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HaRRicH | Posted 1/2/2008 11:30:43 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2247

Argh, can't really relate any comparisons to GoW1 with today's poll. On one hand, GoW2 has more percentage today than GoW1 + DW8...but on the other hand, any game in that poll would be guaranteed to beat any game in today's poll except GoW2. I dunno...just gotta wait awhile longer for a decent read.


Looking at the poll a bit closer though (and some other PS2-polls as well), I think we'll continue seeing the Guitar Hero series go up. We saw GH1 land between Tekken 5 and a Smackdown VS RAW game there, which was pitiful, not to mention it got 6.13% in a poll where GoW1 won...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2622

...but GH2 bumped up since GH1 later caught on. I still don't think beating a MGS-remake means a lot in these GotY-polls, but it did win over it with 14.09% and took third place in a poll with FF12 and KH2...so that's a big improvement. We've also now seen that the GH-series is at least building a fanbase here, even if it's only a statement of its dominance in the rhythm.music-genre:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2803

I believe that poll was soon after GH2 was ported to the 360. Now, with GH3 having full-steam as a series AND is not only on the PS2 but the PC, PS3, 360, and Wii as well...well, I'm standing by GH3 taking the multiplatform-poll when it comes up. Might even give GoW2 a run with some luck.
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Janus5000 | Posted 1/3/2008 2:36:33 AM | message detail
If Rock Band's also in the multiplatform poll, GH3 will probably get LFFed enough for AC to win. I can't see Orange Box doing well for whatever reason.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/3/2008 10:43:04 AM | message detail
Yikes, that's a possibility, yeah...how has Rock Band been selling though? I suspect it's not been nearly as well and I still get the vibe that GH3 is king of the genre right now.
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__Mega64__ | Posted 1/3/2008 10:47:26 AM | message detail
Multiplatform will come down to CoD4, GH3, and (if it's on there) Bioshock. In terms of potential to win, I'll go CoD4 > Bioshock > GH3, though I still think GH3 has a chance.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 1/3/2008 10:47:50 AM | message detail
Orange Box may do well for its critical acclaim alone (and the fact that it's an auto-favorite for Half-Life 2 fans), but are we sure Bacon will even include compilation games?
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Janus5000 | Posted 1/3/2008 1:25:13 PM | message detail
I'm pretty sure GH3 PS2 murders RB PS2 in sales (which is to be expected, as one of RB's selling points is DLC), but I'm not sure about the 360 or PS3. I think GH3 still has the advantage there though.

Though if its main competition is AC, Orange Box and CoD4, then GH3 would almost certainly benefit from being the only one on the Wii. It'll need to in order to stand a chance at winning.
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trannyscience | Posted 1/3/2008 1:28:36 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2247

man, Guitar Hero's come a long way.

(or so we assume)
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/3/2008 1:32:11 PM | message detail
GH3 murders Rock Band in sales on every console, and has Wii/PC versions to aid it.
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Janus5000 | Posted 1/3/2008 1:38:33 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2929
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2861

RB obviously had much stiffer cimpetition... still, looks like GH3 crushed Orange Box.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 1/3/2008 1:43:16 PM | message detail
Lifetime American Sales:

Guitar Hero III - 3.3 million
Rock Band - 382,000

Not much LFFing to be had here, lads!

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trannyscience | Posted 1/3/2008 1:44:29 PM | message detail
oh, there's some. there are a lot of people, GH fans, that think Rock Band is far superior to GH. they may not be numerous, but they are the type to vote GH over everything -- what you'd need in a poll like that.
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trannyscience | Posted 1/3/2008 1:45:44 PM | message detail
for the record, I'm going GH3 > AC > COD4 > Orange Box > Rock Band should those be the main five games.
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__Mega64__ | Posted 1/3/2008 2:37:16 PM | message detail
still, looks like GH3 crushed Orange Box.

I thought Orange Box didn't get too much hype until people actually played it and discovered Portal was actually a solid game.

Will Bioshock be under 360 or Multiplatform? PC version doesn't seem as big, plus C&C3 was listed as a PC game when it's also on the 360.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 1/3/2008 2:49:31 PM | message detail
It's too bad Portal is the only thing worth having from the Orange Box.

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ZFS | Posted 1/3/2008 4:38:42 PM | message detail
for the record, I'm going GH3 > AC > COD4 > Orange Box > Rock Band should those be the main five games.

I'm thinking something along those lines, too. Think Assassin's Creed might pull it out over GH3, though.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 1/3/2008 5:06:30 PM | message detail
Here's the upcoming schedule, for those interested:

Tonight: Best PS3 Game
Friday Night: Best PSP Game
Saturday Night: Best Wii Game
Sunday Night: Best 360 Game
Monday Night: Best Multiplatform Game
Tuesday Night: Game of the Year (9-way)
Wednesday Night: Final Game of the Year (3-way)
Thursday Night: Console of the Year

That is, unless HaR fires those Poll Suggestion Ticket cannons I've told him to arm, and SB gives us the mini-tourney this year deserves.

Yeah, I get the feeling BioShock will be counted as 360, which should make for a fairly tight 3-way battle between GH3, CoD4, and AC in that multi... but I still feel that GH will take it without TOO much trouble, and CoD/AC seems too close to call right now. Orange Box is going to have some very dedicated support, but I don't get the feeling it can pack enough of a punch to contend for the #1 there.

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ZFS | Posted 1/3/2008 5:18:42 PM | message detail
Thursday Night: Console of the Year

Man, it's a shame that the Wii is gonna win that one. The options there should be 'Xbox 360' five times.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 1/3/2008 9:07:56 PM | message detail
PS3 poll up, and Ratchet & Clank is stomping Uncharted for first place in the early going, just as I predicted. This is a sad sad day to be swirldude! Might also be a tight one for third between Ninja Gaiden and Heavenly Sword, could be worth keeping an eye on.

With regards to how ugly that PC GotY poll was, I took a look through the archives and the last PotD to manage that extreme level of unpopularity was

Poll 2752 (05/15/07)
Which upcoming PSP game are you most looking forward to?
7284 14.61% Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles
11477 23.01% Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
3504 7.03% Disgaea PSP
4714 9.45% Final Fantasy Anniversary Edition
4647 9.32% Final Fantasy Dissidia
11529 23.12% God of War: Chains of Olympus
2213 4.44% Monster Hunter Freedom 2
4503 9.03% Silent Hill: Origins
TOTAL VOTES: 49871

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__Mega64__ | Posted 1/3/2008 9:09:16 PM | message detail
Man, it's a shame that the Wii is gonna win that one. The options there should be 'Xbox 360' five times.

More like PC, since it got all the good games on the 360 besides Halo 3 anyway. But then it had Crysis, and games are usually better on the PC (though the GH3 port sucks).

Both are pretty even, actually.
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__Mega64__ | Posted 1/3/2008 9:10:35 PM | message detail
Wait, there's a site with archived PotD's, or did you just look through each old poll individually?
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Ngamer64 | Posted 1/3/2008 9:11:51 PM | message detail
Gracious sakes boy, you need to learn to read the first post of every single topic!


TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://adamrose.mit.edu/allpolls.txt


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__Mega64__ | Posted 1/3/2008 9:13:21 PM | message detail
I'm so used to those links I never noticed that. Neato.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/4/2008 6:46:25 AM | message detail
More like PC, since it got all the good games on the 360 besides Halo 3 anyway. But then it had Crysis, and games are usually better on the PC (though the GH3 port sucks).

There's also Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, Rock Band, GH2, VF5, PGR4, etc. The 360 got plenty of great games this year that the PC didn't.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 1/4/2008 8:02:43 AM | message detail
Plus no one cares about PC.

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__Mega64__ | Posted 1/4/2008 8:41:31 AM | message detail
Ah, forgot Mass Effect and Rock Band.

Rock Band is fun as ****.
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Aphex Twin | Posted 1/4/2008 9:23:37 PM | message detail
poor Jeanne.
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ZFS | Posted 1/4/2008 9:35:06 PM | message detail
Figured FFT would be doing better than it is. Surprised to see Ratchet hanging with Castlevania, too.

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HaRRicH | Posted 1/4/2008 9:36:35 PM | message detail
gee thanks clankFAQs
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Ngamer64 | Posted 1/4/2008 9:45:12 PM | message detail
Well now, this is really something... I don't know whether to be proud of GameFAQs for doing such a surprising job of avoiding the franchise vote, or ashamed of the Final Fantasy brandname for failing to put up big numbers on the "Dracula X Chronicles" and "Size Matters."

Then again, this IS Final Fantasy after all... surely we're going to see plenty more support as soon as we get out of this Power Hour.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/4/2008 9:46:22 PM | message detail
DXC is Symphony of the Night, which isn't that much weaker than FFT.
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Aphex Twin | Posted 1/4/2008 9:58:23 PM | message detail
Ratchet is really impressing me here too. who knew people cared about it?
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FFDragon | Posted 1/4/2008 9:59:58 PM | message detail
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Ratchet is really impressing me here too. who knew people cared about it?


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2986

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Aphex Twin | Posted 1/4/2008 10:03:11 PM | message detail
we'll see how much that poll matters in a week. :)
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Heroic_Servbot | Posted 1/4/2008 10:50:34 PM | message detail
Crysis is dominating the poll despite having sold under 100,000 copies. This is basically the crappy culmination for the disaster known as "PC gaming in 2007."

Only if your definition of PC gaming is non Steam USA sales...

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transcience | Posted 1/5/2008 5:54:33 PM | message detail
haha, check out that day vote from Ratchet (and Castlevania, for that matter)
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therealmnm | Posted 1/5/2008 6:02:46 PM | message detail
You call this not franchise voting? FFT is doing better than I would have liked actually. I don't see how you can call this a bad performance.
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Master Moltar | Posted 1/5/2008 9:07:34 PM | message detail
Our Game of the Year is performing pretty nicely, don't you think?
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transcience | Posted 1/5/2008 9:08:32 PM | message detail
...dear god

poor Samus, feeling 2005 all over again
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transcience | Posted 1/5/2008 9:10:37 PM | message detail
woo Samus picking up big percentage now! rot in hell, RE4Wii!
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/5/2008 9:38:17 PM | message detail
1) Anybody remember MP1 > Animal Crossing > SMS in 2002? Ha.....
2) Halo 3 has one hell of an expectation to beat tomorrow.
3) No M&S-Olympics? No Mario Party 8? Granted, neither would have done fantastic, but better than ****in' Zach and Wiki.
4) WarioWare, what the hell? I want to completely and entirely blame SMG, but this is still terrible. Even given the circumstances, it's tied with NiGHTS right now and is being doubled by Super Paper Mario. Just...doesn't look good.
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Aphex Twin | Posted 1/5/2008 9:41:54 PM | message detail
wait, was Warioware expected to be worth a damn, especially with Mario, SPM and Metroid to compete with it?

(I voted for it)
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/5/2008 9:44:09 PM | message detail
Not necessarily third place material, but not where it looked anywhere like this. Then again, I didn't expect SMG to come flying out of the gates like this!



I'm currently playing SMG, by the way, and I adore it. Wonderful game.
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Aphex Twin | Posted 1/5/2008 9:45:53 PM | message detail
this reminds me of TP's "run" last year. SMG looks like a beast here. I was preaching to Halo's strength in a multi-way poll, but I can't see it doing to Bioshock what Mario is currently doing to Metroid Prime. gawdamn.
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Aphex Twin | Posted 1/5/2008 9:46:25 PM | message detail
I wonder if Mario benefits from this in any serious way? this should be enough to hold off Snake at the very least.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/5/2008 9:56:10 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2245
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2988


Here's a fun comparison. Though SMG isn't going to finish with 66.74%, MP:3 is bigger than any other two games combined RE4 faced in 2005. I also don't know how FE:RD compared to FE:PoR, but it looks like RE4 made FE:PoR look much better than SMG's allowing FE:RD. Last, it's VERY unfair to compare RE4 to its Wii-counterpart...but look at it getting its ass whooped by SMG (and probably beaten by MP3:C, too)!

Obviously, nothing exact should be taken from this poll, and really we don't have to look at this poll much deeper than what SMG is doing to every game there. That said, all this would lead me to believe that Halo 3 would have to be on par with Resident Evil 4 or better to compete with SMG -- a very tough feat to do here, especially for a Halo entry! It's going to have to destroy Bioshock and Mass Effect tomorrow to make me feel like it's in the game for the final-GotY.
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HaRRicH | Posted 1/5/2008 10:01:44 PM | message detail
We saw the Sunshine Effect allow Mario to beat Cloud and Crono in 2002, and GotY-polls had MP1 >>> AC > SMS...and this was during a time when Nintendo was #2 in both system-ownership and company-favoritism. NOW, we're seeing SMG >>> MP3:C with Nintendo being #1 here in ownership and favoritism...and SSBB hasn't even been released yet. You tell me if Mario's boosting.....

=)



The above paragraph is completely unfair to say in honesty, but I do think Mario's going to be looking good. I think he has a shot to beat Sephiroth this year once SSBB releases next month.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 1/5/2008 10:08:20 PM | message detail
Dude, look at RE4 challenge MP3! Go Leon!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 1/5/2008 10:11:27 PM | message detail
Urgh. Seeing RE4 take advantage of LFF/SFF like this is terrible.
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PiGuy96 | Posted 1/5/2008 10:12:43 PM | message detail
Woah, Galaxy. Guess I can safely pity vote Radiant Dawn. <_<
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ZFS | Posted 1/5/2008 10:42:17 PM | message detail
Our Game of the Year is performing pretty nicely, don't you think?

We haven't seen it yet!

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