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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 511

lil_leftee | Posted 10/6/2007 9:59:17 PM | message detail
stop voting for cloud ~_~
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won 1st place Character Battle IV (4) and 4th place in current contest (118 points)
Next Pick: Ryu > Auron
Yesmar | Posted 10/6/2007 10:00:02 PM | message detail
Random Question:

Is that link for RPGuy's Hourly Poll Updater supposed to just link me to Liquid/Alucard/Ness/Zidane or is there something I'm missing?
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/6/2007 10:00:21 PM | message detail
I think it's time to bring out the jumbo bag of corn.

Enjoy your jumbo bag of corn. Because when Bowser beats Ryu, you'll be eating a humble bag of corn

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Hochiminh155's Trail to Failure
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transience | Posted 10/6/2007 10:01:03 PM | message detail
Fenix down 182 votes in one hour. he'll be down 1000 votes by 7am at that pace.
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TexasAggie | Posted 10/6/2007 10:04:04 PM | message detail
smitelf
Posted 10/6/2007 9:56:07 PM
message detail You seriously think Kefka is hurting Cloud more than a character of equal strength with a completely unrelated fanbase would?



No, but Cloud isnt facing Kefka head to head. He's facing 3 people. People who would vote for an equal strength character from a completely unrelated fanbase probably wouldnt vote for Cloud in this poll anyway. But a lot of the people voting for Kefka would most certainly switch their votes to cloud if say Vercetti took Kefka's spot. Different voters have different allegiances. You still just dont get it; youd think after the whole board got embarrassed with the Bowser and Riku picks that they'd start to understand how LFF works.
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Contest pts: 115 (leaderboard position #27)
Today: Cloud>Jill
Master Moltar | Posted 10/6/2007 10:04:40 PM | message detail
Because when Bowser beats Ryu, you'll be eating a humble bag of corn

In a battle of wits, I see who reigns supreme !!
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Marcus/Kefka/Cloud/Ocelot - Bracket: Cloud > Marcus - Vote: Ocelot (119/144)
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/6/2007 10:06:14 PM | message detail
Hmm... Ocelot outstripping Kefka's lead at this point, and he should be more consistent (Kefka is WAY more front-loaded than just about anyone not named Phoenix Wright/L-Block).

Now that being said, Marcus' day vote being 'diluted' by Cloud seems like wishful thinking. The only 'dilution' will come from Ocelot being better than Kefka in the day. And again *checks* he's just not staying consistent right now.
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ZFS | Posted 10/6/2007 10:06:22 PM | message detail
Yeah -- we'll be seein' this little routine all night!

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let's mosey
transience | Posted 10/6/2007 10:06:28 PM | message detail
my god, these are the most fascinating updates I've ever seen. no stalls, no patterns, just random spikes and drops. it's like we've got vote stuffing in a Kefka match again! aww yeah

the only constant is Marcus dropping.. he's got a tall order in front of him unless he repeats that wild day vote he showed vs. Kefka.
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 10/6/2007 10:06:32 PM | message detail
damn it Kefka! STAY DOWN!
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/6/2007 10:07:15 PM | message detail
Kefka's broken!
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transience | Posted 10/6/2007 10:07:43 PM | message detail
oh, and who was saying Ocelot was "obviously" stronger than Kefka? with Cloud in the poll with him, he's losing by 65 votes. it's bound to be more than that, but... yeah.

Pac-Man predicting a close match what
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/6/2007 10:09:35 PM | message detail
Is that link for RPGuy's Hourly Poll Updater supposed to just link me to Liquid/Alucard/Ness/Zidane or is there something I'm missing?

You have to put in the current data yourself!
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transience | Posted 10/6/2007 10:09:55 PM | message detail
okay, Kefka dropoff in 3, 2, 1...
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ZFStix: kill it
transience | Posted 10/6/2007 10:11:43 PM | message detail
and now, Kefka will spike!

2005 memories
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ZFStix: kill it
DpObliVion | Posted 10/6/2007 10:11:54 PM | message detail
Marcus and Ocelot are staying even as Kefka goes in all sorts of different directions.

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smitelf | Posted 10/6/2007 10:15:26 PM | message detail
People who would vote for an equal strength character from a completely unrelated fanbase probably wouldnt vote for Cloud in this poll anyway.

Oh really? Prove this please. You're seeing fanbases as far too discrete for my liking.

You still just dont get it; youd think after the whole board got embarrassed with the Bowser and Riku picks that they'd start to understand how LFF works.

Since I got both of those matches correct in my bracket, why would I be embarrassed?

The big beneficiaries of Cloud and Kefka SFF are the other two in the poll, obviously. However, you're mistaken if you think Cloud isn't benefiting from the fact that Kefka is weak competition due to sharing a similar (though not exactly the same) fanbase. Link/Ganon might be a different story, because you would start to hit the ceiling of how many votes that series could get when there are other options available, but Kefka + Cloud isn't enough to get there.
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transience | Posted 10/6/2007 10:15:35 PM | message detail
okay... this is getting creepy.
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ZFStix: kill it
hochiminh155 | Posted 10/6/2007 10:18:26 PM | message detail
The big beneficiaries of Cloud and Kefka SFF are the other two in the poll, obviously. However, you're mistaken if you think Cloud isn't benefiting from the fact that Kefka is weak competition due to sharing a similar (though not exactly the same) fanbase. Link/Ganon might be a different story, because you would start to hit the ceiling of how many votes that series could get when there are other options available, but Kefka + Cloud isn't enough to get there.


As someone who is high on the leaderboard, you are completely wrong. That stupid bonus theory was presented in Day 1 when Rikku got close to Knux but was disproved in Day 2 when Diablo and Arthas killed each other. 2 days ago showed that Knuckles sucked and Vaan being there ultimately made her lose, it didn't help her. Nobody uses that bonus theory except for ignorant people.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/6/2007 10:19:16 PM | message detail
2005 memories

BARRIERS
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Marcus/Kefka/Cloud/Ocelot - Bracket: Cloud > Marcus - Vote: Ocelot (119/144)
BDawg | Posted 10/6/2007 10:20:50 PM | message detail
Too hard to figure out what's going on now, I'll just check it in the morning.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/6/2007 10:20:57 PM | message detail
83 vote barrier activate
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transience | Posted 10/6/2007 10:21:22 PM | message detail
Slowflake where are you
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ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD
ZFStix: kill it
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/6/2007 10:23:02 PM | message detail
crying over the bracket
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smitelf | Posted 10/6/2007 10:23:56 PM | message detail
From hochiminh155
That stupid bonus theory was presented in Day 1 when Rikku got close to Knux but was disproved in Day 2 when Diablo and Arthas killed each other. 2 days ago showed that Knuckles sucked and Vaan being there ultimately made her lose, it didn't help her.

I think we're talking about something totally different, because it was obvious that Vaan being in the match would hurt Rikku. Likewise it is clear that Arthas killed Diablo's chances against KOS-MOS. I'm not debating either of those things - I'm saying that Kefka is so weak that the chance of him drawing votes from Cloud is very low, while the chance of Cloud siphoning from Kefka is commensurately high. Their combined total doesn't change, but the distribution of it between the two does.
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TexasAggie | Posted 10/6/2007 10:25:33 PM | message detail
Hochiminh, you say true things.

I say we call a temporary truce until I end up making you leave the board.
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Contest pts: 115 (leaderboard position #27)
Today: Cloud>Jill
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/6/2007 10:32:00 PM | message detail
oh yeah, my Ocelot pick is working for now.
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Today: Mega Man > Knuckles - Vote: Mega Man
Tomorrow: Samus > Frog - Vote: Frog - Points: 105
PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/6/2007 10:34:13 PM | message detail
yeah, the only bad pick at the moment is frog.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/6/2007 10:44:17 PM | message detail
Last round, Kefka's lead peaked at 867.

By the end of the match, Marcus was up 5800.

That's a 6600 vote swing.

Ocelot needs at least 2000 to even make a match of this.

TuRtLe
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109/144 in the contest. Next pick: Cloud > Marcus Fenix
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ZhangJunyi | Posted 10/6/2007 10:46:38 PM | message detail
I hope Marcus wins so rarely anyone gets the perfect on this match. >.>

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Draco1214 | Posted 10/6/2007 10:47:30 PM | message detail
Is it me or is Cloud gaining at the expense of Marcus here?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/6/2007 10:48:31 PM | message detail
If Ocelot gets 2000 he'll be a good favorite at that point. There's WAY less votes for these guys to work with than last time.

That being said, he looks about done. We're entering the true night now and he's letting Kefka consistently gain on him. It may be slow, and they may both be extending their leads on Fenix, but it's just not near fast enough (not to mention there's almost zero reason to expect Fenix not to catch Kefka here).
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/6/2007 10:49:23 PM | message detail
One comment before I have to go: Cloud is scary in this format.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/6/2007 10:57:17 PM | message detail
Not really. Most expect Cloud to land somewhere in the low 50's, and I can't see him going any higher than 54%. You have to remember, as Kefka drops with the day vote, most of that percentage is going to Marcus.

TuRtLe
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109/144 in the contest. Next pick: Cloud > Marcus Fenix
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/6/2007 10:58:24 PM | message detail
That said, I think this will be a pissing match between him and Link. Link should be able to break 50% though, depending on whether or not Bidoof hurts him, and if Zelda can hold up better than Ganondorf did.

TuRtLe
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/6/2007 10:59:01 PM | message detail
as Kefka drops with the day vote, most of that percentage is going to Marcus.

Why would that be the case? Cloud spends almost every match doing nothing but going up and Kefka/Cloud share more of a fanbase than Kefka/Marcus.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/6/2007 10:59:26 PM | message detail
How much do you think Vincent gets normally on Cloud? 30%? If so, Link's going to have trouble getting 50%

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/6/2007 11:01:02 PM | message detail
Unless voters are idiots that get confused on Link and Zelda because of their names, Link not breaking 50% would be a massive shock. The man was in the 70s last round with 100000+ total votes...
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/6/2007 11:07:40 PM | message detail
The man was in the 70s last round with 100000+ total votes...


He BARELY broke 70% against 3 losers.
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Keno316 | Posted 10/6/2007 11:11:33 PM | message detail
I know you want to be confident in your upset pick. But to actually downplay Link's 70% dominance?!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/6/2007 11:13:53 PM | message detail
70% against 2 losers and a joke character is pretty damn good.

Samus barely broke 80% on Nidoran F in a single match.

TuRtLe
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109/144 in the contest. Next pick: Cloud > Marcus Fenix
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/6/2007 11:15:29 PM | message detail
When Link breaks 45% against Vincent/Crono/Zero and Cloud fails to break 45% on Auron/Bowser/Marcus, I think hochi will be singing a different tune.

TuRtLe
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109/144 in the contest. Next pick: Cloud > Marcus Fenix
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TexasAggie | Posted 10/6/2007 11:17:59 PM | message detail
Cloud has a worse pack, Auron LFF will be a big deal in that match.
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Contest pts: 115 (leaderboard position #27)
Today: Cloud>Jill
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/6/2007 11:20:32 PM | message detail
Wait wait wait.... so you think that Auron/Bowser/Marcus Fenix is a stronger group than Crono, Vincent and Zero?

TuRtLe
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109/144 in the contest. Next pick: Cloud > Marcus Fenix
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/6/2007 11:36:02 PM | message detail
I would be utterly shocked if Link failed to break 50% on Vincent/Zelda/Bidoof. I mean, look at this domination:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2564
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transience | Posted 10/7/2007 12:09:38 AM | message detail
yeesh, Marcus is flat out bad overnight.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/7/2007 12:10:15 AM | message detail
The lead between Kefka/Marcus in their previous match and Ocelot/Marcus now looks to be growing at the same pace. The lead at this time in the Kefka match was 553 while Ocelot's lead right now is 550.

How high does Ocelot's lead need to be before you feel safe with him advancing?
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Who the hell do you think you are getting off being so egotistical like that? - hochiminh155 to Takfloyd_mkII__
Keno316 | Posted 10/7/2007 12:13:47 AM | message detail
Wow...Cloud is just owning up the night vote now.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/7/2007 12:14:30 AM | message detail
yeesh, Marcus is flat out bad overnight.

...that's what it means to be great in the day. We already knew that from last round.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/7/2007 1:55:14 AM | message detail
Well, since this is a weekend match, the turnaround shouldn't be quite as severe. I just don't think Ocelot is pulling away enough though, considering that the day vote will likely go from 8am or so to the end of the match with no respite.
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