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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/25/2007 1:35:13 PM | message detail
darn you central time zone
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trannyscience | Posted 10/25/2007 1:35:23 PM | message detail
yeah, let's use stats when Ganondorf and Luigi are clearly hurting each other here.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/25/2007 1:36:44 PM | message detail
yeah, let's use stats when Ganondorf and Luigi are clearly hurting each other here.

Well to be fair he only put him at Cloud levels. If he wanted to make it realistic he would have put him at Solano levels.

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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 1:37:31 PM | message detail
it's no worse than, say, Dante/Hayabusa

It's entirely worse than that. If there are two games that have almost the exact same appeal gameplay wise, it's DMC and Ninja Gaiden. The only two other games that try to touch the action genre like they do is GoW and maybe Heavenly Sword. The action heavy sword beatdown combos of doom genre is pretty sparse, really.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:37:51 PM | message detail
MC is no Solano

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/25/2007 1:38:40 PM | message detail
didn't even realize that when i read it, could be because im high, could be because i dont want to keep saying

NO THEY AREN'T

YES THEY ARE

NO THEY AREN'T

over and over
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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 1:39:13 PM | message detail
What, I knocked Luigi and Ganondorf down a good 2% each for SFF. I really don't think it's that significant here.

AND OMG YES 43% update.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/25/2007 1:40:24 PM | message detail
Texas sure loves them some marines, and pigs.

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TexasAggie | Posted 10/25/2007 1:59:52 PM | message detail
come on Ganon
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2007 2:00:54 PM | message detail
Luigi asked if he could borrow some of MC's game fuel just then.
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ZFS | Posted 10/25/2007 2:30:08 PM | message detail
this is clearly the fault of pig ganon

pic factor lives

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__Mega64__ | Posted 10/25/2007 2:42:23 PM | message detail
Who cares how similar the games are when we're voting on characters?

Let's compare how the characters both look so haggard and miserable instead.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/25/2007 2:54:46 PM | message detail
Aww man, lol zero point match.
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creativename | Posted 10/25/2007 3:27:26 PM | message detail
n00b
I'll believe this Dante/Leon LFF crap when I see it

Heh, I feel the exact same way. I just don't see why people expect this, it makes no sense.


YoAriel
Resident Evil 4 and Devil May Cry are about as close to the same genre as you can get. The first RE4 build went on to become Devil May Cry, actually.

Now that's fascinating.

Still don't buy the LFF though.


PortgualTheMann
They play nothing like each other, other than having guns. I guess Snake gets LFF'd by them too if they end up in a match together.

I could actually see gun SFF before DMC/RE SFF :)


Lopen
I really don't consider DMC to have survival horror elements. Dante's just too much of a badass to have any feel of horror. What, because it has demons as enemies?

I agree, I haven't seen much of the games but they don't seem to have much of a horror feel at all.

Master Chief at Cloud level

...qué


It's entirely worse than that. If there are two games that have almost the exact same appeal gameplay wise, it's DMC and Ninja Gaiden.

This I agree with.

However with Hayabusa's 1st round victory clearly coming almost entirely due to LFF, the Dante SFFed Ryu theory is not necessary anymore.


HM
pig factor lives

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Janus5000 | Posted 10/25/2007 3:37:53 PM | message detail
Good to see Ganon getting baconated.
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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 3:40:54 PM | message detail
However with Hayabusa's 1st round victory clearly coming almost entirely due to LFF, the Dante SFFed Ryu theory is not necessary anymore.

True, I'm just saying that it was much more reasonable. I'd still take Hayabusa over Riku 1v1, just for the record.

MC looking especially good in the last hour. It's looking like he should clear 35% easily enough. C'mon, Chief, don't slow down now... 36%!
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Link The Hylian | Posted 10/25/2007 3:42:13 PM | message detail
I'm going to be really disappointed in Snake/Sonic if they somehow let Chief make the finals. : /

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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 3:45:18 PM | message detail
44.5% hell yeah! No slowin down at all!
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creativename | Posted 10/25/2007 3:46:42 PM | message detail
Chief has no shot to make it past Snake. He only has a shot against Sonic if Sonic gets LFFed by Luigi (who is less than 50% to even make it there), or Snake SFFs his entire Brawl boost away (also unlikely).
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/25/2007 3:47:44 PM | message detail
...I blame the pic WITH A GOOD SPRITE GANONDORF WOULD BE AT LIKE 25% BELIEVE

darn you sailor biased (towards luigi)
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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 3:50:52 PM | message detail
At the moment this match is only disappointing me as it relates to MC vs Cloud assuming MC gets to 35-36%. This is easily tougher than any four pack a niner has faced aside from Link's. MC's still very much in the running against Snake and Sonic based on their performances.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/25/2007 4:03:18 PM | message detail
Uh, there's big LFF between Link and Mario, and I'd say that their games are a lot less similar than DMC and RE4. Not to mention the extreme similarity of the character of Leon/Dante.
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Diorelli | Posted 10/25/2007 4:07:47 PM | message detail
Not to mention the extreme similarity of the character of Leon/Dante.

As far as I know, Dante was based off Leon.
Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/25/2007 4:08:30 PM | message detail
This is easily tougher than any four pack a niner has faced aside from Link's.

...Samus? Mega Man?
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 10/25/2007 4:09:39 PM | message detail
As a big fan of both DMC and RE franchizes, I can vouch that there will be at least some SFF going on between Dante and Leon. The games do play completely different, but initially large portion of DMC fans were RE fans. As RE went Nintendo exclusive, those unwilling to adopt a new console turned to DMC.
Sonic_Factor | Posted 10/25/2007 4:11:39 PM | message detail
mc is rocketing up atm..
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/25/2007 4:12:56 PM | message detail
Jeeze, Master Chief range from day to night is something else.

10% swing from his lowest point to his highest.
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frisqo | Posted 10/25/2007 4:22:02 PM | message detail
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/25/2007 4:24:06 PM | message detail
10% swing from his lowest point to his highest.

Actually it's closer to 13% >_> <_<
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/25/2007 4:24:19 PM | message detail
MC may very well go over my prediction by the end of the day. Good on him, I feel good about him in the semis yet confident Sonic will make the finals over him.

And Luigi has put this out of reach, expectedly. << lol overrating the picture factor, it reversed the trends of their previous match
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trannyscience | Posted 10/25/2007 4:27:28 PM | message detail
'tis impossible to say what the picture did here.
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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 4:32:54 PM | message detail
I personally don't think the picture did much of anything. I would've had Luigi beating Ganon by about this much had it not been for the pic.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/25/2007 4:37:14 PM | message detail
Fine. I find it highly likely that Ganondorf would be winning this match if he wasn't saddled with this... thing. It just seems so natural; that thing is nigh unrecognizable to many people who might otherwise vote for Ganondorf based on the 3D games. Sure, it's Ganondorf, people should know him... but it's also Solid Snake, etc.

Based on my pre-contest expectations, though, Ganondorf had no business letting Luigi get as close as he did last round in the first place, let alone upend him under ANY circumstances here. I wonder how a Yoshi/Ganondorf match would go...
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/25/2007 4:41:36 PM | message detail
Aw yeah Luigi.

First next round...believe.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/25/2007 4:46:54 PM | message detail
I wonder how a Yoshi/Ganondorf match would go...

augh don't make me choose
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/25/2007 4:59:53 PM | message detail
Yoshi
Ganondorf
Tidus
Pikachu

What's up with this?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/25/2007 5:02:24 PM | message detail
Time .| Ganon ..| Luigi ....| Chief .....| Yuna
05:00 | 23.35% | 24.34% | 27.83% | 24.49%
20:00 | 20.63% | 22.33% | 41.62% | 15.43%

Aw yeah
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/25/2007 5:08:10 PM | message detail
^...what the hell is that?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/25/2007 5:09:10 PM | message detail
That is Master Chief's epic range throughout the day.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/25/2007 5:12:48 PM | message detail
If Master Chief would even get close to 40...watch out Sonic. It won't be easy, but you have to BELIEVE.
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ZFS | Posted 10/25/2007 5:13:28 PM | message detail
I'm not sure if Ganon would be winning with a different picture, but he would probably be doing a good bit better at the least. I figured the LoZ sprite for Ganon is second only to Solid ****. No telling how much it mattered, if it did at all.

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/25/2007 5:14:19 PM | message detail
BRAWLFEAR will pull Sonic through.

Sonic's the name, believe's my game!
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/25/2007 5:25:16 PM | message detail
A lot more people have played the original LoZ than the original MG, but you have to get to the final boss in LoZ to see Ganon compared to seeing Solid at the very beginning...and considering most people who have played it haven't beaten the game, that's arguably comparable. Ganon DID beat Luigi last round and Ganon got a FAR worse picture this round...the case can be made.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/25/2007 5:27:03 PM | message detail
There's not much wiggle-room for Ganondorf doing 'significantly' better with a different picture. Luigi's got, what, sub-51% between the two of their individual totals when you compare them?
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/25/2007 5:34:22 PM | message detail
Wait, didn't Ganon just have a game release (Besides TP). Wasn't it Phantom Hourglass or something? LOL!
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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 5:38:08 PM | message detail
You know... I got to thinking of things about the pic factor... I'm thinking recognizability might not be the main thing.

Solid **** might be mostly the sprite bringing bad memories of the game and just looking bad. I often vote against Solid **** when I'd normally vote Solid Snake given normal pictures... it's not because I haven't seen the sprite. I didn't really like Metal Gear, and that picture looks grotesque. Zelda 1 was loved, the original Metal Gear not so much.

I dunno, I think maybe we're focusing too much on whether a picture brings recognizability to the character. It's probably a factor, sure... but really, thinking that it's the chief factor, especially in this format? Think of it this way: How many people aren't going to recognize their character they'd vote for in a four way poll by name?
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trannyscience | Posted 10/25/2007 5:38:58 PM | message detail
we'll find out in a couple days.
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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 5:44:59 PM | message detail
Not necessarily, though. Even if he looks significantly weaker it could be the other two factors I'm bringing up.

That being said, I also don't think the picture factor means as much in this format, and Snake should hold up fairly well. I've been calling for the picture factor to do something many times and it's bit me every time in this thing. Raiden the coffee maker, Auron overwhelming the pic a few days ago, today, and the atrocious NES Samus not really making a difference makes me doubt it. Big Boss is of course a special case.

Though if anyone that isn't obvious gets hurt by an odd picture it's Raiden... Raiden's such a common name in gaming, and MGS4 Raiden doesn't even have the benefit of having had a game yet.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/25/2007 5:45:14 PM | message detail
Curiously, would you pick...

...44.5% on Bowser or 49.5% on Yoshi?
...40% on Vivi/Ridley/Spyro or 43.5% on Ammy/Ada/Balthier?
...RE4 or DMC1?
...RE2 or DMC3?
...the RE series or the DMC series?
...Leon or Dante head-to-head?
...Leon or Dante tomorrow?
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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 5:47:57 PM | message detail
Dante for all the character questions, RE for all the series questions cept for RE2 vs DMC3.
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