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creativename | Posted 10/10/2007 9:43:01 PM | message detail
Explain your reasoning.

If you're talking about the cheating scale estimate, I don't remember what the data was actually. But I remember it being fairly clear-cut, though my estimate was a wide range. And what happened the rest of the day basically confirmed it of course, as Bidoof was way worse.

If you're talking about running out of proxies, I think there's a practical limit of maybe 4K or so votes than can be proxy stuffed in a match. Though I don't actually recall why I thought that, it's just something I remember from years ago from somewhere.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 10/10/2007 9:43:01 PM | message detail
Raiden vs Zero is going to be so good.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/10/2007 9:43:07 PM | message detail
From __hiei__ Posted 10/11/2007 12:42:26 AM #097
I wonder if tanner would beat Zelda if he was in that poll.

...No?
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/10/2007 9:44:03 PM | message detail
BIDOOF is still leading?

what?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 9:45:06 PM | message detail
From Tequilla Gundam
Raiden vs Zero is going to be so good.

Indeed. It will be greatly satisfying to see Zero beat the complete and utter crap out of that tool Raiden.

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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/10/2007 9:45:33 PM | message detail
...That cut was not nearly big enough for my tastes.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/10/2007 9:45:37 PM | message detail
That sun of a gun is making a run at one hour.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/10/2007 9:45:47 PM | message detail
Bidoof is fighting to keep the lead for a full hour!
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swirIdude | Posted 10/10/2007 9:45:50 PM | message detail
Bidoof is making Phoenix Wright's achievement a joke.
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FFDragon | Posted 10/10/2007 9:45:50 PM | message detail
Doof wants to lead for the whole first hour.
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/10/2007 9:46:46 PM | message detail
I like how Link goes up while Zelda goes down.
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ZFS | Posted 10/10/2007 9:47:09 PM | message detail
Man, Bidoof, get outta here. You had your little run!

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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/10/2007 9:47:19 PM | message detail
Looks like Zelda is playing a killer game of limbo.

...

Yummers.
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swirIdude | Posted 10/10/2007 9:47:50 PM | message detail
Peach is in the olympics, I'm sure she limbos better than Zelda.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/10/2007 9:48:02 PM | message detail
augh i can't believe i'm actually cheering for vincent :(
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 9:48:41 PM | message detail
(the stats topic is so weird to read when half of what I see are reactions to what I can't see!)

Bidoof leading? Blah blah travesty and whatnot, but Vincent is turning it around here. I'd like to know what kind of protections are even in place to stop stuffing, if any (then again, so would many prospective stuffers I bet). Considering the 'hands-free' attitude Bacon has taken with this contest and the fact that we get just about zero feedback in the closest of affairs - THE closest of affairs this contest, heh... it leaves me feeling a bit bereft.

That being said, the exact same thing was said last round, and Bidoof is doing the same thing except Edgeworth/Agent J have been replaced with Vincent/SFFed Zelda... and I don't think the answer lies in any kind of Vincent weakness or whatever some transparent arguments may be trying to debate. Part of that is that Bidoof has a *much* closer fight for second, of course... but the rest is simply speculation. If the power of 4chan is so potent, what stops it from upending Link?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 9:49:06 PM | message detail
Then stop cheering for Vincent, remove the rod from your rectum and back the Doofmeister.

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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/10/2007 9:50:14 PM | message detail
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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 9:50:34 PM | message detail
well, you'd need someone they'd rally behind in full force. I think 4chan's goal is to make this contest a sham, so they rally Bidoof harder than anything else. I highly doubt they'll go crazy for anything else unless L or Mudkip advance.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 9:50:49 PM | message detail
4chan isn't potent. We've already established that the votals for this match are lower than the last match.

Besides, 4chan would only support dethroning Link if it was something funny doing the dethroning.

Meaning they wouldn't touch a Link/Cloud match.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 9:51:23 PM | message detail
But it feels good having my wang in my mouth =(

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/10/2007 9:51:27 PM | message detail
VV's finally coming back. >_>

It would've sucked to be eliminated in the guru because of Bidoof > Vincent.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/10/2007 9:52:02 PM | message detail
Glad to hear you're taking on the task yourself, lord knows no one else will.

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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 9:52:16 PM | message detail
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 9:52:22 PM | message detail
im so lonely =(

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paraboxx | Posted 10/10/2007 9:52:30 PM | message detail
Why can't you see the poll results, KH?
creativename | Posted 10/10/2007 9:52:38 PM | message detail
I don't really understand why anybody would waste their time trying to stuff for Bidoof in a match he can't win. I mean, that's like, actual effort right? Such a waste.

Not that this is definitely stuffing, but it seems likely that at least a few hundred of these votes are stuffed. That's what's keeping both Link and Vincent deflated (Zelda is so low it doesn't affect her much).

Link isn't looking worse than Vincent, but he is looking about as bad. That's why I'm not overly concerned for Vincent. They'll both do well in the day. Vincent's not going to look great here, as 30% seems out of the question. But he'll end up fine relative to Link.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/10/2007 9:53:05 PM | message detail
We've already established that the votals for this match are lower than the last match.

By much lower I assume you mean about the same.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 9:53:21 PM | message detail
he means that he's got some people on his ignore list. so do I, and it makes the reactions awesome.
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smitelf | Posted 10/10/2007 9:53:50 PM | message detail
On the plus side, at least Zelda is sucking as I thought she would. Vincent's disappointing me, was expecting ~34% for him, that's not happening.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/10/2007 9:54:18 PM | message detail
Yeah, Vincent won't get 30, but Link sure as heck won't get 50. Bidoof only has so much percentage to give around. The fact that he'll almost assuredly keep Zelda under 8% is pretty good, though.
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swirIdude | Posted 10/10/2007 9:54:19 PM | message detail
I have several blacked out posts via GameFOX. But it's not noticeable to me because it's been this way for a long time.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 9:54:19 PM | message detail
err let's try this again

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2901&num=2
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/10/2007 9:54:55 PM | message detail
It's usually obvious who the reaction is directed against, or else it would be even more fun.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 9:55:22 PM | message detail
But creative, they don't follow the contests like we do. Last round they tried to get him over Link. They see this match as a possibility for him to advance again.

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paraboxx | Posted 10/10/2007 9:55:37 PM | message detail
Oh, right. The Ignore feature.

*rolls eyes*

(*is probably getting Ignored for this*)
trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 9:55:37 PM | message detail
go for the one-hour lead, 'doof

...and then never get another vote
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swirIdude | Posted 10/10/2007 9:56:01 PM | message detail
*invisible post*

Next 5 posts:

YOU IDIOT!
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FFDragon | Posted 10/10/2007 9:56:04 PM | message detail
Bidoof Power Hour CONFIRMED
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 9:56:04 PM | message detail
36% on Link?

Bidoof to bomb next year confirmed!

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creativename | Posted 10/10/2007 9:56:14 PM | message detail
Considering the 'hands-free' attitude Bacon has taken with this contest and the fact that we get just about zero feedback in the closest of affairs - THE closest of affairs this contest, heh... it leaves me feeling a bit bereft.

Yeah, this is an "anything goes" contest basically.

If the power of 4chan is so potent, what stops it from upending Link?

Because the volume of votes they can muster only shows up as lot while cumulative vote totals are still low.
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 10/10/2007 9:56:25 PM | message detail
I don't see why anyone thought Vincent could get that high in this match. He got 38% against Zelda, Miles and The Boss. Now you're throwing ****ing Link into the mix. I gave Vincent 30% myself, and I thought that was being hopeful.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 9:57:24 PM | message detail
I just thought that Bidoof would get hurt by the presence of actual strength here, but apparently it's as many have speculated - in a format like this, joke character percentage seems to be rather untouchable once you hit a certain point. Put Bidoof in a one-on-one against Link in the beginning of this contest and he likely amounts to little more than a Nidoran F.

Now with that out of the way - Zelda is getting annihilated. No way I buy into any argument that she's hurting Link here, and if anything she may only be helping. She'd lose to Speck of Dust at this rate, and how.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 9:57:51 PM | message detail
SFF hurts everyone but the uninvolved character (in this case Vincent). The only problem with that is Bidoof isn't getting SFF'd

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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/10/2007 9:58:10 PM | message detail
Vincent and Link won't get 30 and 50? Sorry yo, I disagree. Bidoof will probably drop like a rock throughout the day.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/10/2007 9:58:21 PM | message detail
Speck of Dust > Bidoof
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smitelf | Posted 10/10/2007 9:58:40 PM | message detail
From Gyrating*randma
I don't see why anyone thought Vincent could get that high in this match. He got 38% against Zelda, Miles and The Boss. Now you're throwing ****ing Link into the mix. I gave Vincent 30% myself, and I thought that was being hopeful.

SFF. But Bidoof is throwing the curve on that.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/10/2007 9:59:20 PM | message detail
Adjustment to my statement, maybe Vincent won't get 30%, but he should get close.
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smitelf | Posted 10/10/2007 10:00:22 PM | message detail
Link still has a shot at getting 50%. Vincent also has a good chance of hitting 30%. Bidoof will shed 12-15% throughout the day.
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Keno316 | Posted 10/10/2007 10:00:32 PM | message detail
Now with that out of the way - Zelda is getting annihilated. No way I buy into any argument that she's hurting Link here, and if anything she may only be helping. She'd lose to Speck of Dust at this rate, and how.


Yeah. And Link is not looking so hot either right now, but Zelda is hardly the cost of being held back. Right now its looking like ****ing Bidoof is the one LFFing Link....UGH!
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