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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 527

H__RR____H | Posted 10/21/2007 4:16:54 PM | message detail
I'm not sure Ryu's %age goes down. His match with Bowser in 2005 suggests that Bowser might be a weakness of Ryu's. Why? Who the hell knows. Now with two RPG characters in there SFFing each other being his only real competition for votes (if Marcus gets dropped to 15% last round, he's probably going below 10% this round) I'm thinking Ryu's %age actually goes up from last round, despite Cloud being a beast.

I don't think Bowser affected Ryu too much when there's a stronger character than either of them in the poll (Auron) -- that's why I'm not using today's match as an example (Samus). That said, maybe he doesn't drop much, but I think between what I just said and Bowser-to-Cloud being a bigger jump to me than Shadow-to-Fenix, I don't find it likely. If Ryu doesn't drop much, I'll blame it more on Cloud/Auron LFF than anything else...and I'll be shocked if Ryu goes up this round compared to last round.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/21/2007 4:31:06 PM | message detail
I wonder if Cloud can get 50%. Consider this


Cloud: 50%
Marcus: 12%
Ryu: 19%
Auron: 19%
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H__RR____H | Posted 10/21/2007 4:33:02 PM | message detail
If Cloud gets 50% tomorrow, I'll call him the favorite to win this thing.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/21/2007 4:37:12 PM | message detail
Match L: Cloud Strife vs Marcus Fenix vs Auron vs Ryu

Past Matches

Round 2

Cloud Strife - 56.10%
Marcus Fenix - 15.59%
Revolver Ocelot - 15.06%
Kefka Palazzo - 13.24%

Auron - 35.83%
Ryu - 26.16%
Bowser - 24.07%
Shadow the Hedgehog - 13.94%

Analysis

Cloud showed his weak opponents no mercy by getting the second highest percent of the round. Marcus being one of the newest characters in the bracket has made it to round three though for him play time is over. In what was suppose to be a close match Auron destroyed his opponents and looks ready to survive a SFF fest against Cloud this round. Despite the lack of Nintendo in that match Bowser was still unable to beat Ryu letting him slip by for second.

Cloud will take first easily though not as easy as it was for the past two rounds. Cloud has looked impressive so far and really doesn’t have to worry about losing until the showdown with Link and Sephiroth in round five. Unless Cloud destroys Auron with SFF I don’t see him breaking 50% in this match; Link had a hard enough time against Vincent, Bidoof and a massive SFF Zelda and trust me Cloud won’t SFF Auron to the degree Link did to Zelda.

With his performance last round I have to give Auron the favorite at getting second. Cloud will probably affect Auron in some way unless Kingdom Hearts II made him resistant to SFF. We saw Cloud and Auron go at it back in 2k3 and while we know Cloud SFF him we don’t really know by how much since we couldn’t get a non-SFF reading until after his KHII release. The best I can do is use 2k4 Tails which would make Auron beat himself 56/44 keep in mind that Auron beat Ryu last round almost 58/42. With Kingdom Hearts II I think Auron has what it takes to survive this round.

Despite being easily beaten last round Ryu does have a chance to come in second though for that to happen it would require Cloud to SFF Auron by a lot more than previously expected. Ryu was already lucky once with SFF, though he didn’t really need it and if he takes the upset again I may call him the luckiest character of the bracket.

Speaking of being lucky Marcus has been able to make it to round three despite being slightly stronger than Ocelot. Besides Amaterasu Marcus is probably the weakest character left in the bracket with the next weakest character being either Fox or Big Boss. It’s nice that Xbox characters had their turn to shine, but these characters are way out of his league. If he breaks 10% in this match I’m willing to call it a good performance.

Cloud will take first and despite SFF Auron will take second though Ryu will make sure to make things interesting, at least during the beginning of the match. I have Bowser coming in second here though if I had to go with my favorites between the four Ryu would take second. This round has already started on a good note and for almost every match there is a close fight for either first or second.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Cloud > Bowser

charmander6000’s Prediction: Cloud - 46.84%, Auron - 22.12%, Ryu - 20.44%, Marcus Fenix - 10.60%

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Match 49: Mega Man > Samus Points: 181/256
H__RR____H | Posted 10/21/2007 4:51:23 PM | message detail
About to go to rehearsals (**** you, Shakespeare!)...but how do we decide who is the Ultimate Loser in this format?
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/21/2007 4:51:54 PM | message detail
Last Place.

Not that it's all that important or anything. o.O
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/21/2007 4:53:35 PM | message detail
Division 6 probably has the ultimate loser. The top half of the bracket has Link/Cloud and Divisions 5/7/8 have Chief/Snake/Sonic.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/21/2007 4:54:00 PM | message detail
Like this.


Cloud > Link > Snake > Sonic (Final match)
Snake > Sonic > Master Chief > Luigi (Sem-final)
Luigi > MC > Leon > Dante
Leon > Dante > Pika > Ammy
Dante > Ammy > Ada > Balthier
Ada > Balthier > Frank > Jade


UL = Jade Curtis

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H__RR____H | Posted 10/21/2007 4:54:35 PM | message detail
So...Samus > Mega > Yoshi > Scorpion > Frog > Midna > Kratos Aurion > Agent 47, making Agent 47 the UL for this division?
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
Gaddswell | Posted 10/21/2007 4:55:00 PM | message detail
If Dante > Leon happens, going by how hochi did it, ultimate loser would be Serge.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/21/2007 4:55:27 PM | message detail
So... Jade Curtiss? Good stuff.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/21/2007 4:55:40 PM | message detail
I'd say chain last places backwards...for division 1, for example, Scorpion -> Midna -> Agent 47.
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ZFS | Posted 10/21/2007 5:09:44 PM | message detail
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/21/2007 5:10:53 PM | message detail
From ZFS Posted 10/21/2007 8:09:44 PM #413
So anyone still humoring Cloud > Mega Man next round? Samus is winning, yes, but it's not a huge gap and there's always a chance Yoshi's hurting Mega Man more and/or that Mega Man's fanbase is more loyal with stronger characters around.

The odds of that happening are basically zero. Cloud is significantly stronger than Samus normally, and he's already proven to not have lost a step at all in this format. You could stick two other Square characters in the poll and I'd feel very confident in Cloud winning without any struggle. Samus isn't up to that kind of task.


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ZFS | Posted 10/21/2007 5:12:43 PM | message detail
Also, I brought this up at the beginning of the contest...but now that we're seeing Samus have a firm lead on Mega Man with Yoshi in the mix and MP3:C being fresh AS WELL AS Auron having a legit shot to advance another round, is there any room to believe Samus > Cloud next round?

The odds of that happening are basically zero. Cloud is significantly stronger than Samus normally, and he's already proven to not have lost a step at all in this format. You could stick two other Square characters in the poll and I'd feel very confident in Cloud winning without any struggle. Samus isn't up to that kind of task.

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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/21/2007 5:14:00 PM | message detail
oh.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/21/2007 5:44:38 PM | message detail
Some thoughts about Megaman and Crono's day votes: Both MM and Crono had an okay day vote in 2005 and earlier- Megaman held up quite well against Sonic during the day, and Vincent actually peaked in percentage against Crono at around 8 AM. In 2006, both of their day votes suddenly tanked as Megaman lost large amounts of percentage to Axel and Sora, and couldn't convincingly win the day vote against Ryu or Snake. Crono of course lost the day vote by a large margin every match. Further, Crono and MM share the same pattern of doing well in the first 3 hours and collapsing thereafter. They do well in the early night, but get worse as we get later into the night, opposite to the trend of most night characters.

Major fanbase overlap between Crono and Megaman? Looking at their year-to-year strength.....

2002: Crono and Megaman both did very well- Crono nearly beat a Mario who beat Cloud- yes, there was Mario Sunshine, but that would have helped Mario against Crono too- the match was only 4 days later. And Megaman? He lost to Sephiroth by under 1000 votes.

2003: Mediocre performances for both: Megaman comfortably beat Snake but gets demolished by Sephiroth, while Crono gets cheated out of a close win against a Mario who.....also got demolished by Sephiroth.

2004: Great year for both: Crono beats Mario with 53%, and Megaman scores 57% on Snake.

2005: Mediocre performances for both: Mario reversed the percentages on Crono and Megaman barely beat Sonic.

2006: Megaman got beaten badly by Snake, and Crono lost to a Sonic who also beaten badly by Snake.
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Character Battle VI -- Points: 179/256 -- T-474 (42 way)
Bracket: Samus > Megaman -- Vote: Megaman
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2007 5:53:23 PM | message detail
Fanbase overlap between Crono and Mega Man?

Zero > Crono rSFF confirmed

Vincent, you are going DOWN

TuRtLe
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205/256 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Mega Man
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2007 5:54:29 PM | message detail
And to disprove your theory, 2004 Snake is the one that almost lost to Frog, and 2004 Mega Man is the one that barely got 35% on Link

TuRtLe
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205/256 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Mega Man
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 6:17:11 PM | message detail
Division 2: Round 3 - Match 50 – Cloud Strife vs. Marcus Fenix vs. Auron vs. Ryu

Moltar’s Analysis

Cloud
Round 1 – 61.24% vs. Ocelot, Jill and Zolom
Round 2 – 56.10% vs. Marcus, Ocelot and Kefka

More Cloud domination like always and forever.

Marcus
Round 1 – 36.79% vs. Kefka, Tom Nook and Zelos
Round 2 – 15.59% vs. Cloud, Ocelot and Kefka

Fenix overcomes the odds and beats out Ocelot for second.

Auron
Round 1 – 43.26% vs. Shadow, Pyramid Head, Chris
Round 2 – 35.83% vs. Ryu, Bowser and Shadow

Daaaaaaaaaayum Auron.

Ryu
Round 1 – 36.30% vs. Bowser, Mewtwo and Toad
Round 2 – 26.16% vs. Auron, Bowser and Shadow

So….that 59-41 loss never happened, right?

Another group for Cloud to lay the smackdown on. So far, his competition has been chump after chump. Now he’s going Auron and Ryu here, so his 50% days are over. Still, Cloud shouldn’t really disappoint unless he dips under 40%.

Marcus Fenix, the dark horse of Division 2. Kefka, Ocelot, Jill (indirectly), all fell to their ends thanks to the Gears star. Still, he’s pretty lucky. He isn’t much stronger than Kefka, and only got by Ocelot thanks to Cloud being in the poll. His luck-streak abruptly ends here though, and he’ll be lucky to hit 15% again with these powerhouses.

The real debate in this match springs from Auron and Ryu. Both have impressed so far. Auron has put up scary numbers in both rounds against decent competition. Meanwhile, Ryu beat out the favorite Bowser twice to make it to Round 3. Now, if this weren’t a special case, I’d say Auron > Ryu and call it a day.

However, this is a special case! Auron’s got some company in the poll that goes by the name of Cloud. We’ve seen Cloud/Auron before, and while Auron didn’t get SFFed that hard, every little bit will hurt in a situation like this.

I’m guessing Auron’s hot run ends here thanks to Cloud. Ryu hasn’t looked bad at all, and if he is able to hold up here, he can say hello to Round 4. However, Auron can’t be counted out at all. Even if he does get SFFed, Auron can still make it through with the way he’s been looking so far. I’m predicting he doesn’t though, and it wouldn’t be the first time a strong performer has crumbled thanks to stronger competition being around.

bubububut MATCH PIC be damned

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Cloud > Ryu

Moltar’s Prediction is: Cloud: 45% - Ryu: 23% - Auron: 22% - Marcus: 10%



Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

Marcus Fenix is like Scorpion from last match; nice run, but it's over now that the big guns are here.

Cloud vs Auron vs Ryu is an interesting scenario, because of this poll from the 2003 contest: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1341

Or for a more recent example: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1771

If this repeats itself, Ryu might advance *really* easily. All he does is break 40% on Noble Nine members. I actually think Ryu will advance here, because we've seen FF7 murder a wide range of things SFF-wise. Auron has grown stronger since 2003, but I don't know if he's strong enough to avoid the SFF hammer.

Ulti's Prediction:
Cloud [46.00%]
Ryu [24.00%]
Auron [22.00%]
Fenix [8.00%]



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

For the past couple of rounds, Cloud has been the most impressive, or at least one of the most impressive, noble niners. He’s gone up against some decent competition twice now, and this is a great chance to see if he’s got the stuff necessary to give Link a real fight in the finals.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 6:17:57 PM | message detail
I have no idea what the expectations are for people in this match, but I think if Cloud can get over 50%+, he stands a legitimate shot at taking out Link, regardless of who is in the finals with them. Considering he’s up against another very strong Square character here – and he won’t be come finals – and a character with a very dedicated fighting fanbase, going above 50%+ would be pretty ridiculous. That, to me, would say that he’s certainly looking to have reached Link-esque levels.

Cloud aside, the fight for second here should be pretty good, if only because Auron is going to lose a chunk of his voters to Cloud. Given that he absolutely smashed Ryu last round, nearly beating him by 10%, I think he has enough room to get SFFed and cleanly come out ahead. If we’re talking about dedicated fanbases, Auron’s is probably top of the line, which makes me think he isn’t going to get hit with SFF that hard, at least nowhere near enough for Ryu to be all that competitive.

Still, it’s hard to deny that SFF – LFF – has been a key factor in causing the stronger character to lose. If Cloud hits Auron harder than expected, Ryu’s probably not going to have a whole lot of trouble taking second, despite being much weaker. Fighting game characters have proven to be the real deal in this format, although the competition they were faced against has been pretty questionable. Looking at it, the fighting crew in the past few matches has been pretty disappointing. Ryu could keep that going here.

But yeah, I expect Cloud to dominate this match, start to get people to seriously talking about the Cloud upset, and then Auron to handily take second place. The only downside to this whole thing is that I had Cloud > Auron in my bracket for the longest time, but ended up switching it!

Cloud – 51%
Auron – 22%
Ryu – 17%
Marcus Fenix – 10%


Bracket: Cloud > Bowser
Vote: Cloud



Yoblazer’s Analysis

In my humble opinion, this is the first of two relatively uninteresting matches we have to sit through before we get to the two gems of the round. While it might turn out pretty good in and of itself, this is a match with very little future bracket implications, and nearly all the points that could have been lost already are, seeing as how Bowser (grand ****-up that he is) got his fat ass booted last round. Huh... why do the next 48 hours seem so painfully long?

Anyway, let's get on with it. Doing battle today are contest behemoth and second placer 4life, Cloud Strife, FFX strongman and site-wide badass, Auron, fighting game strongman and site-wide badass to a slightly lesser degree, Ryu, and holy-Jesus-are-you-ever-going-to-look-pathetic guy, Marcus Fenix.It goes without saying that Cloud is 100% guaranteed to earn an easy first place victory here. In addition to that, I have this funny feeling that he's going to impress us (and look like a somewhat legitimate threat to Link) for the third time in a row. In fact, I have this feeling that he'll continually impress until the final match, picking up more and more people on the ill-fated Cloud > Link express, only for Link to waste him in the contest's final day. Again. God, that's gonna be sweet.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 6:18:32 PM | message detail
Cloud domination aside, the real point of interest is the battle between Auron and Ryu for second place, and whether or not Cloud can hurt Auron enough for Ryu to make up the quite large gap that we all know exists between them. Personally, it's very difficult for me to even picture it. Yes, Cloud is here and he'll bring the hurt. Yes, Auron will be undervalued by virtue of SFF. No, I don't think it will be enough to negate the nearly 10% edge Auron had on Ryu in Round 2. Simply put, Auron has looked tremendous this year. He's unquestionably the most popular Final Fantasy character of this millennium, and it has shown during this contest. Hell, he nearly matched Crono's percentage against much more hardened competition. Let's see... Zero/Raiden/HK-47 or Ryu/Bowser/Shadow. Real head scratcher, that one. >_>

Ryu may have the SFF advantage, but it's all for naught this year. Compared to what we saw in 2004, I think Auron will do a better job resisting Cloud's rage. That, coupled with a pretty significant picture advantage (Auron stands out not as a sore thumb, but as a beacon of badass), and he becomes the awesome underdog who moves on to the Sweet 16 despite SFF from the #2 force on GameFAQs.

Oh, and Marcus Fenix, prepare to meet your humiliating doom. Marcus is facing Cloud for the second time, and as if last round wasn't bad enough, he's now cursed with a worse picture and is completely out-badassed by both his other competitors. He's going to look like garbage. THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR BEATING OUT OCELOT, YOU BASTARD.

Cloud Strife - 46%
Auron - 23%
Ryu - 21%
Marcus Fenix - 10%



Lopen’s Analysis

Auron: Hey Cloud can I borrow an airplane wing?
Cloud: Sure, let's mos--
Ryu: Shoryuken! *uppercuts Auron in the back of the head*
Ken: Dude that totally isn't how the bit goes... *facepalms*
Marcus Fenix: Why does Ken get a line before I do? I'm in the match too, damn it!

Sure you are, Marcus... sure you are. Anyway... Mr. Classic Look™ is making a living out of being an opportunist in this contest. In round 1 he fights a Bowser with Toad and Mewtwo holding his arms, and now in round 3 he's gonna go Shoryuken Auron while he's in the middle of an engaging conversation with Cloud.

Will it work, though? I've got Ryu in my bracket... I came in thinking he could capitalize on his fighting spirit which prevents him from getting blown out, and of course the Cloud/Auron SFF here. But... now I'm not as confident as I'd like to be. Auron did put a sizable little beating on Ryu last round... a bit bigger one than I expected. And now we've got this totally horrible match pic to boost. Not only does Ryu look like crap (man, damn SF1 for existing... screws Ryu out of his sprite potential way too often) but Auron just looks awesome. That may be the best Auron match pic ever.

But... I still can't deny the fighting spirit I picked Ryu to win because of. How low can he really be pushed in this match? He seems the type of character to look better as his opponents get stronger, having a loyal fanbase. Not to the extent of Master Chief or Gordon Freeman, but moreso than Auron. Especially here with Cloud being the driving force of weakening. And we've also seen that Bowser does some weird stuff to Ryu... I'm thinking Ryu gains a lot from Bowser being gone from the poll. Much more than Auron.

Oh, and I guess there's the recent SF4 announcement to refresh him in the minds of the people, for whatever that's worth... probably not much, but it might help a little bit. I'd feel a lot better if the pic was less imbalanced, but Ryu should have this.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 6:19:30 PM | message detail
Man what is this... two days in a row with an analysis that doesn't involve me talking about or how the phase of the moon will influence voting or some other nonsense?

Lopen's prediction:
Cloud - 37.77%
Ryu - 27.59%
Auron - 25.46%
Lolol Fenix Down won't save you from this beating - 8.18%


Karma Hunter’s Analysis

Looks like we're shaping up to have an interesting stretch of matches. Saddle up!

Cloud Strife

Cloud continues to look... impressive? Uh um... it won't last, it ends here, stop hyping it

Marcus Fenix

Pulls out a relatively close win against Ocelot in a match that basically foretells his doom here. Good job, fanbase independence and all that... now let's see how he holds up against real competition.

Auron

Dominates as much as one could have hoped for in this format, after a near 10% victory margin last round Auron now meets Cloud again on the field of battle to see exactly how much SFF he can resist - and if his natural advantage over Ryu can hold out.

Ryu

Carrying the flag for the overachieving fighting fanbase in this contest, Ryu is primed to go one further again with an upset, and he looks pretty darn good for doing it.

So, let's break it down.

Fenix is out. He had good comebacks over Kefka and Ocelot, but these are the big leagues now. Barring literal insanity with the format, he should come in last and will be scraping for every last Xbox loyalist vote he can get.

Cloud comes in first. Auron will be sapping him of course, and he's got VERY strong relative competition. Again, barring literal insanity, he shouldn't break 50% here (and if he did, it'll be akin to the time he faced SNOIC), and 45% is probably his limit. Not that I won't predict him there !!

The true match, of course, is between Auron and Ryu. Auron is clearly stronger, but he has a LOT of SFF to deal with. On the other hand of course, Ryu is a LOT weaker than Auron going by the format. It's very debated, and throwing another monkey wrench into the whole fiasco is a picture advantage on Auron's part - perhaps the first new-gen character to get an advantage in the heralded 'sprite round', he's going SSJ FMV-style on the match while everyone else is stuck with meh polygons or their oldest and least recognizable sprite.

It gets worse when you realize that Ryu got that same sprite against SNAKE in the sprite round, and holds the dubious honor of being the one competitor not to overperform on him there (seemingly).

However... like with last match, I don't think the picture matters enough, big as the disparity is. SFF has weakened fanbases HARD in this contest, and Cloud covers all the bases for obliterating Auron, from FF to KH. Auron could work some magic here and hold up well, but I'm gonna side with Ryu, the recent warts of Sub-Zero/Scorpion and all.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Auron wait wait WHY DO I DO THIS TO MYSELF
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Cloud Strife with 45%, Ryu with 23%, Auron with 22%, Marcus Fenix with 10%

ohhhhh boyyyyyy

Upset Probability: 45%

Of course, that picture could simply dominate for Auron or KH2 could have given him the independence he needs to hold up strong. Maybe he just holds up well in this format even with sapping. This could really go either way.



Transience’s Analysis

I'm not sure what to say about this match. Ryu's been impressing this whole contest and we get to see him go at it again. like Pikachu, he's had a fairly lucky bracket -- he gets Bowser nerfed by three guys (though it turns out he didn't need it), and now he gets a nerfed Auron. how much is Cloud going to nerf Auron? that's the big question for this match.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 6:20:30 PM | message detail
in 2003, Cloud beat Auron 72/28.. in comparison, he beat Bowser 70/30, so he didn't SFF him *that* badly. Auron is four years and a generation away from Cloud, though he now shares the Kingdom Hearts games with Cloud. meanwhile, Kefka did fairly admirably against Cloud last round, doing equally as well against Marcus despite Cloud being in the poll. Auron definitely has a core audience like Kefka does -- will it be enough?

I think this match will be close, though not very interesting. Ryu's core guys should keep him at about 20%, and Auron's probably around there too. Marcus probably gets killed here -- not only is he up against real competition, but that picture does him no favours whatsoever. he might be independent, but he won't come close to two big guns in the poll. this isn't Kefka or Ocelot he's dealing with here.

Cloud hurts Auron. can
he get enough votes to beat
Ryu? I think yes.

transience's prediction: Cloud with 45.27%, Auron with 22.55%, Ryu with 22.07%, Marcus Fenix with 10.11%



Guest’s Analysis - Biolizard

This match was much easier in my head. Cloud dominates and ruins Auron in the process while Bowser destroys Ocelot. But thanks to the Can-Do attitudes of Ryu and Marcus, this match has become a crapshoot. I don't know about the rest of the crew, but this'll be a tough call.

Cloud
Stealing KH's format aww yeah. Cloud should have absolutely no trouble breaking 50%. That's literally ALL that matters.

Marcus
I hate watch Marcus work. He makes THE most boring comebacks of all time. But still, he's proven he can someday make for a good contestant, but right now, he's just Master Chief Jr., and that itself is a stretch.

Auron
With Cloud in the poll, we're sure to see Auron struggle for a good while. We've seen how he's performed under the pressures of SFF in the face of Cloud. Not to pretty. But I'm pretty sure that since KHII came out, Auron and Cloud have never met on the field before. Auron may be a tad stronger since then, and that may be all he needs.

Ryu
Ryu's made a decent splash in the contest so far. While Ryu >Bowser was pretty much expected, very few thought his strength would transfer into round 2. Call Shadow SFF all you want, but the fact of the matter is Ryu out right beat Bowser in a match many thought he would lose. That's good enough for me.

We've already dissected the fact Cloud is moving on, but who's he taking with him. Most people immediately count Auron out thanks to SFFEAR, but Auron does pretty well, even under pressure. Compared to most other characters, at least. In my opinion, Marcus is the most likely candidate for fourth. His slow and steady comebacks simply aren't enough against opponents like this. He can probably squeak into third, but that's as far as he goes. Then we have Ryu. Like I said before, he's established that he's a lot stronger than most people were giving him credit for. Granted, it may just be all luck, and the SFF is, actually, to blame. But I'm not ready to count him out yet.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 6:21:09 PM | message detail
See what I mean? You can't read these three. Auron hasn't had a match with Cloud since, what, 2003? Ryu has supposedly been riding on the SFF mobile. And to top it off, Marcus only managed to squeak by two weak opponents, but is hailed as Master Chief Jr. (Again, a stretch)

Who am I giving the win to? I'm tempted to say Auron, but I doubt KHII made that much of a difference. So Ryu once again rides the SFF mobile to victory.

Now for some haiku
Cloud and Ryu ride on, yo
Don't hate me, tranny

Bio's Bracket Says: Cloud > Bowser. Stupid Koopa.
Bio's Prediction:
Cloud - 51%
Marcus - 14%
Ryu- 19%
Auron - 16%
Bio's Vote: HADOUKEN




Crew Consensus: 4 for Cloud > Ryu and 4 for Cloud > Auron...what do I do?
Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 6:22:23 PM | message detail
o wate i mess up

5 for Cloud > Ryu!
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Mega Man/Yoshi/Samus/Scorrpion - Bracket: Samus > Mega Man - Vote: Yoshi (215/256)
Iubaris | Posted 10/21/2007 6:42:45 PM | message detail
augh bio, haikus are 5-7-5!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2007 6:45:31 PM | message detail
That is 5-7-5.
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paraboxx | Posted 10/21/2007 6:50:25 PM | message detail
Apparently the "miracle" Samus needed was the morning vote. Bah.

Still looking forward to tonight's match, where the question is whether the SF4 boost will make a clear difference for Ryu. (Before you answer, the answer is no.)
Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 7:18:57 PM | message detail
I actually added the "yo" because it was 5-6-5

>_>
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Cloud/Marcus/Auron/Ryu - Bracket: Cloud > Ryu - Vote: Auron (231/272)
TheCruelAngel | Posted 10/21/2007 8:27:14 PM | message detail
Assuming Sonic makes it to the finals, I think Cloud's the favourite to win the whole thing barring a < 45% performance here.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2007 8:27:42 PM | message detail
I think you're crazy.
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 10/21/2007 8:28:49 PM | message detail
I hope I'm being crazy here. ^_^
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2007 8:29:34 PM | message detail
Either that or you're hochi !!
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TheCruelAngel | Posted 10/21/2007 8:30:16 PM | message detail
!

plot twist right there
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ZFS | Posted 10/21/2007 8:30:32 PM | message detail
He'd need to be near 50% people to start seriously considering him over Link, I think.


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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/21/2007 8:31:20 PM | message detail
Cloud's gonna struggle to break 40.

Book it!
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/21/2007 8:31:51 PM | message detail
I will laugh so hard if Cloud fails to break 40% here.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/21/2007 8:33:13 PM | message detail
Cloud's competition here is pretty tight, plus there's the possibility that a shared fanbase with Auron will hurt both their percentages. If he breaks 45% here I wouldn't mind calling his chances equal to Link. If he breaks it significantly, I'd even call him the favorite.
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MadGamer_11 | Posted 10/21/2007 8:51:01 PM | message detail
Auron will rSFF Cloud to get to 30.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/21/2007 8:52:25 PM | message detail
cloud won't break 40% think of the lff

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 8:55:38 PM | message detail
Cloud won't break 40% because Ryu is going to first!
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Cloud/Marcus/Auron/Ryu - Bracket: Cloud > Ryu - Vote: Auron (231/272)
smitelf | Posted 10/21/2007 8:57:54 PM | message detail
If Cloud comes in under 43%, I say he's below expectations. Anything over 46% and he's impressive, IMO.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2007 8:59:25 PM | message detail
I need to see Cloud break 50+% before I think he beats Link. We've seen Link dominate Cloud five times in a row last year to various degrees with varying circumstances. When It was Link/Cloud/Solid last year, Link still beat Cloud by 9%...Sonic's not going to hurt Link that much. We've seen Link beat Cloud head-to-head the past three times they faced off one-on-one. Though Zelda/Ganon/Midna haven't really turned heads this year, LoZ:TP still came out since last year...

...Cloud's going to have to **** up everybody in today's poll and have Auron come in second for me to feel like he's going to beat Link after all this time. I have no reason to doubt Link until we see something not just solid or great, but OUTSTANDING from Cloud.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2007 9:00:10 PM | message detail
Round 3- Division 2 Finals

Previous Matches:

Round 1

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2865
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2866

Round 2

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2895
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2896

Characters Involved:

Cloud


Cloud dominates yet again. Yawn

Marcus Fenix

Fenix did good for himself in his contest debut by beating out 2 decent midcarders in Kefka and Ocelot. Shame this is where his contest ends.

Auron

Auron looked mighty impressive last round. Can he resist Cloud enough to get by Ryu?

Ryu

Damn it it was supposed to be Bowser here >_<

Predictions:

We have a good match on our hands. Auron would thrash Ryu normally, but he has Cloud in the poll to deal with. Ryu has some ground to cover, but it surely isn't impossible. I have to go with Auron on this one though. It just seems as though Ryu will look good for a few hours, then completely collapse in the morning as usual.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Cloud 44%, Ryu 21%, Auron 24%, Marcus 11%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Cloud > Bowser (d'oh)
TuRtLe's Vote: Ryu

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2007 9:00:13 PM | message detail
ud Strife 37.5%

3
Marcus Fenix 0%

0
Auron 37.5%

3
Ryu 25%

2
TOTAL VOTES 8
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Cloud/Marcus/Auron/Ryu - Bracket: Cloud > Ryu - Vote: Auron (231/272)
Janus5000 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:00:24 PM | message detail
Cloud Strife 35.14%

13
Marcus Fenix 5.41%

2
Auron 24.32%

9
Ryu 35.14%

13
TOTAL VOTES 37

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Xcarvengerx | Posted 10/21/2007 9:00:25 PM | message detail
Cloud Strife 40%

2
Marcus Fenix 0%

0
Auron 20%

1
Ryu 40%

2
TOTAL VOTES 5
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SHINE GET 64 | Posted 10/21/2007 9:00:25 PM | message detail
Cloud Strife 25%

3
Marcus Fenix 0%

0
Auron 33.33%

4
Ryu 41.67%

5
TOTAL VOTES 12

voted for Ryu
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/21/2007 9:00:36 PM | message detail
next match plz.
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