:16 PM | message detail |
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Oh, that makes more sense. Yeah, I guess most schools would have let out by now. But now it's time for the new edition of Trend Watch! Well, take back what I said about the Wii disappointing slightly! Not only did it improve on its standing throughout the evening, eventually finishing with a growth of 2.92% over the 5 month period, but that number looks even better now that the returns on the 360 have come in. The 360 managed an important milestone, as it can now claim to be owned by over half the site (an accomplishment the original Xbox never came close to). That being said, its growth since Xmas was not very impressive; the console is up only 2.46% despite having plenty more room to expand than the Wii. Although to be fair, being beaten by the Wii isn't quite so bad considering that Brawl and Mario Kart were released during the period while pretty much all of the 360's big guns were also seen on the PS3. I'll return with updates on the DS (any maybe the PSP as well?); until then remember that all these numbers and more can be found at Got Console! http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Got_Console --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| voltch | Posted 6/3/2008 11:30:42 PM | message detail |
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So is Ike now some kind of potential midcarder? --- For some reason I never know what to put here. |
| H__RR____H | Posted 6/4/2008 10:21:45 AM | message detail |
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Potential...but I think many of us are on wait-and-see mode with him.
At the least, I'm still cautious; Marth became really popular in SSBM
after the game was out for years, and he still lost to DK last year in
a format I figure actually favored him (and Ike, while I'm at it)... ...Ike VS Marth, who do you guys have? --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| H__RR____H | Posted 6/4/2008 11:05:34 AM | message detail |
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Looking back at Marth's match, he lost to DK pretty badly actually --
by 7.01%. Then they both lost to Kratos as well (though Kratos was
expected to win). For a hardcore character in a game big on both
hardcore and casual gamers in a format built for hardcore characters,
Marth didn't really do anything...and if you want to discount the
format, that's fine -- I still doubt you would take Marth > DK, and
I would take DK with over 55% one-on-one. Would Ike really do much better at this point? We know he wasn't really worth anything last year, and we've seen Marth's support here...is Ike casual-bait enough to surpass a highly-backed fighter (with SSB-tenure, if that matters) from the same series? --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/4/2008 11:15:50 AM | message detail |
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depends on how popular ike's games are compared to marth's. --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| H__RR____H | Posted 6/4/2008 11:20:58 AM | message detail |
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Well, Ike's games are more recent to my understanding than
Marth's...but would it really come down to their FE games when
considering how popular they are in SSBM/B? It's fine if it does, but
IF it does then I'm easily taking DK > Ike and would still probably
take Ness > Ike too. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/4/2008 12:23:21 PM | message detail |
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well.. i dunno really. usually with the lower characters i just look at
what they have outside of SSB if i can't find a huge difference between
them. if their fanbase splits in SSB, then it may as well come to who's
more loyal/popular outside of it. --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 6/4/2008 2:30:34 PM | message detail |
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Of Prince Marth's two released games, both are from the early 90s (one
NES, one SNES), only one was fan translated, and that happened after
the contest (by yours truly, no less). Ike's seen two Fire Emblem
releases on the Gamecube and Wii, both of which were officially
released on America. Marth's got Melee and Ike doesn't, of course, but
with the presumably high player rates of Brawl and Ike's popularity in
it that may not be a catastrophic disadvantage. I'd wager Ike's more
popular in the more casual Fire Emblem fanbase solely because so few
have played Marth's actual games (and for those who have, he's not an
especially strong unit in them, whereas Ike excels in his two games). It basically comes down to the advantage of being in Melee vs the advantage of being in recent, domestically released Fire Emblem games. That looks really lopsided in favour of Marth unless you think being in Brawl wipes out much of the Melee advantage. --- Mustache...and green... |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/4/2008 2:39:45 PM | message detail |
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well i think hardcore ssbm fans would vote for both regardless, so i
don't really know if being in one game prior really matters. --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| Xuxon | Posted 6/4/2008 3:25:46 PM | message detail |
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Marth is about as hardcore as Daisy. He basically amounts to the quick
guy with the long sword who happens to be in two of the most popular
games. That said, I'd easily take Ike or Ness over him. Ike vs Ness I'm
not too sure about. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/18, Dhoulmagus defeated (35 attempts) Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| H__RR____H | Posted 6/4/2008 3:53:59 PM | message detail |
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Well, SSBM was/is huge and N's SSBB-site/numbers suggested GameFAQs is
arguably more partial to the game's faster fighters than other
SSBB-communities on the internet (not to mention that this is a gaming
website and Marth is still considered high-tier), so I doubt Marth lost
much/any popularity from SSBM if it did get wiped by SSBB. Granted, Ike's more enjoyed in SSBB from the numbers we got, but Marth still holds his own within SSBB specifically and was definitely a favorite in SSBM. Ike's two games likely don't hold a candle to what Marth has from SSBM, and Ike has to hope to be THAT much more popular in SSBB than Marth and/or SSBB overwrites SSBM's popularity THAT easily. Given SSBM is a Top Ten game on GameFAQs and SSBB has been out for almost three months, I don't think SSBB's overwriting SSBM anytime soon...replace, sure, but not like what SSBM did to SSB. The numbers from our GameFAQs-sample on N's site says this about Ike/Marth: MATCH-UPS Rank Name Votes 8 Ike 121 11 Marth 68 TOP FIVE Rank Name Points 1 Ike 134 7 Marth 85 Ike obviously has Marth's number there for SSBB-popularity, but I have to wonder if it (coupled with his two games) is enough to overturn what Marth built from SSBM. Hmm...this would be a good match, I think. It would be a good test to see how much SSB-longevity is worth. At any rate, if I'm right that this is a good match, then Ike's still not going to amount to a whole lot because he likely wouldn't be able to beat the likes of Donkey Kong or even Ness. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/5/2008 1:28:13 AM | message detail |
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I don't know how closely you have have been following the rollout of My
Games, but it's a pretty neat feature IMO; you can read more about it
at our "official" topic if you're interested: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43474590 But anyways, one good thing that's going to be happening regardless is that we'll be heading into this next Game Contest with some potentially useful new info. With My Games you can not only select a game as "owned," but also apply a quick 1-10 rating if you'd like, and since the feature went public a few days back, the result of those ratings has been made available on each game's main page. So to give us some basic idea of how many GameFAQs users own (and care enough about to rate) some of the bigger games on the site, I took a quick scan of the current Top 50 and noted how many votes each title had. Here are GameFAQ's Most-Owned Games ('4 days into My Games' edition) 1 GTA4 1339 2 Brawl 1235 3 Poke D/P 675 4 CoD4 584 5 Kart Wii 492 6 Halo 3 475 7 FF12 341 8 FFX 331 9 TWEWY 322 10 Zelda TP 316 11 Persona 3 311 12 Oblivion 305 13 Mass Effect 284 14 KHII 253 15 FF7 241 16 Rock Band 224 20 GTASA 221 17 OoT 205 18 FF7:CC 204 19 KH 195 21 Zelda PH 190 22 FF9 181 23 FF8 179 24 WoW 176 25 FFIII (DS) 158 26 Poke MD 137 27 FE:RD 136 28 Monster 2 134 29 Lost Ody 127 30 FFT:TWotL 109 31 FFCC:MLaaK 100 32 Poke FR 99 33 Poke E 97 34 GoWII 78 35 Diablo II 77 36 Wii Fit 66 37 MapleStory 59 38 Bleach 5 28 39 Neverwinter 2 16 Anything multi-platform was combined, and stuff like Diamond and Pearl were combined, but keep in mind I didn't go off the Top 50 to add in, for instance, all the people who own the original version of FF3 etc etc. Pretty screwy numbers in terms of how top-heavy they are, but I'm sure that will even out some as people continue completing their gaming collections. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| H__RR____H | Posted 6/5/2008 11:40:08 AM | message detail |
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FF12 > LoZ:TP confirmed More seriously, look how many games from the past year pop up on that. At least fourteen of the top forty there are from the last year...then again though, it's probably bound to be a bit biased against older games at this point. Give it time and it'll even out a lot more, but still...hmmm. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| H__RR____H | Posted 6/5/2008 11:47:40 AM | message detail |
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Also, it looks like Sony is coming out of this series of "Got ___?" as
the most improved. The PS3 gained a lot of ground in the past five
months (more than any other game system), shows even more promised
ownership with MGS4's release, the PSP has increased steadily,
Blue-Ray's slowly becoming more popular, and FF13 will now be without
question the most anticipated announced game on GameFAQs by this time
next week. I still believe the PS3 is out of the question for first place in this console race, but it's actually looking like Sony is digging itself out of its seemingly-cemented grave for now. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/5/2008 3:58:45 PM | message detail |
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How do you see total numbers like that? ~*ST*~ --- Your weapons are forfeit to me! Now Playing: FF12, Castlevania: Circle of the Moon, Zelda: Twilight Princess |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/5/2008 3:59:14 PM | message detail |
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From LeonhartFour Posted 6/1/2008 10:28:25 PM #402 Well, no one said that Snake was the most popular character used in Brawl. If you go to, say Smash Boards, Sonic and Ike are easily the most discussed characters there. But tier-wise, Snake is near the top. Smashboards doesn't mean a damn thing, most Smash players are tier whores. ~*ST*~ --- Your weapons are forfeit to me! Now Playing: FF12, Castlevania: Circle of the Moon, Zelda: Twilight Princess |
| TRE Public Account | Posted 6/5/2008 4:02:29 PM | message detail |
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How do you see total numbers like that? http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/wii/home/928518.html "From 1290 users" --- Socii sunt mihi. qui olim viri fortes rivalesque erant. Saeve certando pugnandoque sprendor crescit. |
| ZFS | Posted 6/5/2008 4:08:54 PM | message detail |
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The 'My Games' rating thing is kinda cool. More people are probably
willing to throw a rating toward a game than they are to sit down and
write a review. Metal Gear Solid -- 9.3 (104 users) Metal Gear Solid 3 -- 9.1 (89 users) Metal Gear Solid 2 -- 9.0 (97 users) woo mgs --- 6.12.2008 -- Sneak Out |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/5/2008 5:03:15 PM | message detail |
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Anyone seen any games rated higher than Chrono Trigger's 9.5? --- All you love is a lie. Brawl FC: 4253-3155-6697 |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/5/2008 5:53:11 PM | message detail |
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Operation Shadow has a 9.6 ~*ST*~ --- Your weapons are forfeit to me! Now Playing: FF12, Castlevania: Circle of the Moon, Zelda: Twilight Princess |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2008 7:52:38 PM | message detail |
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Smashboards doesn't mean a thing, most Smash players are tier whores. Yeah, because Sonic is top tier. Wait... --- "I'm no hero...Never was. I'm just an old killer...hired to do some wet work." |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/5/2008 7:59:00 PM | message detail |
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He's not top tier, but he's still very good. ~*ST*~ --- Your weapons are forfeit to me! Now Playing: FF12, Castlevania: Circle of the Moon, Zelda: Twilight Princess |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 6/6/2008 5:14:46 PM | message detail |
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well there goes our chances of knowing anything about contests. --- *is Dranze* Brawl FC: 4081-5169-8762 |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 6/6/2008 5:36:39 PM | message detail |
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Eh, he'll be doing another Ask GameFAQs soon and encourages everyone to
keep sending questions, so we could certainly hear some info next week. Speaking of, which, SB announced in his post that as of an hour or so ago there were "1563 people sharing their collection publicly." Of those 1563, 1495 own a copy of Brawl and have given it a rating; that's 95.65% ownership amongst My Games users! And with an overall rating of 9.0 despite all those thousand+ reviews, it's pretty safe to consider Brawl a serious threat if we're able to get a Game Contest for the Summer (as we've all been doing already). The 360 version of GTA4 is now at 1144, which comes out to 73.19% ownership. EDIT - Ehhh, I take that back, it appears that although only 1500 are making their collections public, ratings for games are including even private lists. So there's probably more like 2000 total My Games users so far, 1495 of whom own Brawl, for 78%ish ownership. Still, quite a showing for a non-multiplatform title. --- Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com He isn't a killer. He just wins - thoroughly. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/6/2008 5:46:38 PM | message detail |
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Games in the Top FAQ Pages list on the front page get a big advantage over the rest. --- All you love is a lie. Brawl FC: 4253-3155-6697 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2008 7:39:44 PM | message detail |
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He's not top tier, but he's still very good. That's not what I hear. All I've heard about Sonic is his low priority and lack of strong kill moves. --- "I'm no hero...Never was. I'm just an old killer...hired to do some wet work." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 6/7/2008 12:43:28 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, I hear the same thing about our Blue Blur. I was also really
anticipating his appearance and have been really disappointed by him.
He's still enjoyable, but...not very. --- Our NRT-champions: Pokemon R/B/Y -- SF64 -- DKC2 Pledge here: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=43361212 |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/8/2008 8:37:35 AM | message detail |
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Anyone seen any games rated higher than Chrono Trigger's 9.5? http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/saturn/home/573960.html Aw yeah Treasure classic on an underrated system. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. EC > Me |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 6/8/2008 11:21:36 AM | message detail |
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That's only a 9.4... --- All you love is a lie. Brawl FC: 4253-3155-6697 |
| H__RR____H | Posted 6/8/2008 11:47:51 AM | message detail |
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It probably changed soon after it was linked. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| voltch | Posted 6/9/2008 11:58:07 AM | message detail |
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Any word on if Chrono Trigger will ever be ported? Europe never got to see such a game,shame,we could have given some monies to Squaresoft instead of emulating. --- For some reason I never know what to put here. |
| H__RR____H | Posted 6/9/2008 12:04:24 PM | message detail |
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It always feels like it's rumored or on the edge of a port, but I don't think anything official has ever been said about it. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/9/2008 12:13:53 PM | message detail |
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That's only a 9.4... Yeah I was looking at the average review, sorry :( --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. EC > Me |
