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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 528
| mr_BRIAN | Posted 10/21/2007 9:52:24 PM | message detail |
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Holy jebus Auron you suck. Holy jebus Cloud you don't. o_o --- I know you love me... I wanna wad you up into my life... We may be Janus5000. But We may not be. We are not sure. |
| ZFS | Posted 10/21/2007 9:52:26 PM | message detail |
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justice gamefaqs justice --- "Ha! No spoony bard could spin a sweeter tale!" |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:52:36 PM | message detail |
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The problem for Link is that he's faced two characters who would score
well on practically anyone, while Cloud has been blessed with people
who appear at least kind of decent but would fold in the presence of
such strength. Take Link's first match, for instance. He put up 70.5%, but it just didn't seem too impressive when noting his massive strength and the weakness of his opponents. However, one of those opponents was piece of **** Bidoof, who, while a Nintendo character, was also a joke character relatively resistant from SFF. Replace Bidoof (in both rounds) with a far more established, stronger character like Yoshi, and I guarantee you that Link's percentage takes nothing more than a tiny dent, and he'd look more impressive in most everyone's eyes. --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:53:03 PM | message detail |
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transience, you simply have no idea what you're talking about. --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Victory Future winner of the Summer 2007 Contest |
| Iubaris | Posted 10/21/2007 9:53:53 PM | message detail |
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Impressive, Cloud. --- It's iubaris, not Lubaris. Bracket: 190/272; Oracle: 71st |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2007 9:53:56 PM | message detail |
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Yoshi would also get the piss SFFed out of him, so that's not too much of a stretch... Obviously the reason Link hasn't looked CRAZY is Bidoof, which is why no one's really talked *down* his chances. People just keep talking up Cloud's because OH GOD --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:54:00 PM | message detail |
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yeah i think tranny's mind is going in his old age. ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9855-550x-contra-poster-2-dsf.jpg |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/21/2007 9:54:12 PM | message detail |
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Look at the stats topic turn into one big Cloud > Link bandwagon. hochi for Champion CB2k7! --- Who the hell do you think you are getting off being so egotistical like that? - hochiminh155 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2007 9:54:14 PM | message detail |
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Looks like someone else's (Harrich's?) theory (which I bought into)
of being reduced to core fanbase, used to explain Mega Man not SFFing
Yoshi much in this format, is failing for Auron here. But for Cloud to
SFF Auron, who looked so dominant until this match, this much...that's
godly impressive by Cloud. It was a good theory, at least, and it looked good on paper...but, for what it's worth, Cloud and Auron have a more direct connection than Mega/Yoshi or Bowser/Ryu. That's one thing I didn't account for, but it could also be that Ryu has a more supportive fanbase than Knux/Mewtwo/KOS/Toad. It could be various things, but I won't bother defending the theory much anymore. Dammit, thought I was onto something! Auron's not out of it yet though, at least...but he can't let this keep on. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| creativename | Posted 10/21/2007 9:55:24 PM | message detail |
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49% during the FF7-is-the-worst-thing-ever hour!? Cloud are sick (I don't even know what that's a reference too) this place seems to be struck with Cloudmania out of desperation to have a good match and/or because they want Cloud to win. You're saying that people will "berieve" in Cloud's chances too much out of bias overcoming logic, but really, it's logic that's pointing so heavily in favor of Cloud right now. I'm mean, at this point it's becoming an AVALANCHE [a word I was writing there even before remembering the connotation :) ] --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:56:35 PM | message detail |
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these gains aren't as big any more my theory that ryu is a power hour character confirmed auron has this. ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9855-550x-contra-poster-2-dsf.jpg |
| ZFS | Posted 10/21/2007 9:57:13 PM | message detail |
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I think it's not as close as others in here do, actually. this place
seems to be struck with Cloudmania out of desperation to have a good
match and/or because they want Cloud to win. I'm just not seeing it. it
goes against all reason. maybe I have Linkfear, but it's certainly
justified. It's not as though people are trying to look for something that isn't there, or trying to undermine any of Link's performances. He's been solid -- he's been Link. But it's hard to deny that Cloud has been the more impressive of the two each round. There's hasn't been any Cloud/Sonic match yet that basically foretold what was going to happen, but it's certainly starting to build up to that. Whether or not it happens is another story, but when there's a pattern of impressive performance after impressive performance, it's worth the time to consider Cloud winning there. Some of it may be people wanting Cloud to see, or to see a good finals match for once, but it's not without merit to consider the upset. --- "Ha! No spoony bard could spin a sweeter tale!" |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2007 9:57:29 PM | message detail |
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to be fair, it's not the first time the stats topic has done such a thing. :) --- xyzzy |
| smitelf | Posted 10/21/2007 9:58:30 PM | message detail |
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Jesus, Cloud. Okay, I think he's getting above 50%. These updates are
ridiculous. This is supposed to be his weakest hour, and he's already
doing absurdly well. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:58:34 PM | message detail |
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Also I don't think there's really one upper Nintendo midcarder that can
make Cloud look as "human" as Vincent has done with Link. For one,
Vincent is naturally stronger than the nearest Nintendo representative,
Ganondorf, and Vincent also seems like he's better suited for this
format. --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2007 9:58:42 PM | message detail |
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The stats topic bandwagoning sexy upsets is the best part about it! aww yeah Tifa > Sonic let's do this --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/21/2007 9:59:12 PM | message detail |
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Snake is going to be in the poll. he's going to hurt Cloud more than Link (BR confirms this). Not significantly at all. 10.36% went to Cloud 9.28% went to Link I think Sonic can definitely hurt Link more than that. |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2007 10:00:31 PM | message detail |
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But it's hard to deny that Cloud has been the more impressive of the two each round. mmm... yeah, Cloud has been more impressive. relative to Cloud's expectations. if you put Link's expectations on him, it's a different story. outdoing expectations by 2-3% doesn't really impress me all that much - I do my best not to freak out over a slight "overperformance". that said, it's not an overperformance when it happens repeatedly, and I'm impressed by Cloud today. not enough to think he's going to beat Link though. --- xyzzy |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2007 10:00:57 PM | message detail |
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was it really that close? I stand corrected then. I thought it was like 65-35. --- xyzzy |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 10/21/2007 10:01:08 PM | message detail |
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I think Sonic can definitely hurt Link more than that. Especially since Sonic is now in Brawl and also because Tails drained Zelda. --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Victory Future winner of the Summer 2007 Contest |
| ZFS | Posted 10/21/2007 10:01:17 PM | message detail |
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what's up 51% update for Cloud --- "Ha! No spoony bard could spin a sweeter tale!" |
| Keno316 | Posted 10/21/2007 10:01:20 PM | message detail |
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And 51% update. Power HOur is over! --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| paraboxx | Posted 10/21/2007 10:01:39 PM | message detail |
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| creativename | Posted 10/21/2007 10:01:44 PM | message detail |
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Jesus, Cloud. Okay, I think he's getting above 50%. These updates
are ridiculous. This is supposed to be his weakest hour, and he's
already doing absurdly well. Yeah, like I said, it took him hours in his previous matches to even get a *single update* that matched his final percentage. 50% is looking really good right now. Man, I didn't think he could actually pull it off. The stats topic bandwagoning sexy upsets is the best part about it! aww yeah Tifa > Sonic let's do this At this rate, Link>Cloud is going to become the sexy upset. Yeah I went there. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/21/2007 10:02:14 PM | message detail |
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Cloud just got a 51% update. Cloud's Change from an hour in until the end in round 1: +7.56% Round 2: +4.82% --- Character Battle VI -- Points: 179/256 -- T-474 (42 way) Bracket: Samus > Megaman -- Vote: Megaman |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2007 10:02:21 PM | message detail |
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Cloud this performance has changed my life thank you --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| paraboxx | Posted 10/21/2007 10:02:38 PM | message detail |
| The fact that Ryu's built up a 500 vote lead
within the first hour is comforting, no doubt. With the crazy stuff
we've seen so far in this contest, though, he's got a long way to go
before he's actually safe. Sadly, I don't think this confirms an SF4 boost yet, either. He'll need to end up over 25% at least for that to be the case. This could just be plain ol' SFF. |
| Who Cares? | Posted 10/21/2007 10:02:47 PM | message detail |
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Comparing Ryu's lead after the 1st hour in his first two matches: Round 1 Lead Bowser by 739 Lead rest of the match virtually unchallenged Round 2 Lead over Bowser by 273 Smallest Lead after 6th Hour: 1298 during the 11th Hour --- Current Points: 215 -- 30th on Leaderboard 11/17/07: The day Street Fighter 4 became a reality! |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2007 10:04:24 PM | message detail |
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Not significantly at all. 10.36% went to Cloud 9.28% went to Link I think Sonic can definitely hurt Link more than that. How much worse are you talking about? In the day it was Link/Cloud/Solid, Link still beat Cloud by 9%. Especially since Sonic is now in Brawl and also because Tails drained Zelda. 1) Sonic and Snake will fight each other for Brawl-hype. 2) You're talking out of your ass about Tails draining Zelda. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| ZFS | Posted 10/21/2007 10:04:40 PM | message detail |
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that said, it's not an overperformance when it happens repeatedly,
and I'm impressed by Cloud today. not enough to think he's going to
beat Link though. Yeah. There's no problem in being skeptical of Cloud's chances against Link. I mean, it is Link, after all. But I think when we're seeing repeated matches where Cloud is looking like he could possibly upset Link, it's not that big of a deal for people to start hyping it up -- especially when we've seen it happen all of once. But yeah, we just gotta wait to see what happens with Link later before dooming him to second! --- "Ha! No spoony bard could spin a sweeter tale!" |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/21/2007 10:06:15 PM | message detail |
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If Cloud is going to beat Link, it will be because of his own strength.
Sonic may not be able to close a 9% gap, but if Cloud is as strong as
Link he won't have to. --- Character Battle VI -- Points: 179/256 -- T-474 (42 way) Bracket: Samus > Megaman -- Vote: Megaman |
| Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/21/2007 10:06:25 PM | message detail |
| Oh, and all the attention given to Ryu for never going below 40% in a match is definitely justified now, he didn't just get lucky hitting NNers in down years. Very solid fanbase. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2007 10:06:45 PM | message detail |
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Round 1 Lead Bowser by 739 Lead rest of the match virtually unchallenged Round 2 Lead over Bowser by 273 Smallest Lead after 6th Hour: 1298 during the 11th Hour While worth noting, it is also worth noting that Bowser is rather terrible with the day-vote. Auron is better with it than the Koopa King. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2007 10:07:07 PM | message detail |
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But yeah, we just gotta wait to see what happens with Link later before dooming him to second! thank you! this is all I am hoping for -- to see Link in a legitimate match before judging him, not something involving the beaver. link believes in miracles --- xyzzy |
| Seginustemple | Posted 10/21/2007 10:07:39 PM | message detail |
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Hmm. When I think about it, Link's round two performance might be more impressive than if Cloud pulls 50+ here. Auron>Ryu>>>>Marcus without Cloud in the poll Vincent>Zelda>>>>Bidoof without Link in the poll Vincent>Auron Zelda<Ryu Bidoof>Marcus Call me crazy, but I think Link's fourpack last round might be a bit tougher than Cloud's right now. Go ahead, Cloud>Link bandwan, skewer me! --- If you fail at life you try suicide. If you fail at suicide, what's next? Failing at poetry... - Fidormula |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2007 10:08:29 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and all the attention given to Ryu for never going below 40% in
a match is definitely justified now, he didn't just get lucky hitting
NNers in down years. Very solid fanbase. while I agree, some of that is of course luck. hit Ryu up with a Clinkeroth match and we're probably looking at a doubling. --- xyzzy |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2007 10:08:34 PM | message detail |
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Link's fourpack is tougher than Cloud's, yes. It's not necessarily tougher than it with LINK in the match... --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/21/2007 10:08:47 PM | message detail |
| Link's fourpack is obviously stronger than this
one in indirect strength. However, Link made Zelda look worse than
Bidoof and he obviously got the lionshares of her support. --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
| transience | Posted 10/21/2007 10:09:12 PM | message detail |
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sure, strength-wise Link's fourpack is better.. but there's a Link/Zelda match in the way. --- xyzzy |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 10/21/2007 10:09:50 PM | message detail |
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With Link, Zelda was equlivalent to Tanner --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Victory Future winner of the Summer 2007 Contest |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2007 10:10:18 PM | message detail |
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I don't understand where all this Auron support is coming from. Vincent
and Squall are a clear step above Auron, and I suspect Ganondorf would
also win in a rematch. TuRtLe ~~~ 221/272 in the contest. Next pick: Cloud > Bowser (lol) BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/21/2007 10:10:50 PM | message detail |
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Do you guys think it's possible that the gap between Link and Cloud was
smaller than Link's win 54/46 win dictated, and he only received such a
comfortable win due to the Wii and Twilight Princess launch? --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 10/21/2007 10:11:06 PM | message detail |
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Look at Auron's last match. Could you really see Ganon or Squall doing that? --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Victory Future winner of the Summer 2007 Contest |
| Seginustemple | Posted 10/21/2007 10:11:09 PM | message detail |
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I know, the massive SFF and all that. But I can't help but see a lot of
SFF from Auron - Cloud here too.....ehh, I really want to see Link's
next match... --- If you fail at life you try suicide. If you fail at suicide, what's next? Failing at poetry... - Fidormula |
| creativename | Posted 10/21/2007 10:11:17 PM | message detail |
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But yeah, we just gotta wait to see what happens with Link later before dooming him to second! Yes, this becomes a trading performances game. We have to wait for Link now. Of course, if we do see LoZ Link things might get harder to interpret. Oh, and all the attention given to Ryu for never going below 40% in a match is definitely justified now, he didn't just get lucky hitting NNers in down years. Very solid fanbase. He does have a solid fanbase, but let's wait for his day collapse before jumping to conclusions. He's only winning here because of SFF. While worth noting, it is also worth noting that Bowser is rather terrible with the day-vote. Auron is better with it than the Koopa King. Tough to say what's going to happen to Auron's day vote with Cloud there though. Cloud absolutely thrashing Ryu with the ASV, while Auron stays roughly constant, might be Auron's best hope. It's looking bleak right now though, even if it is within the realm of possibility. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Keno316 | Posted 10/21/2007 10:11:29 PM | message detail |
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Ryu's updates are definitely shooting up now. Auron is screwed! --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 10/21/2007 10:12:26 PM | message detail |
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Do you guys think it's possible that the gap between Link and Cloud
was smaller than Link's win 54/46 win dictated, and he only received
such a comfortable win due to the Wii and Twilight Princess launch? The Twilight Princess HYPE did, in fact give Link a big boost that day. But now that TP is out and a bust, Link, along with all the other Zelda characters have weakened. --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Victory Future winner of the Summer 2007 Contest |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/21/2007 10:13:35 PM | message detail |
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It's definitely possible- Square did very well last year, with Vincent,
Squall, Sora, and Tifa all impressing. Cloud's performance on day 1 of
the BR also seemed to me to be a little better than his final defeat to
Link. --- Character Battle VI -- Points: 179/256 -- T-474 (42 way) Bracket: Samus > Megaman -- Vote: Megaman |
| Keno316 | Posted 10/21/2007 10:13:46 PM | message detail |
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Do you guys think it's possible that the gap between Link and Cloud
was smaller than Link's win 54/46 win dictated, and he only received
such a comfortable win due to the Wii and Twilight Princess launch? I've honestly been contemplating that for a while. It really does seem like game hype > game release in some cases... ...Just not for Master Chief. >> --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| creativename | Posted 10/21/2007 10:14:25 PM | message detail |
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I don't understand where all this Auron support is coming from.
Vincent and Squall are a clear step above Auron, and I suspect
Ganondorf would also win in a rematch. I really don't know about this. Do you guys think it's possible that the gap between Link and Cloud was smaller than Link's win 54/46 win dictated, and he only received such a comfortable win due to the Wii and Twilight Princess launch? That would actually explain a lot. Did someone bring this up before? This sounds familiar, but I had forgotten about it. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
