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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 525

transience | Posted 10/18/2007 3:13:06 PM | message detail
nah, 5 is less than 4. 5 is good in its own way, but also frustrating.

BT's opinion there is a disaster
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/18/2007 3:13:28 PM | message detail
Contra guys? Seriously? And I doubt Protoman'd be that strong... more Vincent-ish.

Replace them with Fighter and Simon Belmont. Then you're good.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/18/2007 3:14:17 PM | message detail
Here are the REAL rankings!
1-4 > 1-5 > 2-4 > 1-3 > 2-2 > 1-2 > 2-1 > 2-3 > 1-1. Though they might change at any time...

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2007 3:15:28 PM | message detail
Fighter would flop, and I doubt Simon would be that high.

Maybe put Bowser or Peach in Contra guys position.

And Protoman would be damn strong. He's basically Zero, but with most of the guys ahead of Zero not existing back then.

TuRtLe
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transience | Posted 10/18/2007 3:17:25 PM | message detail
I love how you can mention Phoenix Wright in any topic on this board and an absolute sea of inequalities comes forward. HM used to be like "haha what the hell language are you guys speaking" and now he's part of them.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2007 3:17:51 PM | message detail
I didn't care for case 2-4 because:

- it was a really stupid, obvious case. There was no "A-ha!" moment
- it just draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagged on. They could have seriously cut 20 minutes off of that case
- Edgeworth wasn't his usual self.
- Side characters sucked ass compared to 2-3
- There was no funny part
- Oldbag

TuRtLe
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paraboxx | Posted 10/18/2007 3:18:58 PM | message detail
For some reason I see Garland doing better than Fighter or Black Mage.

Probably just because he has an actual name, though.

BT's opinion ... is a disaster

This is funny and sad.
Lady Ashe | Posted 10/18/2007 3:22:45 PM | message detail
hey bt get the god damn spoilers out of this god damn topic.
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ZFS | Posted 10/18/2007 3:22:49 PM | message detail
You crazy Phoenix Wright fanboys!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2007 3:23:35 PM | message detail
Ryu needs to stop this gaining/stalling business
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The_Ocelot2 | Posted 10/18/2007 3:23:44 PM | message detail
epic stalz
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2007 3:24:45 PM | message detail
So, the combined forces of the X-Box and KH day votes are finally bringing Snake back down to earth. Could he finish under 47% at this rate?

TuRtLe
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/18/2007 3:24:57 PM | message detail
From KamikazePotato Posted 10/18/2007 6:23:35 PM #160
Ryu needs to stop this gaining/stalling business

wait what my bracket isn't dead yet?
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The_Ocelot2 | Posted 10/18/2007 3:28:26 PM | message detail
Ryu gain

aww yeah
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MasterOfHunters | Posted 10/18/2007 3:28:35 PM | message detail
If we are talking about the NES era characters, Cody would have mopped the floor with anyone but characters from Mario, Zelda, or Mega Man games.
chaosarcher07 | Posted 10/18/2007 3:30:30 PM | message detail
"Side characters sucked ass compared to 2-3"

...what?
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/18/2007 3:31:50 PM | message detail
I don't really care about 2-3 over 2-4 because I think 2-4's kind of overrated. But 1-3 over 1-4 AND 1-5? Seriously wth?
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/18/2007 3:32:20 PM | message detail
hay guys so what i miss?

nothin much, ok coo
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2007 3:53:12 PM | message detail
So far, I'm saying 1-2 > 1-3 > 1-1. I've not touched anything else yet, and can't wait to...but must for probably another day or two at least, barring some awesome spare time.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2007 4:11:03 PM | message detail
Nice Riku spike.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 10/18/2007 4:19:08 PM | message detail
RIKU IS LOOKING OUT FOR BOARD 8 BRACKETS
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/18/2007 4:20:23 PM | message detail
The majority pick tomorrow is Squall > Sora, eh? Well, I need Squall > Aeris. I guess Squall > Lara would be fine too since nobody has that
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/18/2007 4:23:12 PM | message detail
...Damnit. I should have realized that they would have just finished their second playthrough. Which explains Riku surviving here, since they wouldn't have seen him during the first round. Sora looks to be a huge favourite tomorrow too.

damn you moltar for not telling me of spf pre-contest
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 10/18/2007 4:23:16 PM | message detail
I thought Squall > Aeris was the majority pick. >_>

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deadeyedllv | Posted 10/18/2007 4:23:44 PM | message detail
Ryu gain
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/18/2007 4:24:58 PM | message detail
Every time I try to call this match one way it goes the other way.

Man, Riku is on track to beat Snake at this rate.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/18/2007 4:35:55 PM | message detail
Dam it Ryu why couldn't you take the upset?
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/18/2007 4:50:30 PM | message detail
Squall>Aeris is highly unlikely.

Squall's definitely higher in the SFF chain.
Sora probably is, too.

Heck, she might not beat Lara. I personally took the upset and went for Sora>Squall. Hoping SFF will do its magic as usual. ^_^
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/18/2007 4:52:30 PM | message detail
Sora probably is, too.

That would be a complete stunner. While it did happen before KHII, Aeris doubled Sora in 2003.
RPGuy96 | Posted 10/18/2007 4:53:54 PM | message detail
So far, I'm saying 1-2 > 1-3 > 1-1. I've not touched anything else yet, and can't wait to...but must for probably another day or two at least, barring some awesome spare time.

1-4 blows everything prior to it completely out of the water. 1-5 is hit or miss (strong hit for me), but I'm pretty sure it's impossible to dislike 1-4.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/18/2007 5:10:26 PM | message detail
The last thirty minutes have been a complete stalemate, so Hayabusa has probably withered all of Riku's storm. I doubt he can make up 400 votes, though.
hochiminh155 | Posted 10/18/2007 5:15:13 PM | message detail
I'd, like to point out that my formula predicted this match down to a tee
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/18/2007 5:20:53 PM | message detail
Hayabusa needs about 8 votes / 5 minutes to come back.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/18/2007 5:24:52 PM | message detail
What the hell was that? Hayabusa just exploded out of nowhere, for no reason.

Votestuffing? Fluke? Rally? Eh?
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 10/18/2007 5:25:28 PM | message detail
You know what we need to save my bracket? I'll tell you what we need. Ganondorf > Luigi and Dante > Leon somehow.
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Merc25 | Posted 10/18/2007 5:56:28 PM | message detail
Ryu won't take back second place, this match is over.
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The_Ocelot2 | Posted 10/18/2007 6:24:45 PM | message detail
Dammit Ryu, I thought you were a lock after the first round. This was one of my minor upset picks and it would have put me back on the leaderboard. Gah, hopefully this means Sora will place second.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/18/2007 6:26:50 PM | message detail
I didn't even consider Ryu an upset pick when I took him. If you told me the results of his two matches pre-contest, this one would have been the harder one for me to believe.

Bleh. =/
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The_Ocelot2 | Posted 10/18/2007 6:28:16 PM | message detail
I didn't really consider it an upset pick either, more of a fanboy pick. Still, the majority had Riku so it was an upset pick (and one that was looking mighty good after the first round).
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2007 6:28:50 PM | message detail
This isn't really all that surprising. Riku + Roxas against Hayabusa was close enough as it was. When you assume that Riku probably got some of Haseo's votes and Snake's probably hindering Ryu a small bit, it works out.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2007 6:30:08 PM | message detail
Snake hindering Ryu makes no sense to me though. If anything he hurts Riku more.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/18/2007 6:35:12 PM | message detail
Snake hindering Ryu makes no sense to me though. If anything he hurts Riku more.

If Dante did it, why not Snake?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2007 6:36:30 PM | message detail
MGS/KH SFF is a joke.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/18/2007 6:36:30 PM | message detail
Because Dante and Ryu share a genre?
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The Real Truth | Posted 10/18/2007 6:37:33 PM | message detail
Yeah people kind of compare DMC to NG. I've never seen DMC or NG compared to MGS though.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/18/2007 6:38:19 PM | message detail
I think Snake is hurting Ryu more. The argument that Snake holds a definite SFF-like advantage over Riku has only one piece of evidence supporting it: Snake/Sora 2005, and that was pre-KHII and with just about the most gimped pic one can have. Granted, Snake still might undervalue Sora/Riku/KH in general in a straight match, but I don't think it would be anything near what we saw in 2005.
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2007 6:41:16 PM | message detail
Even if you completely ignore SFF, Hayabusa was only up 1000 votes on Riku/Roxas. I'm pretty confident in Riku/Roxas having a huge overlap, upwards of 90%. So then assume that 1/4 of Haseo's votes went to Riku and you get today's result.

The match was always a tossup.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/18/2007 6:42:24 PM | message detail
This could be Ryu losing the casual support he got last round because of Snake.

Doesn't really explain why he got it in the first place though. Liquid 2.0 confirmed.
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transience | Posted 10/18/2007 6:44:27 PM | message detail
Snake holds an advantage over everybody. he seems to overlap with the RPG crowd, the Nintendo crowd, the Sony crowd, the "badass" crowd... what's left?

trying to gauge who's hurt more here.. that's tough. I thought it would be Riku, but this result tells me Ryu.. who knows? I keep coming back to the Block -- if Ryu's not there, Kratos probably has a better chance.. but then, if Snake has overlap with Ryu, why wouldn't he with Kratos?

man, whatever. Block for round 4.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/18/2007 6:45:18 PM | message detail
Snake/Block SFF imminent.
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