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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 527

creativename | Posted 10/20/2007 9:56:15 PM | message detail
Yeah, Samus should do better relative to Mega Man next round.

I figured Mega Man would easily trounce her if the picture was gonna screw her.

Eh, it's still a suit pic, not ZSS. It wasn't likely to make a huge difference, but I think Samus was only expected to win by about 3-4 points anyway, going by pre-picture Oracle predictions. A bad pic could switch that margin when dealing with a powerful foe like Mega Man.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/20/2007 9:56:23 PM | message detail
ok Mega Man, you can stall Samus... IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT

that's... when you're supposed to build your lead
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 10/20/2007 9:56:47 PM | message detail
I predict that this match will get high vote totals..like most of MMs matches, do to his insane number of vote stuffers. It was obvious they vote stuff so much in his match with snake last year, and sonic 2k5.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/20/2007 9:56:53 PM | message detail
Samus with a Prime picture and a 1 v 1 battle would probably beat Mega Man 56-44 or so. Maybe more if MP3 gave her any kind of boost.

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transience | Posted 10/20/2007 9:56:54 PM | message detail
It's a great opportunity to observe the pic factor, too. Interesting insights into matches to come...

not really.. not with Yoshi being gone. it's pretty much impossible to tell what's what there.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/20/2007 9:58:31 PM | message detail
Woo Samus, make the MM fans cry them bitter tears.

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ZFS | Posted 10/20/2007 9:58:43 PM | message detail
I don't think you can say anything definitive about what's causing this to happen. If this were under normal circumstances, it would be good to see what a picture can do, but with Yoshi in the poll, there's no telling how much of a problem each is causing Samus.

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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/20/2007 9:59:12 PM | message detail
I predict that this match will get high vote totals..like most of MMs matches, do to his insane number of vote stuffers. It was obvious they vote stuff so much in his match with snake last year, and sonic 2k5.

But of course no one ever vote stuffed for Sonic, because he's in your username. Real clever.
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Oracle Prediction: ~ SMAUS ARNA 34.05% - Blue Bomber 30.28% - Boshi 19.05% - Skorupi 16.62% ~ Status: ?
creativename | Posted 10/20/2007 9:59:31 PM | message detail
The kookiness of this "Yoshi hurts Samus more" theory frightens and confuses me.

...I guess we can't know for sure, but it really seems like reaching.
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 10/20/2007 10:00:28 PM | message detail
Oh my god YES!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/20/2007 10:00:36 PM | message detail
what the balls was that
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FFDragon | Posted 10/20/2007 10:00:39 PM | message detail
*grabs lawn chair and nachos*

This is gonna be fun for a while.
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transience | Posted 10/20/2007 10:00:43 PM | message detail
weird match is weird
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/20/2007 10:00:52 PM | message detail
I had an actual double-take. Guess why!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/20/2007 10:00:56 PM | message detail
...

Did MM just use the Metal Blades?
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ZFS | Posted 10/20/2007 10:00:56 PM | message detail
mega man hax

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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/20/2007 10:00:57 PM | message detail
what what what
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Oracle Prediction: ~ SMAUS ARNA 34.05% - Blue Bomber 30.28% - Boshi 19.05% - Skorupi 16.62% ~ Status: ?
Lopen | Posted 10/20/2007 10:01:00 PM | message detail
Well, I was thinking a 32-30 match in favor of Mega Man without a bad pic or Yoshi, something like 34-27 with the pic and Yoshi. I know I was very alone here, but I totally buy into Mega Man is the King of SFF theory that KH is claimin his.

And I'm still not convinced this isn't the case. Yoshi could certainly be hurting Samus and MM equally, MM is totally Nintendo. People expecting Samus to be a lock next round are in for a surprise methinks.
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Keno316 | Posted 10/20/2007 10:01:03 PM | message detail
And Samus goes kaplunk!
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FFDragon | Posted 10/20/2007 10:01:11 PM | message detail
PS: SCORPION CUT
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/20/2007 10:01:20 PM | message detail
The kookiness of this "Yoshi hurts Samus more" theory frightens and confuses me.

...I guess we can't know for sure, but it really seems like reaching.


Why's that? Even though it's more or less agreed that Mega Man is an unofficial Nintendo character, it doesn't seem illogical to assume that he's a bit more independent than the true-blue Nintendo guys. Sure, Mega Man and Yoshi shared a console back in the day, but Samus and Yoshi share games.
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creativename | Posted 10/20/2007 10:01:22 PM | message detail
Alternating Monster updates every half hour eh?
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Seginustemple | Posted 10/20/2007 10:01:40 PM | message detail
What.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/20/2007 10:01:44 PM | message detail
DC Prediction - Mega Man destroys Samus with the day vote.

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paraboxx | Posted 10/20/2007 10:01:52 PM | message detail
I understand what you're saying, but the Nova Beam *was* the Plasma Beam, as far as appearances go. It's merely a palette swap from orange-red to neon-green, much like the Annihilator was IIRC.

Are you serious? They recycled the beams again? Ugh. That crap was bad enough the first time they did it.

Any desire I might've had to play that game is officially gone. (Which is good, since I don't have the cash for a Wii yet anyway.)
Master Moltar | Posted 10/20/2007 10:02:00 PM | message detail
nah nah samus was just like "Oh mega man-sama poo huney dear, you look so sad you're not in the lead. here, i'll let you have it one more time k smoochikins hugglebear?"
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/20/2007 10:02:01 PM | message detail
If that update doesn't scare you guys, your all insane.
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Lopen | Posted 10/20/2007 10:02:03 PM | message detail
Hahaha... yes! Mega Man defeated Samus and GOT EQUIPPED WITH HAX BEAM.
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FFDragon | Posted 10/20/2007 10:02:27 PM | message detail
God dammit someone else acknowledge the Scorpion cut.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 10/20/2007 10:02:39 PM | message detail
Did I ever say they dont, or for any other character? No, just that MM matches tend to be very high in vote totals, even when other matches average much lower #s in same rounds. I don't think that thousands of people come only on MMs days. Square matches tend to be the same..and link ones.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/20/2007 10:02:48 PM | message detail
Megaman had to prove he technically has a better first hour than Samus so he shot up ahead just in time
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/20/2007 10:03:01 PM | message detail
SCORPION CUT!!1!!@
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swirIdude | Posted 10/20/2007 10:03:30 PM | message detail
Silly blue child, you cannot give BT any hope for Zero advancing.
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Lopen | Posted 10/20/2007 10:04:04 PM | message detail
Man I'm all about the Scorpion cut!

I wanted him to scare Samus here... still think he can take Yoshi.
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Kaxon | Posted 10/20/2007 10:04:46 PM | message detail
What do you mean, "no"? This match was a foregone conclusion, and now it is the most interesting battle of the round!

This match was never a foregone conclusion. Samus's history with SFF and as a "favorite character" was too poor for that. She obviously had a big advantage, but it wasn't a lock.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/20/2007 10:04:53 PM | message detail
Yoshi's percentage of MM/Yoshi votes: 34.06%
Yoshi's percentage of MM/Yoshi votes at 1 AM last round: 41.30%
Yoshi's percentage in MM/Yoshi 2005: 31.92%
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/20/2007 10:04:53 PM | message detail
So is this the first hour of bracket voters dying off or what?
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Seginustemple | Posted 10/20/2007 10:05:01 PM | message detail
Lopen, you thought Scorpion would take Samus? 0_o
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/20/2007 10:05:41 PM | message detail
If MM is going to take this, he has to make his move and strong overnight. No way does he take the day with Yoshi and Samus here.
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swirIdude | Posted 10/20/2007 10:05:41 PM | message detail
Well he IS Lopen, after all. Always expect the unexpected.
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Keno316 | Posted 10/20/2007 10:05:42 PM | message detail
Jesus...Samus is all over the freaking place!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/20/2007 10:05:47 PM | message detail
Lame update is lame
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/20/2007 10:06:34 PM | message detail
Silly blue child, you cannot give BT any hope for Zero advancing.

Hey, if Yoshi can hurt Samus enough for Mega Man to have a shot, Vincent and Crono will split more evenly. I consider Zero a lock at this point.

aww yeah

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Lopen | Posted 10/20/2007 10:07:07 PM | message detail
Scare, not take! I figured Mega Man's lead on Samus would be higher than Samus on Scorp. This was all after the pic and Yoshi here, of course. Normally I wouldn't have given Scorpion a chance to even frighten her.
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creativename | Posted 10/20/2007 10:07:10 PM | message detail
Why's that? Even though it's more or less agreed that Mega Man is an unofficial Nintendo character, it doesn't seem illogical to assume that he's a bit more independent than the true-blue Nintendo guys. Sure, Mega Man and Yoshi shared a console back in the day, but Samus and Yoshi share games.

Do you really think Samus SFFs Yoshi as bad as Mega Man 1-on-1? I think Yoshi would hold up better against her.

Unless you think Mega Man SFFs Yoshi, and Samus doesn't, thus Yoshi hurts her more. Because the Samus is more Nintendo doesn't seem right - I can't see her SFFing Yoshi that bad.


Megaman had to prove he technically has a better first hour than Samus so he shot up ahead just in time

Heh :)


This match was never a foregone conclusion. Samus's history with SFF and as a "favorite character" was too poor for that. She obviously had a big advantage, but it wasn't a lock.

It certainly was never a lock. But it was an easy choice - then with the picture, it wasn't really an easy choice anymore.
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swirIdude | Posted 10/20/2007 10:07:29 PM | message detail
Aww yeah you just tried to connect two completely different scenarios like you know how they'll go down!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/20/2007 10:07:53 PM | message detail
BT, you cannot tell me that Zero has good luck going into a Sprite round with Crono. While Zero has pretty badass sprites of his own...Crono will always win there.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/20/2007 10:09:08 PM | message detail
I'm curious: what's the biggest successful upset that was due to/could be blamed on the pic factor?
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/20/2007 10:09:19 PM | message detail
If MM is going to take this, he has to make his move and strong overnight. No way does he take the day with Yoshi and Samus here.

I disagree, I got my money on MM taking the day vote. OH SHAP WUT!

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/20/2007 10:09:42 PM | message detail
What started the whole CT = godly sprite round thing? Magus overperforming on LoZ Link? Frog overperforming on Solid ****? Crono beating Mario in the lowest votal match they had?

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