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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 537

PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/29/2007 9:35:20 PM | message detail
This is what happens when you stimulate the nintendo fanboyism in stats topic lurkers.

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ZFS | Posted 10/29/2007 9:35:47 PM | message detail

You of all people shouldn't comment on people taking crazy upsets. At least mine has a reasonable explanation.


No, you're making assumptions 30 minutes into the poll about how another Sephiroth/Mario match would go despite the knowledge that Sephiroth has a horrendous first hour. Honestly, Sephiroth will end up closer to Link than he will to Mario. We just saw Sephiroth kick Mario's ass last round. No one should expect Mario to hold close to this percentage, or for Sephiroth not to increase like mad from here.

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trannyscience | Posted 10/29/2007 9:35:54 PM | message detail
just wait until Link is crushing Cloud in the early-going and everyone's laughing at hochiminh. then epic comeback happens and everyone looks really stupid.

aw yeah
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Lopen | Posted 10/29/2007 9:37:15 PM | message detail
just wait until Link is crushing Master Chief in the early-going and everyone's laughing at Lopen. then epic comeback happens and everyone looks really stupid.

Now you know that makes more sense than an epic Cloud comeback...!!
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/29/2007 9:37:31 PM | message detail
If Link has less than 85% in the first 5 minutes against Cloud, Cloud clearly wins.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:37:42 PM | message detail
hm just accept the truth
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:38:47 PM | message detail
lol hm
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ZFS | Posted 10/29/2007 9:38:55 PM | message detail
check out that update it looks like a winner to me

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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/29/2007 9:38:55 PM | message detail
Looks like Sephiroth may be taking a lot of updates from Link during the night here.
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/29/2007 9:39:19 PM | message detail
Heh, I wouldn't be too shocked if Sephiroth outright won the 4-6 hours
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:39:25 PM | message detail
No, you're making assumptions 30 minutes into the poll about how another Sephiroth/Mario match would go despite the knowledge that Sephiroth has a horrendous first hour. Honestly, Sephiroth will end up closer to Link than he will to Mario. We just saw Sephiroth kick Mario's ass last round. No one should expect Mario to hold close to this percentage, or for Sephiroth not to increase like mad from here.

But it begs the question: how in the hell did Mario start off so well? We also saw this against Final Fantasy in the series contest last year. This guy loves doing weird **** when people count him out.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:39:59 PM | message detail
Yeah, Seph is going to be winning many updates this evening. How can you call Link invincible when he lets Cloud-lite strike fear into his heart?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:40:06 PM | message detail
just wait until sephiroths board vote dies off
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:40:15 PM | message detail
And now Link is falling too! Go Sephiroth! Even though I like Link more! Go Cloud!
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trannyscience | Posted 10/29/2007 9:40:26 PM | message detail
can someone post Seph / Mario hourlies from last round?
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creativename | Posted 10/29/2007 9:40:37 PM | message detail
But it begs the question: how in the hell did Mario start off so well? We also saw this against Final Fantasy in the series contest last year. This guy loves doing weird **** when people count him out.

Bah, we all know the Mario series gets most of its strength from Luigi being playable.
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Yesmar | Posted 10/29/2007 9:40:46 PM | message detail
If you ask me, this match shows that Mario could very well go 53-47 with Seph nowadays, even before Galaxy and Brawl. After those, Mario may be the safe number 3 in these contests.

You people have got to stop this.


"After DoC, Vincent can go toe to toe with Mario."

lol, ZFS calling the Heroic Mario deluded.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/29/2007 9:40:47 PM | message detail
Maybe voters have finally realized that Link wins more often than FF7
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JonPen1416 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:40:55 PM | message detail
I wonder if maybe Vincent is particularly vulnerable to SFF from Sephiroth. It could see it; I bet Vincent would hold up better than this against Cloud. It's Badass SFF again.
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Warsola | Posted 10/29/2007 9:40:56 PM | message detail
No, you're making assumptions 30 minutes into the poll about how another Sephiroth/Mario match would go despite the knowledge that Sephiroth has a horrendous first hour. Honestly, Sephiroth will end up closer to Link than he will to Mario. We just saw Sephiroth kick Mario's ass last round. No one should expect Mario to hold close to this percentage, or for Sephiroth not to increase like mad from here.

Last time we saw Mario in a one-on-one match, he went 57-43 with Sephiroth. Seph will obviously increase, and Mario will decrease from this point. However, Mario has proven multiple times that he is much stronger in 1v1 matches than in multi-character polls, while if anything it has been proven that Final Fantasy VII is stronger in this format than in 1v1 matches, as shown by Cloud, Sephiroth, and to a lesser extent, Vincent.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/29/2007 9:41:32 PM | message detail
Well, the best explanation I can come up with right now is that Mario simply gets LFFed by everyone. So adding Cloud and Snake (or just more characters in general) to a poll hurts Mario far more than it hurts Link.
red sox 777 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:41:46 PM | message detail
All the Link voters who have been following these contests realized he would win anyway and voted for Mario?
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/29/2007 9:42:35 PM | message detail
Saying after DoC, Vincent could go toe to toe with Mario, is a lot more reasonable than saying Mario would do that to Seph, considering we just saw him *****-slap the hell out of him last round, and the last few years, not to mention Seph obviously being weaker in the beginning of the poll.

HM was saying a new game could possibly put him on Mario's level. While it's horribly wrong, it at least had the possibility of happening.

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creativename | Posted 10/29/2007 9:42:39 PM | message detail
I wonder if maybe Vincent is particularly vulnerable to SFF from Sephiroth. It could see it; I bet Vincent would hold up better than this against Cloud. It's Badass SFF again.

Sephiroth and Vincent do seem more alike character-wise, but I don't know about this. Cloud has a much better history at SFFing people than Sephiroth does.
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ZFS | Posted 10/29/2007 9:43:45 PM | message detail
Last time we saw Mario in a one-on-one match, he went 57-43 with Sephiroth. Seph will obviously increase, and Mario will decrease from this point. However, Mario has proven multiple times that he is much stronger in 1v1 matches than in multi-character polls, while if anything it has been proven that Final Fantasy VII is stronger in this format than in 1v1 matches, as shown by Cloud, Sephiroth, and to a lesser extent, Vincent.

And Sephiroth would still handily beat Mario without any problem, pre- or post-Galaxy. What we're seeing right now is not indicative at all of how a Sephiroth/Mario match would go. The idea that a match between them has suddenly closed to 53/47 in a few short years, based off of nothing but the beginning results of this match, is ludicrous. If it ended like that, you could have something to work with, but not right now. There is absolutely no reason to doubt Sephiroth beating Mario, be it in this format or one-on-one -- we have seen him do it time and again.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/29/2007 9:44:52 PM | message detail
can someone post Seph / Mario hourlies from last round?

Time .| Seph ....| Fox .......| Mario..... | Big Boss
01:00 | 41.61% | 09.26% | 36.52% | 12.61%
02:00 | 43.90% | 08.50% | 35.13% | 12.47%
03:00 | 44.41% | 07.57% | 35.68% | 12.34%
04:00 | 44.35% | 07.60% | 35.41% | 12.64%
05:00 | 48.55% | 06.53% | 33.81% | 11.12%
06:00 | 49.17% | 05.93% | 32.94% | 11.95%
07:00 | 43.43% | 07.66% | 38.22% | 10.69%
08:00 | 43.52% | 07.21% | 37.91% | 11.36%
09:00 | 45.32% | 07.87% | 37.23% | 09.57%
10:00 | 45.40% | 07.42% | 36.20% | 10.97%
11:00 | 46.95% | 07.27% | 34.94% | 10.84%
12:00 | 47.50% | 06.84% | 34.53% | 11.13%
13:00 | 48.04% | 07.09% | 33.54% | 11.33%
14:00 | 47.81% | 07.34% | 33.85% | 11.00%
15:00 | 48.10% | 07.66% | 33.34% | 10.89%
16:00 | 44.81% | 08.62% | 35.86% | 10.71%
17:00 | 45.24% | 08.73% | 36.29% | 09.74%
18:00 | 45.86% | 08.72% | 34.89% | 10.53%
19:00 | 46.06% | 08.43% | 34.96% | 10.55%
20:00 | 46.07% | 09.42% | 34.94% | 09.57%
21:00 | 47.81% | 08.58% | 33.59% | 10.01%
22:00 | 48.86% | 08.39% | 33.31% | 09.44%
23:00 | 48.28% | 08.03% | 32.26% | 11.43%
00:00 | 47.00% | 08.24% | 33.66% | 11.10%

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ZFS | Posted 10/29/2007 9:45:24 PM | message detail
"After DoC, Vincent can go toe to toe with Mario."

lol, ZFS calling the Heroic Mario deluded.


I said this when Dirge of Cerberus was announced -- it was under the assumption that it would be a good game that would not only sell well, but help expose Vincent to a whole group of people that didn't know him. I've got no problems saying that was way off.

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wavedash101 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:45:32 PM | message detail
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/29/2007 9:46:11 PM | message detail
Yeah, Seph is going to be winning many updates this evening. How can you call Link invincible when he lets Cloud-lite strike fear into his heart?

Because Cloud-lite has something to leech horrifically out of whereas Link has someone leaching off him.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/29/2007 9:46:33 PM | message detail
Also, I'd like to point out that Link currently has a lower percentage against Sephiroth/Mario/Vincent than he had against Sephiroth/Mario/Cloud/Snake last year at this time. :)
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:47:12 PM | message detail
That's the Link I like to see.
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creativename | Posted 10/29/2007 9:47:17 PM | message detail
Now that's more like it Link!

Blah, I expect you to be doing that all match...my Oracle for this match is going to be abysmal. Might be one of the worst Oracle picks I've made.
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MultipleOrgasms | Posted 10/29/2007 9:47:29 PM | message detail
Man, it's kind of a shame that Vincent is here. If Crono had made it instead, Sephiroth might have been able to go toe to toe with Link.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:47:47 PM | message detail
nvm I retract my statement, I had thought we were talking about this contest...but thats still deluded

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:48:27 PM | message detail
Wait that was a 1 minutes update.

**** this game.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:48:27 PM | message detail
Also, I'd like to point out that Link currently has a lower percentage against Sephiroth/Mario/Vincent than he had against Sephiroth/Mario/Cloud/Snake last year at this time. :)

Crazy stuff. Who would have thought Twilight Princess would have done this much damage? First Midna proves to be fodder, Zelda gets slaughtered by Vincent, Ganondorf loses to LUIGI and Tingle gets last place not to mention Link underperforming in every match this year.


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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/29/2007 9:48:55 PM | message detail
now that's the link I like to see (Mario too!)

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creativename | Posted 10/29/2007 9:49:07 PM | message detail
Wait that was a 1 minutes update.

I didn't even realize.

Link is pathetic :(
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ZFS | Posted 10/29/2007 9:49:22 PM | message detail
Sephiroth got close that time!

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/29/2007 9:49:43 PM | message detail
Sephiroth stalling Link!
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:49:58 PM | message detail
oh hochi

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MultipleOrgasms | Posted 10/29/2007 9:50:16 PM | message detail
It is absolute complete hilarity how much you guys are playing up the Cloud > Link hype-wagon. It's going to be funny watching it get de-railed when that green bastard beats Cloud and Sephiroth combined next round.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:50:17 PM | message detail
Sephiroth stalling the "mighty" Link when the NPH is STILL going on? Oh my, this will get ugly.

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Materia Master | Posted 10/29/2007 9:50:43 PM | message detail
COME ON!!! GO SEPHY! /FF7fanboyism
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creativename | Posted 10/29/2007 9:51:16 PM | message detail
Course I was joking about Link being pathetic, and he'll probably beat Sephiroth up quite a bit in the day. But Sephiroth will tear him up overnight.
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MultipleOrgasms | Posted 10/29/2007 9:52:30 PM | message detail
Link and Mario are both going to do some damage to Sephiroth during the day, but I'm hoping Seph can win some updates and own Link's percentage during the day.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 10/29/2007 9:52:47 PM | message detail
Cloud>link can't happen this year..because of snake..he deals much more damage to Square characters then to nintendo one's..and adding a 4th independent char (Sonic/MC) would just damage Cloud even more. Link winning shouldn't be in question. Damn nintendo fanboys creaming themselves over link, and not thinking about voting snake/???. 1 on 1 though, I think Cloud would have a much better chance this year.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/29/2007 9:52:52 PM | message detail
Might be one of the worst Oracle picks I've made.

Nice to see you weren't part of this cluster of suck

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red sox 777 | Posted 10/29/2007 9:53:27 PM | message detail
Link really needs to lose.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/29/2007 9:56:48 PM | message detail
yeah, Mario's morning is better than his board vote, even against Sephiroth. this isn't some crazy board vote!
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