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Sykolan | Posted 11/5/2007 9:33:28 AM | message detail
This poll is Nintendo's way of saying, "Apparently, you fools just forgot who the **** we are on this site." =P
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consolefreak | Posted 11/5/2007 9:43:02 AM | message detail
Deer God, L-block. What a disgusting contest final. It's pretty funny though, and I actually finished on the leaderboard, effectively making this contest awesome :p

Cheers guys
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GodOfGaming | Posted 11/5/2007 9:57:27 AM | message detail
What if...after this Poll is done, that ? Block turns out to be Link.
Or something. o_O
I dunno.
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Guess how many teens | Posted 11/5/2007 10:02:41 AM | message detail
L Block in R1: 40116
L Block in R2: 37825
L Block in R3: 40774
L Block in R4: 44753
L Block in R5: 56925
L Block in R6: 65462
I think he's going to be a monster in 1v1 contests too, no matter how you put it, he did awesome.

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GyratingGrandma | Posted 11/5/2007 10:12:35 AM | message detail
except the joke will be stale

then again people here love to beat stuff into the ground, so maybe he'll still do well.

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smitelf | Posted 11/5/2007 10:56:58 AM | message detail
God, this board has become newbie hell, when will they go away? *curls up in stats topic corner, eyes darting around in suspicion*
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Master Moltar | Posted 11/5/2007 11:04:31 AM | message detail
Time to take some RE4-style action

SHOOT EM IN THE HEAD
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 11/5/2007 11:05:28 AM | message detail
I use the knife like a man.

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Yesmar | Posted 11/5/2007 11:20:50 AM | message detail
Time | L-Block | Paddle | Weighted Companion Cube | ? Block
01:00 | 35.93% | 07.97% | 24.56% | 31.55%
02:00 | 32.56% | 07.97% | 22.47% | 37.00%
03:00 | 31.59% | 07.31% | 23.23% | 37.87%
04:00 | 31.80% | 08.27% | 20.46% | 39.47%
05:00 | 33.09% | 08.56% | 20.37% | 37.99%
06:00 | 31.86% | 08.59% | 18.74% | 40.82%
07:00 | 32.46% | 08.49% | 17.89% | 41.16%
08:00 | 31.72% | 09.06% | 18.23% | 40.99%
09:00 | 30.30% | 08.33% | 18.31% | 43.06%
10:00 | 31.40% | 08.16% | 17.38% | 43.07%
11:00 | 29.05% | 08.26% | 19.29% | 43.41%
12:00 | 28.85% | 08.68% | 20.85% | 41.62%
13:00 | 28.41% | 08.97% | 18.88% | 43.74%
14:00 | 27.68% | 08.99% | 19.74% | 43.59%


Interesting that Paddle has the most clearly defined voting trends. And the midday vote hasn't appeared to hurt ? Block at all.
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Yesmar | Posted 11/5/2007 11:21:51 AM | message detail
And here, I posted these yesterday, but in all the chaos they'd probably be more appreciated today:

Only Double Comeback: Marcus Fenix against Kefka and Ocelot (4th to 2nd)
Only Double Drop: Mudkip against Ganondorf and Luigi (1st to 3rd)

Most Rounds Advancing Together: L-Block/Snake (3)
Only other Couples advancing Multiple Rounds: Mario/Big Boss, Master Chief/Yuna, Dante/Amaterasu, Sonic/Sub-Zero (1st/2nd), Link/Vincent (2nd/3rd)

Only people to Beat Someone who Previously Beat Them: L-Block (Three Rounds in a Row), Alucard, Riku, Gordon Freeman, Ryu (SF), Luigi, Pikachu, Dante (One Round)

Only people to go from 1st to 4th between rounds: Liquid Snake, Duke Nukem and Pikachu

Longest Streak of Wins: Link (5)
Second Longest: Cloud/Master Chief (4)
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/5/2007 11:27:31 AM | message detail
Speaking of which, I think it's time that we smoothly segue from this and start hyping up a Games Contest. We should be getting 64 spots, and unless we're shackled by eras again (>_>), we won't and shouldn't be seeing many oldies outside of Mario 3 (maybe original Mario Bros?), Zelda, and Tetris. That frees up a lot of space for newer games, especially ones that have been released since the first Games Contest. Let's see...

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Halo 2
Half-Life 2
Metal Gear Solid 3
World of Warcraft
Resident Evil 4
God of War
Guitar Hero
Kingdom Hearts II
Final Fantasy XII
Gears of War
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Bioshock
Halo 3
Mario Galaxy (?)
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (?)

That's quite a list of worthy contenders, and it'll probably need to be trimmed a bit. Regardless, trying to predict a makeshift mini bracket with just those 16 would probably be hell.
wavedash101 | Posted 11/5/2007 12:07:42 PM | message detail
Portal
Mass Effect

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Keno316 | Posted 11/5/2007 12:09:24 PM | message detail
I hope we don't get shackled to 1 game per series per gen again. I'd like to see how games like FF8, Majora's Mask and Link's Awakening would do...
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Haste_2 | Posted 11/5/2007 12:12:22 PM | message detail
For the record, there have only been TWO matches where 4th place received over 20% of the vote. They are... Leon/Pikachu/Vivi/Tidus, and Snake/L-Block/Sonic/Squall. I always THOUGHT those matches looked really pretty...

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ZFS | Posted 11/5/2007 1:06:36 PM | message detail
We shouldn't have games done by era again, or be limited that severely in terms of how many games per series we can get in, but there definitely has to be a cap of some kind. Otherwise, we're going to end up with something like this.

Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy 10
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 12
Final Fantasy Tactics

Ocarina of Time
A Link to the Past
Twilight Princess
Majora's Mask
The Wind Waker
Zelda 1

Super Mario Bros. 3
Super Mario World
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Galaxy
(Super Mario Bros.?)

Super Smash Bros. Melee
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
(Super Smash Bros.?)

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swirIdude | Posted 11/5/2007 1:07:04 PM | message detail
Brawl wins even if it's not out.
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Heroic Yuna | Posted 11/5/2007 1:14:14 PM | message detail
From ZFS Posted 11/5/2007 4:06:36 PM #065
We shouldn't have games done by era again, or be limited that severely in terms of how many games per series we can get in, but there definitely has to be a cap of some kind. Otherwise, we're going to end up with something like this.

Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy 10
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 12
Final Fantasy Tactics


I see nothing wrong with this. (Other than the fact that FF12 doesn't deserve a chance. >=/)
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Haste_2 | Posted 11/5/2007 1:14:56 PM | message detail
Add Magus/PW/Bomberman/Crash to 20+% 4th place finishers.

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smitelf | Posted 11/5/2007 2:07:33 PM | message detail
The problem with limiting games from the same series is the same as limiting characters from the same series - you end up with less popular games/characters in their place, making the contest less interesting and less "legitimate".

If all those Final Fantasy, Zelda, and Mario games can muster enough nominations to make it in, they should be allowed, IMO.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/5/2007 2:35:49 PM | message detail
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/5/2007 2:39:02 PM | message detail
A cap will only affect those three series (perhaps just Final Fantasy and Zelda). I wouldn't really have a problem one way or the other with a cap of five. Any more, and there's pretty much no need to have a cap; any less, and, well, I'm sure there a ton of people who don't want to be limited to three or four games from this site's two biggest series.

Of course, the problem with a five game cap, like HM pointed out, is that we could be seeing several representatives from series which really don't deserve them. While I don't think Smash Bros. will be the culprit here (we all know Brawl will make it, Melee deserves to make it, and I'd be shocked if the original got enough noms), but I'll be damned if the bracket has more than one Phoenix Wright game.
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MnMZero | Posted 11/5/2007 2:39:02 PM | message detail
The problem with limiting games from the same series is the same as limiting characters from the same series - you end up with less popular games/characters in their place, making the contest less interesting and less "legitimate".

There are a hell of a lot more popular games than there are characters. We definitely wouldn't be scraping for games that would break the fodder line like we do for characters. And there are so many popular games out there that it's impossible to fit them all into one contest. Better to avoid overkilling one series than to leave out popular games from another series entirely.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/5/2007 2:55:56 PM | message detail
If we cap series, we leave out deserving games, but if we don't cap Final Fantasy/Mario/Zelda makes up half the field. There's an easy solution to this - expand the field! 128 game contest, woo!
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smitelf | Posted 11/5/2007 2:58:50 PM | message detail
There are a hell of a lot more popular games than there are characters. We definitely wouldn't be scraping for games that would break the fodder line like we do for characters.

Good point. But the fifth most popular LoZ game (Wind Waker maybe?) could beat a hell of a lot of other games, even non-fodder, and why shouldn't it? I don't see the point of bias against popular games that happen to be from a popular series. If a game is good enough to get enough nominations, it should be allowed in. Handicaps are for the weak. >:)

I don't really think it will be a problem anyway, as long as we aren't limited by era. You'll see maybe 3 FF games make the cut (7, 8, 10), 3-4 Mario games (SMB, SMB3, SM64, SMG), and a handful of Zelda. That still leaves dozens of places for everyone else.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/5/2007 3:00:03 PM | message detail
here are the 64 games I would want in a game contest:

Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy X
Zelda 1
Zelda: LTTP
Zelda: OOT
Zelda: TP
Mario 3
Mario World

Mario 64
Mario Galaxy
Halo
Halo 3
God of War 2
Resident Evil 4
Goldeneye 007
Tetris
Super Smash Bros Melee
Super Smash Bros Brawl (if it's out)

Chrono Trigger
Bioshock
GTA: SA
Mega Man 2
Sonic 3
Devil May Cry
Castlevania: SOTN
Super Metroid
Metroid Prime
Metal Gear Solid

Metal Gear Solid 3
Kirby Super Star
Gears of War
Pokemon Red
Pokemon Diamond
Half-Life 2
Oblivion
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
Tales of Symphonia

Phoenix Wright
Okami
Starcraft
Pac-Man
Street Fighter II
Soul Calibur
Dragon Quest VIII
SA2: Battle
Diablo II
World of Warcraft

Chrono Cross
Fire Emblem
Guitar Hero II
Doom
GTA: VC
DKC2
Half-Life
Metal Gear Solid 2
God of War
Resident Evil 2

Silent Hill 2
Mortal Kombat 2
Mega Man X
Earthbound

take these 64, make a GOOD bracket (VERY difficult to do -- go ahead and try, you'll see what I mean), and you could have the best contest ever.

did I miss anything?
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trannyscience | Posted 11/5/2007 3:03:51 PM | message detail
128 games doesn't really fix the problem, it just allows more Nintendo domination for an extra round. check out this final eight:

FF7
Mario 3

OOT
CT

LTTP
SSBM

Zelda: TP
SSBB

see the problem? scale it back one round and it's even worse, just add the Square titles in. the best you can do is set up tons of Square/Nintendo matches and hope it balances itself out.

I'd honestly have no problem with a cap of 2 per series. it'd snub a few strong entrants, no doubt, but I think it might be better in the spirit of balance.
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swirIdude | Posted 11/5/2007 3:09:01 PM | message detail
but I'll be damned if the bracket has more than one Phoenix Wright game.

Unless Board 8 decides on one game to nominate, it is going to be Mega Man'd and miss the contest entirely.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/5/2007 3:10:31 PM | message detail
Yeah, and I think we've all had our fill of uniquely structured contests for a while. A 128-entrant bracket would either result in two matches a day or a first round that lasts a day longer than the entire contest we just had. I don't think either of those are very favorable options. One bracket, 64 games, traditional format, no era restrictions, yadda yadda yadda.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/5/2007 3:12:26 PM | message detail
yep, what yoblazer said.

I mean, I wouldn't mind 128 games (assuming you're doing 2 per day - 4 games battling per day seems kind of.. forced), but it'd take two months just to finish the first round.
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paraboxx | Posted 11/5/2007 3:18:40 PM | message detail
If we cap series, we leave out deserving games, but if we don't cap Final Fantasy/Mario/Zelda makes up half the field. There's an easy solution to this - expand the field! 128 game contest, woo!

I like this solution, myself. It could very well result in more Nintendomination, but it would still allow in games from other companies that would otherwise be overlooked. If they lose, well, they deserve to - but they also deserve to be given a shot. 128 slots would give them a much better chance.

I don't want another 4-way poll next time, though.
And a 1-on-1 contest with 128 entrants would take months.

Two polls running at once, maybe?

Seems okay to me....
swirIdude | Posted 11/5/2007 3:25:56 PM | message detail
I like the two polls at once idea as long as they're next to each other on the front page.

SBAllen might not like making double the match pics though.
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greatone10 | Posted 11/5/2007 3:26:30 PM | message detail
I don't know if running two polls per day is a good idea. How many people do you think will bother to vote for both?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/5/2007 3:27:09 PM | message detail
How do we send feedback, again? I'd like to thank Allen for the great contest and request a 64-games contest for next year.

And what links can we follow to get to the feedback button?
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greatone10 | Posted 11/5/2007 3:27:49 PM | message detail
SBAllen might not like making double the match pics though.

If it's for the first round, it's not that big of a deal. He'll probably be like Ceej and just use boxarts, which takes five seconds with Google Image Search.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/5/2007 3:31:35 PM | message detail
Doesn't GameFAQs have box art now?
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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/5/2007 4:09:07 PM | message detail
You can send the ticket using the feedback form located here.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/feedback/

You'd want that as the top option under Contests.

Regarding Games, I still say that so many exciting new titles in the last four years, plus so many were snubbed due to the format, that we could easily create a 128 bracket with very little fodder. Here was the 128 solution I came up with earlier this year, and which I still like.


From: Haste_2 | Posted: 3/22/2007 10:57:37 PM | Message Detail
I say we should have a 128-game bracket... and have two matches per day for Round 1, and maybe Round 2, as well. Whenever you entered the site or refreshed it would randomly pick one of the matches. The casual visitors would randomly vote in one of the matches and move on, while the more diligent contest participants would refresh until they voted in both matches.
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From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 3/22/2007 11:56:06 PM | Message Detail
That's an okay enough idea, Haste, but I'd hate to see good first/second round matches earning only 60k votes. I think what we should do instead is to have two Polls, one right on top of the other. HOWEVER, every time you visit the page one would randomly be picked as the top poll, and might switch on a refresh. That way both polls ought to be noticed, and in equal numbers. (I can already hear complaints of "StarCraft only didn't finish that comeback because b.neters coming to the site only noticed the Devil May Cry/Perfect Dark match on top!")

Also, the vote results page ought to read "Vote accepted. Now vote in StarCraft vs Kingdom Hearts 2."
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 3/23/2007 12:12:29 AM | Message Detail
The one thing that I would see happen with Haste's idea is that the contest-faithfuls will have a bit more of a say-so in the match-ups. I wouldn't mind so much, but as if this year isn't going to be crazy enough...

...I do like Ngamer's idea though.
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From: Haste_2 | Posted: 3/23/2007 12:16:30 AM | Message Detail
Yes, Ngamer's idea is better... let's petition to Ceej for that next time the game contest nominations roll around.


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trannyscience | Posted 11/5/2007 4:10:26 PM | message detail
with all due respect, I think that idea is awful. either run one a day for four months or cut the thing to 64.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/5/2007 4:13:09 PM | message detail
Awfully... brilliant, you say?

Thanks tranman!

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trannyscience | Posted 11/5/2007 4:17:45 PM | message detail
nay, good sir! the games contest does not need gimmicky ideas to make it interesting; it is naturally interesting on the basis of it not being stale in any way, shape or form. let us run with it traditionally before trying to find ways to add spice to it. no point in trying to come up with a twist when the contest needs no twist.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/5/2007 4:29:02 PM | message detail
Well I think the most important thing is that we all agree that 128, 64, OR 128 two-a-days would be fantastic, just so long as we get a traditional-format Games Contest.

But in defense of 2-a-days, I just can't see voter interest being maintained for a four month Contest. After a little over a month of polls I always notice a little bit of a lull in stats and on the board, but in the past we've always been able to get over that quickly because hey, about to move into a new round, and wow, look at these cool R2 matchups, and just think, only 16 days from now we'll be seeing some really heavy-hitting polls!

I think it would be deadly to let that lull set in and then have people realize wait a minute, we've still got a whole half of this "boring" first round to go! Well, not deadly, but I do see excitement dying off for a while, no matter how close or unexpected the results coming in are.

2-a-days would be great in terms of getting a ton of different series and games represented, and yet being able to burn through that first round while still under that initial wave of excitement. Plus, it would be easy to cut back to the normal 1 poll once we reached the Sweet 16 and every match was noteworthy from there out.

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ZFS | Posted 11/5/2007 4:29:42 PM | message detail
I like what tran came up with in regards to the 64 games. I think it may be missing a couple (FFT, notably, but I guess that's where the cap comes in -- argh), but that looks pretty solid.

One of the reasons, I think, a cap should be implemented is primarily to limit the representation that Nintendo gets. I'm not saying that out of hate, or bias or whatever, but if you start pushing half of the bracket being games from Nintendo, making a good one seems like it's going to be difficult, what with the SFF all over the place. Square is limited more to Final Fantasy than anything, and while they too would have plenty in there, I don't think it'd be as widespread as Nintendo -- although those two are going to have to the top games no matter what kind of cap you implement, so that isn't a problem.

Diversity is the key here. Like mnm mentioned, we wouldn't be hurting for strong non-Nintendo, non-Final Fantasy entries. They may not be as strong, but it's worth it to have more of them to create more interesting matches than having to work around all of the SFF that would be in play without a cap. Just what I think, anyway.

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wavedash101 | Posted 11/5/2007 4:33:58 PM | message detail
Lack of Sonic 2 and SF 64 is disturbing

Also needs more Portal
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Heroic Yuna | Posted 11/5/2007 4:34:02 PM | message detail
Why DMC instead of DMC3? o.O
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 11/5/2007 4:36:20 PM | message detail
I'd just like FFVIII to get in this time. I think it would be the second strongest FF game behind VII. It's always a little behind X in those favorite polls, but VII is almost assuredly LFFing it a ton.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/5/2007 4:39:03 PM | message detail
give me 7 > 10 > 8. I always thought I'd be in the minority though.

DMC is more popular than DMC3. that seems natural. didn't even think of SF64, you can add that in if you want Nintendo game #30 in a bracket of 64. thought about Portal, but let's be honest -- it's not that popular site-wide.
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wavedash101 | Posted 11/5/2007 4:39:13 PM | message detail
I think FFVIII would get antivoted alot

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wavedash101 | Posted 11/5/2007 4:41:09 PM | message detail
We shall see tranny...I'm certain Portal makes it in if we get a games contest this spring, Orange Box is pretty popular

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ZFS | Posted 11/5/2007 4:41:34 PM | message detail
I think FF8 would pull in right behind FF10 and FF6. I don't know that I could see it being the second strongest Final Fantasy -- it's not that loved.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/5/2007 4:43:18 PM | message detail
Whoa whoa! I completely agree, Games will be so great that no "twist" or "gimmick" is required at all. If you're looking at 2-a-days as a kind of twist, then I can see why you're so set against it. Personally though I'm just looking at it as one possible way to get all of these cool, traditional, non-gimmick results through in a reasonable timeframe. But like I said earlier, 64 is clearly the easier approach to reach the same solution, so if that's the decision in the end I'll of course happily support it.

From what HM is saying, yes I see the point, but the great thing about Games is, even with all that Nintendo SFF lurking, I think a whole lots of the matches would STILL be very interesting and debatable beforehand. Like say...

Zelda 1 v Wind Waker
Zelda 1 v Twilight Princess
Mario 3 v Super Mario World
Majora's Mask v Wind Waker
Super Metroid v Metroid Prime
Melee v Link to the Past

Now in the end the Nintendo fanbase is going to lean one way more than the other and the winner will take it going away, but even so, you could make a good case for taking either choice beforehand in any of those polls, IMO.

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trannyscience | Posted 11/5/2007 4:44:09 PM | message detail
am I wrong in thinking that anyone that's played Portal would vote for the WCC? yet, it's got less than 20%. no way is it close to Half-Life, and while that's no crime, it really doesn't warrant a spot when talking about the 64 strongest games of all time.

that said, it may very well make the field. a lot of fodder surely will. those are just my 64 choices for games that deserve to be there. I have no problem with cutting a MGS or a GTA game for Portal.
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