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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 510
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:49:56 PM | message detail |
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I might be missing something here, but what are the theories that point
to Samus/Snake being an anomaly? What happens if there's a rematch,
say, tomorrow? --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| ejm5446 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:50:04 PM | message detail |
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First Round Overall Rankings - Votes 103,465 Link 87,496 Cloud Strife 76,130 Mario 74,190 Sephiroth 73,706 Solid Snake 70,743 Mega Man 70,546 Samus Aran 67,963 Dante 64,543 Auron 63,805 Ganondorf 62,987 Luigi 60,534 Crono 59,910 Master Chief 57,670 Ryu Hayabusa 57,652 Kirby 55,989 Yoshi 55,265 Vincent Valentine 54,609 Fox McCloud 52,982 Sora 51,641 Leon Kennedy 50,230 Zero 50,042 Sonic the Hedgehog 49,754 Ryu (Street Fighter) 48,265 Kratos 47,724 Scorpion 46,278 Squall Leonhart 44,717 Pikachu 44,524 Marcus Fenix 43,939 Knuckles the Echidna 43,344 Ada Wong 42,830 Rikku 42,692 Zelda 41,521 Sub-Zero 40,116 L-Block 39,729 Vivi Ornitier 39,571 Yuna 39,354 Magus 39,225 Bowser 39,185 Shadow the Hedgehog 38,913 Duke Nukem 38,881 Tidus 38,712 Kefka 38,131 Gordon Freeman 37,971 Mudkip 37,234 Balthier Bunansa 37,086 Ike 35,430 Liquid Snake 35,427 Alucard 34,293 Riku 34,197 Mewtwo 33,367 Aeris Gainsborough 33,266 Donkey Kong 32,698 Lara Croft 32,413 Ness 32,182 Midna 31,431 Amaterasu 30,548 Phoenix Wright 30,518 Albert Wesker 30,467 Bomberman 30,234 Big Boss 30,185 Akuma 28,609 Nightmare 27,474 Kratos Aurion 27,107 Crash Bandicoot 27,044 HK-47 26,937 Wario 25,822 KOS-MOS 25,683 Lloyd Irving 25,650 Pit 25,410 Frog 25,316 Raiden 25,282 Axel 25,256 Revolver Ocelot 25,168 Vergil 24,944 Sam Fisher 24,832 Marth 24,453 Meta Knight 24,297 Ridley 24,234 Zidane Tribal 24,148 Pyramid Head 24,030 Jak 23,419 Bidoof 22,874 Agent 47 22,851 Little Mac 22,708 Frank West 22,690 Prince of Persia 22,633 The Boss 22,614 Tom Nook 22,482 Captain Falcon 22,287 Miles 'Tails' Prower 22,253 Roxas 22,248 Jill Valentine 22,011 Laharl 21,979 Thrall 21,950 Arthas Menethil 21,603 Diablo 21,496 Isaac 21,339 Chris Redfield 21,141 Geno 20,613 Princess Peach 19,268 Tommy Vercetti 18,987 Ratchet 17,009 Serge 15,910 Matt (Wii Sports) 15,638 Banjo 15,164 Zelos Wilder 15,075 Sarah Kerrigan 15,068 CATS 15,064 Vaan 14,836 Simon Belmont 14,817 Guybrush Threepwood 13,902 Prince of All Cosmos 13,895 Toad 13,397 Miles Edgeworth 13,380 Vyse 13,289 Pac-Man 13,031 Spyro the Dragon 12,382 PaRappa 11,991 Viewtiful Joe 11,819 Wander 11,695 Haseo 11,649 Rayman 10,436 Tingle 10,334 Daxter 10,098 Nathan Hale 9,529 Jade Curtiss 7,874 Midgar Zolom 6,468 Agent J |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2007 9:50:08 PM | message detail |
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Even if Samus/Snake wasn't legit (*sigh*), Mega Man is a good deal
weaker than Snake, and we've seen Link beat the crap out of him before.
FF7/MGS has its support, but it's hardly a unanimous theory, and Snake
is likely an exception to the 'rule' anyway at this point - it
shouldn't be surprising against him holding up against any member of
Clinkeroth. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| ejm5446 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:50:14 PM | message detail |
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First RoundOverall Rankings - PCT 70.50% Link 61.24% Cloud Strife 57.91% Mario 57.88% Solid Snake 55.23% Sephiroth 51.75% Samus Aran 50.49% Mega Man 49.19% Dante 49.10% Ganondorf 48.18% Crono 45.96% Luigi 45.80% Ryu Hayabusa 45.69% Master Chief 45.63% Fox McCloud 44.39% Kirby 43.26% Auron 41.87% Sora 40.13% Kratos 40.13% Leon Kennedy 39.64% Sonic the Hedgehog 39.56% Zero 38.68% Vincent Valentine 38.42% Ada Wong 36.79% Marcus Fenix 36.64% Scorpion 36.62% Pikachu 36.30% Ryu (Street Fighter) 35.48% Yoshi 35.33% Squall Leonhart 33.00% Balthier Bunansa 32.89% Sub-Zero 31.99% Kefka 31.84% Tidus 30.89% L-Block 30.87% Magus 30.87% Vivi Ornitier 30.18% Duke Nukem 30.18% Yuna 29.88% Zelda 29.57% Gordon Freeman 28.76% Ike 28.62% Bowser 27.84% Knuckles the Echidna 27.79% Liquid Snake 27.79% Alucard 27.71% Mudkip 27.66% Donkey Kong 27.24% Riku 27.14% Rikku 26.26% Shadow the Hedgehog 25.84% Lara Croft 25.48% Aeris Gainsborough 25.42% Ness 24.95% Mewtwo 24.71% Midna 24.12% Albert Wesker 23.96% Phoenix Wright 23.90% Bomberman 23.05% Akuma 23.00% Big Boss 22.75% Amaterasu 22.51% Wario 22.47% Nightmare 21.30% HK-47 21.26% Crash Bandicoot 21.09% Kratos Aurion 20.65% Marth 20.22% Lloyd Irving 20.15% Raiden 20.13% Frank West 19.86% Sam Fisher 19.37% Vergil 19.01% Zidane Tribal 18.92% Jak 18.88% Ridley 18.79% Captain Falcon 18.72% Pit 18.69% Tom Nook 18.64% Frog 18.55% Axel 18.43% KOS-MOS 18.20% Meta Knight 17.97% Prince of Persia 17.68% Revolver Ocelot 17.67% Roxas 17.60% Isaac 17.56% Agent 47 16.95% Laharl 16.91% Thrall 16.54% Little Mac 16.18% Pyramid Head 16.14% Geno 15.96% Bidoof 15.84% The Boss 15.67% Arthas Menethil 15.60% Miles 'Tails' Prower 15.57% Jill Valentine 15.42% Diablo 15.35% Princess Peach 14.69% Tommy Vercetti 14.61% Ratchet 14.30% Chris Redfield 13.93% Serge 13.07% Banjo 12.53% Zelos Wilder 11.81% Simon Belmont 11.56% Prince of All Cosmos 11.52% Matt (Wii Sports) 11.49% Guybrush Threepwood 11.22% CATS 11.06% Sarah Kerrigan 10.51% Vyse 10.14% Toad 10.13% Spyro the Dragon 10.11% Pac-Man 9.54% Vaan 9.50% Viewtiful Joe 9.44% PaRappa 9.29% Haseo 9.15% Rayman 9.13% Miles Edgeworth 8.99% Wander 8.45% Jade Curtiss 8.17% Daxter 7.78% Nathan Hale 7.62% Tingle 5.51% Midgar Zolom 4.41% Agent J |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 9:50:41 PM | message detail |
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umm, anyway. let's talk about something else. I have a random idea -- Squall/Knuckles being a fluke result. it really doesn't make any sense, nor does it explain the other Sonic characters floundering thus far, but if you take Knuckles by his old values and expectations, this looks fairly "legit". it also helps explain Magus bombing that Phoenix match. I'm pretty skeptical of it myself, but the numbers do kind of add up. just something to think about. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2007 9:51:14 PM | message detail |
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I might be missing something here, but what are the theories that
point to Samus/Snake being an anomaly? What happens if there's a
rematch, say, tomorrow? Samus wins - the idea is that Snake is indirectly stronger and that Samus rSFFed him. (though Snake finishes closer believe yes I am saying this with MP3 in mind gah) --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:52:59 PM | message detail |
| But Mega Man isn't a good deal weaker than Snake
without his Smash powers. That's the argument I'm making here. Before
Smash, Mega Man beat Snake fairly comfortably. Snake was putting
Samus-like numbers on MM and Sonic before putting MM/Sonic-like numbers
on Samus. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 9:53:33 PM | message detail |
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the "Samus rSFFed Snake" idea is something I kind of believe in, but
not something I'd ever bother arguing. it only really matters in
regards to a head-to-head match since they're 5-6 in the stats, and a
head to head matchup would repeat the same result. it might matter in
terms of the female bracket being overrated, but we all knew that the
second the stats were made, so why bother bringing it up? --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/4/2007 9:53:44 PM | message detail |
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BT, I've been one of the few people who has defended you in these topics... ...right now, please shut up and give us a night's break. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:53:47 PM | message detail |
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Well Knuckles did have a huge bandwagon going after beating Magus. And
he's always done very well against Square. As for MM > Seph, the
problem is Link is in that poll. --- Character Battle VI -- Points: 91/128 -- T-757 (156 way) Bracket: Megaman > KOS-MOS -- Vote: Megaman |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2007 9:54:01 PM | message detail |
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I've postulated Squall/Knuckles being an anomaly before (born of
Knuckles bandwagoning after his upset of Magus, anyone who was there at
the time knows how big that was on the board at the very least), but
this match isn't particularly proof of that. Neither is Magus, he might
just have simply dropped off even more (hell, look at Frog). --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Keno316 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:54:03 PM | message detail |
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Man, Sonic looks so bad in those lists! --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:54:13 PM | message detail |
| tranny, if you wanted to go down that route, you
should have went with Squall/Vincent and Squall/Snake being flukes.
Perhaps, Squall does well in potential SFF situations or something, as
evidenced by his first round match, and his utter thrashing of Tidus. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 9:55:59 PM | message detail |
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I've postulated Squall/Knuckles being an anomaly before (born of
Knuckles bandwagoning after his upset of Magus, anyone who was there at
the time knows how big that was on the board at the very least), but
this match isn't particularly proof of that. Neither is Magus, he might
just have simply dropped off even more (hell, look at Frog). aw yeah analysis crew taking knuckles, what yeah, like I said, it's just a random thought. I've been skeptical of that result for a long time too. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:56:36 PM | message detail |
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I have a random idea -- Squall/Knuckles being a fluke result. it
really doesn't make any sense, nor does it explain the other Sonic
characters floundering thus far, but if you take Knuckles by his old
values and expectations, this looks fairly "legit". it also helps
explain Magus bombing that Phoenix match. I'm pretty skeptical of it
myself, but the numbers do kind of add up. Hmm...Yoshi/Dante/Knuckles/Magus being equal does seem pretty weird (or, more likely, flat out wrong) given what we've seen this contest, and I'd struggle to come up with a reason why Yoshi and Dante would impress in this format while Knux and Magus falter. That seems like a really weird match to be flukey, but it's not like that hasn't happened before. Hard to say, though, since we missed Knux and Magus last year and Knux' equal, Dante, was behind a probably anomalous match in Snake/Yoshi. So I don't know. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:56:36 PM | message detail |
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My point was that if Samus SFF'd Snake, then why couldn't Link? We all
saw Snake's percentage divvy up pretty evenly before the final day, so
that seems to indicate that MGS/FF7 SFF was matched by Link/Smash boost
SFF which meant the Snake that beat the weakened Sephiroth is actually
at the Sonic/MM level. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:58:16 PM | message detail |
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It's actually just something I threw out there. I don't particularly
believe it, but it'd be an awesome upset, even though it wouldn't be
worth any points. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 9:58:25 PM | message detail |
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well the other option would be a Yoshi boost, if you want to talk pure
x-stats. and having seen Riku... I don't think so. then again, I think
that match is kinda fluky too. yay, throwing out results that I don't
like! --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2007 9:58:45 PM | message detail |
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But Mega Man isn't a good deal weaker than Snake without his Smash powers. That's the argument I'm making here. You assume that Snake's support was completely siphoned however, which is patently incorrect. Look at how much Samus was expected to get on Mega Man in 2k5, Snake scored more despite this supposed theoretical rSFF. Snake boosted significantly every time a Nintendo character was eliminated in the Battle Royale. Even being sapped, Snake is just plain stronger than Mega - and that's assuming MEGA wasn't sapping him in his own match. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| WildCherrySoul | Posted 10/4/2007 9:59:15 PM | message detail |
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Knux is losing bad because of SFF. We'll see how strong he really is next year. --- - Owner of TWO sticky topics! Pearl Code: 3952 3520 2488 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/4/2007 10:00:10 PM | message detail |
| If Snake's boost last year was primarily caused by
SSBB, then Link would only be able to SFF that part away. Hence, Snake
would be reduced to his 2005 strength. Snake 2005 > the Megaman we
saw getting SFF'd by Link in 2004. --- Character Battle VI -- Points: 91/128 -- T-757 (156 way) Bracket: Megaman > KOS-MOS -- Vote: Megaman |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 10:01:13 PM | message detail |
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I still don't believe MM/Nintendo SFF. Knuckles getting destroyed here
seems to indicate that it's some other type of SFF that decided
MM/Yoshi. As for MM/Link, the result we got from that match pointed to
MM/Sonic being roughly equal no? Maybe 2005 wasn't a huge Sonic boost
after all, and he was that close to Mega Man in 2004? Either that or it was the horribly biased match pictures. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 10:01:18 PM | message detail |
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the SFF idea kiiiiiinda makes sense.. but then, what happened with Mega Man / Sonic? rSFF? at this point, we get really ridiculous and just start making up ideas -- you know, the whole BT thing -- just to support our ridiculous assumptions. I think the simplest answer is probably the best one - Knuckles is just weaker this year, or the format is eating him alive. your pick. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2007 10:02:29 PM | message detail |
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And the idea behind the SFF in total is that you can *never* take 100%
of it away. You can have extremely severe overlap, a la Link/Ganon, but
even in something like Mario/Ness you see a stronger showing from Ness
than he would have ever had prior to Smash Brothers. Hard as it may
seem, Snake *did* garner fans from his Smash trailers that would vote
him over anyone else - including Link. It's not necessarily a LOT, but it's significant. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 10:02:48 PM | message detail |
| But that's the beauty of my little idea. We've
seen MGS/FF7 SFF before, so why not with Snake Cloud and Sephiroth in
the same poll? Like I said, it isn't something I seriously believe, and
it might not even have the chance to happen, but if the Snake in the
Battle Royale was being crippled by both Cloud and Link, then Mega Man
would have a decent shot in his place. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 10:04:00 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man Yoshi and Knuckles are all colourful platforming characters
that have been around for a long time. They have quite a bit in common. It's either you believe that, or Mega Man is suddenly at Clinkeroth levels. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/4/2007 10:05:14 PM | message detail |
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Knux is probably getting SFF'd here, but then Yoshi is, too, and a ten
percent spread is an awful lot to be explained by disproportionate SFF. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 10:05:15 PM | message detail |
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Meh, I'm done arguing MM > Sephiroth. It really isn't worth it, and
it's a pretty out-there upset, even by my standards. Like I said, it's
just an idea I had that I thought would be a really kickass result. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2007 10:05:17 PM | message detail |
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I still don't believe MM/Nintendo SFF. Knuckles getting destroyed
here seems to indicate that it's some other type of SFF that decided
MM/Yoshi. Or maybe - *gasp* - Mega Man, Yoshi, and Knuckles ALL have overlap! After bringing up Sonic/Luigi so much... As for MM/Link, the result we got from that match pointed to MM/Sonic being roughly equal no? Maybe 2005 wasn't a huge Sonic boost after all, and he was that close to Mega Man in 2004? You remember how badly Sonic got demolished by Samus in 2004? How he was losing to Ryu for a while? How much better he looked in 2k5 in every match? Sonic boosted. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 10:07:21 PM | message detail |
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Or maybe - *gasp* - Mega Man, Yoshi, and Knuckles ALL have overlap! After bringing up Sonic/Luigi so much... That was... kind of my point. Their overlap comes from being plaltforming characters. Link isn't a platforming character. It's a stretch I know, but it's something that that upset, and Zero advancing depends on. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| WildCherrySoul | Posted 10/4/2007 10:08:29 PM | message detail |
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I'll try to explain my idea as best as I can. I think it's safe to say that there is a shared fanbase between old-school Nintendo characters and characters from the Mega Man franchise. That's proven with Link/MM, MM/Yoshi, and Mario/Zero (slightly). You could make a case that Sonic characters would fall within that same fanbase as well (as well as characters like Pac-Man and other icons). Who doesn't expect a weird result between Mario/Sonic? With all those characters within the same fanbase, the fanbase will be split in some matches. The main characters (Link, Mario, Mega Man, Sonic) will always look stronger then the weaker characters (Zelda, Yoshi, Zero, Knuckles). For Mega Man/Yoshi/Knuckles, Mega Man would SFF Yoshi and Knuckles. Also, since it's proven that Mario > Sonic on this site, Yoshi would SFF Knuckles. So, Knuckles looks a lot weaker then he actually is. The only case against this theory that I know of is Sonic/Zero, but that was 2003 when Mega Man as a whole was much stronger, and Sonic as a whole was much weaker. It makes sense to me. --- - Owner of TWO sticky topics! Pearl Code: 3952 3520 2488 |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 10:08:41 PM | message detail |
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it's the same spread as round 1, which scares me. Mega Man is literally
doing nothing to affect the gaps between the two characters. either
Yoshi himself is SFFing Knuckles (if this is true, watch out
Mario/Sonic), or Mega Man's SFFing them both equally. given that
Yoshi's going from 32% to what looks like 26%, he's not exactly hurting
for support here. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2007 10:09:52 PM | message detail |
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Suggesting that it's platformer SFF as opposed to Nintendo SFF seems to
be reaching if you don't have any concrete proof to suggest the former.
It requires a much more specific banner and an alternate explanation of
Link/Mega Man... whereas there is only one postulation for the
alternative - that Mega Man functions as a Nintendo character. And as
has been discussed at length, he has PLENTY of reason to do so. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 10:09:57 PM | message detail |
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With all those characters within the same fanbase, the fanbase will
be split in some matches. The main characters (Link, Mario, Mega Man,
Sonic) will always look stronger then the weaker characters (Zelda,
Yoshi, Zero, Knuckles). For Mega Man/Yoshi/Knuckles, Mega Man would SFF
Yoshi and Knuckles. Also, since it's proven that Mario > Sonic on
this site, Yoshi would SFF Knuckles. So, Knuckles looks a lot weaker
then he actually is. I have one word -- Shadow. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 10:11:03 PM | message detail |
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I just realized something I had overlooked in previous arguments. Mega
Man/Zelda 2003, went pretty much by the numbers. If there was a
significant MM/Zelda overlap as some people think was behind MM/Link,
it wasn't present in that match. Why? TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| WildCherrySoul | Posted 10/4/2007 10:11:03 PM | message detail |
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Anomaly. --- - Owner of TWO sticky topics! Pearl Code: 3952 3520 2488 |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 10/4/2007 10:11:16 PM | message detail |
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If Mega Man can SFF Knuckles, why can't Link SFF Sonic? --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Failure swirldude has exposed me as a prediction fraud. |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 10:11:50 PM | message detail |
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oh yeah? well, I raise your "anomaly", add in some "SFF", some possible "LFF" and we get Yuri > Link --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| ZFS | Posted 10/4/2007 10:12:26 PM | message detail |
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oh yeah? well, I raise your "anomaly", add in some "SFF", some possible "LFF" and we get Yuri > Link i believe --- let's mosey |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/4/2007 10:12:55 PM | message detail |
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Fanbase overlap doesn't mean one side has to win by more than expected- look at Cloud/Sephiroth. --- Character Battle VI -- Points: 91/128 -- T-757 (156 way) Bracket: Megaman > KOS-MOS -- Vote: Megaman |
| WildCherrySoul | Posted 10/4/2007 10:13:01 PM | message detail |
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If Mega Man can SFF Knuckles, why can't Link SFF Sonic? Link can, and most likely will. --- - Owner of TWO sticky topics! Pearl Code: 3952 3520 2488 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2007 10:13:04 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man/Zelda 2003, went pretty much by the numbers. If there was a
significant MM/Zelda overlap as some people think was behind MM/Link,
it wasn't present in that match. Why? There WERE no numbers, that was Zelda's inaugural contest. By the time we saw Zelda again it was in 2005. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 10:13:42 PM | message detail |
| That's the thing though, Link and Sonic have less
in common than Mega Man and Knux. Link is an action-adventure character
who's hayday was on the N64. Sonic is a platformer who pulls most of
his strength from the Genesis days. If we had character battles before OoT came out, I'll guarentee you Link wouldn't even be in the top 5. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/4/2007 10:14:01 PM | message detail |
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If Mega Man can SFF Knuckles, why can't Link SFF Sonic? He can. But we've never seen Link/Sonic and Sonic's guaranteed last in the finals (if he gets there!!) so it doesn't matter anyway. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/4/2007 10:15:15 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, it's not like Link to the Past is the strongest 16 bit game on the site or anything. (Does anybody think Chrono Trigger takes a rematch?) --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| WildCherrySoul | Posted 10/4/2007 10:15:27 PM | message detail |
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Thinking about that Mario/Shadow match, that was around the time when Shadow was "new", right? Maybe he was just really liked for being a badass in the Sonic series, and his haters didn't have time to anti-vote him yet. Plus, Mario had a lot of anti-votes at the time, correct? Shadow could have acted as a Sonic proxy? Who knows. I'll get back to you on that one. --- - Owner of TWO sticky topics! Pearl Code: 3952 3520 2488 |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 10:15:34 PM | message detail |
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yeah, I've wondered for a while how MM/Zelda would go post-2005. god
knows what happened in 2003. it's kinda like Squall/Snake 2002 - you
can judge it retroactively, but that's all. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 10:16:15 PM | message detail |
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hochimihn is banking on "LFF" to bring Link down to Cloud's level, but
A) Snake is there and B) Link is enough ahead of Cloud that it would
take someone with very strong connections to Link such as Samus or
Mario to bring him down enough to be beaten by Cloud. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Keno316 | Posted 10/4/2007 10:16:36 PM | message detail |
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I like how the robots seemed tied at the hips when they have good updates. --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 10:17:19 PM | message detail |
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Plus, Mario had a lot of anti-votes at the time, correct? Shadow
could have acted as a Sonic proxy? Who knows. I'll get back to you on
that one. yeah, the Sonic proxy idea is the one that gets floated around the most. but if that's the case, Mario wouldn't SFF Sonic at all. 55/45 is about what the stats would say. all bets are off when Mario/Sonic comes around. what happens? who knows. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
