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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 542

Gaddswell | Posted 11/1/2007 9:27:18 PM | message detail
Whoa, so L-Block held the lead after all. >_>

From hochiminh155 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:01:52 PM | #061
Wha... what is going on???? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

So much for Cloud > Link!
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:27:21 PM | message detail
Cloud/Sephiroth with over 38% now 25 minutes in.....they should rise a lot more than Seph/Vincent did last round though, so Cloud probably won't end up looking too bad. If Cloud/Sephiroth SFF is more severe than Link/Samus SFF, perhaps Cloud will get a greater share of Sephiroth's votes also?

We're already about 400 votes ahead of yesterday's pace as far as vote totals go- perhaps caused by voters staying for the close of yesterday's match. I believe FFVII/OOT got off to a tremendous start in terms of votals, due to being right after CT/LTTP, but by the end of the day, FFVII/OOT votals were actually lower than CT/LTTP votals.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/1/2007 9:28:19 PM | message detail
yeah, he probably does hurt Link more, at least in the early going. here's a probable result with the BOP bracket:

Link - 40%
Cloud - 25%
Snake - 20%
Sonic - 15%

now it'll look like this:

L-Block - 38%
Link - 25%
Cloud - 20%
Snake - 17%

but after that early vote? it's probably even.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2007 9:28:26 PM | message detail
The best thing so far is Samus' performance. Apparently she's growing a little resistant to SFF.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:29:31 PM | message detail
What do you mean? Samus held up pretty damn well in 2003, did she not? Of course, in 2003 Link was essentially borderline fodder with his piss-poor performance over Magus.

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Haste_2 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:29:45 PM | message detail
Mario officially gets the title of "King of SFF" now. There's no room for doubt.

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ZFS | Posted 11/1/2007 9:30:01 PM | message detail
Samus is going to end up looking better than anticipated, but I'm waiting a bit to see how far she drops -- it should be pretty big.


Cloud is going to have to rely on LLLF - L-block Leeching Link Factor - to win :)

i fully support this factor and would like to see it happen imho

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Keno316 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:30:02 PM | message detail
The best thing so far is Samus' performance. Apparently she's growing a little resistant to SFF.


Or...Link is just sucking with it this year...
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trannyscience | Posted 11/1/2007 9:30:37 PM | message detail
actually, I'm liking Cloud for that award.
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BDawg | Posted 11/1/2007 9:31:23 PM | message detail
The worst part of the excessively pro-Nintendo board vote is watching them come down to earth.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:31:28 PM | message detail
Highest Votals:

01. 157822 - Yoshi vs Knuckles vs Rikku vs Vaan (Round 1)
02. 154165 - L-Block vs Snake vs Sonic vs Squall (Round 4)
03. 150678 - Samus vs Mega Man vs Yoshi vs Scorpion (Round 3)
04. 149215 - Auron vs Shadow vs Pyramid Head vs Chris (Round 1)
05. 148199 - Master Chief vs Yuna vs Alucard vs Liquid (Round 2)
06. 146749 - Link vs Bidoof vs Edgeworth vs Agent J (Round 1)
07. 146092 - Cloud vs Marcus vs Ocelot vs Kefka (Round 2)
08. 145234 - Link vs Vincent vs Bidoof vs Zelda (Round 2)
09. 144944 - Link vs Sephiroth vs Mario vs Vincent (Round 4)
10. 144533 - Cloud vs Samus vs Mega Man vs Ryu (Round 4)

L-Block almost unseats the first match.
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CaptainArticuno | Posted 11/1/2007 9:31:33 PM | message detail
wow, I knew L-block would leech recognizability votes off of Sonic, but not that many.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:32:15 PM | message detail
Cloud is the new King of SFF. Look what he's done to Midgar Zolom, Kefka, Auron and now Sephiroth. Is there no end to his madness?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/1/2007 9:32:48 PM | message detail
Mario gets that award for sure.

Mario SFFs all Nintendo characters (Link excluded). Mario SFFs Mega Man characters. Mario would most likely SFF Sonic characters. Mario could potentially SFF Snake.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:32:57 PM | message detail
Closest Matches by Vote Difference:

01. 0003 Liquid Snake/Alucard in Liquid Snake vs Alucard vs Ness vs Zidane (Round 1)
02. 0081 Phoenix/Bomberman in Magus vs Phoenix vs Bomberman vs Crash (Round 1)
03. 0128 Frog/Axel in Samus vs Frog vs Axel vs Kerrigan (Round 1)
04. 0264 L-Block/Snake in L-Block vs Snake vs Sonic vs Squall (Round 4)
05. 0346 The Boss/Tails in Vincent vs Zelda vs The Boss vs Tails (Round 1)
06. 0347 Arthas/Diablo in Mega Man vs KOS-MOS vs Diablo vs Arthas (Round 1)
07. 0372 Raiden/Fisher in Crono vs Raiden vs Fisher vs Simon (Round 1)
08. 0654 Riku/Hayabusa in Snake vs Riku vs Hayabusa vs Nightmare (Round 2)
09. 0776 Marcus/Ocelot in Cloud vs Marcus vs Ocelot vs Kefka (Round 2)
10. 0782 Duke/Gordon in Duke vs Gordon vs Ike vs Guybrush (Round 1)

After a stellar first round, most of the later matches really weren't that close.
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BDawg | Posted 11/1/2007 9:33:04 PM | message detail
Whoa I would have never imagined L-block could outdraw Pyramid Head and Chris freaking Redfield....seriously that list has no rhyme or reason.
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Lopen | Posted 11/1/2007 9:33:54 PM | message detail
Eh, I actually don't think it's just the board vote L-Block hurts Link in. I think L-Block will decimate the "old school" vote. And the only one that's a possibility to be hurt by that is Link. Not Cloud, not Master Chief, not Snake.

Look at Sonic. I mean, Snake is the favorite against him... but by that much? Hell no. L-Block SFFed Sonic, and Snake SFFed Squall a little too, probably.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:34:07 PM | message detail
Cloud/Seph: 38.86%
Vincent/Seph: 37.80%

Surprisingly even, seeing as how you're replacing a #10ish guy with Cloud and Mario with Samus.
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creativename | Posted 11/1/2007 9:34:35 PM | message detail
Mario officially gets the title of "King of SFF" now. There's no room for doubt.

Link still SFFed him though.

Can you really be the King of SFF if someone can still outright SFF you?
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trannyscience | Posted 11/1/2007 9:34:42 PM | message detail
Look at Sonic. I mean, Snake is the favorite against him... but by that much? Hell no. L-Block SFFed Sonic, and Snake SFFed Squall a little too, probably.

...no. :)
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hochiminh155 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:35:10 PM | message detail
I'm honestly not convinced L Block hurts Link more than Cloud... Squall did surprisingly poor yesterday and you know, Kirby held up pretty well against Block. Honestly, we'll have to wait until the final because this is all baseless conjecture
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:35:23 PM | message detail
One more:

All Time Lowest Prediction Percentages:

01. 02.35% - L-Block in L-Block vs Snake vs Sonic vs Squall (2007 Characters Quarterfinal)
02. 03.48% - L-Block in Snake vs L-Block vs Kratos vs Riku (2007 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
03. 06.04% - (1) Cloud Strife vs (2) Sephiroth (2003 Characters Final)
04. 06.67% - L-Block in Kratos vs L-Block vs Kirby vs Donkey Kong (2007 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
05. 07.16% - (2) Super Smash Bros. Melee vs (16) StarCraft (2004 Games Quarterfinal)
06. 07.91% - (16) StarCraft vs (5) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (2004 Games Sweet Sixteen)
07. 08.52% - Link vs Cloud Strife vs Solid Snake (2006 Battle Royale Day 4)
08. 09.38% - Amaterasu in Dante vs Amaterasu vs Ada vs Balthier (2007 Characters Round 2)
09. 09.96% - Link vs Cloud Strife vs Sephiroth vs Solid Snake vs Mario (2006 Characters Battle Royale Day 2)
10. 10.94% - Vincent in Link vs Vincent vs Crono vs Zero (2007 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
11. 12.47% - (5) Vincent Valentine vs (2) Squall Leonhart (2005 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
12. 12.54% - (1) Samus Aran vs (1) Solid Snake (2006 Characters Final)
13. 12.80% - (2) Link vs (1) Mario (2002 Characters Final)
14. 13.31% - (1) Sonic the Hedgehog vs (1) Crono (2006 Characters Quarterfinal)
15. 13.37% - (1) Cloud Strife vs (1) Link (2003 Characters Semifinal)
16. 14.18% - (2) Super Smash Bros. Melee vs (3) Final Fantasy X (2004 Games Quarterfinal)
17. 14.50% - (2) Mega Man vs (1) Solid Snake (2003 Characters Quartefinal)
18. 14.60% - (5) Crono vs (2) Solid Snake (2002 Characters Quarterfinal)
19. 14.76% - (7) Diablo vs (1) Kefka (2005 Villains Quarterfinal)
20. 15.07% - Big Boss in Mario vs Big Boss vs Magus vs Phoenix (2007 Characters Round 2)
21. 15.62% - (16) StarCraft vs (9) Kingdom Hearts (2004 Games Round 2)
22. 17.30% - (5) Scorpion vs (1) Pac-Man (2002 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
23. 17.39% - Ryu in Cloud vs Ryu vs Auron vs Marcus (2007 Characters Sweet Sixteen)
24. 17.83% - Link vs Cloud Strife vs Solid Snake vs Sephiroth (2006 Characters Battle Royale Day 3)
25. 20.27% - (7) Sub-Zero vs (2) Master Chief (2006 Characters Round 1)

2002 Characters: 3
2003 Characters: 3
2004 Games: 4
2004 Characters: 0
2005 Villains: 1
2005 Characters: 1
2006 Series: 0
2006 Characters: 6
2007 Characters: 7
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/1/2007 9:36:02 PM | message detail
Cloud doing a good job of shaking off the anti-vote at the beginning.

Sephiroth is... doing nothing
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Heroic Yuna | Posted 11/1/2007 9:36:12 PM | message detail
From red sox 777 Posted 11/2/2007 12:27:21 AM #152
Cloud/Sephiroth with over 38% now 25 minutes in.....they should rise a lot more than Seph/Vincent did last round though, so Cloud probably won't end up looking too bad. If Cloud/Sephiroth SFF is more severe than Link/Samus SFF, perhaps Cloud will get a greater share of Sephiroth's votes also?

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Lopen | Posted 11/1/2007 9:36:38 PM | message detail
What, Tranny, I'm serious! You're telling me Snake/Sonic goes 60-40 now? No damn way.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:36:43 PM | message detail
Why does L-Block hurt Link more, exactly? I'm not trying to sound like a smartass; I just want to know if there's a basis for this or if it's all gut.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/1/2007 9:37:35 PM | message detail
it's guesswork, really. the only "proof" is that Link has a killer early vote and now that will be going to the Block.
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creativename | Posted 11/1/2007 9:38:09 PM | message detail
Sephiroth is... doing nothing

Sephiroth will start rocking the night vote with those awe-inspiring 18% updates :)

...bah
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Lopen | Posted 11/1/2007 9:38:32 PM | message detail
The Tetris fanbase has more overlap with older series like Zelda.

Okay, sure, I'm not saying he's getting legitimate votes because he's "the heart of Tetris," but at the same time, people who are not Tetris fans will not appreciate the joke as much.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:39:25 PM | message detail
Nobody is voting for L-Block because they like Tetris. They're voting for it because it gives them their jollies
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 11/1/2007 9:39:40 PM | message detail
What, Tranny, I'm serious! You're telling me Snake/Sonic goes 60-40 now? No damn way.

In this format, where Snake is much beastlier than usual and Sonic is much weaker than normal? Hell yes.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/1/2007 9:39:42 PM | message detail
you don't even have to be a Tetris fan to "appreciate the joke". all you need to say is WHOA L BLOCK TETRIS AWESOME
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:40:14 PM | message detail
If anything, I figured the Nintendo "hive mind" would give Link the edge. He'll be the lone Nintendo rep, after all.
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ZFS | Posted 11/1/2007 9:40:57 PM | message detail
Hah. Well there's a good Sephiroth update!

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BDawg | Posted 11/1/2007 9:41:04 PM | message detail
Heh Cloud just tagged out to Sephiroth on that last update.
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creativename | Posted 11/1/2007 9:41:17 PM | message detail
L-Block should logically have overlap with Nintendo, if he has overlap with anything.

There's no real reason to think he'll hurt Link more than Cloud, but it's a wildcard.

Also, I'm starting to think he as a legit shot at #2 there, which I was thinking was almost impossible. Still don't see it happening - Cloud is getting 30%, he should get more than that in the final with Sephiroth gone...but what if L-Block's votes really are "untouchable", which I've been dubious of? Then Cloud's percent may actually not increase much, if at all, and L could finish ahead of him.

But would FF7 voters really vote a joke character...? They don't seem like the type, to me.
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Lopen | Posted 11/1/2007 9:41:28 PM | message detail
I know the point is it's a stupid ass brick.

My point is that people who never cared about Tetris at all would be that much less likely to find it funny.
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Seginustemple | Posted 11/1/2007 9:41:57 PM | message detail
I really, really hope that in the presence of Cloud, Link and Snake/MC, L-block just crumbles. I'm pretty sure he's a few leagues under Clinkeroth still, but if he starts pulling crazy 30%~ crap in that match it's going to feel like the final match was a sham no matter which way it goes otherwise.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/1/2007 9:42:44 PM | message detail
Geez, it doesn't really help your case FF7 characters, when Sephiroth increases and Cloud actually drops a bit
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BDawg | Posted 11/1/2007 9:43:31 PM | message detail
If we've gotten to the point where Snake/Chief has to be said in regards to the finals then I have no chance to survive.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:43:47 PM | message detail
If L-Block somehow places in the final, I can't possibly imagine it being over Link. Just try to envision Link losing twice in one match, and you'll see why.

You can't do it.
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The Real Truth | Posted 11/1/2007 9:44:14 PM | message detail
I love Tetris but the L-BLock fad is stupid. I haven't laughed at him winning once.
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creativename | Posted 11/1/2007 9:44:23 PM | message detail
Nobody is voting for L-Block because they like Tetris. They're voting for it because it gives them their jollies

Now you're just wrong here, nobody would give a crap about L-Block if Tetris wasn't the most highly played video game of all time.
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Draco1214 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:45:06 PM | message detail
The block was never funny.
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Seginustemple | Posted 11/1/2007 9:45:07 PM | message detail
If we've gotten to the point where Snake/Chief has to be said in regards to the finals then I have no chance to survive.

Hey man, I'm just trying not to piss off Lopen. If I had it my way, Snake and MC would both make it and the damn block would finally bow out.
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The Real Truth | Posted 11/1/2007 9:45:25 PM | message detail
Which is why it did so well in the games contest right?
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armitage999 | Posted 11/1/2007 9:46:23 PM | message detail
There are so many people in on the joke then if L-Block is such a joke character.
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Lopen | Posted 11/1/2007 9:46:30 PM | message detail
Damn straight you don't wanna piss me off...!! Master Chief's 30% ain't cavin believe.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/1/2007 9:46:48 PM | message detail
well, let's say L holds his 28%. unlikely? who knows at this point.

that leaves 72% for Link/Cloud/Snake. we've seen that match before..

Cloud Strife 35.71% 54057
Link 44.65% 67579
Solid Snake 19.64% 29733
TOTAL VOTES 151369

assume the same vote total, give them 72% of this and you get:

Cloud - 38921
Link - 48657
Snake - 21407
L-Block - 42384

...heh.
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BDawg | Posted 11/1/2007 9:46:57 PM | message detail
Obviously Tetris fans are more hardcore and numerous than Metal Gear and Sonic fans.
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