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creativename | Posted 10/10/2007 2:18:18 PM | message detail
Looks like Midna LFF probably hurt Samus too. Makes her look somewhat better than before.

I don't think so actually.


Yeah. For the DS, IIRC.

Wow. What's it called?

Snake was looking much better in 2k5, though. And 2k6 was Sonic's best year ever.

Yeah, I guess it wasn't quite the darkest time for Snake, but he certainly didn't look like he could challenge the other powers until the Brawl thing. Getting smacked around by Mega was about the best he could hope for :)

Also Sonic was stronger (relative to other characters) in 2K2 than in 2K6 I think, though of course 2K2 is more different than any other year.

This was Sonic's darkest time though, with how Shadow and Knuckles have done and how Sub-Zero did on him.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 2:21:16 PM | message detail
and I've always thought of Tidus as a bit of a fraud. 2002 is just, as creative said, different. 2003 was Square's year -- put Vivi in his spot and I think he might have beaten Magus. I really wish Vivi was in 2k3 because he could have been a beast with that massive Square boost. I think that's more a demographic shift than "KHF", though KH obviously had a big effect too.
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/10/2007 2:21:17 PM | message detail
Okay, good point. Mario is looking worse in relation to Big Boss, but keep in mind Mario is managing 46-47% by the end, despite Big Boss obviously overperforming by a huge amount. If Big Boss had his R1 picture Mario would probably have 49% of the vote, only 8% short of last round... thing is, Wander and SFFed Pac-Man are replaced by Magus and Phoenix Wright.

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Haste_2 | Posted 10/10/2007 2:23:13 PM | message detail
But now that I mention Magus and Phoenix Wright... ha.

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 2:24:32 PM | message detail
I think that's more a demographic shift than "KHF", though KH obviously had a big effect too.

Obviously NOT! Seriously I never will understand why KHF was so accepted for what happened that year. It's pretty clear that 2K2 was just different. Anyway I agree with everything else you said, Tidus sucks.

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MnMZero | Posted 10/10/2007 2:24:42 PM | message detail
But now that I mention Magus and Phoenix Wright... ha.

I was about to say. Should we have been trembling in their presence or something?
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Pondos | Posted 10/10/2007 2:37:13 PM | message detail
gat
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 2:56:39 PM | message detail
You would have THOUGHT they'd be significantly better than Wander and SFFed Pac-Man!
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Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package.
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 2:58:07 PM | message detail
wander > magus next year

book it
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 2:59:37 PM | message detail
And as for the Alucard defensiveness:

Ganondorf (2003c) VS Alucard (2003c)

Ganondorf has a strength of 34.72.
Alucard has a strength of 27.56.

Ganondorf wins with 60.31% of the vote!
A win of 22,765 with 110,391 total votes cast.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1719

Even assuming Ganondorf hadn't boosted at ALL (lol TP hype) this would have set off bells if we hadn't all assumed Sephiroth overperformed on Alucard for some reason
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cyko | Posted 10/10/2007 3:00:15 PM | message detail
so, has anyone else noticed that Big Boss is the only second round character so far, to actually BEAT their first round percentage?

>_>

that AND Sonic in Brawl? this be a crazy day.

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dethfdddddh | Posted 10/10/2007 3:01:23 PM | message detail
Query: Liquid or Big Boss with Naked Snake pic?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 3:02:02 PM | message detail
Probably BB indirectly, though MGS SFF throws a monkey wrench into that.

"Naked Snake" takes it in a walk though.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/10/2007 3:02:29 PM | message detail
so, has anyone else noticed that Big Boss is the only second round character so far, to actually BEAT their first round percentage?

Sephiroth did yesterday as well.
Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/10/2007 3:02:44 PM | message detail
so, has anyone else noticed that Big Boss is the only second round character so far, to actually BEAT their first round percentage?

Sephiroth.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 3:04:32 PM | message detail
Sephiroth is my bishie

I also like how last round Big Boss scored more against Mario/Pac/Wander than he was supposed to against Mario alone.

why oh why did he get this picture my upset lacks luster now yay hindsight
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cyko | Posted 10/10/2007 3:04:46 PM | message detail
hmph. well, that's what i get for not paying as close attention as i used to. either way, i hope this match has finally silenced the match pic factor critics.

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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 3:09:07 PM | message detail
this is far from a normal circumstance, I don't think you can even compare it to most match picture arguments. the only time pictures *truly* matter is if you can't tell who it is -- in this case, it's basically an entirely different character. this isn't like Crono getting a sprite or Zelda getting that child OOT art. it's something totally unique.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 3:11:11 PM | message detail
Mostly because he's pointing at me
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Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package.
creativename | Posted 10/10/2007 3:15:59 PM | message detail
Even assuming Ganondorf hadn't boosted at ALL (lol TP hype) this would have set off bells if we hadn't all assumed Sephiroth overperformed on Alucard for some reason

I don't know what you mean by "Alucard defensiveness", or what you're actually going for here, but if you're trying to say that Alucard overperforming by 3 points means something, I would disagree. 3 points isn't much.


hmph. well, that's what i get for not paying as close attention as i used to. either way, i hope this match has finally silenced the match pic factor critics.

Solid **** pretty much decisively ended that debate years ago. And Tifa/Samus was also pretty definitive if you needed a 2nd definitive proof. There was also I Feel Asleep, yet another virtually definitive instance. And lesser things like Face CATS as well.

If people weren't convinced by those things, today's match won't convince them either.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 3:17:33 PM | message detail
If Snake/Bowser were to happen tomorrow, what would the percentages look like? I know Snake has boosted since then, but I'm still curious.

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cyko | Posted 10/10/2007 3:19:07 PM | message detail

If people weren't convinced by those things, today's match won't convince them either.


that is true. in fact, that's the most intelligent summary i've read on the matter in quite some time.

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paraboxx | Posted 10/10/2007 3:37:21 PM | message detail
Okay, Sonic has got to get a boost from this. I know the board's not a good indicator, but this news is everywhere. This thing is an event. We'll know more after his next match, of course, but for now I think he's back to being a lock for the finals...and then a lock for last place during them. (Brawlfear won't help Sonic much against Snake and Link, now, will it?)

As for today's match:
=0 Big Boss
=( Magus
XD Phoenix "Hardcore Fanbase" Wright
paraboxx | Posted 10/10/2007 3:40:03 PM | message detail
If people weren't convinced by those things, today's match won't convince them either.

Not necessarily. I know I'm convinced of it now.

But then, I'm a newbie, so I don't count anyway, heh.
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/10/2007 3:49:17 PM | message detail
Just got in.

Oh hey Sonic's in Brawl.

Oh hey Mario's doing awesome.

Oh hey, Big Boss is doing awesome.

Oh hey Magus sucks.
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ZFS | Posted 10/10/2007 4:00:22 PM | message detail
Man, Magus never seems to catch a break here -- under 18% and losing by over 7500 votes. Even with the possibility that he would have beaten Big Boss with a different picture, BB would have still kept it competitive. what

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Keno316 | Posted 10/10/2007 4:11:35 PM | message detail
Heh. At this point I seriously can't even see Magus beating Big Boss with a melting Boss pick...


He just really has been exposed and kicked to the curve over the years.
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creativename | Posted 10/10/2007 4:15:34 PM | message detail
Even with the possibility that he would have beaten Big Boss with a different picture, BB would have still kept it competitive. what

The Oracle seemed pretty evenly split before the Naked Snake picture. I considered this match a toss-up since last round. The pic made Big Boss the favorite.

X-stats wise, Magus looks like he'll finish around 20%, while in the first round Big Boss looked to be around 22%. Seems as though Big Boss would be a slight favorite if not for the picture, though of course, it's all debatable.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2007 4:19:46 PM | message detail
wow Magus

oops, i mean lol Magus

wow Big Boss! Mario also took off with the afterschool vote. Very good performance from the man in red today.
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Keno316 | Posted 10/10/2007 4:24:59 PM | message detail
Well...tomorrow's match is bound to get the hype trains going at full steam.


If Vincent does really well on Link (which is possible with Zelda and Bidoof in that poll) then the Vincent > Crono will pick full steam. And as a side effect, the Cloud > Link train will also pick up full steam.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/10/2007 4:36:26 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/cb6/cb6-39.jpg
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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 4:37:08 PM | message detail
nice hair Vince

GET BIDOOF OUT OF HERE
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/10/2007 4:37:14 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/cb6/cb6-39.jpg

>_>
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ZFS | Posted 10/10/2007 4:38:31 PM | message detail
Haha, nice picture for Vincent -- noticed him first thing.


but then i moved down a little bit and noticed bidoof's damn head poking out of the bottom of the picture why gamefaqs why

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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 4:39:02 PM | message detail
aitch emm pretty much nailed it

arghhhhhhh
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Keno316 | Posted 10/10/2007 4:39:06 PM | message detail
...Damnit! Bacon just got me to vote for Zelda!
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/10/2007 4:39:43 PM | message detail
Anyone have a good edgey pic that we can paste over that thing?
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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 4:40:11 PM | message detail
on another note, I went to the Brawl board and searched for Sonic to see how big this announcement is.

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to compare, we currently have 34 pages of topics.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/10/2007 4:41:00 PM | message detail
31 pages now... >_>
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Keno316 | Posted 10/10/2007 4:41:46 PM | message detail
And Zelda got the best pic she could have hoped for if she wants to even try to withstand the SFF vacuum across from her.


Vincent coming within 1% of Link CONFIRMED!!!
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2007 4:58:34 PM | message detail
Link and Zelda look like their related thanks to their Brawl pics.

Vincent looks crazy mad!

hey guys i'm bidoof invadin ur pic
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 5:04:49 PM | message detail
It's time for a 'doof chant.

BI-DOOF, BI-DOOF, BI-DOOF, BI-DOOF, BI-DOOF, BI-DOOF, BI-DOOF, BI-DOOF....
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trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 5:06:05 PM | message detail
i hate you
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 5:08:18 PM | message detail
BI-DOOF
BI-DOOF
BI-DOOF

sorry tranny
BI-DOOF
BI-DOOF

i cant
BI-DOOF
BI-DOOF
BI-DOOF

hear you with
BI-DOOF
BI-DOOF

all this
BI-DOOF
BI-DOOF
BI-DOOF

chanting
BI-DOOF
BI-DOOF
BI-DOOF


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swirIdude | Posted 10/10/2007 5:10:06 PM | message detail
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6365/bidoofgunpj6.png
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/10/2007 5:12:49 PM | message detail
Man does Bidoof steal the show in whatever picture hes in. Its pretty much impossible not to notice him. I fear for the Ganondorf > Mudkip upset as Mudkipz the same.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 5:15:35 PM | message detail
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4489/88558883hl9.png

THERE'S A BIDOOF IN THE LASAGNA!

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/10/2007 5:16:28 PM | message detail
why
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 5:17:16 PM | message detail
i dont know maybe hes hungry

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ZFS | Posted 10/10/2007 5:23:05 PM | message detail
dammit ec what are you doing

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