GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 522
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/16/2007 11:47:26 AM | message detail |
| I think a choker like DK and a casual-friendly guy like Kratos are just what L-BLock needs to win this thing! |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/16/2007 11:47:48 AM | message detail |
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Pikachu almost beat Leon in that last update. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/16/2007 11:49:37 AM | message detail |
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I weep for my bracket, GameFAQs, and humanity. In that order. Also my sex life, but I'm always weeping about that one way or another. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 10/16/2007 11:58:43 AM | message detail |
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This is over. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| MadGamer_11 | Posted 10/16/2007 12:08:22 PM | message detail |
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Why is it over?!?!? Vivi is pretty close still... --- "To be forgotten is worse than death"-Freya FFIX |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/16/2007 12:09:20 PM | message detail |
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It's over because Pikachu just took back in 1 hour what took Vivi all morning to cut. TuRtLe ~~~ 169/216 in the contest. Next pick: Leon > Yellow Rat BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/16/2007 12:10:19 PM | message detail |
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Go go Pikachu! ^_^ --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. Kyle Bowen: Ignore me then and dont be an ass when I post. It solves everything. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/16/2007 12:10:42 PM | message detail |
| And seeing Pikachu closer to Vivi/Tidus than he is
to Leon is a good thing. I was worried after he demolished Tidus that
Pikachu would be a threat to advance to round 4 if there was any kind
of overlap between Leon and Dante. TuRtLe ~~~ 169/216 in the contest. Next pick: Leon > Yellow Rat BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Lopen | Posted 10/16/2007 12:14:43 PM | message detail |
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We still haven't hit the real ASV yet... Vivi has a chance, dammit! The pre-ASV is not always the same...! ... VIIIVIIIIIIII! --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/16/2007 12:18:35 PM | message detail |
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So we all agree without Tidus being here, Vivi beats Pikachu? --- The apples were too strong for him.- Abomstar http://server3.uploadit.org/files/ff6man-PhoenixVote.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/16/2007 12:19:56 PM | message detail |
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I've said from the beginning that I'd take Vivi comfortably over Pikachu 1 on 1. TuRtLe ~~~ 169/216 in the contest. Next pick: Leon > Yellow Rat BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Lopen | Posted 10/16/2007 12:20:17 PM | message detail |
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Pretty undeniable at this point. This isn't a Riku/Roxas kinda split we
need. Hell I think without Vivi here Tidus scrapes by Pikachu too...
guess Serge and Isaac hurt him a good deal. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Big Bob | Posted 10/16/2007 12:20:54 PM | message detail |
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Are people forgetting pokemon is an RPG, too? Isaac would hurt Pikachu more than he would Tidus. --- "You're slowing going from Nixon to Mr. Burns." -Jon Stewart on Bush |
| Lopen | Posted 10/16/2007 12:24:01 PM | message detail |
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Pokemon is not an RPG in terms of fanbase, I don't care what its genre is. I didn't even think Serge and Isaac were doing enough to deny Tidus the win last round, but Tidus is keeping this close enough now that I can't help but think they were. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| BDawg | Posted 10/16/2007 12:26:48 PM | message detail |
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At least Leon is treading water instead of getting drowned like Vivi. --- Should I start running now? |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/16/2007 12:29:36 PM | message detail |
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;_; I know it was stupid to hope but I was hoping Vivi could keep it close and maybe he could come back in the night but at this rate DAMN YOU TEEDUS AND RAT --- The apples were too strong for him.- Abomstar http://server3.uploadit.org/files/ff6man-PhoenixVote.jpg |
| smitelf | Posted 10/16/2007 12:31:54 PM | message detail |
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No one is calling for a MC like boost. Was it really that hard to comprehend? So what sort of boost are you calling for, exactly? You clearly weren't just bringing it up for that fact. It doesn't matter if the 360 is more popular then, so smitelf's original argument is the one that is pointless. The 360 is more popular than the Xbox, correct? So Halo 3 is more likely to be the first Halo game people have played than GoW II is to be the first GoW game people have played. Thus Master Chief is reaching a new audience, which explains his big boost. Kratos doesn't have any reason to squeeze a big boost out of his new game. A few points, yes, but nothing compared to his 2005-2006 boost, which came from a big expansion of his audience when more people started to play the original game. No, he doesn't need an MC-like boost to beat Kirby; I was only using MC as an example of a character who has benefitted from a sequel due to factors that aren't present in Kratos's case. In conclusion, Kratos will do better this year than last, but there's no reason to think that the boost will be all that big. It's really just more of the same playing to the same audience as the original game. Other characters have failed to get big fat boosts from sequels before. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/16/2007 12:34:16 PM | message detail |
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It's over....disappointmenton. --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Leon/Vivi/Pikachu/Tidus - Bracket: Leon > Vivi - Vote: Leon (183/216) |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/16/2007 12:34:50 PM | message detail |
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but Tidus is keeping this close enough now that I can't help but think they were. But statistically speaking, aren't Tidus and Pikachu in the same ratio this round as they are last round? Using Morgoth's formula anyway --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2007 12:36:00 PM | message detail |
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I'm calling for a boost slightly smaller than what he got last year. If
you think he boosted more than few percentage points last year, you're
wrong too, so I don't see why you keep saying he can boost a few
points, and then saying his boost won't be that big. A few points is a
pretty damn large boost from one year to the next. As for the MC thing, I understand that whole thing, my point was that Kratos doesn't need to be proportionately impressive this year as MC is compared to his previous year's figure. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/16/2007 12:37:15 PM | message detail |
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So what sort of boost are you calling for, exactly? Kratos (2006c) VS Dante (2004c) Kratos has a strength of 27.65. Dante has a strength of 27.33. Kratos wins with 50.58% of the vote! A win of 1,131 with 97,714 total votes cast. A Devil May Cry 3-sized boost for Kratos would probably be appropriate. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2007 12:37:35 PM | message detail |
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But statistically speaking, aren't Tidus and Pikachu in the same ratio this round as they are last round? Using Morgoth's formula anyway Exactly. Which means Vivi is probably hurting him just as much as Issac and Serge were. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| ZFS | Posted 10/16/2007 12:37:46 PM | message detail |
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I don't think there's any reason to doubt Kratos getting a good sized
boost this year. You can cite that "there wasn't a whole lot of new
people who played it," but with a character as new as Kratos, having
another game just continues to solidify your position in with the fans
you already have. You can think he's cool in GoW1, but then consider
him one of your favorites after GoW2. For characters who are well-known and have plenty of games to their name another sequel isn't that big of deal. Someone like Kratos isn't going to receive a meager boost from a game as large as God of War II. Between what new people bought into GoW2 and Kratos being that much cooler of a character in the game, I'd expect a good boost from him. It won't be much longer before he's hanging with the near elites -- if he isn't knocking on that door already. --- godslayer |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2007 12:38:38 PM | message detail |
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A Devil May Cry 3-sized boost for Kratos would probably be appropriate. Which was about 3%, which smitelf seems to be more than willing to give out, by the contest siting of "a few percentage points." Unless a few means one. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 10/16/2007 12:41:10 PM | message detail |
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Shouldn't Kratos have the SPF on his side? ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9855-550x-contra-poster-2-dsf.jpg |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2007 12:42:12 PM | message detail |
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why didnt i think of this kratos > link confirmed --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| smitelf | Posted 10/16/2007 12:43:09 PM | message detail |
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From PortugalTheMann I'm calling for a boost slightly smaller than what he got last year. If you think he boosted more than few percentage points last year, you're wrong too x-stats: Kratos '05: 20.4 Kratos '06: 27.65 That's more than a few points. so I don't see why you keep saying he can boost a few points, and then saying his boost won't be that big. A few points is a pretty damn large boost from one year to the next. Not really. Characters can go up and down in the stats year to year for no obvious reason anyway. Kratos has an obvious reason to go up, and he probably has, but it's impossible to tell by how much at this point, and there's no reason to think it's more than a conservative amount. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| swirIdude | Posted 10/16/2007 12:44:24 PM | message detail |
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Kratos '05: 20.4 Kratos '06: 27.65 Except isn't the 2006 stat based off of Samus? --- Jesus never had co-op adventure mode. Brawl is a little bit better. ~McMoogle Squall > Sora is a lock. ~Lady Ashe |
| Luis_Sera89 | Posted 10/16/2007 12:44:28 PM | message detail |
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Kratos was behind Snake/Sora in '05. --- "Eet's game time..." |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 10/16/2007 12:44:44 PM | message detail |
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I mean, the timing works, doesn't it? It hasn't been out as long as
KH2, but the genre difference allows for more frequent playthroughs. (btw i purchased the original this year and am voting for him so the boost will clearly also be partially attributed to him just being given more time to settle in. this dude may even beat jay solano) ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9855-550x-contra-poster-2-dsf.jpg |
| BDawg | Posted 10/16/2007 12:46:23 PM | message detail |
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Ah hehe so now I've lost 14 points in this division and I have
Leon>Dante. Actually I haven't given up all hope on that, but it
probably shouldn't even be favored. Hooray divison 6! --- Should I start running now? |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2007 12:47:30 PM | message detail |
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...Kratos boosting that much last year only helps my case. He boosted
that much from not even having a new game out. Now he does, give him a
boost half the size of that, and he's above Kirby. And a boost half the
size of that certainly seems to be a few percentage points. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2007 12:49:30 PM | message detail |
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And for the record, 2K5 Kratos is underrated, while 2K6 Kratos is
overrated, so really it's only a few, but regardless, if you want to
argue that he increased 7%, I'll roll with that too. No matter how you
slice it, Kratos looks good. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 10/16/2007 12:52:16 PM | message detail |
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Why exactly is this even being discussed? Given how well the casual
characters have been performing to this point, the man's path is set in
stone unless he somehow manages to survive Snake. (Which while awesome,
is pretty doubtful. =/) ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9855-550x-contra-poster-2-dsf.jpg |
| smitelf | Posted 10/16/2007 12:52:37 PM | message detail |
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He boosted that much from not even having a new game out. Now he
does, give him a boost half the size of that, and he's above Kirby. ...Possibly. I don't really trust Kirby's '05 or '06 values because they're based off matches with other Nintendo characters (though the '06 value is probably closer to reality than the '05 value). Our read on Kratos right now is terrible because of DK (and possibly an SFFed DK? A fellow SSB character was in the match...). But anyway, this is all academic, Kratos is obviously winning the match. We'll see by how much. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2007 12:53:16 PM | message detail |
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Snake > Kratos instead of Snake > Kirby would make me the happiest man in the world. But with Snake and Ryu H. to deal with in that poll, I don't think Kratos can handle the heat. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2007 12:54:16 PM | message detail |
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Well it's not all pointless. If he absolutely boosted through the roof
he could come in 2nd to Snake the next round, I'm not calling for it
though. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 10/16/2007 12:57:13 PM | message detail |
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Oh, right. Ryu H is for all intents and purposes a lock, isn't he? Yay for cutting into Moltar's lead. :) ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9855-550x-contra-poster-2-dsf.jpg |
| smitelf | Posted 10/16/2007 12:58:00 PM | message detail |
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One thing this match has made me think about is how badly Riku was
SFFed in his match. Tidus's performance is too good and Pikachu's too
poor to be explained in any way other than Tidus being SFFed by Isaac
and Serge. Isaac is a GB character and Serge is from an unrelated
Square series - if those two can make Tidus look that bad, I'm thinking
Riku might surprise us. He probably still won't beat Ryu H., but I
wouldn't be shocked by it. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/16/2007 12:58:16 PM | message detail |
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darn you kingdom heaaaaaaarrrtttsss --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Leon/Vivi/Pikachu/Tidus - Bracket: Leon > Vivi - Vote: Leon (183/216) |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 10/16/2007 12:59:09 PM | message detail |
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...You would not be surpised by... where the hell is that device for punching people over the internet. =/ ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9855-550x-contra-poster-2-dsf.jpg |
| voltch | Posted 10/16/2007 12:59:27 PM | message detail |
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pokemon # 25 is stronger than black mage? still at least vivi's thundaga>pikachu's thunder. --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2007 12:59:55 PM | message detail |
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Unless for some strange reason Snake and Nightmare hurt Ryu H. more than Riku... and that shouldn't happen after Snake/Sora. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| smitelf | Posted 10/16/2007 1:00:43 PM | message detail |
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Hey, I'm not saying it'll happen, but after Tidus's impressive
performance here, Riku's chances look better to me than they did
before. Not fantastic, but better. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2007 1:01:23 PM | message detail |
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One thing this match has made me think about is how badly Riku was
SFFed in his match. Tidus's performance is too good and Pikachu's too
poor to be explained in any way other than Tidus being SFFed by Isaac
and Serge. Isaac is a GB character and Serge is from an unrelated
Square series - if those two can make Tidus look that bad, I'm thinking
Riku might surprise us. He probably still won't beat Ryu H., but I
wouldn't be shocked by it. There's one huge... massive, thing you're missing. Vivi and Tidus combined kick the living piss out of Leon. Riku and Roxas combined lose to Ryu H. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| smitelf | Posted 10/16/2007 1:01:42 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Snake is the biggest problem for Riku. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| smitelf | Posted 10/16/2007 1:02:50 PM | message detail |
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There's one huge... massive, thing you're missing. Vivi and Tidus combined kick the living piss out of Leon. Riku and Roxas combined lose to Ryu H. And what about Haseo? --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| swirIdude | Posted 10/16/2007 1:03:46 PM | message detail |
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Haseo could have leeched both of them, but clearly no one cares. --- Jesus never had co-op adventure mode. Brawl is a little bit better. ~McMoogle Squall > Sora is a lock. ~Lady Ashe |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/16/2007 1:03:51 PM | message detail |
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....have we not been through this a million times? If you think Riku is getting 100% of Roxas' votes, and then 60% of Haseo's, you're bat-**** crazy. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/16/2007 1:04:54 PM | message detail |
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I could buy Riku beating Hayabusa if only because Hayabusa could be,
er, SFFed worse than Riku this round. Nightmare could have a shot, too,
since he didn't crumble against Snake, even if Riku and Hayabusa are
most likely a bit stronger indirectly. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
