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Ultimaphazon | Posted 10/10/2007 6:05:51 AM | message detail
Who thinks BB could have pulled this off without the Naked Snake pic? I'm sure it would have been a lot closer, but I still think he would have won.

The 23% that favored Old man BB over Mario in round 1 were probably well aware that BB = Naked Snake, and they would probably still support him here in round 2, so I think he wouldn't have lost too much percentage.
I doubt he would have gone below 20%, so that would put him close to Magus, with a slight lead.

Crazy thoughts of a contest-newbie or possible?
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Buzzup | Posted 10/10/2007 6:12:36 AM | message detail
There is no way old man Big Boss would be beating Magus without the Naked Snake pic, none.
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 6:15:50 AM | message detail
That trailer is awesome, it's basically just Sonic kicking everyone's ass... feeling better about having Sonic > Snake first time around now. Not sure if I should or not though.

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2007 6:19:32 AM | message detail
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2007 6:25:24 AM | message detail
What Big Boss is expected to get against Mario in round 1: 28.43%
What Magus is expected to get against Mario so far: 29.94%

The percent will drop over the day so without the picture this would've been a close match.
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Match 38: Mario > Magus Points: 117/168
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/10/2007 6:47:38 AM | message detail
*yawn*

*wakes up and walks over to the computer*

*looks at Board 8*

*sees topics about Sonic in brawl*

Man these jokes never stop

*goes to brawl website*

*passes out*
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/10/2007 6:50:27 AM | message detail
So now officially more than half of the noble 9 are in Smash. I wonder when Megaman gets announced
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/10/2007 7:05:31 AM | message detail
By the way, what do you guys think of Mario's performance? Personally I think that he isn't that impressive. But I guess it makes sense why Mario wouldn't be able to dominate other characters with fanbases in this format.
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transience | Posted 10/10/2007 7:13:17 AM | message detail
Mario pulled some 48% hours in the morning. he's going to do that again come afternoon.

he looks fine -- maybe even great.
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leo3leo | Posted 10/10/2007 7:16:32 AM | message detail
I'm voting for Sonic because of the song in the Brawl trailer. I think it was also in a Sonic game/port for the gamecube, but I wasn't paying attention.
charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2007 7:30:52 AM | message detail
Mario is about 2% off from Samus' score

Scorpion/Frog/Midna vs Big Boss/Magus/Phoenix Wright

Who wins?
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Match 38: Mario > Magus Points: 117/168
Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2007 7:33:22 AM | message detail
Mario's doing pretty decent for all things considered.

And woah @ Big Boss. Took charge overnight and I'm lovin it!
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Mario/Big Boss/Magus/Phoenix - Bracket: Mario > Magus - Vote: Big Boss (143/168)
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/10/2007 7:38:23 AM | message detail
Scorpion/Frog/Midna vs Big Boss/Magus/Phoenix Wright

If Midna was unaffected it'd be close, but with an SFFed gimped Midna as we saw, I'd definitely give it to the latter
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/10/2007 8:22:22 AM | message detail
I would take Magus and today's Big Boss over Frog and Scorpion, and Midna wouldn't beat Phoenix by much.

This picture is killer for Big Boss though -- it's almost halfway through the match and he's got over 2% more than what he got last round...and he's still gaining! I know Magus disappointed, but the BB we knew pre-contest wouldn't be beating him by nearly 7% either! Amazing performance...


...and speaking of amazing, how about that Sonic announcement? **** yeah...he looks more fun to play as than Snake, too, though I'm partial to the fast characters. Still like Snake a lot better in general, but man, you have Sonic in Brawl with that song and you're just ready to rock!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 8:23:56 AM | message detail
*sees Smash update*

Well, there goes Mega Man and Sonic having another barnburner.

TuRtLe
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/10/2007 8:25:03 AM | message detail
So now that Sonic and Snake are both nintendo characters, Cloud > Link is maybe a possibility? >.<
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 8:30:23 AM | message detail
I wouldn't go that far. First of all, Sonic is already way more Nintendo than Snake ever was. Secondly, the game hasn't come out yet, so I definitely can't see Sonic boosting that much.

Sonic > Snake is a much more worrying upset, but I'll wait until Sonic's round 2 match before deciding.

TuRtLe
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/10/2007 8:38:16 AM | message detail
Maybe, but it's a tough sell. Solid and Sonic are likely going to be fighting more for the SSBB-favor amongst themselves than those two fighting for Nintendo-favor over Link. Keep in mind after Solid's huge surprise announcement last year that he had afew months before the Battle Royale came up, and when he eventually lost he still gave more of his leftover percentage to Cloud than Link. Sonic's going to have less than a month to get the word around before the championship (assuming MC doesn't upset him) and it wasn't as surprising. I also wonder how well Sonic's going to hold up anyway -- the Sonic Team had been doing poorly this contest anyway, and we've seen Sonic face Cloud before (in Sonic's worst against Cloud's best, but still)...now throw in Link and Solid, and Sonic is going to have a very difficult time. I don't think he'll hurt Link any worse than he hurts Snake.


It does make it more interesting though!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 8:41:18 AM | message detail
Exactly. Notice how quickly Snake's Nintendo power left him when against stiff Nintendo competition?

Yoshi equalled Squall's percentage, Samus made him look like the 2 chumps he just kicked the crap out of and the Battle Royale had him dual SFF'd by Cloud and Link to the point it took cheating to get him over Sephiroth with Cloud in the poll.

TuRtLe
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127/168 in the contest. Next pick: Mario > Magus
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Crimson Dragoon | Posted 10/10/2007 8:46:05 AM | message detail
Oh Magus. How the mighty have fallen.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/10/2007 8:46:07 AM | message detail
Damnit... I want it to happen sooooo badly. v.v
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 8:49:27 AM | message detail
I must say, Frog's and Magus' performances really don't make Crono look good going into round 3. I need Crono and Vincent to split evenly for Zero to have a shot there.

TuRtLe
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Buzzup | Posted 10/10/2007 8:53:37 AM | message detail
So between Crono/Vincent and Sonic/whoever, what do you guys think are the chances of the noble nine breaking this year?
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/10/2007 8:56:47 AM | message detail
I fully expect Vincent to beat Crono so much that I would actually be surprised at this point if Crono won
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/10/2007 9:04:41 AM | message detail
Yeah, I think Vincent > Crono has got to be the favorite right now. If it wasn't for SSBB, I'd say MC > Sonic would be too for me...but as of right now, yeah, Crono's the most in danger.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/10/2007 9:41:05 AM | message detail
You know, for all the talk of Chief upsetting, we've never really seen the guy up against an icon. The closest he's ever come to someone who deserves that status is Crono and Sub-Zero (*snickers*). He may very well destroy the bracket, but he can also bomb himself to hell. He is Master Chief, after all.
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 9:43:07 AM | message detail
So yeah yeah anyway who's nominating Big Boss for next year??? :D
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/10/2007 9:44:44 AM | message detail
Mario is doing really, really, good. Considering his competition, he might end up over 47% here. That puts him about 10% lower than last round, with much tougher competition (this Big Boss >>> last round's Big Boss, and Magus/Phoenix > Pac-Man/Wander). I'd say his competition is stronger than Samus's, although she may have been hurt a little by LFF from Midna.

As for Magus......uh......Crono/Magus wasn't SFF? Or CT characters have finally collapsed and Crono is going to lose to Vincent? Frog actually held up somewhat respectably against Samus- he got 26.5% of the Samus/Frog votes in round 1 and higher in round 2 (probably due to Midna), which isn't that far below his 2005 performance. And it's quite possible Samus has boosted since then. Magus though.....he's currently getting a lower percentage of the Mario/Magus votes than he got against Crono, and substantially lower than he got against Link!

Actually, I don't think Magus has EVER met Board 8's expectations in a match, not even in 2003 (with maybe the exception of blowing out Luca Blight in round 1 of 2004).

2003:
Beats Sam Fisher, but doesn't score a blowout; not good for someone hyped as being able to beat Link.
Beats Ganondorf barely, the board is disappointed because we were expecting him to win easily and challenge Link.
Loses to Link, 35% doesn't look impressive compared to pre-contest expectations (ranging from slightly below Crono's level to above Link)

2004:
Beats Luca easily, probably the only match he didn't disappoint.
Loses badly to Crono, a match that was supposed to be much closer as Magus could potentially rSFF Crono.

2005:
Loses to Knuckles. 0 Knux picks in the Guru, Oracle, etc.

Then, of course, we have Magus's first round match this year and today.
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Crimson Dragoon | Posted 10/10/2007 9:48:25 AM | message detail
We should all nominate Wesker again next year since he's playable in Umbrella Chronicles. At the very least to see how much an actual full Wii game boost can do for him.

http://i21.tinypic.com/2yyxf06.jpg
http://i24.tinypic.com/aot2lf.jpg

...please? >_>
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/10/2007 9:50:44 AM | message detail
Wait.... people thought Magus would be able to beat Link?

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129/168 in the contest. Next pick: Mario > Magus
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/10/2007 9:52:25 AM | message detail
Wait.... people thought Magus would be able to beat Link?

Yeah 2003 was a crazy year. I remember that Aeon Azuran was one of the 10 last perfects, and he had Magus winning it all... It's a shame that Magus isn't what he used to be, since he's a damn good character.
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Dekar TKB | Posted 10/10/2007 9:54:21 AM | message detail
Wait.... people thought Magus would be able to beat Link?

There was an assumption that Magus would be stronger than Crono because he had a personality that people liked and, uh, existed.

Yeah, people didn't know that much about the contest back then. <_<.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/10/2007 9:55:39 AM | message detail
I remember that. Aeon was hot stuff in 2003.
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/10/2007 9:56:13 AM | message detail
Magus is the same as he's always been, outside that single match with Link he's been a character whose proud accomplishments were being slightly above Tidus and slightly below Knuckles. We were just thrown off by Ganondorf (and Zelda) boosting in general afterwards...
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2007 9:56:18 AM | message detail
Magus was suppose to be Link's biggest competition in that contest, the only other character that could stand up to Link was Samus and that was because of Metroid Prime.
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Match 38: Mario > Magus Points: 117/168
ZFS | Posted 10/10/2007 10:01:29 AM | message detail
I like this Vincent upset talk!

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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/10/2007 10:04:59 AM | message detail
Speaking of the golden oldies...

I always wondered why Sephiroth had so much more hype surrounding him than Cloud in 2002. I didn't even know who he was. >_>
Lady Ashe | Posted 10/10/2007 10:05:41 AM | message detail
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/10/2007 10:05:41 AM | message detail
You know, I'm thinking Anti-Champion voting might have been a real factor in the 2003 contest, scorned though it was at the time. Both Magus and Samus performed surprisingly well on Link- in Samus's case, it was no surprise at the time, but she only did about 2% better on Mario 2 years later- if Mario would SFF her that badly, why not Link? The obvious favorite has had huge underperformances in other contests- Sephiroth/Ganon, Sephiroth/Bowser, Samus/Tifa, Samus/Zelda.....
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ZFS | Posted 10/10/2007 10:06:15 AM | message detail
As for Sonic, though, I wouldn't say anything about him until he goes up against Sub-Zero again. Just as he could shoot through the roof (and that trailer is definitely 'cool' enough to do it for him), or not move an inch from what we saw of him last round. I don't think it will affect very much, though; we'd just be reconfirming him for the finals! woohoo

(YOU ARE DOOMED LINK SSBB SFF THE RETURN OF CLOUD IS IMMINENT)

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BDawg | Posted 10/10/2007 10:20:36 AM | message detail
First of all, epic lulz for what Big Boss vs. Magus turned into over the night. Secondly holy crap Sonic in brawl what am I doing posting this tread instead of going to the dojo.
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superCP | Posted 10/10/2007 10:32:49 AM | message detail
Sonic for the final four confirmed!!!
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/10/2007 10:35:40 AM | message detail
If Sonic makes it to the final four, then he will have managed what even Tom Nook was unable to do.
Warsola | Posted 10/10/2007 10:36:31 AM | message detail
If Sonic had been announced before the contest, I guarantee you that Sonic > Snake would be the guru favorite in the Sweet Sixteen and Elite Eight.

That said, being a guru favorite did SO much for Balthier <_<
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And if we armed them all with two swords, we'd have four times the votes!
Warsola | Posted 10/10/2007 10:37:24 AM | message detail
Also, Naked Snake Boss vs. Solid ****. Who do you vote for, and who wins?
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And if we armed them all with two swords, we'd have four times the votes!
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 10:43:13 AM | message detail
I'd probably vote for Big Boss... I enjoyed MGS3 more than any other MGS game, which I know puts me in the minority. It would have nothing to do with Solid **** though.

Who wins? Solid Snake. People will vote for him, most of the people that would be confused would probably just think the names weren't lined up with the characters in the pic, and vote for Solid Snake.

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Warsola | Posted 10/10/2007 10:44:18 AM | message detail
That if they were just labeled 1 and 2, ala Sonic/Snake? =O
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 10:44:29 AM | message detail
That "People will vote for him" was supposed to be changed but it didn't happen.

also wtf pw ad. Is that new, or have I just not been around enough lately to notice it... or is it old and I'm just stupid?

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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/10/2007 10:44:50 AM | message detail
Naked Snake vs. Solid ****? I'm pretty sure Solid Snake would win that match easily regardless of the picture. Hell, people might confuse Naked Snake/Big Boss with the uglyass pic, so it might not even matter.
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/10/2007 10:45:27 AM | message detail
If they were labeled 1 and 2? Naked. Definitely.

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