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HaRRicH | Posted 10/15/2007 9:30:11 PM | message detail
It was his attitude AND pick...much more attitude, but it's not like many of us thought it was a bright pick.
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BDawg | Posted 10/15/2007 9:30:30 PM | message detail
Good lord Pikachu is gonna be taking updates from Leon in the morning and afterschool. Go to hell, division 6. Round 3 Leech Pikachu advance you are on the way to destruction.
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smitelf | Posted 10/15/2007 9:30:46 PM | message detail
And wow. Either Vivi has fallen completely off the map, or Tidus is somehow higher on the FF SFF chain. I never would have guessed it given how badly Squall killed him last year.

There's the old FF food chain to consider, too. FFVII > FFVIII > FFX > FFIX.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/15/2007 9:30:49 PM | message detail
Leon's just destroying everyone now.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/15/2007 9:31:01 PM | message detail
I don't know who I should hate more Tidus or Pikachu.

I vote pikachu.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2007 9:31:06 PM | message detail
Pikachu won't drop. His best time against Tidus was the ASV. Mudkip and Bidoof were only so frontloaded because they had 4chan rallying and a huge Board vote. Pikachu has nowhere to go but up when day comes.

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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/15/2007 9:31:11 PM | message detail
That post right there is a perfect example of the attitude I am speaking of. I can't wait until you leave. :)
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:31:19 PM | message detail
Black Turtle, nobody likes arrogant people who just post nonsense and troll.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/15/2007 9:31:43 PM | message detail
From the :30 mark in his Round 1 match Pikachu actually finished slightly higher.

He's not dropping this one.
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paraboxx | Posted 10/15/2007 9:31:51 PM | message detail
Perhaps Vivi is lower on the pecking order for new school FF fans, and just much much higher for old school FF fans. That could explain what appears to be some rSFF in this match.

And I find it pretty amusing that the games doing well are Halo and Pokemon, two series that are supposed to have completely different demographics. (Rated M For Mature, anyone?)
Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/15/2007 9:32:00 PM | message detail
Black Turtle, nobody likes arrogant people who just post nonsense and troll.

you are the greatest poster on the board
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:32:03 PM | message detail
oh man i really want to sig that
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/15/2007 9:32:04 PM | message detail
From hochiminh155 Posted 10/16/2007 12:31:19 AM #058
Black Turtle, nobody likes arrogant people who just post nonsense and troll.

10/10.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2007 9:32:16 PM | message detail
Tidus is killing Vivi here.

Stupid Tidus - flop like crazy when we root for you, then leech like mad from Vivi when we need you to suck. Gah, so frustrating.

I dub this the official WORST. RESULT. EVAR.

Pikachu doesn't even deserve to kneel at Vivi's feet. That's too good for him.


Yet I'm the closed minded troll.

lol board 8 hypocrisy

TuRtLe
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/15/2007 9:32:29 PM | message detail
Black Turtle, nobody likes arrogant people who just post nonsense and troll.

Now see there are some people worth not ignoring <3 <3 <3 hochi :D
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:32:50 PM | message detail
Dante hasn't looked very strong, and you know he and Leon will have some sort of overlap (with Amaterasu proving to be more or less a non-factor). Uh-oh.
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smitelf | Posted 10/15/2007 9:32:51 PM | message detail
I have several people on GameFox-style ignore (you can see that they've posted, but not what they've posted unless you unhide the message). BT isn't one of them. I don't get what people find so offensive about him.

Congrats, BT.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2007 9:33:06 PM | message detail
There's the old FF food chain to consider, too. FFVII > FFVIII > FFX > FFIX.

Didn't Vivi hold up pretty well to Sephiroth though?

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Big Bob | Posted 10/15/2007 9:33:10 PM | message detail
Pikachu > Dante in Round 3.
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ZFS | Posted 10/15/2007 9:33:40 PM | message detail
Man, this is horrible -- worse than anything 'doof or Mudkip ended up doing. I didn't figure it was too likely that Vivi completely dominated the SFF here, but good grief. I still can't believe there's that many people out there that like this thing. I mean, Pikachu? Really? Bah. Glad we're finished with seeing Pokemon for a while after this one.The Pokemon performances this year just confuse me.

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Rollthebones2 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:33:59 PM | message detail
It's because he's so annoying and arrogant, smitelf.

lol Zero.
creativename | Posted 10/15/2007 9:34:00 PM | message detail
I don't love Master Chief, but I don't mind him. Halo is awesome, and Xbox 360 Live Arcade is awesome. The 360 is my favorite console this generation.

Pikachu however just sucks horribly. And Vivi rules. For Pikachu to be winning over Vivi simply because Tidus is in the match is just puke-inducing.

I don't see how today's outcome is so unexpected, but then a lot of people here were seriously underestimating Tidus.

I was underestimating him, but he was expected to get 20% here Oracle-wise. So overall he's doing as expected.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/15/2007 9:34:14 PM | message detail
From the :30 mark in his Round 1 match Pikachu actually finished slightly higher.

He's not dropping this one.


Mudkip and Bidoof dropped much more in R2 than R1. I suppose that the hope is that Pikachu will do the same.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2007 9:34:30 PM | message detail
Hopefully Leon can put some more distance between him and Pikachu. I'd hate for my Dark Horse to go farther than he's supposed to

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smitelf | Posted 10/15/2007 9:34:35 PM | message detail
Perhaps Vivi is lower on the pecking order for new school FF fans, and just much much higher for old school FF fans. That could explain what appears to be some rSFF in this match.

Honestly, I don't think there's any rSFF here. I think people just really underestimated Tidus because of '06 and because they thought Pikachu would be weaker for some reason.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/15/2007 9:35:48 PM | message detail
Have Dante's performances really looked that bad? I guess they seem a bit underwhelming considering that Amaterasu has come in second in both his matches, but Okami may be moderately legit on this site, and with the kind of fanbase that won't be denied.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2007 9:35:56 PM | message detail
Once again, Mudkip and Bidoof are joke Pokemon that were REALLY frontloaded due to 4chan and the board vote. They had nowhere to go but down.

Pikachu is the FACE of the Pokemon series. He has nowhere to go but up after the night vote ends.

TuRtLe
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:35:58 PM | message detail
Yeah, I can't say this is very surprising, but just seeing it right there on the front page is enough to turn me sour. Of course, I don't really know much about Vivi, so I'm kinda meh right now. If Pikachu somehow takes advantage of the Leon/Dante split next round, it's safe to assume that I'll rant my way out of here.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:36:05 PM | message detail
Didn't Vivi hold up pretty well to Sephiroth though?


That was when he was good in 2004. He also slaughtered DK that year. In 2005, he got smacked pretty hard by Zelda and fell fto a mid-carder. Now he's looking at below Rikku level. It makes sense, Vivi should never have been high as he was. Another FF character knocked out of the elites. Now we have


Cloud
Seph
Vincent
Auron
Squall
Tifa


Aeris was knocked out last year and Tidus was knocked out a long time ago. No other FF character has ever been in the "FF Elite Circle"



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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:36:08 PM | message detail
Ha, man. This is bad.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/15/2007 9:37:01 PM | message detail
So looks like Vivi can't massively SFF Tidus.

Whoops!
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/15/2007 9:37:02 PM | message detail
Mudkip didn't even do bad in the day. He only dropped because he got so many frikking 4chan/joke votes to begin the match.
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dlcb1 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:37:13 PM | message detail
I don't mind BT at all. In fact, I find him occasionally entertaining.

And how many topics will people complain about him. What is this, ten topics in a row? If you want to ignore him, ignore him. And then you can get back to the contest discussion.

On topic: Go Vivi!!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2007 9:37:20 PM | message detail
IMO Dante has disappointed. I would say Zero's round 1 fourpack beats the crap out of both of Dante's matches, but I would have pegged Zero and Dante as being equal. We'll see how he does against actual competition next round, but Ganon and MC are looking most likely to advance in round 4.

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ZFS | Posted 10/15/2007 9:37:33 PM | message detail
Haha, whoa. Tidus putting up a fight for third there. Well, if Vivi ain't gonna win, the best character in the poll might as well get as high as possible!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/15/2007 9:38:06 PM | message detail
I think people just really underestimated Tidus because of '06

That's willfully ignoring the fact that Tidus got killed against Kirby in a match he was easily supposed to win, and before that got killed by Mega Man after going even with Shadow the Hedgehog (a much less impressive affair now that we know where Shadow is). When you consider in retrospect that hanging so close to Vivi is the most impressive thing Tidus has done since nearly beating Ganondorf, that's pretty sad.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:38:59 PM | message detail
the best character in the poll might as well get as high as possible!

Pikachu for first IMO.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:39:23 PM | message detail
Haha, whoa. Tidus putting up a fight for third there. Well, if Vivi ain't gonna win, the best character in the poll might as well get as high as possible!

Damn skippy! Give us something to root for, Teedus!
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/15/2007 9:39:27 PM | message detail
yo sums it up pretty well. I don't think any of us really didn't expect this after Round 1, or at least knew in the back of our minds this had a really good shot at happening, it's just that it's such a putrid disgusting, horrid, awful result, that we were going to deny it all the way until the end. (I said this match was over 30 minutes ago... at it was, yet I'm still checking each update on the second thinking "oh man this is when Vivi makes a cut!") god dammit pikachu

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Haste_2 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:39:42 PM | message detail
Uhh... Tidus is still the hero of FFX. There's no need to think just because he's not performing horribly you have to assume rSFF. And, some of you actually thought Vivi would SFF Tidus? I wouldn't consider FF9 to be as closely related to FF10 as, say, FF8 or even FF7. Also, I think we're seeing today that Vivi and Tidus aren't suffering from a fanbase split nearly as much as Squall and Aeris in Round 1.

Oh, and whoever compares Pikachu to Barney needs to be shot!

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creativename | Posted 10/15/2007 9:40:11 PM | message detail
Black Turtle, nobody likes arrogant people who just post nonsense and troll.

Black Turtle wants to be hochiminh when he grows up.

Good call on Pikachu BT, but...you know.

hochi, are you going to unmask yourself after the contest?
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paraboxx | Posted 10/15/2007 9:40:23 PM | message detail
Honestly, I don't think there's any rSFF here. I think people just really underestimated Tidus because of '06 and because they thought Pikachu would be weaker for some reason.

I could see that, I suppose. If I understand the concept correctly, SFF (or rSFF) isn't supposed to happen as much if the characters are roughly equal to begin with (Cloud/Sephiroth '03, for example). I had a hard time believing Tidus and Vivi were near-equals after round 1, but with Pikachu getting a decisive win over both of them it would actually seem pretty likely.

So would Squall kill Vivi just as bad as he killed Tidus...?
ZFS | Posted 10/15/2007 9:40:24 PM | message detail
death would be too good for you tissue

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smitelf | Posted 10/15/2007 9:40:50 PM | message detail
Didn't Vivi hold up pretty well to Sephiroth though?

I don't trust Sephiroth as a measuring stick for much of anything.

It's because he's so annoying and arrogant, smitelf.

He doesn't seem any more arrogant than the average stats topic poster. Anyway, he's earned his gloating today.
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Fiop | Posted 10/15/2007 9:41:15 PM | message detail
Assuming Pikachu advances today, he may fall victim to cute monster SFF next round with Ammy in there...
Haste_2 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:41:28 PM | message detail
40 minutes in, and nobody has even cut anyone's lead yet.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/15/2007 9:42:09 PM | message detail
It's possible that Vivi makes it interesting if he can make it out of the power hour.

Of course it would only be temporarily interesting since it will only last through the night.
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ZFS | Posted 10/15/2007 9:42:38 PM | message detail
Pikachu to Barney? Is BT at it again?

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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/15/2007 9:43:19 PM | message detail
In 2005, Vivi and Tidus were close. So, we just assumed Vivi would SFF Tidus because it's Tidus but that was actually pretty stupid of us to think a side character from FFIX could SFF the lead from FFX. Really, there's no SFF here. But Tidus is bringing Vivi down by cutting into the Final Fantasy pie.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/15/2007 9:43:44 PM | message detail
He doesn't seem any more arrogant than the average stats topic poster.

That people can be this blind makes me all the more confident in my elitism
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