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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 511

Draco1214 | Posted 10/7/2007 2:01:14 AM | message detail
There is a second night vote on weekends. Remember Alucard made his comeback on Liquid with it.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/7/2007 2:10:08 AM | message detail
I don't know if that'll really apply to Xbox characters. Granted they were weekday matches, but both Marcus and Master Chief were rising significantly all the way to the end of their matches.
transience | Posted 10/7/2007 2:12:07 AM | message detail
Ocelot dropped pretty much from now until the end of the match, a full 2%, and that was on a weekend. it's pretty bleak, but it's possible.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/7/2007 2:13:58 AM | message detail
I still think Marcus is going to win, but there's a lot in favor of Ocelot.

1) Firstly Cloud will help take the edge off Marcus's day vote.
2) Next, Ocelot while he isn't good during the day, he isn't trash either. The Boss for example held up quite well against a strong day voter Tails.
3) It's a weekend, much more consistent vote all day
4) 1000 votes is a lot to turnaround in this format. I know he did 6 times that against Kefka, but he didnt have to deal with the 3 above points.

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TheCruelAngel | Posted 10/7/2007 2:42:01 AM | message detail
When Link breaks 45% against Vincent/Crono/Zero and Cloud fails to break 45% on Auron/Bowser/Marcus, I think hochi will be singing a different tune.

I want Link to put up such numbers, but that's a tall, tall order.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/7/2007 2:42:48 AM | message detail
I want Link to put up such numbers, but that's a tall, tall order.

It's not at all. The guy put up 42% against Sephiroth, Cloud, and Solid Snake.
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transience | Posted 10/7/2007 3:10:02 AM | message detail
I agree with Smurf's post, and will add that because there's a lot less votes to go around thanks to Cloud, he's not going to turn as many votes as he did vs. Kefka.

that said, that just means that the turnaround might be 1500-2000 votes instead of 6000. Ocelot's looking at a 1000 vote lead, maaaaaaybe a little more when 7am rolls around. Marcus has to be looked at as the favourite, but Ocelot's got a good chance too.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/7/2007 3:15:46 AM | message detail
Hmmm...in the Jill match, Ocelot pretty much spent the entire time bleeding percentage, but here, he's been remarkably consistent.
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 10/7/2007 4:48:27 AM | message detail
Kefka starts dropping off now but Ocelot is still able to hold himself.
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/7/2007 4:56:49 AM | message detail
As someone who has Cloud > Ocelot for this match in his bracket, I'm amazed Ocelot is still gaining with such ease. And Kefka's bombing now, so you know the day has arrived.
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greatone10 | Posted 10/7/2007 4:58:52 AM | message detail
Well, so much for Lettuce Kefka being a detriment to Kefka in these contests. He's facing Marcus Fenix again, and there doesn't seem to be any noticable difference from the last time he faced him.
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transience | Posted 10/7/2007 5:04:34 AM | message detail
okay I've never done this before so who knows if I'm doing it right

Time . . . Marcus . Kefka .. . Cloud . . Ocelot
01:00 | 15.57% | 16.00% | 51.28% | 17.15%
02:00 | 14.53% | 16.23% | 53.38% | 15.86%
03:00 | 14.29% | 15.90% | 52.41% | 17.39%
04:00 | 13.67% | 15.29% | 54.71% | 16.33%
05:00 | 12.99% | 14.53% | 56.17% | 16.31%
06:00 | 12.04% | 13.51% | 57.79% | 16.66%
07:00 | 12.68% | 12.65% | 56.43% | 18.25%
08:00 | 13.44% | 11.27% | 57.78% | 17.51%


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Draco1214 | Posted 10/7/2007 5:10:49 AM | message detail
Good God, Kefka...

It takes serious skill to suck that bad with the day vote.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/7/2007 5:13:11 AM | message detail
So far Marcus's heroics last round seem to be down to Kefka's blatant sucking, rather than anything amazing on his part.
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voltch | Posted 10/7/2007 5:32:08 AM | message detail
Cloud is pretty much trying to establish himself as the undisputed number 2 of these contests.
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consolefreak | Posted 10/7/2007 5:49:33 AM | message detail
Ocelot is holding his own when compared to Kefka. Marcus has been coming closer to him for a while now.
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108/144. Today : Cloud > Marcus. Tomorrow : Auron > Bowser
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Who Cares? | Posted 10/7/2007 5:54:41 AM | message detail
Nice to wake up seeing Ocelot leading, but I also notice Marcus is trying to mount a comeback. Thankfully Cloud's in the match so the comeback attempt is going to be much slower this time around...C'mon HANDGESTURE!
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/7/2007 5:56:16 AM | message detail
Geez 61% update from Cloud.
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consolefreak | Posted 10/7/2007 6:00:19 AM | message detail
Time . . . Marcus . Kefka .. . Cloud . . Ocelot
01:00 | 15.57% | 16.00% | 51.28% | 17.15%
02:00 | 14.53% | 16.23% | 53.38% | 15.86%
03:00 | 14.29% | 15.90% | 52.41% | 17.39%
04:00 | 13.67% | 15.29% | 54.71% | 16.33%
05:00 | 12.99% | 14.53% | 56.17% | 16.31%
06:00 | 12.04% | 13.51% | 57.79% | 16.66%
07:00 | 12.68% | 12.65% | 56.43% | 18.25%
08:00 | 13.44% | 11.27% | 57.78% | 17.51%


Where did you get your numbers? Because the 1st hour looks a little different on gamefaqscontests.com. Another number that I calculated (since it looked so low) was Marcus' 6th hour and I got 12.53%. Then I did Cloud's 8th hour (since it looked a little high) and I actually got 58.07%. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Are you just looking at the numbers on gamefaqscontests.com and going from there?

Whatever, I'm sure the general trends are correct and that the margin of error is neglectable :p
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108/144. Today : Cloud > Marcus. Tomorrow : Auron > Bowser
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/7/2007 6:02:34 AM | message detail
Slow comeback is slow.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/7/2007 6:08:04 AM | message detail
Has the morning vote started yet? If so Ocelot is looking pretty good.
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transience | Posted 10/7/2007 6:21:17 AM | message detail
uhh.. maybe the day vote will kick in later? xbox characters are traditionally afternoon guys, not morning guys.. whatever.

so far, this is a straight up stall.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/7/2007 6:25:50 AM | message detail
It's a weekend. Mornin=ASV, or someone similar to it.
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Kratos_42 | Posted 10/7/2007 6:29:51 AM | message detail
What're the chances of Fenix making a comeback, guys? *isn't looking back through the topic*
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consolefreak | Posted 10/7/2007 6:37:08 AM | message detail
^ He's doing it right now. I'd give him about a 70% chance to finish second.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/7/2007 6:39:12 AM | message detail
Fenix will finish above Kefka, but I think Ocelot is safe. He's still 1200 votes ahead of Fenix, a lead that only Phoenix Wright has managed to drop in this format.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/7/2007 6:40:21 AM | message detail
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consolefreak | Posted 10/7/2007 6:41:25 AM | message detail
Fenix will finish above Kefka, but I think Ocelot is safe. He's still 1200 votes ahead of Fenix, a lead that only Phoenix Wright has managed to drop in this format.

Yeah, to Bomberman. Marcus will be decreasing Ocelot's lead as he is doing now for hours upon hours, and he will start making bigger cuts soon.
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108/144. Today : Cloud > Marcus. Tomorrow : Auron > Bowser
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/7/2007 6:43:47 AM | message detail
I'm not saying that Fenix won't be able to pull a comeback, I'm just saying that I think that Ocelot won't lose a 1200 lead.

BTW Fenix hasn't cut that much on Ocelot, it's just Kefka who sucks at the dayvote while Cloud improves a lot.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/7/2007 6:44:37 AM | message detail
950 lead. Not 1200.

950 is the lead that Ocelot has over Kefka, he has about 1200 above Fenix.
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consolefreak | Posted 10/7/2007 6:46:11 AM | message detail
^ Yeah, not by a lot, you're right. But he is drawing in. And I believe the afternoon Xbox vote is a lot stronger than the morning vote? Well we'll see. I may have overdone it with the 70%, but I would certainly consider Marcus the favourite.
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108/144. Today : Cloud > Marcus. Tomorrow : Auron > Bowser
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/7/2007 6:48:07 AM | message detail
Cloud stealing all of the morning votes, I'm starting to worry if Marcus can come back against Ocelot.
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Match 35: Cloud > Marcus Fenix Points: 103/144
__Smurf__ | Posted 10/7/2007 6:51:41 AM | message detail
How many times have characters made large 1000+ comebacks on weekends in the past?
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/7/2007 6:53:05 AM | message detail
How many times have characters made large 1000+ comebacks on weekends in the past?

I think that Starcraft VS Wind Waker and Masterchief VS Donkey Kong were on weekends...
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transience | Posted 10/7/2007 6:57:44 AM | message detail
I think DK vs. MC was on a weekend.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/7/2007 6:57:59 AM | message detail
Well it doesn't look like Marcus slowed down during the last few hours of his match last round, but if he isn't close to Ocelot by 12 which is when the morning vote is done he'll have to rely on the day vote to get him the win.
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Match 35: Cloud > Marcus Fenix Points: 103/144
charmander6000 | Posted 10/7/2007 6:58:46 AM | message detail
MC/DK was on a Sunday.
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Match 35: Cloud > Marcus Fenix Points: 103/144
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/7/2007 7:01:16 AM | message detail
Time .| Marcus .| Kefka ...| Cloud ...| Ocelot
01:00 | 15.67% | 16.24% | 51.16% | 16.93%
02:00 | 14.51% | 15.98% | 53.31% | 16.21%
03:00 | 14.02% | 16.12% | 52.32% | 17.54%
04:00 | 13.95% | 14.81% | 55.13% | 16.11%
05:00 | 12.67% | 14.85% | 56.35% | 16.13%
06:00 | 12.14% | 13.47% | 57.42% | 16.97%
07:00 | 12.76% | 12.73% | 56.54% | 17.97%
08:00 | 13.70% | 10.90% | 57.94% | 17.45%
09:00 | 15.44% | 13.52% | 56.06% | 14.98%
10:00 | 14.84% | 12.65% | 58.53% | 13.98%

Not too impressed by Marcus's morning vote here.

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consolefreak | Posted 10/7/2007 7:03:15 AM | message detail
I remember MC taking over DK when it was 3-4 PM. So if Marcus has to rely on the day vote, that really shouldn't be a problem.
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108/144. Today : Cloud > Marcus. Tomorrow : Auron > Bowser
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/7/2007 7:05:55 AM | message detail
Yeah... even though it's a bit unfair to compare since Nintendo characters tend to excel the most at mornings, it's hard to ignore that the 7-9 hours were Master Chief's WORST time against Donkey Kong
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/7/2007 7:07:19 AM | message detail
Also, Master Chief didn't start stealing votes from DK's lead until noon
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/7/2007 7:07:32 AM | message detail
Let's keep up with those kinds of updates, shall we? ;o
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transience | Posted 10/7/2007 7:09:30 AM | message detail
yeah, that one was pretty good.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/7/2007 7:11:32 AM | message detail
You really can't compare comebacks in the past years with this year. Now there are four different characters. I'm not saying that Fenix is chanceless, but I would be surprised to see someone as Ocelot to drop that much in this format.
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transience | Posted 10/7/2007 7:24:36 AM | message detail
looks like he's getting into gear now.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/7/2007 7:26:39 AM | message detail
Oh tranny, you and your wit.
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transience | Posted 10/7/2007 7:27:44 AM | message detail
..augh
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/7/2007 7:30:45 AM | message detail
If Fenix can keep this updates up, then he will get in second..
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/7/2007 7:30:48 AM | message detail
Marcus did alot worse than I expected to overnight. He's got quite the uphill battle for him now. Kefka's going to fall any minute now, but Ocelot's going to be a bigger task.

And Cloud rising to heaven total now. I even went high for him and it was still to low!
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Marcus/Kefka/Cloud/Ocelot - Bracket: Cloud > Marcus - Vote: Ocelot (119/144)
yoshifan823 | Posted 10/7/2007 7:32:37 AM | message detail
I don't see how you people are calling what Marcus is doing a comeback. Ocelot's still gaining. Not as much, but still.

GO MARCUS!
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