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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 549 (#2)

Haste_2 | Posted 4/29/2008 4:26:05 PM | message detail
I think the only reason Starcraft was underestimated was because it faced Halo and it was a 1 vs. 16 match... normally I don't think the casuals would underestimate it. Of course, WC beating GTA in the series contest was also a big upset, but you know how GTA is overestimated...

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HaRRicH | Posted 4/29/2008 4:53:08 PM | message detail
...plus it made all sorts of sense for GTA to win at the time.

Ahem.
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Yesmar | Posted 4/29/2008 5:50:33 PM | message detail
Huh. Less people plan to buy Mario Kart Wii on GameFAQs right now than GTA4.

True, but I would keep in mind that only 20.33% of Wii owners on GameFAQS had Mario Kart Wii on the day of release when compared to:


36.89% of PS3 owners getting GTA IV

and

31.57% of X360 Owners getting GTA IV
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Yesmar | Posted 4/29/2008 5:51:54 PM | message detail
Oh, take back the phrasing of my previous post. I read Mega's comment backwards.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 4/29/2008 9:44:25 PM | message detail
Here's the result of the opening day BATTLE ROYALE.

Bought it opening day
GTA4 - 24.18%
MKW - 11.93%


Interested in buying it sometime
GTA4 - 54.59%
MKW - 56.83%


This race has been declared too close to call!

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__Smurf__ | Posted 4/30/2008 3:12:20 AM | message detail
That MKW wii poll confused me since there was no option to have had it 3 weeks previous. >_>
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greatone10 | Posted 4/30/2008 3:13:21 AM | message detail
Pfft...like Europe matters to Sailor Baconator.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 4/30/2008 3:15:46 AM | message detail
Oh please, the "winning" option was basically "I'll take any contest." Games won out over the actual character option.

No, since the question was "Do you want to see the character battle return" not do you want to see "contests" return. >_>

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creativename | Posted 4/30/2008 11:33:20 AM | message detail
Final boss of Subspace Emissary. >_>

What the hell is a subspace emissary o_o
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 4/30/2008 11:33:49 AM | message detail
It's the second game mode of Resident Evil Gaiden.
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Xuxon | Posted 4/30/2008 7:13:17 PM | message detail
The story mode of Brawl. I played a an hour of it and then unlocked characters from versus matches it was so boring <_<
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 4/30/2008 7:16:45 PM | message detail
The recently announced new character for SC4. Pics make it look like he's related to Bison, so we're thinking son or grandson.
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HaRRicH | Posted 4/30/2008 7:50:23 PM | message detail
Funny, I just started replaying Subspace Emissary. The cutscenes are generally killer and I only find it boring if I try to play a lot of it without a break.....
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Xcarvenger | Posted 5/1/2008 9:55:32 PM | message detail
PS3 exclusives are on the lead!! Looks like FFXIII will eventually pass MGS4 on the day!
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ZFS | Posted 5/1/2008 9:57:03 PM | message detail
Let's hope not!

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Who Cares? | Posted 5/2/2008 7:42:30 AM | message detail
Haha, funny to see some contest trends still hold up in a regular 'ole PotD: Street Fighter 4 leads Resident Evil 5 at night, but is now trailing it after the morning vote!
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/2/2008 7:45:32 AM | message detail
You mean Starcraft 2, right? Street Fighter 4 is barely holding off Ninja Gaiden
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Xuxon | Posted 5/2/2008 7:58:19 AM | message detail
I think he meant Street Fighter and Soul Calibur.
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Who Cares? | Posted 5/2/2008 8:04:10 AM | message detail
Ah snap, yeah, I read the poll wrong...That's what I get for trying to type so early in the morning >_>
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/2/2008 10:56:56 AM | message detail
Ha, this makes me ask two things:

1) When was the last time we heard new news about FF13? As far as I know, no new info has come in a long time.....
2) What's the next big Nintendo game to come? This list is completely Nintendo-less to my knowledge...so, I mean, maybe Wii Fit?
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voltch | Posted 5/2/2008 12:35:17 PM | message detail
Wow,FFXIII beating MGS4,both are PS3 exclusives,could the it possibly be rising from it's nailed coffin?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 5/2/2008 12:48:23 PM | message detail
I'm guessing the next Wii game GameFAQs is going to be really excited about will be Zelda in 2009...there aren't many huge games coming out for it after this this year. Maybe Animal Crossing and Kirby, but those are hardly huge.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/2/2008 4:11:55 PM | message detail
Time for another edition of the always-exciting Trend Watch.

MOST ANTICIPATED RESULTS
(January 2008 vs May 2008)

We lose:
- DMC4
- GTA4
- Brawl

We gain:
+ Ninja Gaiden 2
+ Soul Caliber 2
+ Sims 3

Jan to May Hype Increase Rankings
1. MGS4 - 10.76%
2. FF13 - 9.39%
3. RE5 - 7.23%
4. SCII - 5.87%
5. Gears 2 - 4.93%
6. SF4 - 1.85%

Appears as though MGS is going to come up a little bit short in today's poll. The good news for HMs out there- its swiftly closing the gap!

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Xuxon | Posted 5/3/2008 11:54:34 PM | message detail
While a part 549 part 3 would be fun...
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voltch | Posted 5/4/2008 5:59:11 AM | message detail
If we reach a part three we may as well stop holding these topics during long periods of off-season.
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Yesmar | Posted 5/4/2008 8:30:06 AM | message detail
Just for fun, I compared the two polls in question a couple posts earlier and figured out the percentages among the entrants that stayed the same. I subtracted Brawl, DMC IV, and GTA IV, from the first poll and divided the percentages among the amount left, and did the same for this last one, once again excluding the new ones.

I don't remember my exact numbers but:

MGS 4, Gears of War 2, and I BELIEVE RE 5 increased, while FFXIII, SCII, and SFIV all dropped relative to their fellow games.

I can't remember the numbers for RE 5 exactly, so it might have decreased too. I'm not sure on that one, but I'm positive on the others.
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TRE Public Account | Posted 5/4/2008 9:58:49 AM | message detail
The character popularity contest ob the SSBB board ended. In a match that nearly reached 450 votes, Luigi took the crown over Kirby. Full results can be found here:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=928518&topic=42937650

The contest was basically one big SFF fest, but it's always fun to create Extrapolated Standings.

Luigi - 50.00
Kirby - 45.07
Link - 43.75
Meta Knight - 42.66
Pikachu - 42.00
Ike - 40.34
Pokemon Trainer - 39.38
Yoshi - 37.92
Toon Link - 37.76
Sonic - 37.44
Snake - 37.32
Marth - 36.43
King DeDeDe - 35.33
Wolf - 34.57
Lucario - 33.57
Peach - 32.02
Samus - 31.07
Olimar - 30.93
Random Button - 30.12
Diddy Kong - 28.64
Lucas - 28.01
Sheik - 27.75
Zero Suit Samus - 27.17
Bowser - 26.09
Mr. Game & Watch - 25.40
Fox - 24.82
Jigglypuff - 23.13
R.O.B. - 21.98
Mario - 21.90
Ice Climbers - 21.78
Zelda - 20.49
Captain Falcon - 20.14
Ganondorf - 19.20
Ness - 18.75
Donkey Kong - 18.41
Falco - 18.17
Pit - 15.50
Wario - 14.71

The stats are completely unadjusted. There was a three way match and a four way match in Round 2 so I had to make an estimate for Toon Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, Dedede and Meta Knight's ranking. This also affected Sonic, Captain Falcon, Ness, R.O.B. and Ice Climbers's rankings.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/5/2008 4:02:26 PM | message detail
Just to talk about SSBB but not about Solid, how do you guys feel in each of these matches?

Wario VS Pit
Captain Falcon VS Ness
Jigglypuff VS Lucas
Diddy Kong VS Falco
Peach VS Meta-Knight
Ike VS Wolf
Fox VS Kirby
Pikachu VS Marth


Also, for kicks...in a Ridley/Diablo rematch, who do you take and what percentages are you taking?
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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/5/2008 5:31:18 PM | message detail
Great work getting those stats made, TRE. 450 votes? That's awesome; cool to see that the Brawl board is still so active.

On a related note, I have that website HaR was asking for ready to go now. In keeping with my naming convention, I call it "lol tiers", as in 'here's a chance for general gamers to determine the "tiers" for Brawl based on personal preference, rather than all this pro metagame tournament nonsense'. The main page is devoted to casting your 1v1 votes:

http://www.thengamer.com/ssb/

Every time you vote for a character he gets a +1, while the other person gets a -1. All matchups are generated randomly, so there should be no bias in determining which character will rise to the top. This system is also handy since you'll always know that 0 = average, while anyone who is able to climb significantly into the positives will be doing something very impressive.

There's three other pages as well; this first one is just to display the results of the 1v1 voting.

http://www.thengamer.com/ssb/results.php

Then the kind-of-cool secondary ranking option I threw in deals with people's "Top Five Characters." You can cast your vote on that by visiting

http://www.thengamer.com/ssb/results.php?topfive=vote

This is a wholly different scoring system, where getting voted #1 earns you 5 points, and you get 4 pts for 2nd place, and so on. The results of this voting can be seen on the last page

http://www.thengamer.com/ssb/results.php?topfive=ranks


I think it's going to be interesting to see how these two lists compare... for the Top Five, you're protected from anti-votes, so being hated doesn't hurt, while being loved and getting lots of 5s and 4s is huge. So it's closest to the Top 100 Games list a while back. Then the 1v1 is closer to a traditional Contest format, so maybe other characters will thrive there instead. We'll see how it ends up playing out.

If the site ends up being a hit, it'd only take a minute to whip up similar offerings for Melee and SSB, now that I have the system in place.

But yeah, I built the page HaR, so now I'm counting on you to promote it!

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HaRRicH | Posted 5/5/2008 6:06:17 PM | message detail
Ask and you shall receive -- in about three minutes, it went from four to twenty-nine people who have participated in it! I've only linked to this board and SSBB's board so far though.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/6/2008 4:06:17 PM | message detail
So far from N's site, there's a good argument to be made that Mario wouldn't sap a lot of Solid's SSBB-support away.....
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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/7/2008 10:52:46 AM | message detail
With 205 players casting over 13000 votes, the 1v1 section of the Brawl rankings currently sits at

Brawl Likability
1 Meta Knight 260
2 Toon Link 237
3 Pokemon Trainer 181
4 Kirby 163
5 Pikachu 156
6 Dedede 145
7 Wolf 133
8 Ike 117
9 Lucas 97
10 Snake 96

Whereas the other rankings has seen 140 players pick their Top Five favorite characters, and that Top Ten now says

Brawl Loveability
1 Ike 128 117
2 Toon Link 115 237
3 Snake 97 96
4 Lucas 88 97
5 Marth 85 71
6 Pikachu 84 156
7 Wolf 83 133
8 Zelda 83 40
9 Pokemon Trainer 80 181
10 Sonic 78 55

Early conclusions:
- our decision to back Charizard next time is looking smart, as PT's doing super in both categories
- even though Meta Knight's only 14th in Top Five points, his 1v1 showing is probably a better indication of how dangerous he could be next Contest
- it seems safe to say that Link's one weak point, a "Celda" match pic, will no longer be his kryptonite, as voters will associate that look with the well-loved Toon Link from here out
- Ike certainly has a dedicated fanbase... yeah, looks like the casual players love him as much as early reports assumed; he could be a major threat in the future
- Wolf earns high scores across the board. frankly I'm surprised we allowed Andross into a Contest over him. I'd almost ask for a redo on that one, except I don't want to encourage another villain contest!
- Lucas is probably still a bit under Ness, but people seem to like him enough that it might not be such a wide gap
- Snake should be a beast next time we see him in action, even before you take MGS4 into consideration
- Sonic... not so much. but hey, he snuck into one of the Top Tens, so the increased exposure should still do some good things for him

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Xuxon | Posted 5/7/2008 11:06:43 AM | message detail
Umm... there's no reason for any of that to translate to contest strength whatsoever. People are picking who they are good with in the game, and nothing more.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/7/2008 11:16:38 AM | message detail
Yeah, I'm sorry, but those lists imply Mario doesn't absolutely rape Samus. I wouldn't buy Samus getting anything close to 40% on Mario in a rematch.
ZFS | Posted 5/7/2008 11:19:59 AM | message detail
2 Toon Link 115 237
3 Snake 97 96


oh board 8

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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/7/2008 11:26:02 AM | message detail
No one's saying the polls are a 1:1 correspondence to Contest strength. We're just making the observation that if a character is considered the favorite of a huge section of the playerbase, those players are going to be likely to continue to support their in-game favorite come Contest time. And, given Brawl's enormous playerbase, that could potentially have a pretty big impact next time around.

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/7/2008 11:27:58 AM | message detail
Pssh, trying to use numbers to predict the Brawl boost flat-out will ruin the fun of watching a bracket torn to shreds when Ike beats Vincent.
Zylo the wolf | Posted 5/8/2008 2:35:45 AM | message detail
I had such a beautiful dream last night. On the front page of Gamefaqs there was a poll between Mario, Samus, Yoshi, Luigi, Sonic, Knuckles, Megaman and another filler character.

Sonic and Megaman won <3 Why can't Gamefaqs see that those two are the best characters?
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greatone10 | Posted 5/8/2008 2:46:20 AM | message detail
Because they are not?
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/8/2008 10:05:33 AM | message detail
Zylo's half-right, at least.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 5/9/2008 3:06:03 PM | message detail
Of course I am, and I also bump this topic because I don't want it to purge, again....
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Ngamer64 | Posted 5/9/2008 4:08:29 PM | message detail
TREND WATCH

SB kept an old CJay tradition alive a few day back by running a poll Ceej used to do pretty much on a yearly schedule, so I thought I'd go back and review how that one's been trending.

Which web browser do you use?

July 2004:
Internet Explorer - 70.42%
Firefox - 20.00%

June 2005:
Internet Explorer - 50.08% (down 22.80%)
Firefox - 42.79% (up 20.34%)

April 2006:
Internet Explorer - 39.87% (down 10.21%)
Firefox - 53.15% (up 10.36%)

May 2008:
Internet Explorer - 36.38% (down 3.49%)
Firefox - 56.12% (up 2.96%)
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Mostly you've got to chalk the slowdown in turnover just to IE just having so little percentage left to bleed... but I think another factor is how GameFAQs continues to grow and become more and more mainstream. The poll back in '05, for example, pulled it only 64k votes, compared to the 115k from the one this week.

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HaRRicH | Posted 5/9/2008 4:36:14 PM | message detail
I would chalk it up to Firefox becoming mainstream more than GameFAQs for that poll, personally. Also, I think one of those polls had a flaw where people using IE had a very difficult time voting in the poll, thus making its percentage much lower. Maybe it was the 2006-one, but I don't remember the exact poll.....
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/9/2008 5:45:58 PM | message detail
I'm just reposting the current SSBB-lists because I'm about to take the site to IGN, GameSpot, and SmashBoards. I was wanting to hit Nintendo's site up too, but apparently they don't have forums anymore (or are at least REALLY well-hidden). Any others I should tackle?




MATCH-UPS (212)
Rank Name Overall Votes
1 Meta Knight 265
2 Toon Link 241
3 Pokemon Trainer 182
4 Dedede 163
5 Pikachu 158
6 Kirby 156
7 Wolf 151
8 Ike 121
9 Snake 111
10 Lucas 104
11 Marth 68
12 Mr. Game and Watch 64
13 Sonic 57
14 Samus 52
15 Captain Falcon 48
16 Zelda 45
17 Falco 26
18 Fox -10
19 Pit -23
20 Lucario -25
21 Luigi -34
22 Ness -46
23 Ice Climbers -49
24 Olimar -55
25 ROB -76
26 Diddy Kong -101
27 Mario -107
28 Bowser -107
29 Link -110
30 Jigglypuff -122
31 Yoshi -176
32 Donkey Kong -211
33 Peach -226
34 Wario -244
35 Ganondorf -286


TOP FIVE (143)
Rank Name Top 5 Points
1 Ike 134
2 Toon Link 115
3 Lucas 99
4 Snake 97
5 Wolf 96
6 Zelda 87
7 Marth 85
8 Pikachu 84
9 Pokemon Trainer 82
10 Sonic 78
11 Pit 77
12 Lucario 74
13 Falco 73
14 Samus 72
15 Meta Knight 72
16 Mr. Game and Watch 68
17 Dedede 65
18 Captain Falcon 64
19 Ganondorf 47
20 Kirby 46
21 Yoshi 46
22 Ness 46
23 ROB 46
24 Olimar 46
25 Diddy Kong 45
26 Wario 43
27 Luigi 43
28 Link 35
29 Mario 34
30 Peach 32
31 Ice Climbers 25
32 Jigglypuff 24
33 Fox 20
34 Donkey Kong 15
35 Bowser 15
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Xuxon | Posted 5/10/2008 8:05:57 PM | message detail
Those are actually some pretty big changes already for not even doubling the totals. If you kept two separate lists, they'd be only slightly similar.
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H__RR____H | Posted 5/10/2008 11:55:23 PM | message detail
Here we go guys -- after ~8,000 votes from encouraging other online communities to participate in big-N's SSBB-site, there are some big differences. You can go to the site to see what the collective numbers are, but these numbers are showing the differences between the rest of the online-forum-going-SSBB fans and GameFAQs (specifically B8 and the SSBB-board). First, the match-ups:


MATCH-UPS (133 voters, ~8,000 votes):
Rank - Name - Overall Votes (gain/loss of rank)
1 Snake +130 (up 8)
2 Toon Link +122 (same)
3 Dedede +116 (up 1)
4 Ike +113 (up 4)
5 Marth +96 (up 6)
6 Luigi +78 (up 15)
7 Zelda +74 (up 9)
8 Pokemon Trainer +74 (down 5)
9 Captain Falcon +47 (up 6)
10 Wolf +45 (down 3)
11 Lucario +38 (up 9)
12 Kirby +25 (down 6)
13 Falco +25 (up 4)
14 Link +20 (up 15)
15 Meta Knight +15 (down 14)
16 Olimar +15 (up 8)
17 Pikachu +12 (down 12)
18 ROB +8 (up 7)
19 Ganondorf -13 (up 16)
20 Mario -18 (up 7)
21 Pit -26 (down 2)
22 Bowser -39 (up 6)
23 Ice Climbers -42 (same)
24 Mr. Game and Watch -45 (down 12)
25 Fox -51 (down 7)
26 Lucas -53 (down 16)
27 Diddy Kong -61 (down 1)
28 Wario -74 (up 6)
29 Ness -78 (down 7)
30 Sonic -87 (down 17)
31 Samus -96 (down 17)
32 Peach -98 (up 1)
33 Jigglypuff -131 (down 3)
34 Donkey Kong -156 (down 2)
35 Yoshi -174 (down 4)


For ease, here's their order by difference in ranks from GameFAQs:


MATCH-UPS (133 voters, ~8,000 votes):
Rank - Name - Overall Votes (gain/loss of rank)
1 Ganondorf -13 (up 16)
2 Luigi +78 (up 15)
3 Link +20 (up 15)
4 Zelda +74 (up 9)
5 Lucario +38 (up 9)
6 Snake +130 (up 8)
7 Olimar +15 (up 8)
8 ROB +8 (up 7)
9 Mario -18 (up 7)
10 Marth +96 (up 6)
11 Captain Falcon +47 (up 6)
12 Wario -74 (up 6)
13 Bowser -39 (up 6)
14 Ike +113 (up 4)
15 Falco +25 (up 4)
16 Dedede +116 (up 1)
17 Peach -98 (up 1)
18 Toon Link +122 (same)
19 Ice Climbers -42 (same)
20 Diddy Kong -61 (down 1)
21 Pit -26 (down 2)
22 Donkey Kong -156 (down 2)
23 Wolf +45 (down 3)
24 Jigglypuff -131 (down 3)
25 Yoshi -174 (down 4)
26 Pokemon Trainer +74 (down 5)
27 Kirby +25 (down 6)
28 Fox -51 (down 7)
29 Ness -78 (down 7)
30 Pikachu +12 (down 12)
31 Mr. Game and Watch -45 (down 12)
32 Meta Knight +15 (down 14)
33 Lucas -53 (down 16)
34 Sonic -87 (down 17)
35 Samus -96 (down 17)




I'll be typing up the Top Five list now, but it's cool to go ahead and discuss without it -- there's a lot of interesting stuff there!
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ZFS | Posted 5/11/2008 12:20:15 AM | message detail
1 Snake +130 (up 8)

hail

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H__RR____H | Posted 5/11/2008 1:20:17 AM | message detail
And now...here's the same thing with the Top Five stuff:



TOP FIVE (89 voters, 445 votes):
Rank - Name - T5-points (gain/loss of rank)
1 Marth 99 (up 6)
2 Toon Link 92 (same)
3 Ike 66 (down 2)
4 Snake 62 (same)
5 Meta Knight 59 (up 10)
6 Zelda 58 (same)
7 Olimar 57 (up 17)
8 Captain Falcon 52 (up 10)
9 Luigi 50 (up 18)
10 Kirby 49 (up 10)
11 Dedede 47 (up 6)
12 Wolf 46 (down 7)
13 Bowser 46 (up 22)
14 Falco 43 (down 1)
15 Samus 41 (down 1)
16 Ness 41 (up 6)
17 Lucario 38 (down 5)
18 Pokemon Trainer 37 (down 9)
19 Pit 32 (down 8)
20 ROB 29 (up 3)
21 Lucas 28 (down 18)
22 Pikachu 28 (down 14)
23 Link 27 (up 5)
24 Diddy Kong 26 (up 1)
25 Sonic 24 (down 15)
26 Mr. Game and Watch 23 (down 10)
27 Wario 23 (down 1)
28 Peach 22 (up 2)
29 Ganondorf 21 (down 10)
30 Mario 19 (down 1)
31 Jigglypuff 17 (up 1)
32 Ice Climbers 16 (down 1)
33 Fox 16 (same)
34 Donkey Kong 12 (same)
35 Yoshi 10 (down 14)


For ease once again, here's the order by difference of how it compares to GameFAQs:


TOP FIVE (89 voters, 445 votes):
Rank - Name - T5-points (gain/loss of rank)
1 Bowser 46 (up 22)
2 Luigi 50 (up 18)
3 Olimar 57 (up 17)
4 Meta Knight 59 (up 10)
5 Captain Falcon 52 (up 10)
6 Kirby 49 (up 10)
7 Marth 99 (up 6)
8 Dedede 47 (up 6)
9 Ness 41 (up 6)
10 Link 27 (up 5)
11 ROB 29 (up 3)
12 Peach 22 (up 2)
13 Diddy Kong 26 (up 1)
14 Jigglypuff 17 (up 1)
15 Toon Link 92 (same)
16 Snake 62 (same)
17 Zelda 58 (same)
18 Fox 16 (same)
19 Donkey Kong 12 (same)
20 Falco 43 (down 1)
21 Samus 41 (down 1)
22 Wario 23 (down 1)
23 Mario 19 (down 1)
24 Ice Climbers 16 (down 1)
25 Ike 66 (down 2)
26 Lucario 38 (down 5)
27 Wolf 46 (down 7)
28 Pit 32 (down 8)
29 Pokemon Trainer 37 (down 9)
30 Mr. Game and Watch 23 (down 10)
31 Ganondorf 21 (down 10)
32 Pikachu 28 (down 14)
33 Yoshi 10 (down 14)
34 Sonic 24 (down 15)
35 Lucas 28 (down 18)
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H__RR____H | Posted 5/11/2008 2:25:28 AM | message detail
Since I'm still up, I'll give a quick thought or two on all that:

--> I'm not surprised at Solid > Sonic for SSBB on GameFAQs or anywhere else...but it surprises me that GameFAQs seems to have the least extreme view on that equation. I figure those other places didn't get as excited for Sonic as they did for Solid and/or care as much for the Sonic series as they do for the MG series compared to us...but maybe they're madder than we are about Sonic's lack of knock-out moves!
--> It looks like there's a loose correlation that GameFAQs prefers quicker characters in SSBB (maybe in general?) while others enjoy stronger characters. Ike and Solid seem to be enjoyed by all for the most part...but bigger characters like Ganon, Bowser, and King Dedede saw more success outside of GameFAQs while lighter ones like Meta-Knight, Sonic, and Pikachu took strong hits outside of our domain. Again though, ultimately I still think it's a loose correlation that may not even matter.
--> My biggest surprise? Captain Olimar. I didn't suspect people from IGN or GameSpot would care for him at all nor did I figure SmashBoards would be crazy for the guy, plus he's a tricky guy to use. If only GameFAQs would back him up more (and, really, even if they don't), I'd love to see Olimar get a second chance to take on somebody in a contest...and maybe next time it wouldn't be Mario as a 16-seed.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/11/2008 6:11:41 AM | message detail
No love for pokemon outside GameFAQs?
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