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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/26/2007 12:58:06 PM | message detail
I'd also like the sprite round to completely disappear or atleast have it where the sprite is just the background or something.

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Lugia2 | Posted 10/26/2007 1:03:03 PM | message detail
Because (most) of us are older, college kids and we don't find high-pitched rats funny or cool.

I sincerely hope you don't believe that. Many college kids- especially video gamers actually LIKE Pokemon. At least two of them must like Pikachu enough to vote for him.

Mind you, neither of them watched the anime. Otherwise, they would be stuffing Dante's votes. Though- given the new outbreak of cheating allegations- I wouldn't be surprised if that is happening. *coughCronomariostarcraftetccough* Besides- we thought this would happen with MC- why not Pikachu? And Pika will probably resume sucking next year- when he cannot count on FF/RPG/Capcom PS2 SFF anymore.
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octoinky | Posted 10/26/2007 1:05:57 PM | message detail
I agree. I personally am a college student with an irrational distaste for pokemon. However I know plenty of standard college gamers who enjoy pokemon.
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/26/2007 1:23:09 PM | message detail
I actually like Pikachu, this is just the third time in a row he's beaten characters I love through LFF.

I gets old.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/26/2007 1:31:27 PM | message detail
So, going by the stats over the past couple years...where would you put Zero, Luigi, Ryu Hayabusa, Riku, L-Block, Mewtwo, Fox, Pikachu, Kratos, Kirby, Master Chief and Mudkip in one-on-ones?

IMO:

Squall
Auron
Ganondorf
Tifa
Zelda
Yoshi
Dante
Bowser
(Kratos)
(Luigi)
Ryu
Sora
(Zero)
(Master Chief)
Leon
(Kirby)
Knuckles
(Mewtwo)
Yuna
Vivi
(Fox)
Sub-Zero
(L-Block)
(Riku)
Rikku
(Ryu Hayabusa)
Tidus
(Pikachu)
DK
Alucard
(Mudkip)

Kratos > Luigi > Zero > MC > Kirby > Mewtwo > Fox > L-Block > Riku > Ryu H > Pikachu > Mudkip, in other words. Kratos and Luigi would be very close though.
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__Mega64__ | Posted 10/26/2007 1:32:57 PM | message detail
Senior in college who voted for Pikachu, right ****ing here.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/26/2007 2:09:00 PM | message detail
I'm calling this as extreme Dante/Leon SFF, I can't think of any other reason as to why Pikachu is doing better than them.
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Crossfiyah | Posted 10/26/2007 2:32:38 PM | message detail
Only two words can describe this match accurately.

Poor Mewtwo.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/26/2007 2:33:56 PM | message detail
MC/Luigi/Mewtwo/Dante, who do you have advancing?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/26/2007 2:39:54 PM | message detail
MC>...gah
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ZFS | Posted 10/26/2007 2:41:09 PM | message detail
this match could never be summed up in two words as the amount of expletives would be far too few to detail just how bad of a match this is

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trannyscience | Posted 10/26/2007 2:41:22 PM | message detail
MC > Dante looks easy there; compare it to Bowser/Mewtwo and consider that Dante is probably about equal to Ryu and yeah
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/26/2007 2:41:30 PM | message detail
Dante > MC

Not very hard, really. I guess we could get MC > Dante instead, but that's about it.

I'm a believer in Bowser being LFF'd by Mewtwo, Toad, and Shadow, though.
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ZFS | Posted 10/26/2007 2:42:29 PM | message detail
Master Chief > Dante.

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satai_delenn | Posted 10/26/2007 2:44:02 PM | message detail
MC > Dante. Without Leon and with two Nintendo characters, I refuse to believe that a Pokemon would advance. (And don't get me wrong, I like Mewtwo. But gah.) And I think Nintendo SFF is stronger than anything MC could do to Dante.
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Crossfiyah | Posted 10/26/2007 2:44:35 PM | message detail
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satai_delenn | Posted 10/26/2007 2:45:13 PM | message detail
That said, I'd take Dante > MC in a 1v1. This format does wonders for Chiefy.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/26/2007 2:53:53 PM | message detail
Er, maybe I would take MC > Dante. MC did better yesterday than I remembered.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/26/2007 2:57:13 PM | message detail
I'm loving the board's reaction from this. >_>

I'll ask this here: What is it that makes you hate Pikachu?
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trannyscience | Posted 10/26/2007 2:57:40 PM | message detail
I don't hate pikachu at all. bidoof is far, far worse.
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ZFS | Posted 10/26/2007 2:57:53 PM | message detail
can you not look at it and tell

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satai_delenn | Posted 10/26/2007 2:59:31 PM | message detail
I don't hate Pikachu. I rather like him. But Bidoof and Mudkip have pissed me off, and now Pikachu is beating Dante.

...I guess maybe I hate Pikachu now. >_>
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/26/2007 3:00:42 PM | message detail
Yeah. I hate Bidoof and don't really like Mudkip that much, but I like Pika. It's nice to see a non-joke Pokemon do well.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/26/2007 3:01:15 PM | message detail
From satai_delenn Posted 10/26/2007 5:59:31 PM #173
I don't hate Pikachu. I rather like him. But Bidoof and Mudkip have pissed me off, and now Pikachu is beating Dante.

...I guess maybe I hate Pikachu now. >_>


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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/26/2007 3:02:36 PM | message detail
And uh, any amount of SFF between MC and Dante at all will allow Pikachu to advance by hochi's logic. The voters have been conditioned to vote for Pikachu whenever they are forced to choose between two characters they like.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/26/2007 3:09:29 PM | message detail
can't wait to see the day vote battle between Luigi, Pikachu and Master Chief.

Dante is going to *die*.
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Keno316 | Posted 10/26/2007 3:10:32 PM | message detail
Pikachu just looks and acts annoying. The noise, the overuse. OK, I admit him being overwhored all over the place didn't help.

...I like Raichu, though.


I wish it was a pic of Raichu instead.


...Hey, that'd make an interesting theme for pics in a round. Final Evolutions/forms. One Winged Angel Sephiroth...whatever Mario's strongest form is. Fierce Diety Link, etc. etc.

...I guess characters who don't have a final/ultimate form would be screwed...but I'm sure something can be pulled out of everyone's asses for them...
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/26/2007 3:11:34 PM | message detail
aww yeah mascot yuna > hourglass link
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satai_delenn | Posted 10/26/2007 3:11:48 PM | message detail
Devil Trigger Dante?

A lot of these would get unrecognizable really fast.
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Seginustemple | Posted 10/26/2007 3:17:21 PM | message detail
Hyper mode Samus....Mario with a star?
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/26/2007 3:29:01 PM | message detail
I'm not sure if I buy all this Dante-talk for next round. I have a hard time thinking he flat-out dominates Yuna or that Pikachu hurts Luigi more than Ganon did. Granted, anything's possible, but I'm not sold on Dante yet. I know he's smoking Leon who I was behind on upsetting Dante, but we've seen an anomaly today too and I don't know what to take from the match other than Dante > Leon (who I had big expectations behind pre-contest). If MC happens to take any Dante support from him (not my favorite theory, but it's being thrown around), then I think this is Luigi's match to lose next round.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/26/2007 3:32:57 PM | message detail
well, Leon beat Pikachu easily last round. unless you think Square holds Pikachu back for some reason, there's just no reason to doubt Dante here.

that said, I've ALWAYS been skeptical of Dante. name me the best character he's ever beaten... Hayabusa, maybe? not all of that is his fault, but he had two good chances -- Ryu and Yoshi -- and lost both. I also think his favourite status is overblown.

but just compare Luigi to Bowser, see what Mewtwo did to him, figure Pikachu will do the same if not more, and then consider that Dante at worst is equal to Luigi... tough to back Luigi on a pure previous-match basis.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/26/2007 3:33:43 PM | message detail
The problem with that is that I see Pikachu sapping Luigi much more likely than Dante sapping MC, even if neither seem very possible. At the very least the Nintendo overlap cause a little LFF, and considering Luigi and Dante are practically equal...
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Keno316 | Posted 10/26/2007 3:34:58 PM | message detail
I'm not sure if I buy all this Dante-talk for next round. I have a hard time thinking he flat-out dominates Yuna or that Pikachu hurts Luigi more than Ganon did. Granted, anything's possible, but I'm not sold on Dante yet. I know he's smoking Leon who I was behind on upsetting Dante, but we've seen an anomaly today too and I don't know what to take from the match other than Dante > Leon (who I had big expectations behind pre-contest). If MC happens to take any Dante support from him (not my favorite theory, but it's being thrown around), then I think this is Luigi's match to lose next round.


Any Pikachu/Luigi overlap there could be is likely to be > than any possible Chief/Dante overlap.

And considering how easily Leon beat Pikachu last round and how easily Dante is beating that Leon right now...Dante's chances next round look pretty good.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/26/2007 6:13:06 PM | message detail
I have a hard time thinking he flat-out dominates Yuna

Uh, why? Yuna got 60-40'd by Ganondorf, and I'd think that Dante would hold up a little better than that.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/26/2007 6:29:50 PM | message detail
Match LV: Kratos vs L-Block vs Solid Snake vs Riku

Past Matches

Round 2

Kratos - 32.48%
L-Block - 28.33%
Kirby - 24.81%
Donkey Kong - 14.39%

Solid Snake - 47.72%
Riku - 19.43%
Ryu Hayabusa - 18.91%
Nightmare - 13.94%

Analysis

Last round L-Block started off with the lead before dying over the day and giving it to Kratos. Kirby however was stuck with DK and wasn’t able to comeback against the block. Snake destroyed his competition and despite losing to Ryu even with Roxas’ votes added in Riku was still able to sneak in the win and moves to the next round ready to have an epic match for second.

Solid Snake will take first despite this being the sprite round. Like what happened to Big Boss a few matches ago Solid Snake won’t perform to what he is expected to and even though his competition is stiff I don’t see that he is in any danger of losing. Also looking at his competition Snake shouldn’t have much problems at breaking 40% unless L-Block decides it wants over 25% of the vote again.

Giving a favorite going into this match is really hard though for my bracket I have Kratos in second and I still think he has the greatest chance at coming in second. Despite him having two matches we still don’t know by how much Kratos has gained from GoW2. He did beat L-Block who in my opinion is probably Kratos’ biggest threat, but with Solid Snake in the poll Kratos could be weakened since both games attract similar audiences. However with Snake getting an in-game picture of his first game I wouldn’t be surprised if Snake failed to affect Kratos and who is to say that he would affect him in the first place.

L-Block is the ultimate joke character in this contest and like all joke characters they don’t normally perform to what the stats expect. Also like most joke characters L-Block has a following that will vote for it over anything, not saying everyone who votes for it during the first and second round will always vote for him, but as four-packs get stronger and stronger L-Block will lose less and less people.

Riku while I don’t expect him to do much he does have a chance at taking second. Before the contest besides Kirby Riku was the next strongest character after Snake. However this four-pack and how the characters got here is much different than what we thought pre-contest. Kratos looked impressive though it could all be an illusion, L-Block is something we’ve never expect to happen while Riku looks weaker just barely beating Ryu who unless you believe Dante SFF him was much weaker in Yoshi’s four-pack.

I have Solid Snake > Kratos though I can see anyone taking second in this match. L-Block will start with his usual great start and if the picture is hurting Snake enough he could lead over him for a few updates. There is only a week and a half left before the contest ends though I have to agree that this has been one of the best and most unpredictable contests ever.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Solid Snake > Kratos

charmander6000’s Prediction: Solid Snake - 41.63%, Kratos - 21.41%, L-Block - 19.82%, Riku - 17.14%

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trannyscience | Posted 10/26/2007 6:32:52 PM | message detail
L-Block is the ultimate joke character in this contest and like all joke characters they don’t normally perform to what the stats expect. Also like most joke characters L-Block has a following that will vote for it over anything, not saying everyone who votes for it during the first and second round will always vote for him, but as four-packs get stronger and stronger L-Block will lose less and less people.

can't believe you (correctly) said this and then predicted the Block below 20%.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/26/2007 6:36:59 PM | message detail
What I believe and my prediction are sometimes two different things.
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creativename | Posted 10/26/2007 7:03:48 PM | message detail
creme brule
cheeseburger and fries
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QXGJPFF

What is this?

Lugia
Pika will probably resume sucking next year- when he cannot count on FF/RPG/Capcom PS2 SFF anymore.

Heh :)


transcience
can't wait to see the day vote battle between Luigi, Pikachu and Master Chief.

Dante is going to *die*.


I think Dante is actually one of the most stable character there is, but I guess you're right with MC and Pika being two of the most ASV oriented characters, and Luigi also tilting slightly more towards the day vote (though he'll probably be at his highest during the Power Hour).


I have no idea what to make of Dante/Luigi/Pikachu next round.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/26/2007 7:04:46 PM | message detail
It's satai making fun of all of the different factors that the stats topic makes up.
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H__RR____H | Posted 10/26/2007 7:04:56 PM | message detail
I hope the picture goes up in the next twenty minutes. I've got to perform in a Rocky Horror floor show tonight and want to know what it looks like in advance!


I'm going to try not to debate MC's match next round anymore just because so many arguments can be right and it's hard to disagree with a lot of it and all that fun stuff...I'll just say Luigi's my pick and Pikachu's my hope as far as second place goes.
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creativename | Posted 10/26/2007 7:06:05 PM | message detail
Er whoops, posted my room service order list there, as I was typing in notepad. And robotically clicked "Post" after preview...ignore that...


.I expect L-Block to be stronger than ever, because he still hasn't gotten a very good picture.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/26/2007 7:06:25 PM | message detail
so you're thinking (hoping) MC doesn't place? that would be pretty incredible.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/26/2007 7:07:58 PM | message detail
I second this

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creativename | Posted 10/26/2007 7:09:38 PM | message detail
There's a real, though smallish, chance of MC not taking first. I don't know about not placing though. Doesn't really seem possible. Unless Dante really does LFF him for some reason.

What do the people who came up with Dante/Leon LFF think of this MC/Dante LFF idea?
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H__RR____H | Posted 10/26/2007 7:19:39 PM | message detail
so you're thinking (hoping) MC doesn't place? that would be pretty incredible.

Whoa, no. I have MC > Ganon in my bracket and like MC more than any of the other people he's faced so far this bracket. I'm just saying that I think Luigi will take second place but hope that Pikachu will take second for the sake of my bracket. Dante will just kinda annoy me if he does.
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Keno316 | Posted 10/26/2007 7:25:16 PM | message detail
I still can't believe Pikachu is beating Leon by 10%...
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 10/26/2007 7:25:39 PM | message detail
What do the people who came up with Dante/Leon LFF think of this MC/Dante LFF idea?

I don't buy it. The only common factor they have is that they are both one man armies (like the daily top 10 list says!)
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/26/2007 7:31:08 PM | message detail
I believe there could be *some* overlap between Dante and Master Chief (as in, more than either of those two with Luigi and Pikachu, but it shouldn't be nearly on the level as the Ninty fellas, and shouldn't hold either of them back from placing.
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