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Keno316 | Posted 10/8/2007 4:51:40 PM | message detail
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/8/2007 5:07:49 PM | message detail
Looks like Åuron will fail to breach 36%
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Seginustemple | Posted 10/8/2007 5:14:27 PM | message detail
Damn, I'm one of the skepticals about the whole pic influence thing, but that Naked Snake pic even had me fooled before I realized Snake was in a different group. This could be disaster....
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/8/2007 5:31:28 PM | message detail
Hmm, Auron/Squall/Vincent/Luigi - who advances?

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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/8/2007 5:32:03 PM | message detail
Luigi > Vincent. Duh.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/8/2007 5:39:51 PM | message detail
Ok. smart***, how about Auron/Squall/Vincent/Master Chief?

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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/8/2007 5:43:58 PM | message detail
MC > Vincent. Duh


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Lugia2 | Posted 10/8/2007 5:48:30 PM | message detail
Wow, Meta looks great. And that Fox is actually from Star Fox: Command, which will be used in Brawl. WHY did they pick that one? Why not SFAdventures or Assault? Sigh...

And we seem to have found Big Boss's reverse "Solid Sprite"* factor/ZSSF. Go Naked Snake!

*I got modded for using the...proper term for this; I'm not going to let it happen again.
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creativename | Posted 10/8/2007 6:10:00 PM | message detail
New generalized x-stat based percentage estimator

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/48

Based on King Morgoth's conditional probability formula.

Don't bother trying to put more than 12 values in there, it won't work well.

Don't know yet if anyone has figured out a way of working backwards from actual results to x-stat strengths yet, other than trial and error (which I'm not even going to attempt doing programmatically).
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2007 6:15:37 PM | message detail
What's Morgoth's formula?
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paraboxx | Posted 10/8/2007 6:18:22 PM | message detail
Ok...so the pic thing.

I don't get why this will have such a big influence. Even if people do look at the pic and see Snake, aren't they still going to be looking for "Snake" on the poll options? Once they see "Big Boss" instead, why would they vote for him?

I'm still worried about Magus, though. Big Boss looked pretty strong last round anyway...and Magus looked anything but.
smitelf | Posted 10/8/2007 6:19:54 PM | message detail
IMO, without the Naked Snake pic, Magus would beat Big Boss by <2%. The pic could easily be enough to budge Big Boss up by enough to beat Magus.
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emanresU weN | Posted 10/8/2007 6:20:13 PM | message detail
Magus has this, he'll win by under a thousand though.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 10/8/2007 6:20:16 PM | message detail
Maybe Big Boss will beat Mario! >_>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2007 6:21:27 PM | message detail
Because casual players often don't even make the connection between Big Boss=Naked Snake, and with the melty BB pics they still couldn't. With that pic, they finally will realize that BB=Naked Snake.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2007 6:26:06 PM | message detail
Nobody reads poll options.
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creativename | Posted 10/8/2007 6:26:13 PM | message detail
There's a pretty decent chance of Big Boss just crushing Magus tomorrow.

If Magus wins it should be close...if Big Boss wins it could be close, or he could have a big cushion.


And we seem to have found Big Boss's reverse "Solid Sprite"* factor/ZSSF. Go Naked Snake!

Indeed.


What's Morgoth's formula?

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/detail.php?board=8&topic=38202386&message=424955744
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paraboxx | Posted 10/8/2007 6:27:32 PM | message detail
Because casual players often don't even make the connection between Big Boss=Naked Snake, and with the melty BB pics they still couldn't. With that pic, they finally will realize that BB=Naked Snake.

Okay, I can see that. But Naked Snake still isn't Solid Snake. Does he really have as many fans as the original? And besides, the fact that the name "Snake" isn't on the poll option at all will probably keep some people from making that leap.

Nobody reads poll options.

...how do you vote if you don't read the options...?
Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/8/2007 6:29:16 PM | message detail
MGS3 is my favorite MGS.

To me NS & SS are one in the same.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2007 6:36:40 PM | message detail
But Naked Snake still isn't Solid Snake. Does he really have as many fans as the original?

It doesn't matter if he doesn't get EVERY vote Solid Snake would (we all know Solid would easily crush Magus). This picture will help voters make the connection that they otherwise wouldn't, and Naked Snake has a TON of fans when that connection is made (the poll option 'Naked Snake' with that picture would be a strong midcarder at WORST). Couple that with the strength of MGS in this format, and... Magus supporters should be VERY worried.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/8/2007 6:38:27 PM | message detail
Snake outlasted Seph in a 4-way poll once before...

(Yes, I know Cloud was also in the damn poll, I just want to dream).


Cloud may not be in the poll, but Fox is. Let's see how many votes he can take away from Mario.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2007 6:39:08 PM | message detail
I'd also like to add in that Crono characters have performed like **** in this setting. If Magus' own performance weren't enough, you have Crono getting only 45% in the second-weakest fourpack any of the NNers faced, and Frog almost losing to Axel.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2007 6:39:36 PM | message detail
I mean, good Lord, Big Boss' picture is better than half the pictures Solid Snake has ever received. o.O
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Warsola | Posted 10/8/2007 6:40:23 PM | message detail
To be fair, Kleenex, 33% of Snake's pictures are Solid ****. >_>
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2007 6:49:38 PM | message detail
Wow @ Naked Snake

gg bracket

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2007 6:51:27 PM | message detail
Using Morgoth's formula and lol X-stats, here's how each match should have gone:

Magus: 37.72%
Phoenix: 21.3%
Bomberman: 22.65%
Crash: 18.33%

Mario: 55.17%
Big Boss: 15.72%
Pac-Man: 20.7%
Wander (assuming X-stat of 10%): 8.42%

BB overperforms by 7%. Magus underperforms by 7%.
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Who Cares? | Posted 10/8/2007 6:55:16 PM | message detail
Sooooo, just how many people were gutsy enough to have Big Boss advance to the 3rd round?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2007 6:55:22 PM | message detail
Big Boss you can excuse with Pac-Man getting SFFed hardcore by Mario, but there's really none for Magus... especially seeing how Phoenix was almost certainly overrated last year, looking at Freeman (good thing he got PW2, but it reflects poorly on Magus nonetheless... to say nothing of him LOSING to Phoenix for the first half hour).
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greatone10 | Posted 10/8/2007 6:57:31 PM | message detail
I don't put too much stock in Magus doing horrible during the first half hour. Phoenix got the same big push he had last year at the start, but with the other votes being split four ways, it would take longer for the frontrunner to recover.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2007 6:58:42 PM | message detail
Man guys Mario is going to steal all the casual votes while PW's hardcore fanbase boosts him to second!

Believe
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2007 7:04:14 PM | message detail
Division 3: Round 2 - Match 37 – Sephiroth vs. Meta Knight vs. Fox vs. Wario

Moltar’s Analysis

Sephiroth
Round 1 – 55.23% vs. Meta Knight, Peach and CATS

Way to disappoint Seph!

Meta Knight
Round 1 – 18.20% vs. Sephiroth, Peach and CATS

MK beats out the favored Peach for second. Victory!

Fox
Round 1 – 45.63% vs. Wario, Capt. Falcon and Banjo

SFF makes him look good.

Wario
Round 1 – 22.51% vs. Fox, Capt. Falcon and Banjo

Uses his farts to fly around.

Don’t you just love watching Sephiroth perform like crap? 55% against Meta Knight, Peach and CATS? Way to hold up the Clinkeroth part of your name. Fox and Wario are only stronger too, so expect another facepalm performance from one of the Big Three.

Meta Knight looked good last round, but Fox has shown that out of the Nintendo midcard/high fodder, he reigns surpreme. Fox still gets what he got from Wario, and then takes some from Meta Knight as well. No problems here.

I got nothing else…can’t believe the Sephiroth part of the write-up was longer than the battle for second.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Sephiroth > Fox

Moltar’s Prediction is: Sephiroth: 49% - Fox: 25% - Meta Knight: 15% - Wario: 11%



Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

This is Cloud vs a bunch of SFF scrubs all over again, only this time Nintendo is involved.

I have Sephiroth > Peach in my bracket for this match, but I fully admitted ages ago that it was a fanboy pick that wouldn't work. Sephiroth > Fox was the way to go here, and Meta Knight didn't do enough in round one to change my mind. I mean hell, just look at the first round and how easily Fox dominated his match.

This won't be a pure copy of Cloud's most recent match, because despite SFF among the other three characters, one should clearly separate himself from the pack independent of the first place character's strength. Sephy > Fox seems safe enough, with Meta having a slight upset chance and Wario in dire need of some Maalox.

Ulti's Prediction:
Sephiroth [48.00%]
Fox [28.00%]
Meta Knight [17.00%]
Wario [7.00%]


Heroic Mario’s Analysis

After Sephiroth’s poor showing last round -- only 55% on Peach/Meta-Knight/CATS -- I’m expecting him to perform a bit better here. You could say that it’s Nintendo SFF causing it, and that may well be right, but I’d like to think this would look better for him here as opposed to what he was pulling before.

But, anyway, this is pretty much an all Nintendo SFF show -- which is why this will end up being a pretty dull match to watch. With Fox’s domination last round over three other Nintendo characters, I think it’s safe to say that he’s going to be fine here. Meta-Knight might put up a fight, but it won’t be enough to take second.

So, uh, go Sephiroth. Woohoo.

(This match sucks.)

Sephiroth – 55%
Fox – 17%
Meta-Knight – 15%
Wario – 13%


Bracket: Sephiroth > Fox
Vote: Sephiroth


Yoblazer’s Analysis

I've missed the first four matches of Round 2, but even a down-on-his-luck bum like me really, really can't see an upset occurring here. Today's showdown is one between Square's #2 powerhouse and three Nintendo guys who are relatively low on the company ladder. The winner is crystal clear, but the second place finisher is almost as obvious.

Sephiroth should own this match pretty hard. He's far stronger than any of his three competitors, and they'll all be subject to a vote split, to boot. In the same sense, Fox McCloud should get second. He destroyed Wario in Round 1, so that's no problem, and I'd be completely baffled to learn that he's lower on the Nintendo SFF than Meta Knight. Of course, judging by my bracket, that's probably exactly what will happen. =P
Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2007 7:04:39 PM | message detail
Sephiroth - 52%
Fox McCloud - 25%
Meta Knight - 12%
Wario - 11%


Lopen’s Analysis

Well let me look at this match. Hmmm. I think my interest stops at "Fox looks like a dork"... but I shall do my best to try and make something of this!

Alright, I'm distracted, you know what would make a great Warioware event? It's all like VOTE and then it shows this GameFAQs poll and you vote for the right guy. No it's not Wario, it's Meta-Knight. Even Wario would admit it. Look at that little badass.

Eh, really, this match is boring, and I need to hand an analysis soon. And I don't feel funny, either. Not like anyone's gonna read the analyses on this match anyway. The awesome that Meta-Knight and Sephiroth bring to this match are watered down by Fox McDork and Dorkio. I guess the fun thing to see is if Wario outdoes Peach. I think he does, even with the competition being a bit tougher than what she had with Fox there. Meta-Knight might be able to squeak by him anyway. Hell I'm hoping he runs Fox through too, but that's just not happening. 44% on the field, even if it is a thoroughly lame field, isn't anything to scoff at.

You know... it's weird, I don't even dislike Fox or Wario... I kinda like Fox, Wario isn't bad. For some reasons these Nintenpacks just leave me with a sour taste in my mouth. Meta-Knight deserves none of the blame. Kill them suckas, Seph. Sephiroth: Killing fodderific Nintendo characters by the dozens!

... er, no, Meta-Knight is awesome! Aw no.

Lopen's prediction:
Sephiroth - 50.01% (Hawhaw Seph breaks the poll)
Fox - 18.99%
Meta-Knight - 15.51%
Wario - 15.5%



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

Sephiroth

Easily the least impressive of Clinkeroth, Sephy would look strangely vulnerable if he were set to face anyone that looked even remotely likely to upset him (dang bias keeping Snake in the bottom half grarrgh). Today he's up against a Nintendo cluster-****, so he should look better than last time, relatively. But you never know...

Meta Knight

Destroyer of Peach, one of the biggest upsets of the first round, the as-of-yet-unreleased Brawl fan favorite MK is up against two NEWCOMERS! - one another less popular Brawl to-be, and one THE fan-favorite of SSBM. Hmm... this seems pretty predictable...

Fox McCloud

After his long hiatus Fox kicked ass in his Nintendo cluster-****, and he looks to impress in today's. He's got Star Fox and the advantage of two past SSBs here, so there's not a lot of doubt that he progresses - but hey, you could say the same thing about Peach if anyone cared about her !!

Wario

After disappointing last round and having C. Falcon give him a scare, Wario's just gonna be trying to look respectable here. And he'll fail.

Our first breather of this round *should* be an open and shut case. No one beats Sephiroth, of course. Wario lost to Fox last time, no reason anything should change. And while Meta Knight has a glimmer of a shot, he didn't shut down Peach nearly enough to give me confidence in him - Peach, who I'd expect Fox to dismantle. Fox should have this, and how. MK will have to wait for Brawl before even thinking about bringing real opposition... and even then, Fox is still probably too much to handle for just about any Brawl-centric character. Seriously, I'd take him to beat DK comfortably nowadays.

So let's get past this meh thingamajig and get to the REAL main course of tomorrow <.<

Karma Hunter's Vote: Sir ****ING Meta Knight
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Sephiroth with 51%, Fox McCloud with 23%, Meta Knight with 17%, Wario with 9%

And that's all she wrote. Man, let's see if Sephy can disappoint even to THIS...
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2007 7:04:49 PM | message detail
Round 2- Division 3 Semifinal A

Previous Matches:


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2871
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2872

Characters Involved:

Sephiroth


Last round, Sephy performed as expected, and lwill probably do the same this round.

Meta-Knight

Last round, Meta-Knight surprised by beating out Peach. He proved his character design won over Peach apathyl. Unfortunately, he doesn't have much of a chance here, and will be battling it out with Wario for last place.

Fox

Fox impressed last round by beating up on bottom tier Nintendo characters, and looks like he'll impress this round by beating up on some bottom tier Nintendo characters. Shame Mario is going to kick the crap out of him next round.

Wario

lol wario

Predictions:

Boooooooooooooring. The way Fox dominated last round proves he's higher on the Nintendo hierarchy than these chumps. He should have second easily wrapped up.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Sephiroth 50%, Fox 25%, Meta-Knight 15%, Wario 10%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Sephy > Fox
TuRtLe's Vote: Meta-Knight

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/8/2007 7:05:33 PM | message detail
Upset Probability: 5%

MK *could* upset Fox, as unlikely as it seems. People had strange faith in Peach for some reason, and there's always the chance that Fox looked a lot stronger than he should have due to cluster-**** Nintendo SFF and his opponents just being jobbers. Not counting out MK here at least, the little guy's got his sword and everything this time!



Transience’s Analysis

Sephiroth and three Nintendo guys. Sephiroth takes first, but who gets second?

well, that's easy -- Fox. he already embarrassed Wario last round, so he's out of the question. the only question here is Meta-Knight, and while he impressed like hell against Peach, he's now going against one of the biggest fan-favourites in Smash. Fox should sap a ton of that Smash support.. not that he really needs to, since he's already stronger than Meta-Knight. but this could be one of those 40-30-20-10 matches that are utterly boring to watch. Meta-Knight could potentially make a match of it if he draws a lot of his strength from the Kirby series, but I just can't see that happening. the thing got destroyed by Metroid of all things, and we saw how Ridley performed.

BRING ON THE PHOENIX MATCH

no blasters. no swords.
FINAL DESTINATION. Fox
destroys Meta-Knight.

transience's prediction: Sephiroth with 49.67%, Fox with 26.65%, Meta-Knight with 14.56%, Wario with 9.12%



Crew Consensus: Seph > Fox, woo fun.
trannyscience | Posted 10/8/2007 7:07:23 PM | message detail
if BB advances, he NEEDS to have another Naked Snake picture for the Sephiroth match. if he doesn't, this is a damn waste. at least Magus could potentially hurt Sephiroth!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2007 7:09:27 PM | message detail
According to that 4-way calculator thingy, Zero was projected to score 42% on his fourpack using 2k4 numbers, and giving Lloyd a value slightly lower than HK's.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/8/2007 7:10:05 PM | message detail
Raiden > Zero
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/8/2007 7:10:40 PM | message detail
Match XXXVII: Sephiroth vs Meta Knight vs Fox McCloud vs Wario

Past Matches

Round 1

Sephiroth - 55.23%
Meta Knight - 18.20%
Princess Peach - 15.35%
CATS - 11.22%

Fox McCloud - 45.63%
Wario - 22.51%
Captain Falcon - 18.79%
Banjo - 13.07%

Analysis

As bad as I did last round, especially in this division this is the only match where both of my winners aren’t present; sure there are others that have almost no chance at coming in the top two but at least they’re in the poll. Anyway Sephiroth was able to beat down his opponents while Meta Knight surprised the entire board by coming in second when most people weren’t even expecting him to beat CATS. Fox was able to win his all-SFF match and his reward, to be put in match with two more Nintendo characters and Sephiroth. After all the SFF was done Wario was the one on top and makes it to the next round as a formality.

Sephiroth will take first, in this poll we have three characters with very similar fanbases and even if the weren’t Sephiroth would’ve still easily destroyed them. Looking at what Fox did to Wario and if Meta Knight suffers the same fate Sephiroth could have little trouble breaking 50% or better yet outdoing Cloud’s percent. The only reason I could see Sephiroth failing to break 50% is if Fox fails to sap Meta Knight’s votes and if Fox also has legitimate strength.

Fox is the favorite to take second. Last round showed us that the SSB fanbase seems to favor Fox and while Meta Knight is hugely hyped about being in the game that still doesn’t take away from the fact that Fox is one of the most played characters in the game. It is great to see Fox back in the contest, but did all have his matches needed to contain a Nintendo character?

Meta Knight it the only one that has a chance at upsetting Fox. Despite only being announced to be in a SSB game Meta Knight was able to avoid losing any fanbase overlap to her. However Peach doesn’t seem like the type of character to SFF anyone. Also unlike some other characters Meta Knight actually has a fanbase outside of Smash. In the end Meta Knight will probably perform better than Wario, but he still has an uphill battle against Fox.

Wario will come in last, like Peach his fanbase crumbles in the sign of stronger Nintendo characters. Wario let Fox double him last round. Sure he was overrated because of Shadow, but since then he’s had several Wario Ware games released and an announcement to Brawl. Looking through all of the matches this round Wario will probably be the only character to fail to break 10% unless Link SFF Zelda.

Sephiroth will take first and Fox will probably take second. Since Peach isn’t in the poll I’m hoping that Meta Knight takes second just so my Peach upset doesn’t look so terrible.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sephiroth > Peach

charmander6000’s Prediction: Sephiroth - 52.53%, Fox - 21.02%, Meta Knight - 17.32%, Wario - 9.13%

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2007 7:30:08 PM | message detail
if BB advances, he NEEDS to have another Naked Snake picture for the Sephiroth match. if he doesn't, this is a damn waste. at least Magus could potentially hurt Sephiroth!

Big Boss pulling off the biggest and best upset of the contest (next to Phoenix winning this match <.<) is hardly a waste!

Though, yes, Big Boss does ALWAYS need a Naked Snake picture as well!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/8/2007 7:30:57 PM | message detail
How long will Phoenix have a lead on Mario? 2 minutes? 10?
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/8/2007 7:32:30 PM | message detail
What's LFF, and when and why did this new term originate?

Is it just something due to this format?

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2007 7:32:39 PM | message detail
I can see Phoenix leading for a couple of minutes, but his competition is much stiffer this round.

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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/8/2007 7:33:01 PM | message detail
Go Meta Knight!

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/8/2007 7:33:29 PM | message detail
LFF = leeching fanbase factor

Basically, what let Ryu come first last round and Ryu H come first last round.

Although thinking about it, neither of them really needed it <_<

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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/8/2007 7:34:17 PM | message detail
From DpObliVion Posted 10/8/2007 10:32:30 PM #141
What's LFF, and when and why did this new term originate?

Is it just something due to this format?


It's a fancy way of saying SFF. Ignore it, and drop the topic before we get another argument going on. <_<
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/8/2007 7:34:23 PM | message detail
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DpObliVion | Posted 10/8/2007 7:34:53 PM | message detail
You know what, I'll take that advice, Ashe.

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Lugia2 | Posted 10/8/2007 8:12:45 PM | message detail
I've got Fox, but I'd rather see Sir ***** Meta Knight. Woo MK!

We'll see how well he does; many of us smashers have been wishing for him since 2001. I mean, really, I prefer him to some of the other newbies (Wario? Pokemon Trainer). Still, he might collapse...

Still, we need to get him in next year. He's probably a mid-carder for heaven's sake!
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/8/2007 8:25:43 PM | message detail
Big Boss pulling off the biggest and best upset of the contest

You sicken me.

Even as far as potential MGS-related upsets go, Raiden > Zero would be far better, albeit far less likely.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2007 8:27:01 PM | message detail
pfft Raiden > Zero isn't an upset it's a guarantee
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