GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 515
| consolefreak | Posted 10/10/2007 11:02:04 AM | message detail |
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Crazy thoughts of a contest-newbie or possible? Doubtful. Big Boss > Pac-Man and Wander was a pretty popular call with Mario SFFing Pac-Man. On the board (according to the BOP sample), Big Boss was favoured over Pac-Man 62.67% - 37.33%. Magus was favoured over Big Boss for round 2 with 97.33% - 2.67%. The board is a small portion of all bracketeers, but it should be at least somewhat indicative. --- 120/160. Today : Sephiroth > Fox. Tomorrow : Mario > Magus *One_Winged_Ange* |
| satai_delenn | Posted 10/10/2007 11:09:44 AM | message detail |
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*comes back for the first time since last night* Hey, awesome. Big Boss is still kicking ass. Woo! In other news, I am having a chili dog for lunch in honor of Sonic. Huzzah! --- My Contest Hero: SHOULD have been Axel. Ugh. Currently playing: Aria of Sorrow, Silent Hill 2, Super Mario RPG |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 11:14:56 AM | message detail |
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im eating a wiener dog in honor of lopen --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/10/2007 11:15:44 AM | message detail |
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Magus is the same as he's always been, outside that single match
with Link he's been a character whose proud accomplishments were being
slightly above Tidus and slightly below Knuckles. We were just thrown
off by Ganondorf (and Zelda) boosting in general afterwards... I don't think so. Magus beat Ganondorf, who I really doubt was significantly weaker than Zelda at the time (why would he be?), and Zelda herself was at like 30% on BL. It was a stronger Tidus at that time, I think the same Tidus that got 42% on Sonic the previous year. Magus has just fallen since then... perhaps some between then and 2K5, but I'm certain he's also lost strength since 2K5, just like Frog seems to have weakened since 2K5. I always wondered why Sephiroth had so much more hype surrounding him than Cloud in 2002. I didn't even know who he was. >_> Sephiroth was thought to be the more popular character in SC2K2 and even all the way through SC2K3 up until the final match... in fact, if you thought Cloud was more popular you were often ridiculed. Not only that, but the "Odds" of the characters winning SC2K2 and SC2K3 were better for Sephiroth. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/10/2007 11:20:47 AM | message detail |
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So yeah yeah anyway who's nominating Big Boss for next year??? :D Just like this year, I'm nominating Naked Snake! |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 11:22:38 AM | message detail |
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I don't even know who I'd nominate if I won at this point (doubtful), I
really can't think of any new entrants worth anything, or trying to get
someone a good seed to win a match or two. Possibly PoP again, because
it's doubtful he'll even return, but I'm not exactly pumped on that
even. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| voltch | Posted 10/10/2007 11:36:13 AM | message detail |
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so which non-nintendo character would you like to see next? megaman/dante/duke nekem/cloud/sora/some RE characters? --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 10/10/2007 11:37:22 AM | message detail |
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I knew this would happen. How are sonic and Link not going to share a fanbase now? Seriously. Riddle me that stats topic. --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Failure swirldude has exposed me as a prediction fraud. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 11:37:33 AM | message detail |
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I don't think so. Magus beat Ganondorf, who I really doubt was
significantly weaker than Zelda at the time (why would he be?), and
Zelda herself was at like 30% on BL. Assuming Zelda is as powerful as she appears in 2k3, which Lara Croft seems to take issue with furiously. You have to wonder, with Zelda apparently rSFFing Samus... why not Mega Man? It would make a lot of things make sense. Alternatively, things were just different in 2k3... I hear a lot of talk of Yoshi > Bowser and/or Luigi > both nowadays, and while I don't buy it... It was a stronger Tidus at that time, I think the same Tidus that got 42% on Sonic the previous year. The same Tidus who struggled for 55 on Claire Redfield. Tidus was overrated in 2002, due to the poll being down during much of Sonic's best time and possible other factors (such as lol 2k2!). Magus has just fallen since then... perhaps some between then and 2K5, but I'm certain he's also lost strength since 2K5, just like Frog seems to have weakened since 2K5. Magus has fallen, but it's not like he wasn't massively overrated. The indications were EVERYWHERE. Ganondorf was never that high (even in 2k4, look at that Alucard match), Tidus looked like crap in 2k4, Magus' performances on Sam Fisher and Luca Blight... it all adds up. Period. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 11:38:46 AM | message detail |
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yeah you tell 'em hochi too bad about that Naked Snake picture doin' nothing though but then again I bet this is all just Big Boss' natural strength pictures mean nothing --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 11:39:47 AM | message detail |
| Yeah... if you don't think Magus was really
overrated, it's probably not safe for you to brush your teeth without
supervision, that's how brain dead you'd be. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 10/10/2007 11:40:00 AM | message detail |
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Who cares if i wrong about the pic doing anything? That's small chaff now. Sonic is Brawl means all of you are screwed --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Failure swirldude has exposed me as a prediction fraud. |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/10/2007 11:40:43 AM | message detail |
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It's still almost a thing of amazement how things fell so perfectly
into place for Magus's overration to occur and then be hidden for
nearly 2 years --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 11:41:03 AM | message detail |
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| Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/10/2007 11:41:44 AM | message detail |
| I think Big Boss could actually come fairly close to Mario next round with another Naked Snake picture. No chance at beating him of course, but Sephiroth will bring the percentages way down and Fox will likely take away a decent number of Mario votes. On the other hand, I'm not so high on FF7-MGS SFF any more after Ocelot performed so well (and after Snake's BR performance). |
| Crimson Dragoon | Posted 10/10/2007 11:41:51 AM | message detail |
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EC's not lying. I've seen him do it before. --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 11:42:19 AM | message detail |
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And his mother has felt it. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| BDawg | Posted 10/10/2007 11:44:44 AM | message detail |
| Lol they're trying to create a perfect storm for
Link defeat, so it'll be all the sweeter when Link wins and shuts Cloud
down AGAIN. But don't get me wrong putting doubt in the final is pretty
awesome, and Sonic sure as hell needed some Smash-roids. --- Should I start running now? |
| satai_delenn | Posted 10/10/2007 11:47:00 AM | message detail |
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so which non-nintendo character would you like to see next? megaman/dante/duke nekem/cloud/sora/some RE characters? Despite it being EXTREMELY unlikely for a Square character to make it, my answer would be Sora. Back when the board did a "design your own Smash character" thing, I made Sora, and once I was finished I was really bummed that he didn't exist in Melee, heh. I think he would be a lot of fun. ...that said, I certainly wouldn't argue if for some wacky reason they included Dante. <_< --- My Contest Hero: SHOULD have been Axel. Ugh. Currently playing: Aria of Sorrow, Silent Hill 2, Super Mario RPG |
| voltch | Posted 10/10/2007 11:51:53 AM | message detail |
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well konami then sega,next up capcom. --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 11:53:40 AM | message detail |
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The only non-ninty character I want to see added is Mega. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Yesmar | Posted 10/10/2007 12:04:04 PM | message detail |
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Assuming Zelda is as powerful as she appears in 2k3, which Lara
Croft seems to take issue with furiously. You have to wonder, with
Zelda apparently rSFFing Samus... why not Mega Man? It would make a lot
of things make sense. Alternatively, things were just different in
2k3... I hear a lot of talk of Yoshi > Bowser and/or Luigi > both
nowadays, and while I don't buy it... If anything fishy happened in MM > Zelda, I would guess that MM did a little better than normal. Lara Croft was the same popularity in 2003 as in 2002, with a massive increase in casuals. Based on that I have doubts that Zelda did much to Zelda. I'm not gonna argue that Tidus's ranking on Sonic was inflated due to the poll being down, but Sonic did at least get the morning vote. And I suspect the increase in votals in 2003 would have given Tidus a small boost anyway. --- "Look out-- It's Liquids and Gases!" |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/10/2007 12:20:22 PM | message detail |
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This makes MM being added in more likely, I think. --- Can anyone give me the dimensions of their Wii box?- Mershiness adamjaxe- Stop measuring your presents.... |
| MnMZero | Posted 10/10/2007 12:23:10 PM | message detail |
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You know... this isn't just Sonic being announced on the SSBB websites.
It looks like all the major VG websites are reporting it. It may not be
comparable to Snake being announced at E3, but surely it's better than
what Ike got. It only takes a little bit to get the internet buzzing. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 12:25:24 PM | message detail |
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Oh, Sonic gets more than a decent boost from this, no doubt. Not enough
to upend Snake as far as I'm concerned, but it's better than yesterday
when people had given him up for dead against MASTER GODDAMN CHIEF --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/10/2007 12:26:27 PM | message detail |
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Assuming Zelda is as powerful as she appears in 2k3, which Lara
Croft seems to take issue with furiously. You have to wonder, with
Zelda apparently rSFFing Samus... why not Mega Man? It would make a lot
of things make sense. Alternatively, things were just different in
2k3... I hear a lot of talk of Yoshi > Bowser and/or Luigi > both
nowadays, and while I don't buy it... Nah, Lara Croft was equal in both 2K2 and 2K3.... Lara was a little above the fodder line, and still is around there today. No big reason to think Zelda/MM was a fluke. You know it's a bit silly to assume one fluke means another match only slightly related has to be a fluke, too. (now, if two match-ups are very clearly analogous, that's a different story) The same Tidus who struggled for 55 on Claire Redfield. Tidus was overrated in 2002, due to the poll being down during much of Sonic's best time and possible other factors (such as lol 2k2!). Use some common sense with last year's matches and x-stats, and Claire Redfield is hot on Jill Valentine's heels in terms of popularity...(plus, Rikku did respectable this year while Jill/Peach disappointed) The down time was negligible in terms of final percentage (.5% better for Sonic being optimistic). Jill got 27% on Link that year. Magus has fallen, but it's not like he wasn't massively overrated. The indications were EVERYWHERE. Ganondorf was never that high (even in 2k4, look at that Alucard match), Tidus looked like crap in 2k4, Magus' performances on Sam Fisher and Luca Blight... it all adds up. Period. Oh, yes, of course Magus was very much overrated in 2K3. But, not like he was at 25% on BL at that time as you seem to be suggesting! (If you measure from a more reliable Luca Blight value, Magus is actually... overrated, if anything). Actually, more like 28% is what I think you're suggesting, actually, based of 2K4 Tidus. Man, 28% on BL as opposed to 30/31%... why on Earth am I arguing such a meager difference? I guess I just enjoy it, hrhr. Anyway... Looking at today... Magus is going to end up doing about just as well on Mario as Frog will on Samus... craziness. Mario >> Samus confirmed?! (oh, yes, and Magus is doing far worse today than 28% on BL, for certain) --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 12:27:15 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and totally spaced the ASV. Look at Mario go. Stay above 25%, BB! Drop below 18%, Magus! Phoenix... um... uh... --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 12:29:37 PM | message detail |
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As far as strength of threepacks go, Big Naked Boss Snake/Magus/Phoenix >>> Scorpion/Frog/Midna. HAHAHAHAHA EAT IT SIG ARGH WHY THE PAIN --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| emanresU weN | Posted 10/10/2007 12:30:02 PM | message detail |
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So is Ganon>Luigi the popular pick here or will Virgil take second? --- Go Ducks Go! |
| swirIdude | Posted 10/10/2007 12:31:35 PM | message detail |
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Vergil wouldn't win this match whether he was from Devil May Cry or he was a poet. --- Jesus never had co-op adventure mode. Brawl is a little bit better. ~McMoogle Squall > Sora is a lock. ~Lady Ashe |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 12:31:38 PM | message detail |
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I'd call Ganon > Mudkip before Ganon > Vergil. ...I'm finding Mudkip advancing frighteningly more feasible the more I think about it. :( --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| swirIdude | Posted 10/10/2007 12:33:07 PM | message detail |
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i liek mudkipz, but if Mudkip beats Luigi or Ganon I will curse humanity. --- Jesus never had co-op adventure mode. Brawl is a little bit better. ~McMoogle Squall > Sora is a lock. ~Lady Ashe |
| voltch | Posted 10/10/2007 12:34:26 PM | message detail |
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mudkip/bidoof the stats will reveal many interesting facts. --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| swirIdude | Posted 10/10/2007 12:36:02 PM | message detail |
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Stats? We can make stats out of this mess? --- Jesus never had co-op adventure mode. Brawl is a little bit better. ~McMoogle Squall > Sora is a lock. ~Lady Ashe |
| voltch | Posted 10/10/2007 12:47:41 PM | message detail |
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why not? --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| BDawg | Posted 10/10/2007 12:55:36 PM | message detail |
| Man, I know Mario is facing MGS, CT, and super
cult day votes, but dayum. You know the higher Mario goes the more this
just looks like Magus bomba. I mean the pic helps but Magus is getting
crushed. --- Should I start running now? |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 10/10/2007 12:57:40 PM | message detail |
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Magus is now on Kefka's level. Makes sense actually --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Failure swirldude has exposed me as a prediction fraud. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/10/2007 1:19:14 PM | message detail |
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Fun with x-stats! Let's use Captain Falcon as the base... Captain Falcon = 19.70% on BL. Wario = 21.65% in Wario/C.Falcon's match. Meta Knight = 25.15% in Wario/Meta Knight's match. Princess Peach = 23.01% in Meta Knight/Peach's match. For the record, measuring Tifa from that Peach brings Tifa to 33.85% on BL. It's quite funny how well it seemed to work out. I didn't try Fox because he clearly SFFed all Nintendo characters he faced. :x --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/10/2007 1:24:45 PM | message detail |
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Mario truly is looking too strong compared to last round. Maybe Pac-Man
actually did hurt Mario more than negligibly? I also wasn't expecting
Magus to look like Frog, and stuff. Also, notice that Big Boss isn't
losing much percentage at all... perhaps the picture not only makes Big
Boss stronger, but also better with the day vote. (that reminds me...
remember how Sprite-Snake lost the day vote BADLY to Frog?) --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| creativename | Posted 10/10/2007 1:36:26 PM | message detail |
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Well Sonic looks much safer for the Final Four now with the Brawl hype effect. Gordon and Duke are stronger than Viewtiful Joe, but probably weaker than Prince of Persia. With any sort of boost Sonic might straight-up outdo his percentage from the 1st round in his next match (perhaps even by quite a bit). Sonic's boost shouldn't approach Snake's, because Snake had like nothing to do with the Nintendo fanbase. Sonic is already related to it. But, with how Sonic Team had performed this contest, he desperately needed this. So while it shouldn't be like Snake's boost, it could still be a big deal for him, basically saving his ass from utter failure. Also as mentioned, this only helps the chances of Cloud>Link. Sonic probably would've been SFFed by Link anyway, but this might help him resist it better - partially due to him being stronger, but also perhaps because of bandwagon effect (e.g. Ganon/Bowser against Sephiroth in the villain contest). People should be more "into" Sonic right now, and so not as ready to abandon ship against Link. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/10/2007 1:44:49 PM | message detail |
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I hope Zelda does worse than Ganondorf in relation to Link tomorrow. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/10/2007 1:56:56 PM | message detail |
| I'd say she almost has to, unless voters get confused about the Zelda name. I'm sure Ganon got a decent amount of not-Link votes in that much that Zelda won't get here. |
| creativename | Posted 10/10/2007 1:59:18 PM | message detail |
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Looks like Big Boss holds up in the day a lot
better with this picture. I guess he was stronger with the early vote
before because maybe the early voters are more likely to know him by
name alone. Speculation, but it seems to make sense. Gaddswell It's strange to see Magus, of all people, to be pulling 16% updates during the night. Yeah what the hell happened with Magus' famed night vote in this match? That's pretty confusing. SmurfFAQs Keep in mind that Snake was faltering badly before the Brawl Boost. He was looking more vulnerable than any noble has looked ever. I mean 43% against freaking MM? Good point. There is a parallel there - darkest before the Brawl-dawn and all that for both Snake and Sonic it looks like :) Zylo and the RPG game developed by Bioware What what what?? Did I misunderstand you or is Bioware making a Sonic RPG...? Harrich Solid and Sonic are likely going to be fighting more for the SSBB-favor amongst themselves than those two fighting for Nintendo-favor over Link. Hmmm, interesting point. Sonic and Snake split their brawl hype boosts? n00b avenger I fully expect Vincent to beat Crono so much that I would actually be surprised at this point if Crono won I don't know about surprised, I think it's still a pretty close call. Though I wouldn't argue with anyone who thought Vincent should be the favorite right now. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Kaxon | Posted 10/10/2007 1:59:22 PM | message detail |
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No matter what happens tomorrow, there's no way Zelda would do worse against Link in a 1v1 poll. --- R.I.P. Robert Jordan, 1948-2007 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/10/2007 2:01:55 PM | message detail |
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Mario truly is looking too strong compared to last round. Maybe
Pac-Man actually did hurt Mario more than negligibly? I also wasn't
expecting Magus to look like Frog, and stuff. Looks like Midna LFF probably hurt Samus too. Makes her look somewhat better than before. Also, notice that Big Boss isn't losing much percentage at all... perhaps the picture not only makes Big Boss stronger, but also better with the day vote. The fact that he's up against Magus and Phoenix also helps. >_> --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/10/2007 2:05:49 PM | message detail |
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What what what?? Did I misunderstand you or is Bioware making a Sonic RPG...? Yeah. For the DS, IIRC. Good point. There is a parallel there - darkest before the Brawl-dawn and all that for both Snake and Sonic it looks like :) Snake was looking much better in 2k5, though. And 2k6 was Sonic's best year ever. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 10/10/2007 2:08:43 PM | message detail |
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Just reading through the topic when I found this: (even in 2k4, look at that Alucard match) Why do people talk about Alucard like he was a chump back then? The guy got 52% on Kirby, which is only 3% less than Squall did the year after. Unless you want to believe that either Kirby boosted a lot in 2004, Squall boosted a lot in 2005, or Alucard plummeted in 2004, Alucard had serious upper midcarder strength back then. --- Currently Playing: Wild Arms 3, Persona 3 |
| creativename | Posted 10/10/2007 2:12:17 PM | message detail |
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Black Turtle: Wait.... people thought Magus would be able to beat Link? I have no idea why people always say that Magus was hyped to beat Link in 2K3. No one seriously considered this. Link was considered invincible before that contest, and during that contest too until Cloud crushed Sonic. Magus certainly wasn't expected to challenge him. People expected Magus to beat Ganon more easily than he did, and there was disucssion about Magus>Crono, but challenge Link? No. That would've been considered outlandish by virtually everyone. Anyone beating Link was considered outlandish, with only Sephiroth getting some buzz as a good upset pick. Haste2 Sephiroth was thought to be the more popular character in SC2K2 and even all the way through SC2K3 up until the final match... in fact, if you thought Cloud was more popular you were often ridiculed. I still don't understand how anyone can fathom Cloud being stronger than Sephiroth in 2K2. Cloud barely beat him the next year when he clearly boosted more than Sephiroth, for obvious reasons. Karma Hunter Tidus was overrated in 2002, due to the poll being down during much of Sonic's best time and possible other factors (such as lol 2k2!). I don't know about this. 2K2 was just very different. Tidus has simply fallen a lot over the years. In 2K2 I thing he had very legit strength. PortugalTheMann Yeah... if you don't think Magus was really overrated, it's probably not safe for you to brush your teeth without supervision, that's how brain dead you'd be. Magus has declined way more than he was ever overrated. That's not even in question. BDawg Lol they're trying to create a perfect storm for Link defeat Heh, it almost does look that way :) Haste2 (oh, yes, and Magus is doing far worse today than 28% on BL, for certain) Using Morgoth's sheet, pegging Mario at 40% seems to make him about 20.50%. Big Boss at 27% and Phoenix at 13.50%. Phoenix has looked a lot worse this round, in the first round Magus would I think have been expected to roughly 60/40 him, with those numbers from this round he'd about double him. Mario truly is looking too strong compared to last round. Maybe Pac-Man actually did hurt Mario more than negligibly? Actually isn't he looking a lot weaker? The first round numbers for Mario at 40% make Big Boss at 22%. Here, Big Boss is at about 27%. Mario looks a lot weaker as compared to Big Boss. Also, notice that Big Boss isn't losing much percentage at all... perhaps the picture not only makes Big Boss stronger, but also better with the day vote. (that reminds me... remember how Sprite-Snake lost the day vote BADLY to Frog?) Yes it looks like the day vote might be more pic sensitive. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2007 2:17:08 PM | message detail |
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man, this is a killing. makes me wonder if Big Boss could have won WITHOUT the picture. Magus should never be under 20%. --- xyzzy "And just to clear up any remaining confusion, tranny > icon." -Shaggy |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 2:18:06 PM | message detail |
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Of course Magus has declined... but ignoring him being overrated is like ignoring that you have three testicles. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
