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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 533

Ngamer64 | Posted 10/25/2007 9:36:16 PM | message detail
Thanks! Yeah, it's all php pulling data from my my_sql database on the back end. You can also look at the exact stats for each match

http://www.thengamer.com/guru/stats.php

And click into who picked whom to see exactly who picked what character to advance on that day.

You'll have to submit your bracket next year, to get the full benefit!

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Big Bob | Posted 10/25/2007 9:37:15 PM | message detail
Ammy's getting cute animal SFF.

And I actually voted for her instead of that mouse.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/25/2007 9:37:27 PM | message detail
I do like Pikachu...but he's still the worst character in this match. :(

Pikachu won't collapse. His earlier performances confirm this. Considering his opposition, he's prone to make this completely laughable by the time this is all over.

Hey, we've seen trends this round change from previous rounds before, as lately as yesterday.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/25/2007 9:38:02 PM | message detail
Capcom SFF!

This is the only theory I will accept for this match. Heck, I love Dante, Ammy and Leon but I could only vote for one. Therefore, it must exist.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/25/2007 9:38:10 PM | message detail
Anyone think Ryu has a chance of beating Megaman or Samus? They'll get LFF on each other, and Cloud will be taking up a large amount of the percentage.....
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EvilPrinny | Posted 10/25/2007 9:38:26 PM | message detail
Dante, Leon, and Ammy won't get the day vote... the rat will
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/25/2007 9:38:59 PM | message detail
There were reasons, explanations for that kind of change, and it was *very* slight... this is Pikachu. It's a Pokemon. They always own the day (when they're not propped up on massive stuffing).

...this entire topic being nothing but HM aughs isn't as bad as you'd think
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creativename | Posted 10/25/2007 9:41:08 PM | message detail
Full of crap match is full of crap.

http://www.thengamer.com/guru/stats.php

And click into who picked whom to see exactly who picked what character to advance on that day.


Wow, terrific stuff.

You'll have to submit your bracket next year, to get the full benefit!

What exactly is it about?

All I remember is the ridiculous signup lists that used to spam this topic :)
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eaglesarebeasts | Posted 10/25/2007 9:41:12 PM | message detail
There we go Dante
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BDawg | Posted 10/25/2007 9:41:35 PM | message detail
Really though if the first hour ends up being overwhelmingly Pikachu's best, then some people need to be taken behind the wood shed.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/25/2007 9:42:21 PM | message detail
...this entire topic being nothing but HM aughs isn't as bad as you'd think

kh is hm's alt confirmed
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creativename | Posted 10/25/2007 9:42:40 PM | message detail
I can see Dante making lots of cuts overnight, but it's going to be very tough for him to actually win this.

The result of this match is so bad that even the Devil may cry :(
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ZFS | Posted 10/25/2007 9:43:32 PM | message detail
well, I think it's time we gave Pikachu some credit - he's somehow legit after being so weak for so long. he may be benefitting from the format or the "LFF", but he's nearly tripling Amaterasu.

It's hard to deny that Pikachu has done as well as he has thanks to "LFF." The match with Tidus might have perhaps being indicative of his strength, assuming there wasn't much in the way of LFF there, but he's benefited tremendously from it in these big matches. He loses here, last round and maybe the first with no LFF to hold his opponents down. He certainly isn't as weak as he used to be, but I'm hesitant to begin to think he's even close to competing with the competition he's been up against the past couple of rounds.

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creativename | Posted 10/25/2007 9:43:34 PM | message detail
...this entire topic being nothing but HM aughs isn't as bad as you'd think

"augh"s restore my faith in humanity.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/25/2007 9:44:24 PM | message detail
If Pikachu had lost to Isaac like he was supposed to, we would all be happy.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/25/2007 9:44:40 PM | message detail
I'm really interested to see how Pikachu holds up against Luigi.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/25/2007 9:44:45 PM | message detail
pikachu is noble nine material imo
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BDawg | Posted 10/25/2007 9:45:10 PM | message detail
Yeah, if any Nintendo midcarded should be profitting from this it should be Fox McCloud!!!! Although that ridiculous first round SFF result was almost worth the two horrid beatings.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/25/2007 9:46:11 PM | message detail
My only gripe with this match is that is ruins Luigi from advancing further next round.
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Who Cares? | Posted 10/25/2007 9:47:03 PM | message detail
*Sees poll for the first time*

Okay, I really wish I got the memo that Pikachu wasn't hated anymore! Seriously!
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creativename | Posted 10/25/2007 9:47:10 PM | message detail
We really don't know what to make of Pikachu.

He's being boosted by the format, he's stronger than before, he was helped by LFF in previous rounds, that freakin' Dante/Leon LFF notion seems to have materialized, his pic advantage in this match is epic (like I said, *I* felt like voting for him), he looks great and his opponents look like unappealing crap. Plus, he may actually have been hurt by RPG LFF (instead of helped? both at the same time??) as Haste2 said.
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ZFS | Posted 10/25/2007 9:47:19 PM | message detail
pikachu is definitely noble nine material

in a worst character ever contest

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/25/2007 9:47:33 PM | message detail
...this has to be the wierdest **** ever. Pikachu beating Dante AND Leon? Wow.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/25/2007 9:47:44 PM | message detail
If Pikachu had lost to Isaac like he was supposed to, we would all be happy.

Proving once again, that even when hochi's wrong... he's so right.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/25/2007 9:48:47 PM | message detail
My only gripe with this match is that is ruins Luigi from advancing further next round.

Amen. Our ultimate upset is so trashed, and it was looking great. I don't think anyone can say Luigi had no shot, especially when a weaker Nintendo character is making Dante and Leon look like crap. All we can hope for now is SFF domination by Luigi coupled with the performance of Dante's contest career.
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Starion | Posted 10/25/2007 9:49:07 PM | message detail
So LFF is real? In that case, it means Master Chief has improved but isn't close to Noble Nine status just yet.
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Who Cares? | Posted 10/25/2007 9:50:02 PM | message detail
On the bright side, Pikachu advancing and screwing with Luigi next round could help me come away with points with my horrible Ganondorf>Dante pick next round! We'll see how the rest of this match goes!
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Mister Mario | Posted 10/25/2007 9:50:46 PM | message detail
Pikachu is awesome saucem
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Fiop | Posted 10/25/2007 9:50:48 PM | message detail
In all seriousness, the bulk of the Pokemon fanbase has gone from young kids to preteens/early teens. It's only natural that Pikachu, who's pretty much the face of Pokemon would rise legitimately as the possible voters increase. He only gets extra exposure from the Anime on Cartoon Network and the SSB series.
HaRRicH | Posted 10/25/2007 9:54:57 PM | message detail
It's funny how I'm hearing Pikachu's pic advantage is so obvious when for like the minute the picture was up before the match started it was practically unanimous that everyone's picture blew badly.
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creativename | Posted 10/25/2007 9:55:24 PM | message detail
I think the DS games might have been big for the Pokemon franchise.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/25/2007 9:55:30 PM | message detail
Pikachu is a machine.
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Keno316 | Posted 10/25/2007 9:56:13 PM | message detail
Which each passing night, the results of these contest are getting worst and worst...
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Ngamer64 | Posted 10/25/2007 9:56:17 PM | message detail
Well creative, the original Guru idea (everyone says something nice about the winner in their sigs after the Contest) is still in place, but the cool new addition is that these days the Champ gets to pick one character/game (whatever the next Contest is) that the other Gurus have to nominate. So like Moltar will (hopefully!) be earning 182 nominations for Donkey Kong Country 2 next Spring right off the bat. Heck of a way to start a rally!

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creativename | Posted 10/25/2007 9:56:19 PM | message detail
It's funny how I'm hearing Pikachu's pic advantage is so obvious when for like the minute the picture was up before the match started it was practically unanimous that everyone's picture blew badly.

I saw this Pikachu pic like last week (I think HM brought it up), and noted then how awesome it was. It probably hits the nostalgia vote very hard.
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paraboxx | Posted 10/25/2007 9:57:16 PM | message detail
Next round's going to be MC > Pikachu, isn't it?

That's going to be hilarious.

(Especially when it ends up being Pikachu > MC !)
Big Bob | Posted 10/25/2007 9:59:13 PM | message detail
I'm gonna go on a limb and saying Pikachu will beat Luigi next round.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/25/2007 9:59:38 PM | message detail
Pikachu will not beat Luigi.
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creativename | Posted 10/25/2007 9:59:50 PM | message detail
Also I didn't even notice until now, but you can clearly see "okem" in Pokemon font in the background. And we already knew the Pokemon franchise itself had some strength at this site. Though I doubt that's a big deal.

Pikachu just doesn't look nearly as hateable as usual.

Well creative, the original Guru idea (everyone says something nice about the winner in their sigs after the Contest) is still in place, but the cool new addition is that these days the Champ gets to pick one character/game (whatever the next Contest is) that the other Gurus have to nominate.

So it's a sig contest+nomination power?

Interesting, though the rewards are a bit top-heavy.

Who won the nomination last time? And is there some sort of lifetime standings?
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/25/2007 10:00:07 PM | message detail
Uhh... Luigi just beat Ganondorf an hour ago.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/25/2007 10:01:34 PM | message detail
Last time, the winner was Rufus Shinra and the nominated character was Wario. Before that, the guru character was Toadette.
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creativename | Posted 10/25/2007 10:02:29 PM | message detail
Dante might finish 5 points under Pikachu here, but I think he'll finish ahead of Pikachu next round anyway, due to lack of Dante/Leon LFF, lack of Pikachu's massive pic advantage, and Luigi/Pikachu LFF.

If it wasn't for Pikachu's path being so fixed, Dante's path would be looking like a joke. (actually we already thought his path was a joke, but somehow he's finding a way to lose...)
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/25/2007 10:02:52 PM | message detail
Leon is starting to stall here. Bracket voting in effect for Dante maybe?
Fiop | Posted 10/25/2007 10:03:29 PM | message detail
Luigi is on old school platform games, with no major portable presence, whereas Pikachu is a newer RPG character whose games are mainly portable and gets lots of exposure on the Pokemon anime.

Just because they're both Nintendo doesn't mean there's got to be a ton of overlap. The only thing they have in common is both being on Nintendo, and the SSB series.
creativename | Posted 10/25/2007 10:04:11 PM | message detail
Last time, the winner was Rufus Shinra and the nominated character was Wario. Before that, the guru character was Toadette.

What?? Why the hell wasn't the nominated character Rufus Shinra in that case!? He'd be stronger than Wario, and a lot more interesting.

Someone slap this Rufus Shinra dude upside the head!
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Ngamer64 | Posted 10/25/2007 10:05:14 PM | message detail
But yeah, now that the shock has worn off, this result is starting to earn a smile from me. Not only do I get a full 8 points from what was in reality a very bad Leon > Dante call, I also stand to earn a whole 16 from what would have been an awful Ganon > Dante call next round, if not for Nintendo LFF stepping in to potentially ruin Luigi and save me.

Amazing stuff Pika!

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creativename | Posted 10/25/2007 10:05:43 PM | message detail
The only thing they have in common is both being on Nintendo, and the SSB series.

The Brawl overlap alone could mean quite a bit.

But yeah, nothing is certain. It's pretty likely that they'll hurt each other though.

There's also a chance it will be one-sided in Luigi's favor, which is of course what I'd be hoping for :)
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/25/2007 10:05:47 PM | message detail
Just because they're both Nintendo doesn't mean there's got to be a ton of overlap.

No. Only the most radical exceptions (joke/stuffed/cult characters) stray from the one biggest tenet of SFF - Nintendo SFF rules them all. There will be SFF between Luigi and Pikachu next round, and neither of them have a shot at placing because of it.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/25/2007 10:05:59 PM | message detail
Luigi may have beat Ganon by a percent an hour ago, but he also only beat Mudkip by 3% last round. I'm taking Luigi > Pikachu, but this is dangerous ground for him.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/25/2007 10:06:26 PM | message detail
What if Master Chief kills Dante?
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