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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 548

Ngamer64 | Posted 11/30/2007 9:19:28 PM | message detail
I've got a ton of respect for everything CJay did for us, and I agreed when people didn't appreciate SB's hands-off attitude to questionable results in the past contest, but polls like today prove that hey, here's a guy who gets it.

Do you think you'll get a new game system for Christmas?
Jeff gets hired back 17.64% 285
CNET begs for user mercy 12.13% 196
GameSpot begins it's steady decent 25.19% 407
The Eidos Empire crumbles 5.82% 94
No Comment 25.5% 412
No Comment 13.74% 222
TOTAL VOTES 1616

+5 points for having the pulse of the boards, +2 for not taking PotD too seriously and tossing out fun wacky polls like this every once in a while, but -1 for "it's" (that mistake always really bothers me).

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HaRRicH | Posted 11/30/2007 9:27:09 PM | message detail
Jeff's in third...sad. And, though it's actually a good thing, GameSpot should never beat him in ANY kind of poll in Jeff's home territory!
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/30/2007 9:42:08 PM | message detail
Hey, maybe we can actually glean some useful info from this. The last two options are identical, yet the one on top has (had) nearly the double the percentage. Maybe it's not crazy to wonder whether or not the top entrant/character enjoys a very tiny advantage in any given match.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/30/2007 9:56:16 PM | message detail
Aaannnddd...hey, look, new poll.
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Yesmar | Posted 11/30/2007 9:57:56 PM | message detail
People have always joked about a Left Pong Paddle Vs. Right Pong Paddle match, but I've always suspected that in that case the Left Paddle would win by AT LEAST 60% if not way more, due to people just picking the top option.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/30/2007 10:03:12 PM | message detail
Left Pong Paddle has a huge advantage. I think, in any old school 2D vs. match, a vast majority of gamers want to start on the left side of the screen, and guess who just happens to be there.
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redrocket | Posted 11/30/2007 11:35:48 PM | message detail
Maybe it's not crazy to wonder whether or not the top entrant/character enjoys a very tiny advantage in any given match.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=848

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Ngamer64 | Posted 12/1/2007 4:24:28 PM | message detail
Yeah, was just about to link that Xbox poll. I actually looked that one up just a few weeks back when the same "first choice bias" debate came up elsewhere.

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HaRRicH | Posted 12/1/2007 7:35:44 PM | message detail
I thought the Xbox poll was based on the actual options being labeled stuff other than Xbox.
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redrocket | Posted 12/1/2007 9:26:59 PM | message detail
No, the actual options really were all Xbox.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 12/2/2007 6:48:30 PM | message detail
Yeah, the next year CJay asked something like "How would you rate yourself as a gamer?" and if you voted the most bragging option it turned out you had ACTUALLY said that you're awful.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 12/4/2007 1:30:40 PM | message detail
Come on fellas, we shouldn't be having to resort to purge-saving bumps!

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 12/4/2007 1:32:30 PM | message detail
The last two contests have left us with very little to talk about post-contest.

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YoAriel33 | Posted 12/4/2007 1:33:09 PM | message detail
I think we had a Stats Topic actually purge at around 250ish last off season.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/4/2007 2:31:08 PM | message detail
Yeah...think it was #276 or something. That's been awhile back!
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swirIdude | Posted 12/4/2007 2:44:50 PM | message detail
At some point, there is going to be some spark, some random thought, that gets us going again. Just isn't happening yet.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/5/2007 1:10:36 AM | message detail
Ha...Ness would beat Wario head to head, and this year doesn't mean a damn thing about proving it!
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/5/2007 1:13:50 AM | message detail
Hm... if Alucard and Meta Knight were both in a 4-way poll, assuming no factors, who'd win?

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HaRRicH | Posted 12/5/2007 1:17:27 AM | message detail
I'd take Alucard, but I also think Ness was in a more favorable position than Wario in either of his matches. I'm also assuming (perhaps blindly?) that Alucard hasn't dropped as much as the past two years might suggest.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/6/2007 11:30:26 PM | message detail
...so, uh, Alucard VS Tidus.
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Lopen | Posted 12/7/2007 1:06:38 AM | message detail
Yeah, this contest sucked for speculation. Hell, even if you want to consider basing things offa 4 way results L-Block kinda threw that out the window. There's nothing to analyze here!
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Lopen | Posted 12/7/2007 1:07:22 AM | message detail
And uh... I take Alucard over Tidus! He looked better this year!
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__Mega64__ | Posted 12/7/2007 1:20:03 AM | message detail
Any notable newcomers?

Oh, I know, the guy from Uncharted VS Nathan Hale. I don't know, I think the Uncharted guy would win.
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swirIdude | Posted 12/7/2007 6:19:25 AM | message detail
Nathan Drake beats Nathan Hale.

I think...
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MnMZero | Posted 12/7/2007 6:23:29 AM | message detail
...so, uh, Alucard VS Tidus.

Alucard's actually got a damn good bit of exposure as of late, across all fronts...

Aria of Sorrow
Dawn of Sorrow
Symphony of the Night (XBLA)
Dracula X Chronicles

I think it's pretty safe to take him over Tidus.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 12/7/2007 7:10:34 AM | message detail
Yeah, DXC wasn't out yet at the time of the contest.

And when was SotN released on PSN?
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 12/7/2007 11:38:05 AM | message detail
Anyone else get an e-mail about prizes? I got one but it was surprisingly vague and just told me to email them back with a bunch of information.

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/7/2007 11:41:11 AM | message detail
Nathan Drake beats Nathan Hale.

Adrian Andrews probably beats Nathan Hale. >.>
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 12/7/2007 11:41:23 AM | message detail
L-Block made this contest the best one ever IMO Lopen

He basically said "lol x-stats" on his way out too.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/7/2007 12:13:30 PM | message detail
Actually, saying L-Block messed up the stats couldn't be more wrong. That's why you measure from others. Thanks to the matches being 4-way there are many ways to measure the stats, without even adjusting. SC2K6 is actually a much bigger mess with trying to measure x-stats.

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HaRRicH | Posted 12/7/2007 12:18:26 PM | message detail
I got an e-mail too and have now got my official $50 certificate.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 12/7/2007 12:21:15 PM | message detail
Alright good to know... Call of Duty shall now soon be mine! And I totally shouldn't have asked for Mass Effect/Galaxy/Creed for Christmas now!

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HaRRicH | Posted 12/7/2007 3:32:10 PM | message detail
It doesn't look like the certificate expires though...like, ever. I think you'll be fine!
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 12/9/2007 3:52:40 AM | message detail
stats topic in the verge of purging!
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/9/2007 10:59:31 AM | message detail
Ummm...like, let's see.

Vincent VS Crono
Ryu Hayabusa VS Riku
Kirby VS Kratos



WE NEED SOME GODDAMNED DEBATE!!!
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 12/9/2007 11:00:28 AM | message detail
Vincent
Rikku
Kratos

Only one I'm pretty confident about is Kratos.

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YoAriel33 | Posted 12/9/2007 11:02:32 AM | message detail
Vincent
Riku
Kirby

The more time passes between now and the next Character Battle, the more confident I feel in Vincent and Riku (the Kingdom Hearts series has several games coming down the pike).
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 12/10/2007 8:47:17 AM | message detail
Vincent(Unless Crono somehow makes Brawl)
Ryu Hayabusa(Ninja Gaiden 2 anyone?)
Kirby
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/10/2007 12:25:23 PM | message detail
I think I'd take Tidus over Alucard. Alucard seemed like he was worse than ever last contest...why? Dante got 26.59% compared to MC's 32.02%, while Alucard only managed 19.22% compared to MC's 43.78%. Based on this assumption... Dante basically doubles Alucard (or a little worse than that using Morgoth's formula). And, Tidus did only a point worse than Vivi, and I don't think Dante doubles Vivi...well...

Dante - 30.43%
Leon - 23.85%

Leon - 40.13%
Vivi - 30.87%

So, Vivi gets an expected.... 38% (or a little less using the 4-way formula). Maybe Dante was a real beast (his strongest yet) in the last contest, after all. Of course, this is ignoring anomalies and such, heh, not to mention 4-way causes some characters to perform differently.

Vincent VS Crono...Vincent, I guess. However, I must note that people are still playing CT for their first time by the day! In fact, I have a little cousin that's just borrowed CT from me...CT is indeed being passed on through the generations. =P

Ryu Hayabusa VS Riku...Riku. Nothing decisively points to Hayabusa winning except that R1 match... but Riku outright beat him the next round, and past contests suggest Riku wins by more...even pre-KH2 Riku's expected to beat Hayabusa before this year.

Kirby VS Kratos.... Kratos. Kratos flattened Kirby, and DK couldn't have hurt Kirby too much, as DK did horrible in that R2 match. It's true that Kratos didn't do too much better than Riku the following round... I think it was a result of Kratos being hurt by some SFF/LFF, but you never know. I can't wait to see Kratos in a 1-on-1 match.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 12/10/2007 10:48:19 PM | message detail
Ah cool, another poll showing that SB "gets it." (though apparently the last funny poll was a server glitch or something, cough cough)

What do you think about polls with silly or nonsensical options?
I hate them, they make the whole poll meaningless 5.95% 750
I don't like them, it skews the results too much 9.69% 1222
They're okay, I don't mind them at all 14.12% 1781
They're great, polls are supposed to be fun 11.61% 1465
Do a barrel roll! 58.64% 7397
TOTAL VOTES 12615

Barrel roll would have been a monster in the Quotes Contest confirmed! Though I don't think there was ever really any doubt, at least not in a post L-Block world.

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Xcarvengerx | Posted 12/10/2007 10:51:05 PM | message detail
All your base would like to have a word with you!
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/10/2007 10:56:25 PM | message detail
All your base would be barrel-rolled by L-Block.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 12/10/2007 11:09:32 PM | message detail
Well AYB would have been a heavy hitter for sure, but I think it could have gotten into trouble against a quote that, through SF64, has surely been seen first-hand by a greater portion of the site, and which spawned a fad that I think was more GameFAQs-centric than AYB ever managed.

Anyways while we're on the subject of poll results, here's one that just finished up at LL which pretty much confirms what we'd all been expecting.

Which is the greatest Pokemon generation?
Red/Blue/Yellow 49.16% 1263
Gold/Silver/Crystal 23.24% 597
Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald 2.57% 66
Diamond/Pearl 9.54% 245
Stadium/Colosseum/Battle Revolution 0.35% 9
Mystery Dungeon 0.31% 8
XD 8.17% 210
I've never played pokeymans 6.66% 171
TOTAL VOTES 2569

Obviously the "never played" option is tiny compared to what we'd see across the whole site, since LUEsers are big into anything older Nintendo oriented. And that RBY number is clearly at least a little inflated, since for most of the site Pokemon is nostalgic rather than something they're playing at the moment, and of course on GameFAQs you'd have a number of younger viewers voting strictly DP just because it's the only generation they've played. BUT, all things considered, it's very apparent which generation should be rallied behind next Games Contest.

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Haste_2 | Posted 12/11/2007 12:54:59 AM | message detail
I'm surprised at how poorly DP did. After all the smoke (hype) cleared, I decided DP was my favorite generation. The only that bugs me is the slow battles and inconvenient menus...

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 12/11/2007 11:24:20 AM | message detail
i want my money.

damn you cnet.

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Haste_2 | Posted 12/12/2007 8:41:04 PM | message detail
Dead.

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swirIdude | Posted 12/13/2007 10:59:56 AM | message detail
Dead?!
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/13/2007 2:09:50 PM | message detail
As a dodo.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/14/2007 7:22:12 AM | message detail
Yes.

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Haste_2 | Posted 12/14/2007 7:23:21 AM | message detail
Who said anything was dead, let alone this topic?!

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