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swirIdude | Posted 11/2/2007 2:08:48 PM | message detail
It's all about the L-Block!

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
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http://www.sc2k5.com
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Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
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*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
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Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
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*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html


*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm


*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php


*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 10 Lists:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2002stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2003stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july2006stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2006stats.htm

RPguy's Hourly Poll Updates:
www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/contest.html

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://adamrose.mit.edu/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10

Manual Poll Updater:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/pollupdate.php

L-Block > Link > Cloud
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__Smurf__ | Posted 11/2/2007 2:10:31 PM | message detail
ugh. It's L-block this and L-block that. But nobody's saying WORSHIP this or Jericho that!
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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 11/2/2007 2:11:21 PM | message detail
OMG too early
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Pondos | Posted 11/2/2007 3:23:51 PM | message detail
Now we can post here.
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Pondos | Posted 11/2/2007 3:24:29 PM | message detail
Tomorrow will go L-Block>Snake.

The PS2 fanboys will be split 75-25 between Snake and Dante, in favor of Snake. Nintendo fanboys will go about 20% Snake and 80% L-Block. Master Chief will get the Microsoft vote. So Master Chief will beat Dante. But it won't matter, because they'll both lose to Snake, who will lose to L-Block.

L-Block 37%
Snake 35%
Master Chief 17%
Dante 11%
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Corrik | Posted 11/2/2007 3:26:10 PM | message detail
I predict Master Chief > L Block.
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Heroic Yuna | Posted 11/2/2007 3:26:21 PM | message detail
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swirIdude | Posted 11/2/2007 3:35:47 PM | message detail
Mine too.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2007 3:45:42 PM | message detail
woo
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Merc25 | Posted 11/2/2007 3:51:51 PM | message detail
Time for the completely inaccurate baseless contest prediction.

I think think it will be a 3-way dead heat for 1st.
L-Block, the monster we made-------------------------------------- 28.8%
Solid Snake, the one we love----------------------------------------- 29.3%
Master Chief , Believe in the Green one---------------- 28.7%
Dante, a master of poetry he is not but of swords and guns- 13.2%

I also believe that 300 or less will separate 1st and 3rd.


red(Dante) and green(MC) at war = a bloody Christmas battlefield.
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Heroic Yuna | Posted 11/2/2007 3:53:55 PM | message detail
From Merc25 Posted 11/2/2007 6:51:51 PM #010
Time for the completely inaccurate baseless contest prediction.

I think think it will be a 3-way dead heat for 1st.
L-Block, the monster we made-------------------------------------- 28.8%
Solid Snake, the one we love----------------------------------------- 29.3%
Master Chief , Believe in the Green one---------------- 28.7%
Dante, a master of poetry he is not but of swords and guns- 13.2%

I also believe that 300 or less will separate 1st and 3rd.


red(Dante) and green(MC) at war = a bloody Christmas battlefield.


So you expect 50000 total votes?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/2/2007 3:54:42 PM | message detail
maths
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Merc25 | Posted 11/2/2007 3:55:55 PM | message detail
So you expect 50000 total votes?


did I or did I not say completely inaccurate baseless
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Keno316 | Posted 11/2/2007 3:56:47 PM | message detail
L-Block 37%
Snake 35%
Master Chief 17%
Dante 11%



Lawl, L-Block over 30%...
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creativename | Posted 11/2/2007 4:08:43 PM | message detail
Who posted that? L-Block could get over 30%, this is an easier fourpack than last round. But 37% is virtually out of the question. It's not certain he'll even end the first hour that high. But that's probably a for-fun prediction anyway :)

Chief's best hope is that L-Block truly is static and gets his 28%, and that Snake/Dante split enough for Chief to juuust squeeze by L-Block.

Now normally I would call hoping for a Snake/Dante split to be silly, however while Snake/Dante shouldn't overlap any abnormal amout, they should very likely overlap more than Dante/Chief and Snake/Chief. Since Chief should have very little overlap with Sony characters. One would actually expect pretty much any two characters to overlap more with each other than Chief and anybody.

But, I don't think that's a very significant factor. It does give hope to Chief though.
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Seginustemple | Posted 11/2/2007 4:11:15 PM | message detail
The block betta not end up above 30%....
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paraboxx | Posted 11/2/2007 4:15:44 PM | message detail
Here's something fun and useless about L-Block that just occured to me.

Remember how, before the contest, people were talking about first- and second-place characters swapping places between rounds? Like Ryu and Bowser, for example, or Master Chief and Yuna.

The only time this wound up happening is with freaking Snake and L-Block.

Yeah.
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/2/2007 4:17:15 PM | message detail
L-Block ---29
Master Chief --- 26.45
Snake --- 25.55
Dante -- 19
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Heroic Yuna | Posted 11/2/2007 4:17:48 PM | message detail
From paraboxx Posted 11/2/2007 7:15:44 PM #017
Here's something fun and useless about L-Block that just occured to me.

Remember how, before the contest, people were talking about first- and second-place characters swapping places between rounds? Like Ryu and Bowser, for example, or Master Chief and Yuna.

The only time this wound up happening is with freaking Snake and L-Block.

Yeah.


Don't forget Link and Cloud.
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paraboxx | Posted 11/2/2007 4:19:16 PM | message detail
Oh yeah.

But that match hasn't happened yet, so.
Link The Hylian | Posted 11/2/2007 4:20:49 PM | message detail
I predict that Snake and L Block advance again next match, with MC in a close third and Dante dead last.

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BesaidGuy | Posted 11/2/2007 4:26:09 PM | message detail
With Sephiroth in the poll, that's going to be difficult, but I think if Cloud can get within 5% of Link here he would be a big favorite to take it to the fairy boy next round.

After Link's inability to really SFF Mario last round, it should be interesting to see what happens here between him and Samus. Personally, I think Samus is going to fall apart here. I'm not sure that I buy Link has “lost” his ability to SFF Nintendo competition, and there's a good chance that Mario had some reason to overperform last round with Galaxy right around the corner – if you believe that matters. That said, I wouldn't be too surprised if she did manage to hold up relatively well. Link might have to start worrying then.



Link – 35%
Cloud – 30%
Sephiroth – 25%
Samus – 10%



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trannyscience | Posted 11/2/2007 4:27:47 PM | message detail
he'll predict Cloud for first tomorrow, too, just because CLOUD IS COOLER AND PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE THAT WAY
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paraboxx | Posted 11/2/2007 4:30:13 PM | message detail
Also, in going back over the previous topic, I've noticed several people whose theories/predictions have been repeatedly blown out of the water continuing to spout new theories/predictions as if they were incontrovertible truths. Rather than calling you out, asking you why you keep making fools of yourselves, asking everyone else in the topic why you allow this sort of behavior, and/or smacking you all repeatedly, I've decided to simply join in.

1) Dante will get 12% tomorrow;
2) Master Chief will not get over 25;
3) Snake and L-Block will have another battle for first, which Snake will (sadly) win before dawn; and
4) There is no way in hell Cloud will beat Link in the final.

I'm tempted to say the same about L-Block beating either of them...but I'm far too much of an L-Block fanboy for that.
creativename | Posted 11/2/2007 4:39:50 PM | message detail
My average expectations for Chief are around the 25% range tomorrow, but I think he's more likely to get 27%-28+% then to fall to 22%-23% and under.

He should be much more in contention than Sonic, but it'll be a real struggle. My guess is he'll be down 2K-6K votes by the time he starts steamrolling the day vote. Anything over 3K would be pretty difficult to turn around - with the format, it's much harder to swing a particular deficit since you're getting like 30% of the vote rather than 60% of the vote.

L-Block will probably be getting 30% or upper 20's throughout the day, so Chief would probably need like regular mid 30's hours to turn around a big deficit...and I don't see how he can do that when he's only the 2nd strongest non-L-Block character in the poll.
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Master Moltar | Posted 11/2/2007 4:48:59 PM | message detail
Also, in going back over the previous topic, I've noticed several people whose theories/predictions have been repeatedly blown out of the water continuing to spout new theories/predictions as if they were incontrovertible truths. Rather than calling you out, asking you why you keep making fools of yourselves, asking everyone else in the topic why you allow this sort of behavior, and/or smacking you all repeatedly, I've decided to simply join in.

Someone's learning what it means to be a respected stats topic regular!
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creativename | Posted 11/2/2007 4:49:47 PM | message detail
So wait, do you actually believe these things or are just saying random stuff? Because I could see you believing 3 and 4, don't know about the other stuff.

1) Dante will get 12% tomorrow;
2) Master Chief will not get over 25;
3) Snake and L-Block will have another battle for first, which Snake will (sadly) win before dawn; and
4) There is no way in hell Cloud will beat Link in the final.


Dante should collapse, I could easily see him under 15%, but 12%? That would be truly horrible. I'd almost be inclined to say he really was getting outright SFFed by Snake if that happened, because that would be an even greater collapse than your weakest character usually pulls.

Chief's probably even money to get 25%.

3 is probably true - if Snake wants to win he better be right there before dawn, because lord knows he's not making much inroads the rest of the day.

It's funny though...I think Snake will win here, but to do so, he needs to take the lead (or close to) by morning. Yet I have trouble seeing L-Block leading for such a "short" period of time.

Cloud has a chance, especially with L-Block wildness and this contest's unpredictability...but I'm almost tempted to say Link>L-Block is more likely that Cloud>Link, as disgusting as that is. I don't think that's actually true though - I don't think L gets his standard 29%-30% in the final. Too much competition.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/2/2007 4:49:49 PM | message detail
Moltar, as usual, is 100% correct.

I'm seeing some Link./Sephiroth SFF here - I mean think about it he looked bad in the battle royale too and oh god Samus my world help someone fix it
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greatone10 | Posted 11/2/2007 4:55:35 PM | message detail
Remember how, before the contest, people were talking about first- and second-place characters swapping places between rounds? Like Ryu and Bowser, for example, or Master Chief and Yuna.

The only time this wound up happening is with freaking Snake and L-Block.


That may have been the only time it happened between first and second, but there were a few more instances of one character finishing above a character that beat it last round. Alucard/Liquid, Snake/Riku, Gordon/Duke.
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paraboxx | Posted 11/2/2007 5:01:03 PM | message detail
Dante should collapse, I could easily see him under 15%, but 12%? That would be truly horrible.

True, but we've certainly seen worse. Vincent comes to mind, though he had a damn good excuse. I don't believe it with a passion, I'm not going to defend it to the death (or at all)...but I do believe it.

Chief, meanwhile, folds like cheap laundry against stiffer competition (Snake) and an even more loyal fanbase (Block). Book it, as they say.
dethfdddddh | Posted 11/2/2007 5:07:16 PM | message detail
Speaking of "zombie theories", has the stats topic made any conclusions about the following recurring anomalies:

West Division Factor
20XX Factor
Devil Division Factor
Sonic/Megaman against Snake?
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trannyscience | Posted 11/2/2007 5:13:17 PM | message detail
oh, god.

WDF - lol 2002 is the general consensus, I think, though you can probably point to Mario's side of the bracket as being the anomaly, if you want to go that route.

20XXDF - dear god, I don't even remember what this is.. *looks*

oh, is that Snake/Frog/Mega Man shooting Snake in the face? or MM/Tidus? I lean towards it all being legit.. unless this is MM/Link, in which case I think that was proven by MM/Yoshi. I don't know what this is anymore.

DDF - a myth. if 2006 didn't disprove it, Vincent/Crono this year did.

now, Dream Division Factor? very real.

Sonic/MM vs. Snake - I think MM overperformed simply because I'm hesitant to accept stat values otherwise. the easier conclusion there is to throw 2k6's stats out the window, but if I had to point to an anomaly, it'd be MM doing too well on Snake, or Sonic doing too poorly.

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trannyscience | Posted 11/2/2007 5:14:09 PM | message detail
well, 20XX being legit except for Frog/Snake, of course. Snake just sucked that year, and CT did great. and then there's the picture.
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ZFS | Posted 11/2/2007 5:16:13 PM | message detail
CLOUD IS COOLER AND PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE THAT WAY

Tran gets it!

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Gooper Blooper | Posted 11/2/2007 5:21:25 PM | message detail
It's all "legit". It happened right here on GameFAQs in a character battle. Doesn't get any more legit than that.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 11/2/2007 5:39:03 PM | message detail
DDF - a myth. if 2006 didn't disprove it, Vincent/Crono this year did.

I thought DDF was the over performance of Vincent against Crono, likely due to AC releasing just before the match, which over rated the rest of the division. Not sure how Vincent/Crono would disprove that. Knuckles and Magus bombing would seem to support it.
trannyscience | Posted 11/2/2007 5:43:07 PM | message detail
well, yes, but it was the reason for the overperformance - the AC leak days before the match - that ceased existing in 2007.

also, 2006 didn't have Knuckles or Magus, but it did have Dante (who looked legit), Squall (who looked pretty good when compared to Sonic's performance on Snake), and Vincent (who, again, looked pretty good when compared to Sonic). if there's something there, it's really hidden.

to be honest, the best excuse for Knuckles and Magus is the overperformance on Squall.
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Lopen | Posted 11/2/2007 6:03:23 PM | message detail
Thank you to EC for being the only one that doesn't take my stuff strictly literal.

No, I don't literally mean voter floor. I just mean he's going to have a helluva hard time getting driven really low. No I don't literally mean 30%. It's an estimate. Yes, I could see MC getting high 20s in the finals.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 11/2/2007 6:05:19 PM | message detail
Well, Vincent and Squall should have looked good. Vincent still had AC along with DoC. Squall had KH2. And I'd say the only reason Dante looked good was Yoshi vs. Solid ****.
trannyscience | Posted 11/2/2007 6:06:38 PM | message detail
yeah, you can say that.

Dante (2006c) VS Dante (2005c)

Dante has a strength of 36.43.
Dante has a strength of 32.73.

Dante wins with 55.08% of the vote!
A win of 11,800 with 116,185 total votes cast.

but even when you adjust him down, he looks about the same.
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ZFS | Posted 11/2/2007 6:07:42 PM | message detail
At this point I'd be surprised if Master Chief even made the finals, but if he did I could see him, at best, getting 20%. He isn't hanging with Cloud and Link.

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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/2/2007 6:08:27 PM | message detail
If Master Chief has a fanbase that could give him a high 20's result against Link, Cloud, and L-Block/Solid Snake, then his core fanbase plays Halo and only Halo. If they play Halo and only Halo, they have no reason to be here. I'm expecting Chief to look pretty bad today, and sadly, we won't get to see how he'd look in the finals.
Lopen | Posted 11/2/2007 6:19:10 PM | message detail
If Master Chief has a fanbase that could give him a high 20's result against Link, Cloud, and L-Block/Solid Snake, then his core fanbase plays Halo and only Halo

Uh huh. That's clearly exactly what it means. And I suppose the people who get Link really high in any given match play Zelda and only Zelda.

I'm tired of arguing this anyway. If Chief flops tomorrow, you can all laugh at me and EC and all the other MC supporters and say we were wrong, but quit saying there's condemning evidence to the contrary when there really isn't.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/2/2007 6:22:22 PM | message detail
no, Link is legitimately strong. stretch him 15 ways and he'll lose a lot of votes, no doubt about that.

meanwhile, we've seen Master Chief for years, and he's yet to get to that elite level. maybe he is this year, who knows?, but the argument you're using is that his fanbase is sickly loyal, and we just haven't seen evidence of that at all. it's all belief.

which is cool, but tough to argue.
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creativename | Posted 11/2/2007 6:23:06 PM | message detail
Thank you to EC for being the only one that doesn't take my stuff strictly literal.

If you don't actually mean what you say, you probably shouldn't say what you say, know what I'm saying ;)

Yes, I could see MC getting high 20s in the finals.

This is just...madness! (even if Chief wears Spartan etc...)

Or do you actually mean "high teens" and high 20's is not literal :)
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smitelf | Posted 11/2/2007 6:28:30 PM | message detail
Wow, people sure are predicting Dante to do badly. MC isn't that much stronger than he is. I guess it depends on if Snake manages to beat Dante down or not.

But MC get 25%? I'd be surprised. Snake and, apparently, L-Block are in a different league.
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Lopen | Posted 11/2/2007 6:35:39 PM | message detail
but the argument you're using is that his fanbase is sickly loyal, and we just haven't seen evidence of that at all. it's all belief.

The evidence is in the format and how well he's doing. A good reason to do so well in four way polls is being resistant to having your fanbase torn apart so easily. Yeah, he's dropped, but as I've said before stick L-Block against weaker opponents and he'd have started way higher and had a subsequent drop too.

What do you think it is that's buffing him up? Entirely the benefit of removed anti-votes? Halo 3 is doing that much?
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ZFS | Posted 11/2/2007 6:49:03 PM | message detail
The evidence is in the format and how well he's doing. A good reason to do so well in four way polls is being resistant to having your fanbase torn apart so easily. Yeah, he's dropped, but as I've said before stick L-Block against weaker opponents and he'd have started way higher and had a subsequent drop too.

Squall had a similar thing going for him, too. His first three rounds were 35%, 33%, and then 31% -- and that's with a good chance of him being hindered by other characters. When he was stuck up against two Snake, Sonic and L-Block, he pulled in just above 20%. You could say it's a bit different for Squall since there where Square characters in the poll, but I don't see how that could possibly be skewed as something favorable for him.

There may not be anything to show that Master Chief absolutely cannot do it, but it's a very good bet that he doesn't have a minimum percentage of 28% that will vote for him over every single character without fail. The stronger Chief's competition, the more and more he comes down in percentage. You can still make the argument, but it's understandable why people think it's a bit crazy.

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trannyscience | Posted 11/2/2007 6:52:10 PM | message detail
either way, every single character who's gone up against a "joke character" has come away with a bad percentage. even Link.

for Master Chief to pull this out today, he's got to go from Luigi/Pikachu to Snake/Block and not lose any percentage. (this is, of course, assuming L will never fold - it sure looks that way, though)

he has a chance, but not a great one. I'd put it at 30% that he tops the Block, and another 5-10% that he'll beat Snake due to "LFF" or whatever
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Lopen | Posted 11/2/2007 6:52:42 PM | message detail
What Squall did compared to expectations is nothing compared to what Master Chief did. I understand why people are skeptical of my arguments, but really. Hell, if anything Squall did just about what was expected I think. I don't believe Oracle consensuses were too far off for him on any of his matches.
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