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Warsola | Posted 10/21/2007 9:21:50 PM | message detail
If Vincent is a midcarder, Cloud is barely at the elite stage.
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creativename | Posted 10/21/2007 9:21:50 PM | message detail
Cloud would have to put up a CRAZY percentage -- I'm talking 55% -- before I started to consider Cloud > Link.

Dude, if Cloud put up 55%, the final would be freakin' LOCK.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2007 9:22:21 PM | message detail
ohhhhhhhhhhhh dear

uhh

well marcus fenix is rising and i guess that's cool


YOU GUESSED WRONG :(
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:22:41 PM | message detail
Holy frijole, Not even I envisioned that Cloud would be doing THIS good. He's on track to break 50%. If you people are getting on this train now, I need to tell you one thing. I am the conductor, I saw Cloud > Link before this contest began.
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ZFS | Posted 10/21/2007 9:23:16 PM | message detail
I thought 45% was about what should be expected; anything more would be impressive, anything less slightly disappointing. Cloud would have to put up a CRAZY percentage -- I'm talking 55% -- before I started to consider Cloud > Link. I'll never count it out, but it's just false hope.

Eh, I think that's asking too much. I wouldn't even take Link to get that much on these guys, so there isn't really a need for Cloud to do it. That said, I do think he needs to get around 50% for taken pretty seriously. If he's only dropping 6% from last round with this competition, that's impressive enough to warrant some serious discussion about Cloud winning it.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2007 9:23:16 PM | message detail
I would be astonished if Link got above 40% in his next match. A NNer and two NN-breakers? Not gonna happen, I don't care who you are.

Zero's a NN-breaker? Maybe before 2k5.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:23:17 PM | message detail
"holy frijole"
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Seginustemple | Posted 10/21/2007 9:23:20 PM | message detail
uhhh what

Isn't there a Zero>Crono train somewhere? I lol'd at it, but Zero isn't a chump any way you look at it.
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creativename | Posted 10/21/2007 9:23:38 PM | message detail
45% against Auron, Ryu, and Marcus or 51% against Vincent, Zelda, and Bidoof

O_O
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smitelf | Posted 10/21/2007 9:23:44 PM | message detail
Dude, if Cloud put up 55%, the final would be freakin' LOCK.

Yeah, come on, Link's been impressive, but Cloud is a serious contender if he reaches 50%.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:24:32 PM | message detail
And Cloud is over 45% already!

Cloud's percentage increase from 20 minutes in to the end in round 1: +10.57%
Cloud's percentage increase from 20 minutes in to the end in round 2: +5.60%
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:24:35 PM | message detail
bt alone does not a train make.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:25:01 PM | message detail
Isn't there a Zero>Crono train somewhere? I lol'd at it, but Zero isn't a chump any way you look at it.

Saving this so I can lol at you

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2007 9:25:08 PM | message detail
lol transience more like no one agrees with you

...I'm sad now
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 10/21/2007 9:25:14 PM | message detail
Anybody who says Cloud > Link isn't possible is the poster boy for ignorance. Anything can happen in this contest has been shown time and time again. Cloud > Link isn't even a long shot anymore.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:25:21 PM | message detail
uh he slowed down gg cloud link wins
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Seginustemple | Posted 10/21/2007 9:25:26 PM | message detail
Oh, it's BT. *shudders*

Okay, Zero's upper midcarder material.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:26:23 PM | message detail
yeah lol all you cloud supporters link wins get over it
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creativename | Posted 10/21/2007 9:26:26 PM | message detail
How was Cloud pulling a 48% update during the anti-FF7 Power Hour?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2007 9:27:09 PM | message detail
yeah lol all you cloud supporters link wins get over it

Yuna with 2% IMO
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 9:27:15 PM | message detail
Cloud out of GAME FUEL already?

horrible performance imhotbqh i doubt he makes it to round 5 at this rate
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:27:18 PM | message detail
Zero is high midcarder. Up there with guys like Dante, Yoshi, Luigi, Sora, Master Chief (now). Auron is a step above that pack, and Ganon/Squall/Vincent are a step above Auron.

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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:27:25 PM | message detail
How was Cloud pulling a 48% update during the anti-FF7 Power Hour?


People just played through the part where Cloud fights with you in KH2. It's the only explanation.


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HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2007 9:27:49 PM | message detail
For what it's worth, I think Ryu > Kefka and Auron >> Revolver as far as day-votes go. Cloud may still hit 50%, but this isn't like facing Revolver/Jill/Zolom.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:27:59 PM | message detail
horrible performance imhotbqh i doubt he makes it to round 5 at this rate

Samus > Mega Man > Cloud confirmed?

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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:28:00 PM | message detail
L-block > kratos > other guy > solid ****
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:28:01 PM | message detail
Highest Votals:

01. 157822 - Yoshi vs Knuckles vs Rikku vs Vaan (Round 1)
02. 150678 - Samus vs Mega Man vs Yoshi vs Scorpion (Round 3)
03. 149215 - Auron vs Shadow vs Pyramid Head vs Chris (Round 1)
04. 148199 - Master Chief vs Yuna vs Alucard vs Liquid (Round 2)
05. 146749 - Link vs Bidoof vs Edgeworth vs Agent J (Round 1)
06. 146092 - Cloud vs Marcus vs Ocelot vs Kefka (Round 2)
07. 145234 - Link vs Vincent vs Bidoof vs Zelda (Round 2)
08. 142877 - Vincent vs Zelda vs The Boss vs Tails (Round 1)
09. 142874 - Cloud vs Ocelot vs Jill vs Zolom (Round 1)
10. 140118 - Mega Man vs KOS-MOS vs Diablo vs Arthas (Round 1)

Two Noble Niners = votals. WE still haven't had anything come close to that first day, though.
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transience | Posted 10/21/2007 9:28:16 PM | message detail
Dude, if Cloud put up 55%, the final would be freakin' LOCK.

that's the entire point. Cloud needs to put up something above and beyond what I'd expect to be possible before I consider him to be a serious threat to Link.

Cloud beats him 54-46. Twilight Princess comes out the next year while Cloud gets nothing. there's no sign of some massive Square increase -- if anything, it's the other way around. Link did awesome all five days of the battle royale.

yeah, I'm taking that to be absolute fact until Cloud knocks me out. he's yet to knock me out with a result.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:28:49 PM | message detail
I can't see Cloud getting 50 here. He should hover in the mid-high 40's.

Or at least I hope

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transience | Posted 10/21/2007 9:29:01 PM | message detail
er, Link beats him 54-46, my bad.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:29:20 PM | message detail
03. 149215 - Auron vs Shadow vs Pyramid Head vs Chris (Round 1)

I still can't get over this. What the hell.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 10/21/2007 9:29:32 PM | message detail
People just played through the part where Cloud fights with you in KH2. It's the only explanation.

Yeah I'm sure this is it...
hochiminh155 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:30:03 PM | message detail
and Ganon/Squall/Vincent are a step above Auron.


No. Auron = Squal > Ganondorf



"But but Auron lost to Ganon!"


That's because his match was rigged. Auron and Ryu that year fell to "conditioned voting." Look at Round 1. Bowser vs Chun Li and Ganondorf vs Yuna. Bowser and Ganon won in normal fashion. But when Round 2 rolled around, the voters had been "conditioned" to vote Ganon over FFX and Bowser over Street Fighter. "Conditioned voting" accounts for 7%. So Auron should have won with 52% and Ryu should have gotten 48% on Bowser.
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smitelf | Posted 10/21/2007 9:30:22 PM | message detail
I don't think Cloud will really hit 50%. His day vote would have to be ridiculous. He's gained 5% or more from this point before, but that was against way weaker competition. Surely Ryu/Auron will slow him down a little more than Ocelot/Kefka?
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/21/2007 9:30:24 PM | message detail
Screw those trains

HOW BOUT CRONO > MARIO IN LINK/SEPH/MARIO/CRONO OHHH SNAP
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:30:44 PM | message detail
yep cloud > link is a lock suck it nintendo
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 9:31:00 PM | message detail
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:31:18 PM | message detail
If it wasn't for Yoshi/Samus SFF, we probably would have had the highest votals yesterday. Can't wait to see the votals for the finals. At least I did one thing right by taking a ridiculously high tiebreaker.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/21/2007 9:31:28 PM | message detail
Uh... I don't know but if he's getting 48% updates during the first hour which may be his worst hour... I'd pretty scared for 50+% right now
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transience | Posted 10/21/2007 9:31:33 PM | message detail
actually, 50% looks pretty likely, especially since Ryu is going to bleed like hell come morning. well, it depends on where he stabilizes here.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:31:34 PM | message detail
oh jesus hochi please i want to bear your children
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MadGamer_11 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:31:46 PM | message detail
Zero is high midcarder. Up there with guys like Dante, Yoshi, Luigi, Sora, Master Chief (now). Auron is a step above that pack, and Ganon/Squall/Vincent are a step above Auron.

I think this is a pretty fair ranking but I might take Auron>Ganon now. Also, I think Sora is stronger than the all those high midcarders. Like, where would you put Tifa, Yuna, Kirby and Kratos?
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ZFS | Posted 10/21/2007 9:31:57 PM | message detail
tran defending link again what a fanboy

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creativename | Posted 10/21/2007 9:32:48 PM | message detail
Last round, Cloud finished with 56%, but didn't pull a single update over 56% until 3 hours into the match.

In the first round Cloud got 61% but didn't pull an update over that until *4* hours into the match.

Now I think he's up against more day vote competition in this match than in those, however...if Cloud is already pulling 47%+ updates regularly...god damn.
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transience | Posted 10/21/2007 9:33:00 PM | message detail
hey aitch emm remember when people suggested cloud > link last year and you insulted their manhood
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 9:33:03 PM | message detail
hay tran if you love link so much why dunt you marry him
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/21/2007 9:33:03 PM | message detail
Eh, I don't think Cloud has to completely outdo Link in these rounds to have a good shot. I still say Snake/Sonic hurt Link more than Cloud in the final.
ZFS | Posted 10/21/2007 9:33:53 PM | message detail
tables turned -- im in your stats topic insultin your manhood

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2007 9:33:53 PM | message detail
hey aitch emm remember when people suggested cloud > link last year and you insulted their manhood

the pain

plz stop hyping it, I'll give you monies :(
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:34:31 PM | message detail
Tifa would probably be in with that pack of highcarders. Maybe closer to Auron. Yuna is safely below them. Her 2k5 value seems legit. Kirby would probably be near the lower end of that pack, but close enough to have a good match. Kratos would probably be closer to Leon's level.

Zelda would probably fit in with that grouping of highcarders.

As for Sora, I take his match with Mega Man lightly. He was hot off of KH2, and were this a 1v1 contest, I think he'd be performing a little more reallistically.

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