GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 510
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/4/2007 9:08:48 PM | message detail |
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Knuckles is so screwed. *Creativename's websites* Everything you could ever imagine: http://www.GameFAQsContests.com http://www.sc2k5.com http://www.sc2k4.com Sortable Table for Every Contest Match: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19 *Extrapolated Standings* Explanation of Extrapolated Standings: http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11 Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings: A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left): http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/ *Solarshadow's Sites* Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating) http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html *Old Stats topics* Summer 2002 Contest: http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html Summer 2003 Contest: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note) 2003-2004 Off-Season: http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note) Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL. Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them): http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them): http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm *Match Pictures* All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones! http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php *Miscellaneous* Creativename's Page of Links: http://sc2k4.com/links.php UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language): http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/ NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language): http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches: http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm All Time Top 10 Lists: http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2002stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2003stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2004stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2004stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2005stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2005stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july2006stats.htm http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2006stats.htm RPguy's Hourly Poll Updates: www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/contest.html HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007 TRE's poll listing (every poll!): http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html Aprosenf's Poll Script: http://adamrose.mit.edu/allpolls.txt GameFAQs' Top 100 Games http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10 Manual Poll Updater: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/pollupdate.php ~*ST*~ |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 10/4/2007 9:10:22 PM | message detail |
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Mega Man is a BEAST --- Masa/Hiko/HeroicTronBonne/Cory/Buddha |
| swirIdude | Posted 10/4/2007 9:10:35 PM | message detail |
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I hate this topic --- http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png Squall > Sora is a lock. ~Lady Ashe |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/4/2007 9:15:26 PM | message detail |
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Go for 3rd KOS-MOS! --- Who the hell do you think you are getting off being so egotistical like that? - hochiminh155 to Takfloyd_mkII__ |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:25:51 PM | message detail |
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aw yeah yoshi --- Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor. CB6 - 96/128; Oracle - 18th |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2007 9:26:12 PM | message detail |
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It's still pretty early in the match, but I wonder if this could
turn out to be the first indication that SFF can, indeed, beat out LFF
and benefit the stronger character? Well, unlike typical situations, this SFF theoretically involves the majority of the strength in this match (y'know, like actual contest matches) and there's a decisive favorite. I mean, the odd man (girl) out is KOS-MOS... --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/4/2007 9:26:28 PM | message detail |
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KOS STALLS! --- Who the hell do you think you are getting off being so egotistical like that? - hochiminh155 to Takfloyd_mkII__ |
| Warsola | Posted 10/4/2007 9:26:39 PM | message detail |
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Where have all the good men gone And where are all the gods? Where’s the street-wise Hercules To fight the rising odds? Isn’t there a white knight upon a fiery steed? Late at night I toss and I turn and I dream of what I need I need a hero I'm holding out for at hero 'till the end of the night He's gotta be strong And he's gotta be fast And he's gotta be fresh from the fight I need a hero I’m holding out for a hero 'till the morning light He’s gotta be sure And it’s gotta be soon And he’s gotta be larger than life Larger than life Doo doo doo doooo Doo doo doo doooo Doo doo doo doooo Aaahhh Aaahhh Somewhere after midnight In my wildest fantasy Somewhere just beyond my reach There’s someone reaching back for me Racing on the thunder and rising with the heat It’s gonna take a superman to sweep me off my feet I need a hero I'm holding out for a hero 'till the end of the night He's gotta be strong And he's gotta be fast And he's gotta be fresh from the fight I need a hero I’m holding out for a hero 'till the morning light He’s gotta be sure And it’s gotta be soon And he’s gotta be larger than life I need a hero I'm holding out for at hero 'till the the end of the night Up where the mountains meet the heavens above Out where the lightning splits the sea I could swear there is someone somewhere Watching me Through the wind and the chill and the rain And the storm and the flood I can feel his approach Like a fire in my blood I need a hero I'm holding out for a hero 'till the end of the night He’s gotta be strong And he's gotta be fast And he's gotta be fresh from the fight I need a hero I'm holding out for a hero 'till the morning light He's gotta be sure And it's gotta be soon And he's gotta be larger than life I need a hero I'm holding out for a hero 'till the end of the night He's gotta be strong And he's gotta be fast And he's gotta be fresh from the fight I need a hero I'm holding out for a hero 'till the morning light He's gotta be sure And he's gotta be soon And he's gotta be larger than life I need a hero I'm holding out for a hero 'till the end of the night --- And if we armed them all with two swords, we'd have four times the votes! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2007 9:26:43 PM | message detail |
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Looks like I was right. People still aren't impressed by Mega Man. This is all SFF/LFF and stuff, of course. >_> --- The apples were too strong for him.- Abomstar |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:26:44 PM | message detail |
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Gahhh. I mean, I should be happy, my bracket gets the points. But lord, Knuckles, this is terrible. When am I going to get a new contest hero, here, seriously. Plenty of room on the Zero bandwagon! aww yeah TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| ZFS | Posted 10/4/2007 9:27:11 PM | message detail |
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aww yeah kos-mos stalling and cutting (why am i rooting for xenosaga) --- let's mosey |
| swirIdude | Posted 10/4/2007 9:27:20 PM | message detail |
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aww no --- http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png Squall > Sora is a lock. ~Lady Ashe |
| DpObliVion | Posted 10/4/2007 9:27:30 PM | message detail |
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Well, this match is boring. So.... What happens in the Master Chief/Yuna/Liquid Snake/Alucard match? --- Dp, you are one awesome, sexy bastard. I less than 3 you. -Shadow Ryoko See Quote for Character Battle VI Printable Bracket *LETS GO KNUX!* |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:27:51 PM | message detail |
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would only amount to 2-3 including Snake...obviously this could be
different a year later...there could be no new 3rd parties or there
could be 4+ or whatever If anyone else is in I expect them to be revealed before the launch for marketing and hype purposes but not until after Smash is first shown playable, which is next week i believe --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Annoying posters! I am the great wavedash! [no u cru] |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:27:59 PM | message detail |
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Guys, what the hell were we thinking? We forgot one very fundamental rule to these contests when we took Knuckles to win here. This is the second round people God, how could we have been so naive. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/4/2007 9:28:29 PM | message detail |
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Looks like I was right. People still aren't impressed by Mega Man. This is all SFF/LFF and stuff, of course. >_> I've already said that despite any SFF here, Mega is still impressing here. Still, there's a long way between that and upending Samus (and... *sigh* Sephiroth *sigh*) --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:29:05 PM | message detail |
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If there wasn't LFF here, KOS-MOS would be under 10%. The only
reason it seem to be helping MM is because 2 of his opponents are
suffering while the third is really weak. You *still* don't get it? Let me spell it out for you *again* - the stronger character (Mega Man) gains more percentage through SFF than he loses via LFF. Both factors are present, both hurt the weaker character(s), but, for the stronger character, SFF outdoes LFF and the result is a net benefit. I'm not entirely convinced that this is an example of it - Yoshi and Knuckles have good reasons to go up and Mega Man to go down before the day is up - but if we don't get it here I have a feeling that we'll see it in Link/Vincent/Zelda/Bidoof. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:29:20 PM | message detail |
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aww yeah kh on the mm > sephy bandwagon Alert the Sephy fanboys (that means you ExTha) TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 9:29:38 PM | message detail |
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Well, unlike typical situations, this SFF theoretically involves the
majority of the strength in this match (y'know, like actual contest
matches) and there's a decisive favorite. I mean, the odd man (girl)
out is KOS-MOS... this. and no matter how bad Sonic characters have looked, I point to KOS-MOS potentially taking the lead overnight from Knuckles as evidence. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2007 9:29:47 PM | message detail |
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You know, BT is right. Knuckles getting out of the second round? About as likely as CATS winning in the first round. --- The apples were too strong for him.- Abomstar |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/4/2007 9:31:16 PM | message detail |
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KNWITSR (Knuckles Never Wins In The Second Round) --- Who the hell do you think you are getting off being so egotistical like that? - hochiminh155 to Takfloyd_mkII__ |
| paraboxx | Posted 10/4/2007 9:31:30 PM | message detail |
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Heh, I just closed a topic without even trying. (Not that I've ever tried to before, or anything....) Also - is it okay to say "what the hell, Knux" yet? Is that...is that reasonable...? |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:31:32 PM | message detail |
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Well, unlike typical situations, this SFF theoretically involves the
majority of the strength in this match (y'know, like actual contest
matches) and there's a decisive favorite. I mean, the odd man (girl)
out is KOS-MOS... That's a decent point. I'm not sure if that helps or hurts leeching, but it probably increases gains due to SFF. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| JustForFun1988 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:32:07 PM | message detail |
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I am jumping on the mm > sephy bandwagon but regarding about the Zero > Crono/Vincent bandwagon, No thanks. --- Proud Supporter of Solid Snake, Dante and Ryu. Alt Account of someone who is lame and stupid |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:32:40 PM | message detail |
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You *still* don't get it? Let me spell it out for you *again* - the
stronger character (Mega Man) gains more percentage through SFF than he
loses via LFF. Both factors are present, both hurt the weaker
character(s), but, for the stronger character, SFF outdoes LFF and the
result is a net benefit. lol ryu h/riku/roxas? Like, are you that deluded? Look at all the SFF matches in the first round, and how they resulted in weaker, unrelated characters impressing. CATS, Ryu, Ryu H and Haseo, Kratos, Big Boss, potentially The Boss, Ammastastasru and Danta. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 9:33:45 PM | message detail |
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mm > sephiroth? are you guys serious or just hopeful? Mega Man has a good chance at Samus and always has. this match doesn't really change anything there. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:34:59 PM | message detail |
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I think the MM > Sephy thing was something I started, which heavily depends on my Link/MM =/= SFF theory TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:35:37 PM | message detail |
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lol lead for 2nd bigger than lead for first --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Annoying posters! I am the great wavedash! [no u cru] |
| ZFS | Posted 10/4/2007 9:36:15 PM | message detail |
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this mm > sephiroth stuff is making me want to kick someone in the fundament do not want --- let's mosey |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:36:58 PM | message detail |
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lol ryu h/riku/roxas? Obviously, Riku had bigger problems than Roxas. He's flat out weaker than Hayabusa, I think it's very hard to draw any other conclusions. Like, are you that deluded? Look at all the SFF matches in the first round, and how they resulted in weaker, unrelated characters impressing. CATS, Ryu, Ryu H and Haseo, Kratos, Big Boss, potentially The Boss, Ammastastasru and Danta. *sigh* Almost unequivocally, the weaker character is hurt by both SFF and LFF and should look terrible no matter what the proportion is. Is that so hard to understand? The point is that the stronger character might benefit, depending on what exactly the split is (like, say, Rikku almost beating Knuckles). The weaker character looks bad. Period. The strong character *might* look better. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| Keno316 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:37:06 PM | message detail |
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this mm > sephiroth stuff is making me want to kick someone in the fundament do not want Goes back to your days of Mario > Sephy, huh? --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:37:09 PM | message detail |
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ARGATH --- Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor. CB6 - 96/128; Oracle - 18th |
| BesaidGuy | Posted 10/4/2007 9:38:19 PM | message detail |
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Wait till Yoshi's day vote. If he can keep this match under 1500 for
the night who knows. It most likely won't happen, but if Yoshi is
ANYWHERE close by tomorrow afternoon we could see some shenanigans. Also, LOL Knux, LOL Sonic in general, LOL Smurf. --- FuturamandFFX/TheRealoSix AndyManCan's favorite user |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:39:25 PM | message detail |
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The stronger character looks better in relation to the weakened SFF
character, but unrelated characters are unaffected and look stronger in
relation than they should. Once again, look at Ryu's match. SFF matches
have low votals for a reason. In 1 on 1 matches, it doesn't matter
since people who are decisively not
in that fanbase have to abstain. But in this format, there are other
options, meaning that SFF hurts both characters in relation to
non-SFF'd characters. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| ZFS | Posted 10/4/2007 9:40:03 PM | message detail |
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Goes back to your days of Mario > Sephy, huh? I blame tran! --- let's mosey |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 9:40:21 PM | message detail |
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ARGATH brb fftpsp Goes back to your days of Mario > Sephy, huh? they're really not comparable - Mario's always been stronger than Mega Man.. well, since 2k5 anyways. Sephiroth has Magus in the poll. it's... possible. MM > Sephiroth? I wish, but there's utterly no chance there. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:40:37 PM | message detail |
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The match is over 1000 already, and Mega Man's a steady character as
opposed to Yoshi and Knuckles being very day reliant. Mega Man gained
on Sonic all night before losing the lead in the morning, then coming
back with the evening/second night vote. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:41:26 PM | message detail |
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Personally, I think LFF will only cause the stronger character in the
SFF match (and assuming he SFFs the other) to have an inflated
percentage is if the competition outside of that fanbase is weak. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:41:41 PM | message detail |
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If Solid Snake can do it, why not Mega Man? Snake had to deal with both
Link/Smash boost SFF and FF7/MGS SFF, whereas MM only has to deal with potential Link/MM SFF TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| ZFS | Posted 10/4/2007 9:42:15 PM | message detail |
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If Solid Snake can do it, why not Mega Man? Snake had to deal with
both Link/Smash boost SFF and FF7/MGS SFF, whereas MM only has to deal
with potential Link/MM SFF THAT IS THE WORST COMPARISON I HAVE EVER HEARD STOP IT --- let's mosey |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:42:29 PM | message detail |
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Like I said though, take MM''s, Yoshi's and Knuckles' legitimate strengths, remove any SFF, and KOSY here fails to break 10% TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:42:32 PM | message detail |
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And Bowser obviously didn't SFF Mewtwo at all and probably didn't hit
Toad very much, so his LFF losses handily outweighed any SFF gains and
he got demolished by Ryu. I am *not* suggesting that SFF beats LFF in
any match where the two are present, I'm suggesting that it *can*
happen. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:42:58 PM | message detail |
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woah what the heck are you saying --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Annoying posters! I am the great wavedash! [no u cru] |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:44:20 PM | message detail |
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LFF IS SFF JUST GIVEN A POINTLESS NAME! I think what will illustrate my point more than anything else will be how awesome Vincent looks in his match this round. Link has both Zelda and Bidoof splitting his support, I wouldn't be surprised if Vincent comes to within 5% of Link there. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:44:52 PM | message detail |
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LFF IS SFF JUST GIVEN A POINTLESS NAME! And that is where you are completely wrong. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2007 9:45:12 PM | message detail |
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If Solid Snake can do it, why not Mega Man? Snake had to deal with
both Link/Smash boost SFF and FF7/MGS SFF, whereas MM only has to deal
with potential Link/MM SFF wait what what what in the ARGATH did i just read --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:46:52 PM | message detail |
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You're looking at it as if: "Character A B C and D all have a slice of pie worth 25%. Character A is Link, and B is Zelda. Link steals 20% from Zelda and adds it to his own" Whereas it's more like: "Same situation, except Link and Zelda combine their pie to make 50%, but lose some crumbs as they jam the pieces together. Link gets a larger slice of the pie, but they both lose a little bit" TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:47:53 PM | message detail |
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You might try reading comprehension. I'm told it's a good thing. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2007 9:48:08 PM | message detail |
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Okay, so I take it tranny is one of those people that thinks Samus/Snake was legit last year. TuRtLe ~~~ 101/128 in the contest. Next pick: Mega Man > Knuckles BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/4/2007 9:49:08 PM | message detail |
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What kind of pie are we talking about here. --- Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor. CB6 - 96/128; Oracle - 18th |
