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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/25/2007 7:44:51 AM | message detail
Sonic > Master Chief



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*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

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*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
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Summer 2003 Contest:
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Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
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*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
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2003-2004 Off-Season:
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Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
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Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
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*Match Pictures*

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*Miscellaneous*

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UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
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NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
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http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
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All Time Top 10 Lists:
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http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july2006stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2006stats.htm

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TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/25/2007 8:47:16 AM | message detail
Which would you say is more likely... Master Chief beating Sonic, or Sonic beating Solid Snake? Keep in mind MC will probably end up at 34% or so.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/25/2007 8:50:51 AM | message detail
Depends. If Luigi or Ganondorf are in the poll, MC > Sonic is more likely. Otherwise, Sonic > Snake is more likely.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/25/2007 1:08:15 PM | message detail
Master Chief/Luigi/Dante/Leon is going to be epic. I can see virtually any combination happening aside from Leon taking first. Though I think if funny things happen he can manage second
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/25/2007 1:08:45 PM | message detail
Dante ain't got nothin on game fuel.

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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 1:09:10 PM | message detail
Aw yeah Kleenex top notch 500 post there.
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:09:47 PM | message detail
Ganondorf will win. He'll definitely win.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2007 1:09:48 PM | message detail
I don't see whey there's so much debate for MC/Luigi/Dante/Leon. MC gets first, Luigi probably gets second due to serious LFF between the other two.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/25/2007 1:10:40 PM | message detail
I'll believe this Dante/Leon LFF crap when I see it
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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 1:11:33 PM | message detail
There's no SFF between Dante and Leon. I believe the term was QXFLTSFF or something of the sort.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2007 1:12:08 PM | message detail
Both are Capcom badasses starring in popular action games created by Shinji Mikami.

Yeah.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/25/2007 1:12:24 PM | message detail
No, clearly Dante/Leon LFF will not hurt Dante since Luigi/MC green LFF, and then Leon/Luigi LFF (both they're names start with L AND Leon's premiere game is on GC/Wii).

Clearly Luigi will be dealing with double the LFF of Dante, and MC > Dante will reign supreme.

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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 1:13:59 PM | message detail
Damn! That's been the problem this whole time! Luigi's hitting Chief with some serious LFF. How else can we explain Luigi being the sole survivor of MC's ASV?
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:14:27 PM | message detail
I don't see whey there's so much debate for MC/Luigi/Dante/Leon. MC gets first, Luigi probably gets second due to serious LFF between the other two.

At this point, I can understand any match being debated, and this one really shouldn't be an exception. Chief isn't looking bad, but this is a decisively less impressive performance than his last two, and that's with a Nintendo split. Next round, Luigi will not only be the lone Nintendo character, he'll also stick out like a sore thumb (in a good way, of course), while Chief has to deal with two opponents who are a lot more similar to him than anyone he's faced so far (aside from Vercetti, who we all figured was nothing but fodder by now).
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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 1:16:31 PM | message detail
Heh, sole Nintendo character... where have I heard this one before?

I'll still take Dante for second with some confidence unless he flops tomorrow.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/25/2007 1:17:05 PM | message detail
Honestly this "serious Dante/Leon LFF" crap needs to stop immediately. They're not the same genre, so stop saying it, and there's no such thing as company SFF, unless of course you're talking about big mega companies like Nintendo or something. People don't go to the store and say "oh man Devil May Cry? ...never been interested in thi---- HOLY CRAP CAPCOM MADE IT!?!? I LOVE RE4 AND CAPCOM MADE THAT MUST HAVE IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:17:48 PM | message detail
Of course Dante's gonna flop tomorrow, he's got Double Capcom LFF (DCLFF) with Ammy and Leon!
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:18:33 PM | message detail
Resident Evil 4 and Devil May Cry are about as close to the same genre as you can get. The first RE4 build went on to become Devil May Cry, actually.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:18:48 PM | message detail
i definitely think Leon has SPF going for him...lots of people played through multiple times, especially with the Wii version out

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/25/2007 1:19:08 PM | message detail
Pikachu and Ammy will clearly be suffering from stupid rat LFF.

you heard me. rat.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2007 1:19:09 PM | message detail
If you think there won't be any LFF between them, you're out of your mind. And considering Luigi is pretty much as strong as Dante and Leon to begin with, it gives him an extra advantage.
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Mario Man53245 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:19:26 PM | message detail
You're all wrong, it will be Ganondorf > MC...

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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 1:19:57 PM | message detail
Eh, I really wouldn't call DMC similar to RE4.

Honestly I'd sooner call RE4 similar to Halo than DMC.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:20:12 PM | message detail
Okami for the Wii Factor (OFTWF) is gonna guarentee Ammy 2nd place tomorrow !
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/25/2007 1:20:25 PM | message detail
mc and dante are going to lff each other next round. lopen fan factor imho
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 10/25/2007 1:20:27 PM | message detail
RE4 is super popular because it appeared on a Nintendo platform first(and the fact that it OWNS) but Leon isn't beating Dante tomorrow, i can see Dante>Leon or Dante>Pikachu.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:21:09 PM | message detail
They're both action games with survival horror elements. RE4 focuses a bit more on the horror, while DMC hits action a bit harder. The controls and perspective are different, but they have a very similar appeal.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:21:26 PM | message detail
DMC is an offshoot of RE4...EBOSF (Early Build Off Shoot Factor)

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/25/2007 1:21:41 PM | message detail
RE4 and DMC are nothing alike... why do people say this? I'm convinced every single person who does has never played both games and just likes to say it because an early model of an RE game went on to become DMC.

They play nothing like each other, other than having guns. I guess Snake gets LFF'd by them too if they end up in a match together.

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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/25/2007 1:21:53 PM | message detail
From YoAriel33 Posted 10/25/2007 4:21:09 PM #027
They're both action games with survival horror elements..

mac was right imho
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:22:54 PM | message detail
I've played through both games several times. Their appeal is very similar, so I'm guessing the same types of people will likely be fans of both games/characters. Plus, the design and appeal of the main characters themselves are so similar.
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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 1:23:33 PM | message detail
I really don't consider DMC to have survival horror elements. Dante's just too much of a badass to have any feel of horror. What, because it has demons as enemies? Might as well say Halo has survival horror elements too, as the flood are pretty ugly looking.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:23:37 PM | message detail
YOBLAZER PLEASE STOP TROLLING IT'S NOT FUNNY
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:24:18 PM | message detail
My bad.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/25/2007 1:24:41 PM | message detail
exactly why Luigi's winning next round, baby.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/25/2007 1:25:29 PM | message detail
The game play is so absurdly different this is making my head hurt... I mean really. They're both what you would call mature games, that's basically it. You can easily love one game and absolutely hate the other. It's like calling for LFF between Halo and Luigi because they both appeal to the general public.

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/25/2007 1:26:47 PM | message detail
By the way, I'm not saying all this to say Luigi has no shot next round either, he definitely does, but it's not because of LFF.

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/25/2007 1:27:09 PM | message detail
DMC and RE4 do have similar styles but in gameplay they are as far apart as can be. Style alone doesn't mean someone who loves RE4 will love DMC.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:27:39 PM | message detail
It's because of SPF.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/25/2007 1:28:01 PM | message detail
now now, EC. DMC and RE are not closely related, but that doesn't mean there can't be some minor overlap there. the characters themselves are somewhat similar - cheesy, over the top, "mature" characters. it's no worse than, say, Dante/Hayabusa, or Tifa/Vyse, or whatever else you can come up with.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:28:25 PM | message detail
Halo is definitely more of a SH game then DMC is...the Library alone is creepier than any DMC game...though DMC2 creeped me out cause of how utterly bad they managed to make it...that takes real talent

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:29:11 PM | message detail
Never having really seen Leon in action, I can't say for certain, but Dante and Leon don't strike me as very similar character-wise.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:29:56 PM | message detail
I still don't know what LFF stands for (keep forgetting), but my gut tells me that Chief, Dante, and Leon have a larger overlap between themselves than Luigi, so he'll be benefiting from that. Also, I wouldn't compare him to Ness (the other "only Nintendo character in the poll"), since this result is clearly proving people care about him. He certainly isn't beating chumps right now.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2007 1:30:16 PM | message detail
Leon is a less over the top Dante, and that's not by much. They're practically the same character.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:32:35 PM | message detail
What? Leon is is overly serious compared to the laidback Dante

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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:34:08 PM | message detail
I'd also like to note that neither of them (Dante/Leon) have been tested nearly as greatly as Luigi. Dante in particular has had a pathetically easy path into this round, and he still hasn't managed to look impressive. At least Mean Green is battle-ready!
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Lopen | Posted 10/25/2007 1:34:19 PM | message detail
Looking at this match... I think I got a little caught up in my own Master Chief hype... I used the X-Stat calculator and put Ganondorf and Luigi around 33%, Yuna around 29%, Master Chief at Cloud level... this is only a slight underperformance if he hits ~34-35% (not that he'll stay that low 38% baby!) at the end. I blame overestimating how much Pigman would hurt Ganondorf.

... I've not lost all my resolve, here! Master Chief beats Snake and Sonic easy believe. INVINCIBLE.

... course this doubt was more Cloud and Sonic embarrassing their competition than anything...

... INVINCIBLE.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2007 1:34:38 PM | message detail
...Okay, stop losing updates Luigi.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/25/2007 1:34:59 PM | message detail
Psh, how can you say Leon hasn't been tested? He's toppled the might Pikachu !
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