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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 528
Keno316 | Posted 10/21/2007 11:31:21 PM | message detail |
Man. Cloud's looking to be 48% at least by the time the morning vote hits. CRAAAAAAZY! --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
greatone10 | Posted 10/21/2007 11:35:23 PM | message detail |
I think Crono shares more of a fanbase with Link then Vincent. Notice
how Kefka had almost the same match with Fenix in the second round that
he did in the first round. Post FFVII Square seems to be different from pre-FFVII Square. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. This line waiting for Guru results, because not enough people have played the Mario RPGs. |
YoAriel33 | Posted 10/21/2007 11:35:40 PM | message detail |
I think both Crono and Zero (Zero especially) will benefit if Link gets
his Christian Crusader pic. Of the three competitors, it stands to
reason that Vincent probably has the least overlap with Link, so he'd want Link to be as strong as possible. --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Seginustemple | Posted 10/21/2007 11:38:19 PM | message detail |
That makes sense, Vincent will do better the more Link can take away
Crono and Zero's fanbase. But Crono is good with sprites, and if Link
gets the bible pic then I think Vincent might be boned here. --- If you fail at life you try suicide. If you fail at suicide, what's next? Failing at poetry... - Fidormula |
ZFS | Posted 10/21/2007 11:40:53 PM | message detail |
I don't think Vincent is nearly as reliant on these various factors as
it might seem. I think he's been good enough to not have to worry about
having to rely on a weakened Crono to win here. At the least, we can
say that Crono hasn't increased from last year. Given that a match
between the two would have been near 50/50 last year, Vincent should be
fine regardless of what happens with the picture or Link's percent.
It's going to be very close between those two either way. --- "Ha! No spoony bard could spin a sweeter tale!" |
Haste_2 | Posted 10/21/2007 11:41:01 PM | message detail |
Man... just missing the stats topic a little over a day requires a lot of reading and catch up. =P Come on, Ryu...keep increasing that percentage gap. I need to not worry about even the slightest chance of Auron catching up in the day! Between 2 hours in to the end, Auron made up a 4% difference in the gap between Auron and Ryu. Of course, percentages are lower now, so it shouldn't be too much to worry. What I love about today is that Ryu is in second despite that horrible picture! Anyway, if Ryu wins I'll surely be in the Top 50... finally. I'm the Top 94 right now. The funny thing is that I'm 22 points behind Moltar, and he picked Cloud > Ryu, as well... heh, it's amazing how large the point gap will be between 1st place and 50th! As for Cloud's chances... wow, I'm amazed that he could pull 50%, but looking at previous rounds... I guess it's not so surprising. I figured Cloud overperformed on Ocelot, Marcus, etc. in the previous rounds, but he's showing today that his earlier performances were for real. I think Cloud really is much stronger in this format than in 1-vs.1. Link has quite a bit of pressure on him. I would say Link needs... I'll say, 44%, to look as impressive as Cloud (that may seem high to you, but keep in mind the Crono/Vincent LFF). Wow, Cloud. Wow. Anyway, I've pondered Cloud > Link since Round 2, and my hopes certainly aren't dashed now. I remember people saying Snake would hurt Link more than Cloud... that idea probably wouldn't make much of a difference, but now consider that Sonic now has SSBB, meaning Link would have to deal with two characters in SSBB. Granted, I say MC still has a pretty good shot at beating out Sonic to the finals. This match is over, and the next one is obvious. How about Link/Vincent/Crono/Zero? Zero looked really good in Round 2 compared to Round 1... he just might hold up well. If Yoshi can evade SFF from Mega Man in 4-way, then Zero can do the same, right? =P It'll be a barnburner, that one. I'm kinda expecting Link > Vincent > Zero > Crono, though. I have an interesting thought: I know Link SFFed Zelda like crazy, but maybe Zelda hurt Link a decent amount. if you replaced Zelda with some other low-fodder Link would've gotten like 3% higher. That's a thought, anyway. In that way, Link would have more of an excuse compared to what Cloud's doing. by the way, I hope you're all planning on making final match pics with WW Link. I plan to try and get the board to do this en masse! You know... it would make sense for the final pics to have WW Link... or, rather, Phantom Hourglass Link! Heheheh... too bad people won't do that. I know! Let's petition SBAllen to do one single match picture, and ensure that he uses the pictures from the characters' most recent game! --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
greatone10 | Posted 10/21/2007 11:46:57 PM | message detail |
I don't think Vincent has too much to worry about even if Link gets his
NES sprite. He has fared well against Sprite Crono before. I don't
think Link's NES sprite will affect Link as much as everyone says it
will. All Vincent needs to worry about is just being strong enough to
actually beat Crono, which is very debatable. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. This line waiting for Guru results, because not enough people have played the Mario RPGs. |
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2007 11:55:29 PM | message detail |
I don't think Link's NES sprite will affect Link as much as everyone says it will. To be fair, I think he's had it once... and in retrospect, it may have been the worst match of his career, going by stats. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
Lopen | Posted 10/21/2007 11:59:32 PM | message detail |
It's my dream for the sprite to cause Link to
perform so bad that Zero and Vincent oust him in round 3. Only 67% on
Magus? Man, Zero and Vincent could outdo that these days! --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2007 12:00:43 AM | message detail |
And I want Cloud to win as much as the rest of the kewl kids, but I'm
not really down for it happening with Link saddled in WW/PH pictures.
If he were to (against all odds) win again, and that was the picture
used, we'll hear the same thing we've heard for the last four years in
a greater volume than ever before (and it will be well justified!). Not
that Cloud > Link won't be enough to make that worth it on its own,
but the odds of it happening are so astronomically out there to me that
I'd rather Cloud just go the whole distance if he's gonna put up a
fight. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/22/2007 12:02:49 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/sc2k3/sum03b49.jpg Magus' sprite is so awesome. Almost makes me wish he'd beaten out Big Boss last round. |
Lopen | Posted 10/22/2007 12:02:54 AM | message detail |
Man get offa this Cloud > Link hype train. Link > Master Chief! We'll get a hearty helping of believe soon when still stronger opponents barely budge his percentage! Or... Cloud > Master Chief... oh gawd that would be the greatest result ever. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/22/2007 12:03:42 AM | message detail |
Time. | Cloud ...| Marcus .| Auron ...| Ryu 01:00 | 46.66% | 10.87% | 19.12% | 23.36% 02:00 | 47.47% | 11.59% | 18.40% | 22.54% 03:00 | 49.05% | 09.84% | 17.58% | 23.53% Poor Auron. --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
Haste_2 | Posted 10/22/2007 12:31:42 AM | message detail |
Here's the top quarter of the bracket... the
x-stats as of Round 2! ...adjusted to the nearest .25%, that is. I'm
afraid I don't have the tools right now... They use King Morgoth's formula... anyway, if there were two stats to choose from, I just chose the one in the "closer" match, which would be Round 1. i.e., I chose Kefka's x-stat based off of Marcus in Round 1, not Marcus in Round 2. I didn't arbitrarily adjust -anyone- for SFF. But, if, say, a character was LFF/SFFed in Round 2, I'll obviously use their Round 1 value. Yoshi - 32.25% Knuckles - 27.25% Rikku - 26.75% Vaan - 11.00%* Mega Man - 39.00% KOS-MOS - 19.25% Arthas - 16.75%* Diablo - 16.50%* Samus - 44.00% Frog - 22.00% Axel - 22.00% Kerrigan - 13.75% Scorpion - 28.50% Midna - 21.75% Kratos Aurion - 19.25% Agent 47 - 16.50% Cloud Strife- 58.00% Revolver Ocelot - 22.50% Jil valentine - 20.25% Midgar Zolom - 7.75%* Marcus Fenix - 23.25% Kefka - 20.00% Tom Noook - 13.50% Zelos Wilder - 9.50% Auron - 37.00% Shadow the Hedgehog - 26.75% Pyramid Head - 18.00% Chris Redfield - 16.75% Ryu - 30.00% Bowser - 28.00% Mewtwo - 25.25% Toad - 11.75%* *Vaan [likely... and insert likely in EVERY statement] suffered SFF. *Diablo and Arthas LFFed each other. *Midgar Zolom suffered SFF. *Toad suffered SFF. *I won't point out every possible anomaly. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
Haste_2 | Posted 10/22/2007 12:34:03 AM | message detail |
I hate Cloud. The rankings of his voting periods goes like this: 2nd
Night > Day > Morning > 1st Night > Early vote. I guess the
ASV will change that a bit... Cloud'll probably maintain his percentage
once the ASV starts, and he'll rise again in the final few hours. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
Kaxon | Posted 10/22/2007 12:35:13 AM | message detail |
Zero looked really good in Round 2 compared to Round 1... he just
might hold up well. If Yoshi can evade SFF from Mega Man in 4-way, then
Zero can do the same, right? =P It'll be a barnburner, that one. I'm
kinda expecting Link > Vincent > Zero > Crono, though. My conclusion from that match is exactly the opposite. Yoshi looked good in round 2, but he still ended up looking pretty crappy in round 3 - given his previous performance and his place in the Favorite Mario Character poll, I thought he had a chance of doing a lot more. More importantly, look what Scorpion, Lara, Vergil, and every other weakest character in a triple LFF match has done: jack. The weakest character in the match has never gotten anywhere no matter how favorable the circumstances. Vincent beating Crono is plenty likely, but Zero's not advancing because he's not as strong as any of the other guys, end of story. --- red blue green |
Haste_2 | Posted 10/22/2007 12:44:52 AM | message detail |
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smitelf | Posted 10/22/2007 12:46:06 AM | message detail |
The weakest character in the match has never gotten anywhere no
matter how favorable the circumstances. Vincent beating Crono is plenty
likely, but Zero's not advancing because he's not as strong as any of
the other guys, end of story. Zero has a way better chance than you're giving him. a) Zero is the most powerful least powerful character we've seen in a match so far by a significant margin; he's going to be more resistant to the 4th-wheel factor. b) Even if Zero gets absolutely nothing out of the LFF between Vincent and Crono and all the excess goes to Link, Vincent and Crono's %ages could be driven so low that they'd be in Zero's ballpark. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
smitelf | Posted 10/22/2007 12:55:58 AM | message detail |
^ I should note, however, that I still think Zero will get 4th place - but the chances for an upset from him are not at all bad. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
greatone10 | Posted 10/22/2007 1:05:12 AM | message detail |
To be fair, I think he's had it once... and in retrospect, it may have been the worst match of his career, going by stats. You're looking at the wrong side of the picture for the blame. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. This line waiting for Guru results, because not enough people have played the Mario RPGs. |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/22/2007 1:52:34 AM | message detail |
Well, Auron's been getting that strange 4am stall that we've been seeing off and on throughout the contest. Keeping a small chance alive for the day vote. I still think it's too far to come back from though. |
Xcarvengerx | Posted 10/22/2007 1:57:39 AM | message detail |
4am stall = East Asian ASV and European morning/day votes... --- Xcarvengerx (scar-fan-gear-rex) /n/ = A plethora of quixotic illumination. The cream of Chocobo fanboyism. |
Haste_2 | Posted 10/22/2007 2:03:56 AM | message detail |
X-stats... part two. Sephiroth - 49.00% Meta Knight - 22.75%* Princess Peach - 19.75%* CATS - 14.75% Fox McCloud - 23.75%* Wario - 14.75%* Captain Falcon - 12.75%* Banjo - 9.25%* Mario - 45.00% Big Boss - R1=24.50%;R2=29.75% Pac-Man - 12.00%* Wander - 10.75% Magus - 22.75% Phoenix Wright - 19.00% Bomberman - 19.00% Crash Bandicoot - 17.25% Link - 56.00% Bidoof - 20.00% Miles Edgeworth - 120.00% Agent J - 6.00% Vincent Valentine - 38.00% Zelda - 32.25% The Boss - 19.50% Miles "Tails" Prower - 19.25% Crono - 35.00% Raiden - 19.25% Sam Fisher - 19.00% Simon Belmont - 12.00% Zero - 32.50% HK-47 - 21.00% Lloyd Irving - 20.25% Jak - 19.00% *Meta Knight and Peach suffered from fanbase split. *Fox hurt by LFF, but regained some strength from SFF. *Wario, Captain Falcon, and Banjo hurt by LFF and SFF. *Pac-Man hurt by SFF *I'm tempted to say that Zero overperformed in Round 2 relative to Round 1 due to picture difference, and that Tails underperformed for similar reasons as Knuckles and Shadow in Round 2. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/22/2007 2:09:07 AM | message detail |
Edgeworth>Link+Cloud. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/22/2007 2:26:20 AM | message detail |
A 1500 vote lead going into the morning? I kind of expected more. Oh well, it's enough I guess --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
Haste_2 | Posted 10/22/2007 3:25:25 AM | message detail |
Auron/Ryu definitely isn't over yet. Auron was winning by 6% in the
morning of the Round 2 at 6:00 EST, but he won by 10% in the end. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/22/2007 3:25:58 AM | message detail |
RX-78 Gundam < Optimus Prime Iron Man < Master Chief Tetsuo Shima < Darth Vader Eva Unit-02 > VF 1-J Valkyrie Boba Fett < Riddick Major Kusanagi > Battle Angel Alita Vash the Stampede > Spike Spiegel and today's match: Samus Aran vs. Storm >,> http://www.angryzenmaster.com/category/super-geek-wars/ --- Our life is short and our days run; as fast away as does the sun. And as a vapour or a drop of rain; once lost can ne'er be found again. |
Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/22/2007 3:32:31 AM | message detail |
Sext results, the only way Ryu could lose now is if he's actually DK in disguise --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. Kyle Bowen: Ignore me then and dont be an ass when I post. It solves everything. |
Haste_2 | Posted 10/22/2007 3:56:41 AM | message detail |
Well done, Ryu. Here's the 3rd set of x-stats based off of Round 1/2 data. Ganondorf - 34.00% Vergil = 17.75% Thrall - 16.00% Ratchet - 14.00% Luigi - 31.75% Mudkip - 23.00% (Round 1)* Pit - 16.75%* Tingle - 7.50%* Master Chief - R1=38.75%;R2=45.00% Yuna - 30.00% Tommy Vercetti - 16.75%* PaRappa - 11.25% Liquid Snake - 25.00% Alucard - 25.00% Ness - 23.50% Zidane - 18.75% Dante - 32.00% Amaterasu - 19.25% Little Mac - 14.75% Matt - 10.75% Ada Wong - 18.00% Balthier - 16.25% Frank West - 11.25% Jade Curtiss - 5.25% Leon Kennedy - 31.00% Vivi Ornitier - 26.25% Ridley - 18.00% Spyro the Dragon - 10.25% Pikachu - 24.75% Tidus - 25.25% Isaac - 14.25% (16.00% LFF-adj)* Serge - 11.75% (13.00% LFF-adj)* *Pit and Tingle SFFed *Mudkip performed noticeably better in Round 2, but it's difficult to guage due to unknown amounts of LFF in both Round 1 and 2. *Vercetti SFFed? *Serge most likely affected by LFF and SFF, and possibly Isaac. Neither are adjusted for SFF. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/22/2007 4:45:53 AM | message detail |
People think Zolom was SFF'd? IT'S A SNAKE. NOT AN ACTUAL FFVII CHARACTER. THEY WOULDN'T VOTE FOR IT. --- Ask Heroic Mario about your bracket. I am a ToS fanboy and I love Kratos/Lloyd yaoi |
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/22/2007 4:46:08 AM | message detail |
finally back... awesome to see Sonic performing well last round, giving
some hope back to my Sonic > Snake I pick. Now all Snake has to do
is under perform with a sprite pic, and give me even more false hope,
so I can cry about my bracket when Sonic loses miserably. Too bad
sprites didn't wait one more round, not that it's even a guarantee that
Snake will get a sprite this round, since Bacon doesn't seem too
worried about making sure everyone has one. Anyway, awesome to see Ryu winning here, I didn't feel that great about him after the showing Auron put up last round, even though I still thought Ryu should be the favorite. Don't think Auron can come back from this large of a deficit, but it's still possible I guess. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
Who Cares? | Posted 10/22/2007 4:47:35 AM | message detail |
*Wakes up dissapointed Ryu's lead wasn't bigger* I gotta say, I'm really liking Ryu's chances right now. Even though Auron seems to have 'woken up' around the 4th hour, he has just been unable to drag Ryu out of the 1400 lead range...and we're right in the middle of his absolute worst time. If he can keep fending him off til Noon-ish, he should have it sealed away. --- Current Points: 215 -- 30th on Leaderboard 11/17/07: The day Street Fighter 4 became a reality! |
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/22/2007 4:50:48 AM | message detail |
Yeah, considering this is supposed to be epic ryu collapse is epic
time, I'm liking his chances, not to say anything is a lock though. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/22/2007 6:07:13 AM | message detail |
Man, the best Auron can do is stall the epic Street Fighter morning vote? GG And ^5 to all the Zero talk. TuRtLe ~~~ 221/272 in the contest. Next pick: Cloud > Bowser (lol) BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
Master Moltar | Posted 10/22/2007 6:44:41 AM | message detail |
Auron's looking worse than I thought. Cloud's just flat-out destroying
him. Even with Ryu's weak morning vote, Auron couldn't do anything. Auron isn't coming back from this one... --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Cloud/Marcus/Auron/Ryu - Bracket: Cloud > Ryu - Vote: Auron (231/272) |
YoAriel33 | Posted 10/22/2007 6:46:05 AM | message detail |
It's long since been over. Can't really blame Auron or Ryu since they're badass. BOWSER YOU FAT PIECE OF CRAP DON'T COME CRYING TO ME WHEN I HAVE YOUR WASHED UP ASS GOING OUT IN THE FIRST ROUND NEXT YEAR --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Ed Bellis | Posted 10/22/2007 7:18:15 AM | message detail |
go shadow waaaah --- This was KING BELLIS LOL "OoT doesn't have "the magic" because it has no Tingle." - onethousandfingers |
wavedash101 | Posted 10/22/2007 7:23:54 AM | message detail |
Bowser will be back with SMG at the helm ;_; --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Annoying posters! I am the great wavedash! [no u cru] |
Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/22/2007 8:01:42 AM | message detail |
Not to mention Bowser's newfound top tierness in SSBB. Master Chief - R1=38.75%;R2=45.00% Yuna - 30.00% Tommy Vercetti - 16.75%* PaRappa - 11.25% Liquid Snake - 25.00% Alucard - 25.00% Ness - 23.50% Zidane - 18.75% Every single character in this division looks stronger than they're supposed to be. Why is that? --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
creativename | Posted 10/22/2007 9:38:43 AM | message detail |
Haste2 Here's the top quarter of the bracket... the x-stats as of Round 2! ...adjusted to the nearest .25%, that is. I'm afraid I don't have the tools right now... Are you using Morgoth's spreadsheet with excel solver? Openoffice calc has some sort of solver too I think if you don't have excel. Kaxon My conclusion from that match is exactly the opposite. Yoshi looked good in round 2, but he still ended up looking pretty crappy in round 3 - given his previous performance and his place in the Favorite Mario Character poll, I thought he had a chance of doing a lot more. More importantly, look what Scorpion, Lara, Vergil, and every other weakest character in a triple LFF match has done: jack. The weakest character in the match has never gotten anywhere no matter how favorable the circumstances. Vincent beating Crono is plenty likely, but Zero's not advancing because he's not as strong as any of the other guys, end of story. Kaxon is correct, Zero really doesn't have much of a shot here. He might have a remote shot at 3rd due to some funkiness, but 2nd? Not really. Don't be too surprised to see him struggle to get 15%. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
creativename | Posted 10/22/2007 9:47:16 AM | message detail |
Here's the sheet http://oraclechallenge.com/New-X-Stats.xls I make a square difference column compared with the actuals, and use solver to minimize it, pegging one of the values as constant and changing the other three. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
hochiminh155 | Posted 10/22/2007 10:03:56 AM | message detail |
Here's what I think. Tomorrow's match is boring so the match after is what I care about Link: 43% Vincent: 20% Crono: 21% Zero: 16% --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Victory Future winner of the Summer 2007 Contest |
hochiminh155 | Posted 10/22/2007 10:05:00 AM | message detail |
I also just realized. Once again Yuna outlasts Auron for FFX rep. --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Victory Future winner of the Summer 2007 Contest |
Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/22/2007 10:08:16 AM | message detail |
That's because she's a better character ^_^ --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. Kyle Bowen: Ignore me then and dont be an ass when I post. It solves everything. |
YoAriel33 | Posted 10/22/2007 10:26:34 AM | message detail |
I think they're both fine characters. |
wavedash101 | Posted 10/22/2007 10:39:25 AM | message detail |
I think Jecht is a fine character but he'll never get his due! --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Annoying posters! I am the great wavedash! [no u cru] |
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/22/2007 10:55:16 AM | message detail |
I think yoblazers ass is fine. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/22/2007 11:28:39 AM | message detail |
Neither Auron nor Yuna are good characters, but Yuna's worse. She won't be outlasting Auron though. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
eaglesarebeasts | Posted 10/22/2007 11:35:32 AM | message detail |
Cloud to 49 percent. Jolly good show --- "When the going gets tough, the tough get Skies of Arcadia!"- ganondorf287 |
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/22/2007 11:38:26 AM | message detail |
*48.99 --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |