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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 510

Haste_2 | Posted 10/5/2007 10:35:17 PM | message detail
The "Samus can't SFF Nintendo characters" myth.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2007 10:35:25 PM | message detail
I said earlier, if Zero fails to get within 5% of Crono, I'll abandon the upset.

TuRtLe
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105/132 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Frog
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
ZFS | Posted 10/5/2007 10:38:15 PM | message detail
but zero is also > sub-zero

I wouldn't be so sure, myself.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2007 10:40:08 PM | message detail
Sub-Zero barely broke 40% on Auron.

I'd expect Zero to at the very least close in on 45% there.

TuRtLe
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105/132 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Frog
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
transience | Posted 10/5/2007 10:40:13 PM | message detail
Frog shouldn't get hit *too* hard in the daytime. I think with it being a weekend, some of this are day voters up late. that should lower his expected damage somewhat.

that said, Frog's like "4am? well, I'm done for", so expect to see him drop off pretty soon.
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 10/5/2007 10:40:20 PM | message detail
proof #1: 0 > sub-0

>_>
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/5/2007 10:41:28 PM | message detail
That would make Luigi pretty damn close to post-KHII Auron. Unless Luigi and Zero are indirectly equal and their match was a product of Nintendo SFF (>_>), I'm not sure if I'm buying that one.
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JustForFun1988 | Posted 10/5/2007 10:44:13 PM | message detail
Zero will end up closer to Raiden than to Crono. Why, because Raiden is going to take second in that match.

Just kidding. (Runs away.)
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2007 10:44:37 PM | message detail
I've shared my thoughts on Luigi/Zero.

Even if you think Zero dropped, Luigi embarassed him and Kirby then went and performed exactly as expected against Sonic. At the time, most thought it was Sonic boosting due to his match with Crono, but I think that idea was shot down in flames after Sonic/Snake.

My point is, if you think Zero/Luigi was legit, Zero would have had to have had one of the biggest drops in contest history, bigger than Ryu's 2k5 performance.

TuRtLe
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105/132 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Frog
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
hochiminh155 | Posted 10/5/2007 10:44:44 PM | message detail
Zero is not what he was in 2004. He sorta fell in 2005 and he fell even more in 2006. It would be prudent to assume he's even weaker. His Round 1 match against three jobbers was disgraceful.

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Haste_2 | Posted 10/5/2007 10:44:51 PM | message detail
I hope you're only saying that for one-on-one, because Sub-Zero would beat Zero without a sweat in this format. =p

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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/5/2007 10:45:08 PM | message detail
He won't do as badly as he normally does, since the during-school vote is spread throughout the day as well as the morning and afterschool, but it's still going to be pretty ugly. He's against three day characters*, that can't possibly end well.

*Well, actually one balanced day character, one morning character, and one fairly neutral character...but it's still bad news.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2007 10:46:23 PM | message detail
Holy ass, I just looked at the 2k6 stats and realized how close Ryu and Bowser were. Scaaaaaaaary.

TuRtLe
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105/132 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Frog
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2007 10:49:21 PM | message detail
But Zero was in a 2-D fighter too

Zero > Crono/Vincent confirmed!

TuRtLe
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105/132 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Frog
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/5/2007 10:51:29 PM | message detail
Not only was Zero in a 2D fighter, He was the best one in that game!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2007 10:54:13 PM | message detail
Zero > Link confirmed!

TuRtLe
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105/132 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Frog
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
Keno316 | Posted 10/5/2007 10:54:18 PM | message detail
But Zero was in a 2-D fighter too

Zero > Crono/Vincent confirmed!



Crono/Vincent aren't Sonic...
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/5/2007 10:54:35 PM | message detail
And now, for no other reason than my boredom, I give you THE TOP 10 "BADASSES OF THE BRACKET" (Shoddily put together in under five minutes!)

10. Sub-Zero
9. Dante
8. Leon Kennedy
7. Ryu
6. Auron
5. Kratos
4. Master Chief
3. Captain Falcon
2. Samus Aran
1. Solid Snake

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2007 10:55:53 PM | message detail
A badassery list with no Zero? I call shenanigans.

And that Ryu you speak of better be Hayabusa

TuRtLe
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105/132 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Frog
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
JustForFun1988 | Posted 10/5/2007 10:56:29 PM | message detail
10. Sub-Zero
9. Dante
8. Leon Kennedy
7. Ryu
6. Auron
5. Kratos
4. Master Chief
3. Captain Falcon
2. Samus Aran
1. Solid Snake


You have good taste if you have Solid Snake for first. Btw, which Ryu is that.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2007 10:56:38 PM | message detail
How many 2-D fighters were Crono and Vincent in?

Yeah, that's right.

TuRtLe
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105/132 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Frog
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
YoAriel33 | Posted 10/5/2007 10:58:03 PM | message detail
"Ceremony means nothing. The fight is everything."

Yeah, sorry. It's Street Fighter Ryu. You don't get known for quotes like that and then fail to make TOP BADASS lists.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2007 10:59:28 PM | message detail
And it probably doesn't need to be said, but the Kratos on your list better be the Kratos that doesn't suck

TuRtLe
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105/132 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Frog
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
YoAriel33 | Posted 10/5/2007 11:00:35 PM | message detail
It's the one who screams and stabs things.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2007 11:01:08 PM | message detail
It better be

TuRtLe
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105/132 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Frog
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 10/5/2007 11:02:15 PM | message detail
Stats Topics past 491 haven't been saved?

They have. I've uploaded up to part 509 to the archive.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/5/2007 11:02:29 PM | message detail
The one who screams INDIGNATION JUDGEMENT m i rite
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JustForFun1988 | Posted 10/5/2007 11:03:22 PM | message detail
THE TOP 5 BADASSES WITH LONG HAIR
1. The Boss
2. Liquid Snake
3. Samus
4. Sephiroth
5. Zero
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/5/2007 11:06:28 PM | message detail
If my list wasn't so shoddily put together, The Boss would have found her way on it.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2007 11:13:53 PM | message detail
OVER/UNDER: Does Cloud break 50% tomorrow?

TuRtLe
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105/132 in the contest. Next pick: Samus > Frog
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
ZFS | Posted 10/5/2007 11:15:19 PM | message detail
Well over 50%.

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JustForFun1988 | Posted 10/5/2007 11:16:05 PM | message detail
Over. Kefka won't be taking up too much percent since he will be SFF. As for Ocelot and Marcus, i will see them hanging around with 17-18%.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 10/5/2007 11:16:32 PM | message detail
If Cloud breaks 50%, he's in good shape. If not, he's weakened since last year.


Cloud: 51%
Marcus: 19%
Ocelot: 17%
Kefka: 13%

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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/5/2007 11:16:41 PM | message detail
Over.

If Marcus + Kefka >> Jill + Zolom enough to bring Cloud down 11.25%, I'd be shocked.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/5/2007 11:16:53 PM | message detail
You put Zero below Sephiroth and Liquid?

Whats wrong with you?
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Lopen | Posted 10/6/2007 12:10:36 AM | message detail
Dante not at number one = epic fail of badass list.

Glad to see Scorpion handling that damned Frog. I'm thinking Scorpion actually takes the day vote here because the MK day vote has seemed pretty respectable and he's at a much lower % than Samus. Plus Samus is more frontloaded than MK is. At least I'd think... maybe not... Sub-Zero did do his Test Your Might crap on Sonic a couple of times early in the poll.

All this being said, I'm pretty disappointed in Scorpion here, actually. Seems he really is a good notch below Sub-Zero. I prefer Scorpion, myself. GET OVER HERE! > ice balls. Here I was thinkin Scorpion would be strong enough to take an update or two from Samus like Sub-Zero did to Sonic. Alas.

And good that we finally have concrete evidence to help lay that "Samus can't SFF" thing to rest. Midna crashing and burning here.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/6/2007 12:15:03 AM | message detail
I have a feeling she'll prove it again next round. Really, outside of a company's absolute power players (Link, Cloud, Mario), I don't think anybody has perfectly predictable SFF trends. Samus did poorly against Mario and Zelda, so-so against Ganondorf, held up very well against Link, and is now stomping Midna into the ground. She's run the SFF gamut, and she's always sat pretty as Nintendo's #3.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/6/2007 12:17:22 AM | message detail
Samus seems to be having a night collapse. Only got ~40% that last 15 minutes
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transience | Posted 10/6/2007 12:23:32 AM | message detail
whoa, I guess so. pretty sure she takes the day vote here though.
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Lopen | Posted 10/6/2007 12:24:05 AM | message detail
I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't think Samus is good in SFF situations, but when some people were saying she just couldn't do it at all and that Midna would hold up, I had to disagree. It's Midna, people.

I dunno. It's definitely debatable, but I think Mega Man will prove to be the SFF force next round. I've always supported Mega Man SFFing her, and I'm not about to stop now. And really, aside from Link, Mega Man's got more support for holding up better in SFF situations, as that was the only SFF affair in which he disappointed.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/6/2007 12:24:32 AM | message detail
go samus im gonna g o to sleep
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/6/2007 12:26:20 AM | message detail
Also, over 3 hours in and Frog hasn't even dropped yet. I guess the rules are a little different on weekends
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/6/2007 12:27:14 AM | message detail
A little reassurance today. Knuckles fought back... well I won't say nicely but at least an improvement. And MK shows it's power today (again), so Sonic's showing against Sub doesn't look quite as bad.

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Lopen | Posted 10/6/2007 12:28:14 AM | message detail
I am diggin these 27% updates from Scorpion though. I figured Frog would be hurting him now more than Samus would be hurting him in the day, and that he'd increase... but I'm not so sure with these 27%s. Him pulling those in the day would kinda surprise me considering what he started at.

I suppose it's possible that Scorpion just goes up and up and up, though. I think he'd be the early vote loser by far, actually. Little bracket support, he's not Nintendo for the Power Hour, and he's not friggin Frog who always seems to have a stupid early vote for whatever reason.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/6/2007 12:32:40 AM | message detail
Looks like Scorpion just had a 30 minute round of test your might
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/6/2007 12:34:31 AM | message detail
Mega Man's performance against Zero was really disappointing. Zero may be his series' Auron, but Mega Man is no Tidus. There was no excuse for a 56/44 split. I also think his win over Sonic, while exciting, was hardly impressive. He was the big bracket favorite and was perceived to be at least a clear notch above Sonic going into the match. Apart from those, his only other SFF matches were against Zelda in 2003 (a good performance) and the 2005 Yoshi debacle, which I feel the dino made up for yesterday.

Don't get me wrong; I still feel Mega Man has a very good chance at first place, but if it happens, it will be because of Yoshi. In a straight match, I'd take Samus easily.
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transience | Posted 10/6/2007 12:36:37 AM | message detail
you have to remember that Sonic kind of boosted in 2005 though. by the time that match rolled around, it was a tossup.

as for Yoshi affecting things there.. if he can get 30% on Mega Man straight up, I can't see him hurting Samus any more. what's he gonna get, 35-40%?
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transience | Posted 10/6/2007 12:37:55 AM | message detail
nice cut by Frog there. he's doing a lot better right now than he did vs. Axel.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 10/6/2007 12:38:49 AM | message detail
Well, I just think that MM/Yoshi match was a lot more scewed than even SFF would have accounted for.

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transience | Posted 10/6/2007 12:40:27 AM | message detail
HE WAS CLEARLY DODGING THE SHOT.
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