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voltch | Posted 10/11/2007 12:11:58 PM | message detail
*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19


*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/


*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html


*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm


*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php


*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 10 Lists:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2002stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2003stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july2006stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2006stats.htm

RPguy's Hourly Poll Updates:
www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/contest.html

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://adamrose.mit.edu/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10

Manual Poll Updater:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/pollupdate.php
Ed Bellis | Posted 10/11/2007 12:12:20 PM | message detail
WHERE IS QUOTE
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This was KING BELLIS LOL
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/11/2007 12:13:23 PM | message detail
voltch is too professional for such silliness.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/11/2007 1:42:49 PM | message detail
Round 2- Division 4 Semifinal B

Previous Matches:


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2877
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2878

Characters Involved:

Crono

He didn't do too bad last round, but Raiden looking like fodder really doesn't help him in the upcoming debateable round 3 matchup. Not only that, but Frog and Magus both bombed.

Raiden

One of the most disappointing performances last round, Raiden went out and proved that he deserved to be excluded from the bracket for 3 years. What a jobber.

Zero

The pinaccle of video game badassery, Zero did "as expected" last round. He needs to kick it up a notch to be able to take advantage of the Vincent/Crono split to advance to round 4. Other than that, he's a lock for second today.

HK-47

The other pinaccle of gaming badassery, HK had an impressive first round victory over some other jobber Tales character.

Predictions:

Another seemingly boring match, but unlike Link's match, we might be able to get something out of this match. First of all, it will give us a decent read on just how much Raiden sucks since Zero seems like a more reliable measuring stick than anybody in Crono's fourpack. Secondly, I'll be able to see if my Zero upset has a chance of happening. He needs to put big numbers up on Crono, but I have faith.

Finally, we'll get to see if Crono has dropped along with his cast mates, into the realm where Vincent could beat him. Crono's head is on the chopping block right now, and is currently the most likely Noble Niner to go down next time we have a normal character battle. Barring any big realeases of course.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Crono 37%, Zero 34%, HK-47 15%, Raiden 14%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Crono > Zero
TuRtLe's Vote: ZERO

TuRtLe
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/11/2007 1:43:46 PM | message detail
VOLTCH'D
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Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package.
creativename | Posted 10/11/2007 1:46:38 PM | message detail
voltch is too professional for such silliness.

Best stats topic creating ever.

A new standard for future generations.
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ZFS | Posted 10/11/2007 2:24:19 PM | message detail
aww yeah voltch

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HotPoontang | Posted 10/11/2007 2:25:15 PM | message detail
HANG'D AND VOLTCH'D UP.

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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/11/2007 2:25:33 PM | message detail
So how much does Raiden beat Crono by?

...Whoops. Meant Zero. I must have mixed up Rounds 2 and 3. X_X
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BesaidGuy | Posted 10/11/2007 2:26:33 PM | message detail
Great 500 post I must say.


Also, Zero with 34%. . . . HAHAHAHAHA

BT you are funny.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/11/2007 2:26:33 PM | message detail
VOLTCH'D

I can't think of a topic I'm more tired of than "what if (x) is in Brawl????"
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2007 2:26:34 PM | message detail
This is going to be a good stats topic.

mmm mmm
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Link/Bidoof/Vincent/Zelda - Bracket: Link > Vincent - Vote: Link (147/176)
ZFS | Posted 10/11/2007 2:28:21 PM | message detail
what if cloud is in brawl tran

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Draco1214 | Posted 10/11/2007 2:28:34 PM | message detail
I have a feeling Zero's going to bomb tomorrow. I mean, the guy couldn't break 40% on the likes of HK-47, Lloyd Irving, and Jak.
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HotPoontang | Posted 10/11/2007 2:29:04 PM | message detail
what if yuri is in brawl

it sucks

ahahhahaha

i mean samus kills him

ahahahhaha
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trannyscience | Posted 10/11/2007 2:29:40 PM | message detail
Yuri still loses with 12%

though he'd be top-tier and would be godslayin'
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/11/2007 2:29:51 PM | message detail
what if bidoof was in brawl.
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ZFS | Posted 10/11/2007 2:30:21 PM | message detail
yuri in brawl would make it game of the forever

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trannyscience | Posted 10/11/2007 2:30:25 PM | message detail
there goes my purchase
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HotPoontang | Posted 10/11/2007 2:30:50 PM | message detail
sc2k8 champ
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trannyscience | Posted 10/11/2007 2:31:03 PM | message detail
if Yuri was in Brawl, I'd taunt people until I lost every time just for the "bite me".
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2007 3:30:47 PM | message detail
So I found out Brawl was delayed and I was like "NOOOO AUGH WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN MEEEEEEEE"

Then I found out it's going to be released on my birthday, and I was like "aww yeah day 1 gift confirmed"
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Link/Bidoof/Vincent/Zelda - Bracket: Link > Vincent - Vote: Link (147/176)
creativename | Posted 10/11/2007 3:35:42 PM | message detail
what if cloud is in brawl tran

He'd SFF Link into the ground.

what if bidoof was in brawl.

Sales minus 1 million.


What if Darth Vader was in Brawl. Would anybody ever even use another character?
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/11/2007 3:56:51 PM | message detail
I hope Dick Van Dyke is in SSBB.
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Mumei | Posted 10/11/2007 4:18:57 PM | message detail
Is 51% possible at this point?

Also, hourly poll updates, plz.

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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 10/11/2007 4:42:36 PM | message detail
Link should clear 51% fairly easily. 52% might be out of reach though.
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HotPoontang | Posted 10/11/2007 5:55:05 PM | message detail
So I found out Brawl was delayed and I was like "NOOOO AUGH WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN MEEEEEEEE"

Then I found out it's going to be released on my birthday, and I was like "aww yeah day 1 gift confirmed"


^5 moltar imho. except 4 days before but thats just as good so whatever.

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therealmnm | Posted 10/11/2007 6:03:16 PM | message detail
What if Darth Vader was in Brawl. Would anybody ever even use another character?

B: Force Choke
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HotPoontang | Posted 10/11/2007 6:04:15 PM | message detail
I'd only approve Vader if his taunt was NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/11/2007 6:08:22 PM | message detail
Link finally hits 51%!
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/11/2007 7:08:17 PM | message detail
Vincent currently has 35.12% of the Link/Vincent votes. Giving 80% of the Zelda votes to Link and splitting the rest proportionally to Vincent and Bidoof gives Vincent 33.37%. King Morgoth's formula gives Vincent roughly 33.9% on Link ignoring Link/Zelda SFF.
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Character Battle VI -- Points: 119/176 -- T-1244 (234 way)
Bracket: Link > Vincent -- Vote: Link
ZFS | Posted 10/11/2007 7:19:21 PM | message detail
What was Vincent projected to get last year on Link, again?

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/11/2007 7:21:14 PM | message detail
32.92% apparently
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/11/2007 7:24:18 PM | message detail
Vincent's projected to get 32.61% in 2005. Lol xstats has him at 32.92% last year, but Link's only one on one match was against Cloud, so I wouldn't take much from that figure.
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Character Battle VI -- Points: 119/176 -- T-1244 (234 way)
Bracket: Link > Vincent -- Vote: Link
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/11/2007 7:26:06 PM | message detail
Well if you don't want to use 2006 Link then you can just compare 2006 Vincent with 2005 Link. 2006 Vincent seemed pretty obviously stronger to me than in 2005. In that case Vincent gets 33.99%
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ZFS | Posted 10/11/2007 7:26:52 PM | message detail
Ah, looks like this is pretty much right on with what the stats would say. Good stuff.

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/11/2007 7:44:04 PM | message detail
Match XL: Crono vs Raiden vs Zero vs HK-47

Past Matches

Round 1

Crono - 48.18%
Raiden - 20.15%
Sam Fisher - 19.86%
Simon Belmont - 11.81%

Zero - 39.56%
HK-47 - 21.30%
Lloyd Irving - 20.22%
Jak - 18.92%

Analysis

Well I’m going to a wedding and will be traveling and unable to access a computer. If everything goes well I’ll probably be able to see a few hours of this match and the last couple of hours of the MC/Yuna/LS/Alucard match. At least I’m back for the interesting matches though I did want to see how Mudkip would hold up against Ganondorf and Luigi. I’ll be posting three analyses for the matches I’ll be missing and hopefully I’ll be here to post the analysis for the Dante/Ammy/Ada/Balthier match

Last round we saw Crono failing to break 50% in his match though looking at his opponents and knowing that he’s one of the weakest Noble 9 it wasn’t a bad performance. Raiden on the other hand was overestimated by the board and is only slightly stronger than Sam though Sam did have reason to increase since 2k5. With the exception of Lloyd the Zero/HK-47/Lloyd/Jak match was almost perfectly predicted by the x-stats. This however looks bad for Zero since it means that his 2k6 number stands.

Crono will take first and Zero will be the first test on whether or not he has what it takes to beat Vincent last round. In 2k5 Crono beat him 55/45 and that was about a week AC came out. Last year using Sonic Crono is now expected to beat Vincent 51/49 and with the performances of Frog and Magus things already don’t look good for Crono. Using 2k6 Crono is expected to beat Zero 63/37. That seems a little too high for Crono to get, but if he does match it it’ll turn Crono/Vincent into a toss-up again.

Zero will take second though if he wants and outside chance at upsetting Crono next round he better put up some good numbers in this match. Like I said before last round Zero and about everyone else in his match performed exactly what the x-stats wanted him to and since that would mean that he’s still at his 2k6 value so if he does somehow upsets Crono next round it’ll be because Crono is weak and Vincent would probably have taken second.

While Raiden didn’t perform up to expectations of the board I still think he will take third in this match. Right now using Sub-Zero adjusted Sam Fisher Raiden and HK-47 are about even. However Sam Fisher did have reason to boost since his last appearance so Raiden should be the favorite going in the match.

Crono first and Zero second and like last match both of these characters have something to prove meaning next round we’ll be seeing an epic match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Crono > Zero

charmander6000’s Prediction: Crono - 38.42%, Zero - 29.88%, Raiden - 16.80%, HK-47 - 14.90%
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Match 39: Link > Vincent Points: 121/176
charmander6000 | Posted 10/11/2007 7:44:52 PM | message detail
Match XLI: Luigi vs Mudkip vs Ganondorf vs Vergil

Past Matches

Round 1

Luigi - 45.96%
Mudkip - 27.71%
Pit - 18.72%
Tingle - 7.62%

Ganondorf - 49.10%
Vergil - 19.37%
Thrall - 16.91%
Ratchet - 14.61%

Analysis

Three Nintendo characters and Vergil; how did all the Nintendo characters get stuck going up against each other? Last round we saw Luigi dominate the all Nintendo match with Mudkip seeming not to be phased by SFF takes second. Ganondorf got the second highest percent done by a non-Noble Nine character while Vergil was able to scrounged up enough votes to put him in second.

Ganondorf takes first. While he totally collapsed in his SFF match against Link Ganondorf has two things going for him, his opponents aren’t from the Zelda series and his opponents are also weaker than he is. The question becomes on whether Ganondorf SFF Luigi or if they both split the vote. I’d rather that they split the vote though the way Tingle performed last round it could mean that Ganondorf has the power to SFF Luigi.

Luigi will probably take second. While he may be SFF he did well enough on Mudkip that he has a big enough buffer to avoid the embarrassing defeat though looking at what has happened so far nothing is for certain. There is a slight chance that Luigi could upset, but that would pretty much require rSFF and while it has happened to an extent the Zelda series are higher on the Nintendo totem pole than Mario.

Mudkip like the other Pokemon don’t seem to be affected by Nintendo SFF and with two Nintendo characters in this poll he could benefit from it. While Luigi did beat him last round it is possible that Ganondorf could SFF Luigi so much that Mudkip has a chance against him and if Mudkip does come close to Luigi 4chan will be here to help him advance to the next round. I’ll find it sad if Mudkip does come in second in this match and while it would be funny it’ll be mark as one of the dark days of contest history.

Vergil will come in last. He’ll perform much better because of all the Nintendo characters in the poll, but I don’t think he’ll come anywhere close to beating anyone unless Pokemon decides that they want to get SFF in this match and he passes Mudkip. Vergil may be stronger than he was in the villain contest, but he’s still no match for these opponents.

Too bad I’m missing the entire match and would have to wait until the end of the next match before I can see the results. Predicting this match will be hard because of all the factors and that I’m predicting this match a day before I usually do. As much as I like Pokemon Mudkip has no business in coming close to Luigi.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Ganondorf > Luigi

charmander6000’s Prediction: Ganondorf - 37.53%, Luigi - 26.37%, Mudkip - 20.42%, Vergil - 15.68%

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Match 39: Link > Vincent Points: 121/176
charmander6000 | Posted 10/11/2007 7:45:11 PM | message detail
Match XLII: Master Chief vs Yuna vs Liquid Snake vs Alucard

Past Matches

Round 1

Master Chief - 45.69%
Yuna - 30.18%
Tommy Vercetti - 14.69%
PaRappa the Rapper - 9.44%

Liquid Snake - 27.787%
Alucard - 27.785%
Ness - 25.42%
Zidane - 19.01%

Analysis

Out of all the matches of the second round this one is pretty much a lock for a second place winner to make it to the next round. Master Chief was able to flex his muscles and destroyed any hope for a Yuna upset just days before the release of Halo 3; is he a Noble Nine breaker or will Vincent beat him to the punch? Liquid and Alucard had a hard fought battle and just when Alucard took the lead at the end of the poll Liquid came back and was able to win with the slimiest lead ever.

Master Chief will take first; his performance last round was amazing. Since last round Halo 3 has been released so there is the possibility that Master Chief may be even stronger this round. I’m not expecting to see much of a boost though since Halo 3 hype was high by the time the match started so right now Master Chief is in the middle of trading hype for actual fans of the game. Still it should be interesting to see what he’s capable of. Unless he underperforms in this match I think he might be the favorite going in the next match.

Despite Yuna’s performance last round she is the favorite to take second in this poll. Unless you think Master Chief is about as strong as Mario Yuna was overrated by the female bracket. Using her 2k5 value against Ganondorf seems to be more reasonable and she’s still way ahead of Liquid and Alucard. However a three-way fight for second would be interesting to watch since the other two characters are equal.

Last round we saw Liquid and Alucard giving it all they’ve got fighting for first, this round they’ll be fighting to avoid getting last. A lot of things have changed since their last match like there is no Nintendo character, the Square character is now stronger and an Xbox character has been added. For all we know this match might not even be close and rallying may be lower since no matter who wins they both get eliminated.

Master Chief will get first and Yuna will get second. Master Chief is in a tough section of the bracket, but if he can repeat that performance last round he may be able to walk all over these characters. Hopefully I can get back from my trip to see the ending of this match and hopefully we still have Liquid and Alucard trading blows against each other.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Master Chief > Yuna

charmander6000's Prediction: Master Chief - 38.53%, Yuna - 24.26%, Alucard - 18.61%, Liquid Snake - 18.60%

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Match 39: Link > Vincent Points: 121/176
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/11/2007 7:46:36 PM | message detail
No match pic yet. This is ridicularity
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/11/2007 7:48:59 PM | message detail
Bacon is getting the perfect Naked Raiden pic for tomorrow, which is why it's taking so long.
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Lopen | Posted 10/11/2007 7:52:13 PM | message detail
Nekkid Raiden -> Raiden with 56%. Let it happen, Baconator.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/11/2007 7:55:39 PM | message detail
But it's probably just a head shot. Kind of a waste to be naked in a head shot
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/11/2007 8:22:42 PM | message detail
*facepalm*

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/cb6/cb6-40.jpg

Thanks a lot, Bacon.
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ZFS | Posted 10/11/2007 8:23:10 PM | message detail
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what is that

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2007 8:23:16 PM | message detail
Division 4: Round 2 - Match 40 – Crono vs. Raiden vs. Zero vs. HK-47

Moltar’s Analysis

Crono
Round 1 – 48.18% vs. Raiden, Sam and Simon

Crono does decently…for a Noble Niner.

Raiden
Round 1 – 20.15% vs. Crono, Sam and Simon

Nearly losing to Sam? This is the Raiden we wanted back?

Zero
Round 1 – 39.56% vs. HK-47, Lloyd and Jak

Couldn’t break 40%, huh?

HK-47
Round 1 – 21.30% vs. Zero, Lloyd and Jak

Take that, Lloyd and Jak you meatbags.

Well, this one is surely uninteresting. Not only do we have a predictable character to take first, but also a clear-cut second place character too!

First up, there’s Crono. He performed decently in Round 1. Nothing to make us say wow, or nothing to laugh at him for either. With Zero and HK-47 in the poll, he’ll definitely lose percent, but he’ll still clearly rule over the rest.

So who takes second? HK-47? Nope, Raiden? Tiny, tiny chance, but not likely. Zero? Yeah, that sounds about right. Zero didn’t look too impressive last round, so I doubt he does much here as well.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Crono > Zero

Moltar’s Prediction is: Crono: 43% - Zero: 25% - Raiden: 17% - HK-47: 15%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

This one should end up being a pretty dull affair. Raiden could kinda maybe sorta surprise, but I would doubt it. The best thing to keep an eye on with this one is Crono’s percentage, and the rough comparison we’ll be able to make between Vincent’s performance this round and last round. Judging from yesterday’s match, Vincent hasn’t lost a step, and is looking like he should right now. Given what we’ve seen of Chrono Trigger so far, it’s up to Crono to impress here.

Crono should come away looking pretty decent in this match. I think his percentage will be comparable to Vincent’s last round, and against competition that lines up fairly well, too. Then again, if Magus was any indication of what has happened to CT lately, and particularly in this format, Crono could end up “bombing.”

But yeah, I’m expecting this one to follow expectations – Crono wins easy; Zero takes a distant second; Raiden in third; HK-47 bringing up in the rear. Next!

Crono – 40%
Zero – 25%
Raiden – 20%
HK-47 – 15%


Bracket: Crono > Zero
Vote: Crono


Yoblazer’s Analysis

I'm terribly pressed for time, so this will be short. Crono is the obvious winner, and unless Raiden pulls off some sort of miracle, Zero is the obvious second place finisher. The only question here is how well each one does, or, if you're into the upset that will never happen, how close Zero can get to the Noble 9er. Personally, I don't think it will be terribly close. Zero's fourpack last round featured two relatively cult RPG characters and a platform star no one gives a crap about, yet he was unable to get 40%. Now we're replacing those bumps and throwing Crono in their place. Thus, I think Zero's percentage will look a bit ugly. It's a pretty boring match, with the only excitement generated by our own discussions.

Crono - 38%
Zero - 28%
Raiden - 17%
HK-47 - 17%
Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2007 8:23:31 PM | message detail
Lopen’s Analysis

<<INCOMING CALL>>
Marle: Take me to the Millennial Fair, Raiden!
Raiden: Not a chance!
Marle: But... but... *giggle* I wanna go! Fine! Could you hold onto my pendant while I'm gone then!
Raiden: Why don't you do it?
Marle: Because I might drop it!
Raiden: WHATEVER! *hangs up*

<<INCOMING CALL>>
Marle: *giggle* Statement: Hello!~
Raiden: ...
Marle: Get it? It was my--
Raiden: Yes, I get it, now stop using this line! *hangs up*

<<INCOMING CALL>>
...
<<INCOMING CALL>>
...
<<INCOMING CALL>>
Marle: Hi, Raid---*GUGH!*

Cartwheel to the face. Aw yeah. Game over, Marle, game over.

Now as for the moral of the story... just know this: If Marle was the one who saved your game? Man, Rose would be worshipped in several countries. Hailed as that goddess of less annoyance from MGS2. Less annoyance... strong domain for a goddess to have, that one.

This match? Well, Crono's a bit out of his reach, but Raiden's a lock for second here, I mean let's look at this: Raiden was screwed by the less recognizable picture last round. Sam Fisher split a lot of Raiden's stealth fanbase. MGS2: Substance = on X-Box = Halo 3 boost. Crono old school SFFs Zero. Zero sword SFFed Lloyd Irving and is even weaker than he looked. Raiden will in turn sword-n-gunz SFF Zero. HK-47 continues to leech the robot vote.

Clearly, that makes the match result:

Lopen's prediction:
Crono - 36.11%
Raiden - 25.45%
Zero - 25.12% (HI HO CHEROKEE THE BLACK HORSE GOES DOWN!)
HK-47 - 13.32%

In all seriousness, I do think Raiden has the chance to upset here should he get a different recognizable pic (which still isn't up!) looking at how radically MGS characters seem to be affected by them, and at what a lukewarm display Zero put up last round (for those unnameless making claims of Zero not disappointing... such claims require Lloyd Irving at like 22% on Base Link... nuh uh). And I wasn't entirely kidding when I said Crono old school SFFs Zero... I do think there's a slight potential for weirdness there. Now... is it a good chance for Raiden to win?

YOU BET YOUR LA-LI-LU-LE-LO IT IS. KILL, RAIDEN, KILL!



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

Short one tonight, folks. I BET YOU'RE SHOCKED

Crono

Crono does around expectations last round, maybe a lil' worse - and considering what we've seen out of CT this contest, that's a goddamn miracle.

Raiden

Raiden disappoints and nearly loses to Fisher, but moves on. People blamed the MGS4 picture. Will he get an MGS2 one this round and impress? I doubt both, but we'll see.

Zero

Zero disappoints last round and gives the BT-hating world reason to rejoice. Not that his path wasn't cut-and-dry as well, but could something AMAZING and AWESOME happen to upend him here?

(no, but it's nice to insult him all the same)

HK-47

The best character in this match made a pretty nice upset last round to advance here, proving he was legit in more ways than one to overcome his threepack of suck. WOO HK

So, yeah, I'd take any upset happening here, but I see nothing really materializing. Though if it did it would be hilarious!

...yeah. Raiden getting a MGS2 picture is about the most extreme thing that can happen here, and that's if you're a BIG believer in the disparity ( i.e. MGS4 Raiden: MGS2 Raiden :: old BB pic: Naked Snake pic).
HotPoontang | Posted 10/11/2007 8:23:31 PM | message detail
Any chance Raiden might have had is completely blown out the ass with that pic.

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2007 8:24:20 PM | message detail
Other than that, no. suck Zero suck

Karma Hunter's Vote: HK-47 argh goddammit he needs to WIN
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Crono with 37%, Zero with 28%, Raiden with 19%, HK-47 with 16%

Upset Probability: 100%

You know the drill.



Transience’s Analysis

one pokemon down two to go

this match should be fairly predictable and boring. Crono's a good amount above Zero, Zero *should* be a good amount above Raiden, and Raiden's probably fighting with HK for third unless that MGS4 picture was huge. there's really not too much we can say here, as the main purpose of this match will be to compare Crono to Vincent. after Magus's pathetic bomb a couple of days ago and Frog getting Axel'd, the Vincent > Crono bandwagon has gotten really loud, and rightly so.

it's tough to say what's impressing and what's not, though. I mean, I think Link is looking just fine today, but some people think this is the beginning of the end for him. nearly doubling Vincent with Zelda sucking up a small percentage of his votes? that's pretty damn good. I think people think Link is some kind of god that's going to kill everything with 677% of the vote or something. and to see him under 50% is making them realize how stupid their expectations are.

uhh, anyway, back to Crono. I'd say that if he clears 40% here, he remains the favourite in the match with Vincent. that's a tall order though, given three unique fanbases and one character that *should* have some decent strength in this format, Zero. Zero didn't look all that good in his round 1 match, failing to pull 40% on three pieces of upper level fodder. I think he'll look a little bit better here, but I'm not seeing the Zero over Crono/Vincent hype at all to this point. I thought it had a small chance pre-contest, but right now it looks next to impossible given that Link will be in the poll with them.

gotta match Vincent
Crono needs to step it up
show he's not old news

transience's prediction: Crono with 38.99%, Zero with 27.34%, Raiden with 17.87%, HK-47 with 15.80%



Crew Consensus: Crono > Zero, WHAT ARE WE WRITING FOOOOOOOR????
FFDragon | Posted 10/11/2007 8:24:49 PM | message detail
Oh god, Raiden looks f'ing horrible.
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