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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 534

HaRRicH | Posted 10/26/2007 8:35:46 AM | message detail
So...back to next round's discussion -- we've talked about how Dante has to be the favorite over Luigi and Pikachu to get second to MC now. However, I do want to mention that, with Ganondorf in the poll, Luigi still beat Yuna by 5%. How much better does Dante do than Yuna, and how much differently will Pikachu with a probably-decent picture affect Luigi than Ganon with a really bad picture?

Feels like Luigi ought to be the favorite instead of Dante, though anything can happen. Next round is nuts.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 8:38:53 AM | message detail
...I'm literally still so angry that I can't even think about anything other than how terrible this result is.

what is wrong with me
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 8:39:06 AM | message detail
seriously **** you pikachu
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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/26/2007 8:39:47 AM | message detail
these sprites are all so fantastically terrible

I thought Ammy was Pikachu for the longest time
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 8:40:14 AM | message detail
i just realized almost 1/3rd of the people voted for him...

this is so wrong, seriously 1/3.

1/3.

oh my god
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transience | Posted 10/26/2007 8:40:20 AM | message detail
nah. think about Bowser-Mewtwo -- even with Bowser being stronger, he couldn't hurt Mewtwo at all and got destroyed by Ryu. this next match is all-around weird, and impossible to predict. MC gets first, I'm confident in that... but percentages? hell, who knows.
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transience | Posted 10/26/2007 8:40:49 AM | message detail
hey ec how's that "no overlap between dante and leon" now
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 8:41:40 AM | message detail
ONE-THIRD THAT IS SO SICK
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/26/2007 8:42:21 AM | message detail
no overlap therefore pikachu near-elite stronger than dante and about equal to yoshi and can get 43% on solid snake confirmed
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 8:42:46 AM | message detail
I'm just going to tell myself that there's massive constant vote-stuffing going on and Bacon doesn't care enough to do anything about it.

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transience | Posted 10/26/2007 8:44:20 AM | message detail
just go read the board, especially the Vlado and ertyu topics, and you'll feel better.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 8:44:39 AM | message detail
good thinking
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kfleong2000 | Posted 10/26/2007 8:45:53 AM | message detail
Stop whinging in a topic for intelligent discussion, PortugalMann. Your contributions are worthless.

Make another topic to do your incessant complaning in. Seriously.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/26/2007 8:47:13 AM | message detail
Also, I noticed something a bit crazy: we already know Crono's the first Noble Niner to not advance to the next round due to somebody outside of the Noble Nine. However, nearly every match this round will feature somebody advancing who Crono has beaten before:

Mega Man
Auron* (*he didn't advance, but he's stronger than Ryu dammit)
Mario
Vincent* (*the man who eliminated Crono this year)
Master Chief
Dante
Solid Snake
N/A* (*Sonic upset Crono last year, Vincent kept Squall from facing Crono in 2k5, Auron kept Sub-Zero from facing him in 2k6, and Sora never had a chance to face him)


Yeah, Crono's importance (and bracket placement) is slowly dwindling from 2k2.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 8:48:12 AM | message detail
not even board antics can make this better.

time to smoke a lot of weed and try to forget this ever happened.

i swear to god if any of you ever bring this up to me you will die. never speak of this event again.

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Japago | Posted 10/26/2007 8:48:23 AM | message detail
So...back to next round's discussion -- we've talked about how Dante has to be the favorite over Luigi and Pikachu to get second to MC now. However, I do want to mention that, with Ganondorf in the poll, Luigi still beat Yuna by 5%. How much better does Dante do than Yuna, and how much differently will Pikachu with a probably-decent picture affect Luigi than Ganon with a really bad picture?

Feels like Luigi ought to be the favorite instead of Dante, though anything can happen. Next round is nuts.


Why? Dante went pretty much even with Yoshi last year, who I think would beat Luigi. I give Dante at least a small chance against Luigi 1 on 1, much less when he is getting held back...

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 8:48:48 AM | message detail
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kfleong2000 | Posted 10/26/2007 8:50:49 AM | message detail
I'll take you up on your suggestion of fellatio kind sir.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 8:51:32 AM | message detail
making this way too easy
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/26/2007 8:54:15 AM | message detail
Why? Dante went pretty much even with Yoshi last year, who I think would beat Luigi. I give Dante at least a small chance against Luigi 1 on 1, much less when he is getting held back...

He's also losing to Pikachu right now, who I think we can still assume is weaker than Luigi both traditionally and in this format. If he can have such a significant overlap with Leon, I don't see why he can't have one with Master Chief. Honestly, I'm not expecting Dante to do very well next round.
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consolefreak | Posted 10/26/2007 8:56:15 AM | message detail
If he can have such a significant overlap with Leon, I don't see why he can't have one with Master Chief. Honestly, I'm not expecting Dante to do very well next round.

An overlap of comparable significance? How?
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/26/2007 8:57:38 AM | message detail
Not one that's this extreme, but one that can still potentially push Luigi through. I don't think Pikachu will drain him to the extent that Mewtwo drained Bowser, either.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/26/2007 8:58:18 AM | message detail
How the hell does Dante line up with Chief...they have almost no connections unlike Leon and Dante who have a ton...now we are just reaching people

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consolefreak | Posted 10/26/2007 8:59:30 AM | message detail
Not one that's this extreme, but one that can still potentially push Luigi through. I don't think Pikachu will drain him to the extent that Mewtwo drained Bowser, either.

Can't say I agree on the MC-Dante overlap, but Luigi definitely has a shot.

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252/336. Today : Leon > Dante. Tomorrow : Snake > Kirby
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/26/2007 9:00:24 AM | message detail
So, fun-time: I think the majority of us assumed MC would do better this year because of both Halo 3 and the format...but let's say the contest next year is your typical one-on-one match-ups again. Of the people MC is certain to face this year, who would you take him over one-on-one next year?

PaRappa?
Vercetti?
Liquid?
Alucard?
Yuna?
Ganon?
Luigi?
Dante?
Pikachu?
Solid?
Sonic?
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 9:00:52 AM | message detail
Ok, I know I was massively against Dante/Leon LFF, but seriously... MC? What? They've never shared a system, one is a FPS, and one is an action game. I mean... they REALLY aren't anything alike. I don't think there needs to be overlap for Luigi to win still, he's close enough to Dante that anything can happen.

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 9:01:54 AM | message detail
PaRappa? yes
Vercetti? yes
Liquid? yes
Alucard? yes
Yuna? augh
Ganon? no
Luigi? no
Dante? no
Pikachu? yes
Solid? no
Sonic? no

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consolefreak | Posted 10/26/2007 9:02:46 AM | message detail
I'd take him to beat

PaRappa
Vercetti
Liquid
Alucard
Pikachu

I'd question Yuna, but would probably side with MC.

He loses to

Ganon
Luigi
Dante
Solid
Sonic
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/26/2007 9:07:40 AM | message detail
Just throwing out what I feel could happen. I think it's a bit silly that you guys are so trigger-happy to shoot it down after seeing this on the homepage.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 9:08:35 AM | message detail
I feel like that shouldn't be directed at me... darn you ignore feature.

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wavedash101 | Posted 10/26/2007 9:10:26 AM | message detail
This had a bunch of reasons to happen...Dante/MC have pretty much NOTHING connecting them in any meaningful way...now you are reaching into the general SFF everyone shares

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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/26/2007 9:12:01 AM | message detail
I'm not reaching into anything. I haven't even given any reasons. This is nothing more than a gut feeling.
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consolefreak | Posted 10/26/2007 9:12:36 AM | message detail
I think it's a bit silly that you guys are so trigger-happy to shoot it down after seeing this on the homepage.

We're not shooting down the possibility of Luigi winning. Just the Dante-MC overlap.
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252/336. Today : Leon > Dante. Tomorrow : Snake > Kirby
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/26/2007 9:15:39 AM | message detail
I could see MC/Dante fans overlapping, despite no technical similarities. That said, I wasn't counting on Dante/Leon SFF and I'm even more skeptical of MC/Dante SFF. It all depends on how you want to look at the match to decide who your favorite is to advance with MC:

Luigi: he beat Ganon by 1% and Yuna by 5%...what's Pikachu going to do to him, and how much stronger can Dante be than Yuna?
Pikachu: Mudkip only lost to Luigi by 3%, and we're seeing Pikachu smash Dante today too (if right now isn't big enough of a smash for you, wait until the ASV).
Dante: Dante is stronger than Yuna, and with Luigi and Pikachu fighting it out for votes on the side Dante may slip by alongside the other casual favorite.

It's gonna be craaaaaaazy.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/26/2007 9:21:32 AM | message detail
The only way I see MC/Dante overlapping is if there is an huge amount of DMC fans who also like Ninja Gaiden do to similar gameplay and this had an Xbox...thats alot of multiconsole ownership

Or if both fanbases decide to go MC cause at least it not Nintendo winning or something...

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voltch | Posted 10/26/2007 9:27:12 AM | message detail
i can't really see them overlapping on gamefaqs.
in general maybe dante/MC share a same fanbase cos they look cool to some people?
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 9:28:05 AM | message detail
pikachu and luigi will be splitting the they look stupid fanbase
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Shinra Reborn | Posted 10/26/2007 9:29:38 AM | message detail
I love this Contest. So goddamned unpredictable. >_>
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kfleong2000 | Posted 10/26/2007 9:29:46 AM | message detail
'Mann' up lol

You whinge a lot don't you?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/26/2007 9:53:11 AM | message detail
What the hell is whinge?
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 9:54:40 AM | message detail
I love personal vendettas spurred on by pokemonrage.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/26/2007 9:55:09 AM | message detail
Whinge sounds like a goddamn Pokemon.
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kfleong2000 | Posted 10/26/2007 9:59:15 AM | message detail
What the hell is whinge?

This is an example:

Whinge sounds like a goddamn Pokemon.

lol c wut i did thar?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/26/2007 10:01:25 AM | message detail
Are you trying to be clever or something?

Because you're not doing a very good job of it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/26/2007 10:03:04 AM | message detail
Luigi and Dante will be splitting the "good characters" fanbase. Pikachu to the semifinals!
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/26/2007 10:03:10 AM | message detail
Dante is doing too poorly to be considered next round. If Leon can split his fanbase, Master Chief can too. Yesterday I would have told you Luigi > MC. Today, with Pikachu in the mix, I say MC > Luigi
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kfleong2000 | Posted 10/26/2007 10:04:57 AM | message detail
Are you trying to be clever or something?

Because you're not doing a very good job of it.


No crap. I'm humouring the obvious angst-ridden PTM in this topic, but it seems you may be drawn into my unintelligent comical attempts at having a good time on this board. Lighten up.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 10:05:32 AM | message detail
uh...
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/26/2007 10:06:22 AM | message detail
EC why do you attract these kinds of people.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/26/2007 10:07:10 AM | message detail
wang envy
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