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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 518

BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2007 12:55:27 PM | message detail
aww yeah zero

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19


*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/


*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html


*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm


*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php


*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 10 Lists:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2002stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2003stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july2006stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2006stats.htm

RPguy's Hourly Poll Updates:
www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/contest.html

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://adamrose.mit.edu/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10

Manual Poll Updater:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/pollupdate.php

Crono and Vincent are so screwed

TuRtLe
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141/184 in the contest. Next pick: Crono > Zero
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2007 3:35:41 PM | message detail
The Meta Knight hardcore fanbase theory is statistical sorcery.
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TexasAggie | Posted 10/12/2007 3:36:35 PM | message detail
Tanner>Crono CONFIRMED
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2007 3:37:04 PM | message detail
Pretty sure half the Stats Topic regulars won't even know this exists. <_<
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2007 3:48:25 PM | message detail
Poor Chrono Trigger.

Square needs to start exploiting them some Chrono franchise stat.
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2007 3:53:35 PM | message detail
I wonder if the lack of a kickass pic will hurt Amataseru.
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Keno316 | Posted 10/12/2007 3:55:05 PM | message detail
Crono should be able to finally plug up the bleeding in about 30 minutes or so, so he'll most likely end up above 37% during the evening...


But this is still not the best from him.


Lets just wait and see if Sonic did get a boost or he still disappoints in this format.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/12/2007 3:56:33 PM | message detail
Yeah, say goodbye to half of the stats topic for Part 518.

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/12/2007 4:00:03 PM | message detail
Goodbye, half the stats topic!

See you in part 519!
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2007 4:02:39 PM | message detail
I'll post in this for awhile...but if another one is made pretty soon, I'm going to that one instead -- I really don't think this one will get much participation.....
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2007 4:05:00 PM | message detail
As for today...Zero's actually only 5% away from Crono right now? Interesting, but considering Zero's easily got the best/most recognizable picture, I would hope he could take this much advantage of it. Zero needs an even better picture advantage if he's going to survive next round.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2007 4:12:29 PM | message detail
Why would Link take away more votes from Crono than Zero? Just compare Link/Crono and Link/Megaman (and Link/Magus lol).

Actually I meant that if you take any two characters and they're say 5% apart, and add Link, the sheer domination Link lies down means that 5% will shrink. Less votes to go around.

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141/184 in the contest. Next pick: Crono > Zero
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2007 4:15:21 PM | message detail
Yeah, I know that I voted for Zero in protest of that picture. I'm sure others did so as well. <_<
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2007 4:17:50 PM | message detail
And why would this topic not get participation? Is it because something I've been arguing since last year is finally looking to prove itself true?

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141/184 in the contest. Next pick: Crono > Zero
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2007 4:18:25 PM | message detail
It's because you're on the Ignore List of a lot of people, which means nobody can see this topic.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 10/12/2007 4:20:29 PM | message detail
Another reason the ignore feature is stupid, whether you hate BT or not.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2007 4:21:53 PM | message detail
Why? Maybe he'll get the message this way.
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2007 4:23:31 PM | message detail
Does anyone know if fourchan will be stuffing for Mudkip in this match?
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Ed Bellis | Posted 10/12/2007 4:24:08 PM | message detail
Haha. =P
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/12/2007 4:24:33 PM | message detail
It's almost a certainty.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2007 4:25:37 PM | message detail
I honestly can't see anybody using the ignore feature and especially not for me. I guess I just have faith in humanity that people don't get that offended by words said over the interweb.

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141/184 in the contest. Next pick: Crono > Zero
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/12/2007 4:25:58 PM | message detail
How long does Mudkipz hold on to 2nd? /b/ is going to be way more active for this match.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/12/2007 4:26:21 PM | message detail
well then you're dumb, because they are.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2007 4:26:38 PM | message detail
4chan won't stuff Mudkip, but they will rally for him. I can see him leading by a good margin after the first hour, requiring Luigi and Ganondorf to both mount comebacks through the night/day.

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141/184 in the contest. Next pick: Crono > Zero
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 10/12/2007 4:27:03 PM | message detail
Mudkip better take first place I swear to god
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/12/2007 4:30:53 PM | message detail
After the first hour, Mudkip dropped by less than a percent. Luigi and Ganon better not be down too much at the end of the first hour, or they're screwed.
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swirIdude | Posted 10/12/2007 4:31:45 PM | message detail
Well, this will surely be a quiet Stats topic...
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Ngamer64 | Posted 10/12/2007 4:34:23 PM | message detail
Ah, finally a return to the good old 2002 days, when we would go a whole month in a single stats topic. Thanks BT! Thanks ignore system!

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consolefreak | Posted 10/12/2007 4:35:07 PM | message detail
That number has to be very low compared to overall traffic though, and then how many of those people will both vote and have their vote affected? This really seems to be grasping at straws level. I think Dante hurting Ada more for whatever reason is a more reasonable thing.

Oh trust me, I never had the illusion that it would be a big part of overall traffic, but it's better than nothing, like last match. He only needs to make up 6%.

PS2 ~= 650K
GCN ~= 1M
Wii ~= 450K

In America. I'd definitely see that most of it is Nintendo. Moreso the Balthier, anyway.

And company SFF doesn't really matter that much unless they actually share a fanbase.


Right. PS2 worldwide sales are in first, but you're right in that only NA matters. The GC didn't have Ada playable though. But yeah, mostly Nintendo here. It's more likely that Dante takes more votes from Balthier, but it could go the other way. Or maybe Ada just crumbles against any real competition, like against Samus last year.


I definitely consider Ada the favourite here, it's just that Balthier can pull it off. Too bad he looks like a total dorkass in that pic.


BT's point about if Link was here difference might only be 3 points is good, but I still don't see any reason for Link to hurt Crono more than he does Zero.

Neither do I, but he doesn't have to -- Crono's hurting Vincent and vice versa. Zero definitely stands a chance.


I'll post in this for awhile...but if another one is made pretty soon, I'm going to that one instead -- I really don't think this one will get much participation.....

That would be utterly ridiculous, though. As is putting anyone on the ignore list, but whatever.

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smitelf | Posted 10/12/2007 4:38:35 PM | message detail
After the first hour, Mudkip dropped by less than a percent. Luigi and Ganon better not be down too much at the end of the first hour, or they're screwed.

A Mudkip win would be hilarious. Bidoof was just disruptive and annoying, but Mudkip could actually unseat Luigi.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2007 4:45:28 PM | message detail
I've been tempted with the ignore-list, and I don't blame anybody who does use it. If BT or anybody else has made that many of the long-time stats members mad enough to the point where they block them and can't easily find their topic (on a test-run, you can't even search for it...you have to specifically be linked), then I don't blame anybody who wants to be in a different topic. BT making CS&D topics isn't a popular thing, and BT is generally even less so...

...just saying, if BT's made that many people mad (and I'm done defending him after he snapped at me about Pikachu's match with no reason, myself) where he gets blocked by possibly the majority of the stat-regulars, why should they have to go through more difficult means to find the topics they've always come to because the black sheep of the topics wanted to make another thread? If that many people have blocked him, maybe that's the best sign yet that he shouldn't make them.


I don't mean to be elitist about how makes the topics, but if it prevents the general crowd from coming into each topic like usual then BT's topics aren't ones to get priority anymore, even if it is the legitimate next topic.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/12/2007 4:45:38 PM | message detail
Theoretically........The Noble Nine vs. Every Other Video Game Character in this format (voters vote for one character). Does the combined total of the NN characters break 50%?
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2007 4:47:17 PM | message detail
...No?
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 10/12/2007 4:48:01 PM | message detail
...Yes?
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Merc25 | Posted 10/12/2007 4:50:12 PM | message detail
so which, if any, noble niner will fall?
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2007 4:52:05 PM | message detail
Crono is the most likely Noble Niner to fail. Sonic is possible too, though SSBB just gave him a huge safety net. Anybody else, and you're talking about a bunch of malarkey!
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 10/12/2007 4:55:57 PM | message detail
I'm sorry, but Sonic falling is almost impossible now. As much as it displeases me to say this, Crono is the most possible now.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2007 4:56:22 PM | message detail
The only ones that can fall are Sonic and Crono. Their main threats come from Zero/Vincent and Squall (assuming Squall can get out of that division).

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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2007 4:57:54 PM | message detail
Master Chief is the only character with the potential to defeat Sonic.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/12/2007 5:02:38 PM | message detail
MC is the only one who can take down Sonic in my mind... I'm not on that train, but aside from Crono, that's your best bet.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2007 5:04:13 PM | message detail
If Squall is = Vincent like all signs show, and Sonic is indeed crippled by the 4-way polls, Squall has a very good shot. Certainly better than MC's.

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141/184 in the contest. Next pick: Crono > Zero
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Keno316 | Posted 10/12/2007 5:07:15 PM | message detail
I'm sorry, but Sonic falling is almost impossible now. As much as it displeases me to say this, Crono is the most possible now.


Sonic has REALLY been hindered in this format. And I honestly don't think the SSBB announcement will do much for him. Certainly nothing at the level Snake got, at least. Until we see how he performs this round, and can wage if he does a little better or is still struggling...til then, the upset is still out in the open.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/12/2007 5:08:00 PM | message detail
There's only been one sign ever that Squall = Vincent.

And Ganon has a good chance at taking down Sonic too, especially if he can SFF Sonic's Brawl boost away, like Samus did.
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janembaman | Posted 10/12/2007 5:10:38 PM | message detail
So..can someone post the percentages per hour?
It's look like Zero is dominating
HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2007 5:11:21 PM | message detail
There's only been one sign ever that Squall = Vincent.

Which was a head-to-head match. They weren't so far apart last year statistically, either.


As for Squall > Sonic...if he can beat out Sub-Zero's great performance with either Aeris or Sora in the poll AND Sonic doesn't boost much from the SSBB announcement, then he's got a good chance. As is though, I still like MC's chances better.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2007 5:13:33 PM | message detail
Sonic's Brawl boost?

You really think that announcement will make a difference? Everybody knew he would make the roster.

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141/184 in the contest. Next pick: Crono > Zero
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janembaman | Posted 10/12/2007 5:16:41 PM | message detail
So Crono has less than 37% now..and soon the lead will be less than 5000
Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/12/2007 5:17:31 PM | message detail
Which was a head-to-head match. They weren't so far apart last year statistically, either.

That match suggested that Knuckles/Magus ~= Dante. I'm not so sure I believe that anymore.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2007 5:18:09 PM | message detail
Way to unimpress, Cornflakes.
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TexasAggie | Posted 10/12/2007 5:18:32 PM | message detail
I think crono and sonic both fall.

btw, what is it youve been arguing since last year bT?
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