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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2007 10:00:26 PM | message detail
all casual gamers know mudkip?

...are you dense?


All casual gamers that I know do. o.O

My definition of casual is more of the Wii crowd than the Game Fuel believe bunch, though.
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Keno316 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:00:34 PM | message detail
If Mudkip were to win, I'd probably fall out of my chair laughing.


...But then I'd cry...

Also...if these joke characters really are a hindrance on these polls, Vincent looks even better now.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/12/2007 10:01:30 PM | message detail
Mudkip is not a pure joke character. A pure joke character would fall apart in the day. I'd say his fanbase is half joke and half Pokemon fans.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:02:19 PM | message detail
If he didn't have the "half joke," wouldn't he get beaten relatively easily?
GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/12/2007 10:02:20 PM | message detail
and 100% terrible
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2007 10:02:33 PM | message detail
*sigh*

When Mudkip drops in the day, can I have a cookie?

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/12/2007 10:02:55 PM | message detail
Ouch. Luigi's down 600 to Kipz already.
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:03:09 PM | message detail
This contest has gained all credibility.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2007 10:03:15 PM | message detail
Mudkip will just keep going up and up from here.

Watch out Link!
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2007 10:03:28 PM | message detail
Mudkip's votes were staying pretty suspiciously constant here for a time when they should be dropping.

I see people talking about how 4chan is not paying attention here, but the data clearly invites suspicions.

And yes, Mudkip will do decent in the day - I agree with those who say he's not a joke. Most of his strength is PokePower. But it's probable a non-trivial amount of his votes right now are shady.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2007 10:03:52 PM | message detail
4chan is in full gear at this point. I checked.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/12/2007 10:04:16 PM | message detail
Nidoran F got 19% on Samus and Mudkip is more liked in the Pokemon fanbase than her. Stop acting like random Pokemon can't have strength because they can.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:04:17 PM | message detail
He's getting rallied to hell right now; of course he'll drop. However, it seems nearly impossible for him to fall to third. He was impressive against Luigi in the day, and he'll build enough of a lead soon to easily sustain him. He's a guarantee to advance, and the big favorite to win outright.
chaosarcher07 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:04:25 PM | message detail
He might drop during the day, but if this keeps going through the night, it's definitely too late for Luigi.
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redrocket | Posted 10/12/2007 10:04:39 PM | message detail
Since the 12:52 update, Mudkip's votes per update have been dropping steadily. Ganon and Luigi have just been dropping faster...

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BDawg | Posted 10/12/2007 10:04:50 PM | message detail
Every five minutes I'm getting closer to calling this legit and I am honestly scared of what this says about round 3....AND BEYOND.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2007 10:05:06 PM | message detail
Psh Luigi can still beat Ganondorf believe
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2007 10:05:07 PM | message detail
So, with Ganondorf and Mudkip both being locks to advance at this point (because there is no way Luigi can come back the moment this insanity stops)... What are the odds of either MC > Yuna or MC > Kips? D:
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:05:15 PM | message detail
Mudkip's getting the same full force vote stuffing that Bidoof got... nothing to worry about.

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creativename | Posted 10/12/2007 10:05:29 PM | message detail
Why does it have to be stuffing though? 4chan has at least 2000 people on at this time of night, and they're an even bigger hindmind than even this place.

I have no idea why you don't understand the concept of cheat votes. It's not as clear-cut here, but you refused to accept for Bidoof IIRC, and that was about as obvious as could be.
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Warsola | Posted 10/12/2007 10:05:48 PM | message detail
After Pikachu's smooth win, I can't see how anyone can shrug off ANY Pokemon strength as not there.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/12/2007 10:05:56 PM | message detail
I see people talking about how 4chan is not paying attention here, but the data clearly invites suspicions.

If anything, that lends itself more to vote stuffing, rather than it just being a huge group of people voting for Mudkip. Honestly, how many people from 4-chan do you really think are in on this joke? And if there are that many people who are into it, why wouldn't all their votes be crammed into an update or two? It makes no sense for it to be spread out so evenly like it is.

I'm convinced it's either his actual strength, with a little 4chan on top, or it's stuffing, and he's going to drop pretty good during the day.

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ZFS | Posted 10/12/2007 10:06:42 PM | message detail
Gah. The fact that Mudkip stands a chance at advancing here is nuts. People seriously like this thing that much?

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2007 10:06:48 PM | message detail
After Pikachu's smooth win, I can't see how anyone can shrug off ANY Pokemon strength as not there.

We accepted Pokemon's strength after bubububububut 48% on METROID
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/12/2007 10:06:49 PM | message detail
How are the votals looking compared to the other matches?
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2007 10:07:14 PM | message detail
Nidoran F got 19% on Samus and Mudkip is more liked in the Pokemon fanbase than her. Stop acting like random Pokemon can't have strength because they can.

Indeed.

This is why I hope there's an audit - with Mudkip having some legit strength, and Luigi/Ganon LFF, there's a good chance of Mudkip placing here. And a few thousand cheat votes could well make the difference in that case.
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MadGamer_11 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:07:16 PM | message detail
This is the most absurd thing I have ever seen...
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Keno316 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:07:22 PM | message detail
I hate to say after Pikachu, all might just be fair game...



And...also...if Mudkip ends up winning here...suddenly Ganondorf/Tidus looks up in question again. WTF indeed!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2007 10:07:40 PM | message detail
Come on Luigi Ganondorf is a pushover! >_>
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chaosarcher07 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:07:45 PM | message detail
Everyone from 4chan is in on this joke. But it isn't legitimate by any means.
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redrocket | Posted 10/12/2007 10:07:53 PM | message detail
Honestly, how many people from 4-chan do you really think are in on this joke?

Umm, Mudkip was a far bigger meme on 4-chan that Bidoof ever was. He's practically one of their mascots...

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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2007 10:08:39 PM | message detail
Kay he is slowing everything going back to normal along nothing to see here next match please.
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paraboxx | Posted 10/12/2007 10:08:42 PM | message detail
After Pikachu's smooth win, I can't see how anyone can shrug off ANY Pokemon strength as not there.

Pikachu is an icon. Mudkip is a disgrace.

There's no question Pokemon has gained some strength since '03. But enough for Random Pokemon #342 + Obscure Internet Fad to = first place? Doubt it.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2007 10:08:52 PM | message detail
How can you say for sure that they have to be stuffed votes? Like I said, you've got everyone on 4chan legitimately voting and this is the kind of result you'll get, a massive front-end rally. Don't forget other sites like LL that would love to get a random Pokemon through.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2007 10:08:55 PM | message detail
Votals from yesterday at the half-hour mark: 6476

Votals now: 7566

...yeah.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/12/2007 10:09:20 PM | message detail
...and if they were so concerned with Mudkip winning in a poll on another site, they'd all be voting in the first couple of updates. It's like hardcore poll watchers here, most of the boards vote is casted in the opening minutes. It doesn't make sense to me for it to be so continuous, if they're going to vote for him, they're gonna do it right away.

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BDawg | Posted 10/12/2007 10:09:48 PM | message detail
Uh I would take Mudkip directly and indirectly over Pikachu, but that doesn't mean he should be slapping around Ganon and Luigi.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2007 10:10:00 PM | message detail
GG, do you not understand the concept of continuous rallying/stuffing?
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chaosarcher07 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:10:02 PM | message detail
Honestly, I don't see Pikachu being stronger than Mudkip.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2007 10:10:42 PM | message detail
So... ___Fear, SPF, LFF, 4cF...

What's next?
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Keno316 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:11:16 PM | message detail
So... ___Fear, SPF, LFF, 4cF...

What's next?


Its the ****ing Format Factor won't be far behind!
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redrocket | Posted 10/12/2007 10:11:20 PM | message detail
Votals from yesterday at the half-hour mark: 6476

Votals now: 7566

...yeah.


Rallying alone is more than enough to explain a mere thousand vote difference.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2007 10:12:25 PM | message detail
LUIGI CUT GOOO
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2007 10:12:31 PM | message detail
Mudkip's votes behaving a lot more normally now.

GG
Honestly, how many people from 4-chan do you really think are in on this joke? And if there are that many people who are into it, why wouldn't all their votes be crammed into an update or two? It makes no sense for it to be spread out so evenly like it is.

Well it's fairly obvious the "rally" notion is likely complete crap. Either it's stuffing, or they're having no impact, as you said.


MadGamer
This is the most absurd thing I have ever seen...

This would definitely be the most absurd thing that's ever happened in these contests. I had never even heard of Mudkip before.


Keno
And...also...if Mudkip ends up winning here...suddenly Ganondorf/Tidus looks up in question again. WTF indeed!

Heh :) Well I wouldn't quite go that far ;)
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2007 10:12:34 PM | message detail
Cut Ganondorf, anyway. >_>
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paraboxx | Posted 10/12/2007 10:12:49 PM | message detail
Uh I would take Mudkip directly and indirectly over Pikachu...

Honestly, I don't see Pikachu being stronger than Mudkip.


...okay, no more arguments from me on this. This whole "Mudkipz" thing is clearly way, way, waaaay bigger than I thought.
YoAriel33 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:13:29 PM | message detail
Luigi time baby!
redrocket | Posted 10/12/2007 10:14:14 PM | message detail
Well it's fairly obvious the "rally" notion is likely complete crap. Either it's stuffing, or they're having no impact, as you said.

Can you explain why this is? Like I said, a mere increase of 1000 total votes is easily explained by rallying when a site as large as 4chan is involved.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/12/2007 10:14:51 PM | message detail
Ganondorf weakness = Zelda weakness = Cloud > Link still confirmed, awe yeah.
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Keno316 | Posted 10/12/2007 10:15:03 PM | message detail
So...Mudkip could possibly have a lead as larges as 4 digits before he finally starts falling down. ...That's gotta be a record for joke entries.
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